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12:05 AM
shit
it's late here
I can't think
I have to flag it for the moderator to fix it
 
12:40 AM
What the hell are you talking about?
 
the part where I wrote "tought"
 
what the hell is anyone talking about?
 
how to check "which is current acitivity and is displaying on screen?" by thread?
 
are you testing with instrumentation or is this within the app itself?
 
how can I find a nice programmer girlfriend?
 
12:50 AM
You can't
 
I though that was a chat where you can just come in and ask any random question related to programming
"I thought that was 'Merica"
 
:D
 
Ask your question on SO, please, per the room rules
 
Can't I ask questions here. I am sorry, I thought that was America, isn't that America?
is this a communist country or something
 
12:52 AM
But you're not American so you don't count
 
my first cousin is
:D
so it's pretty close
cM have you ever had a programmer girlfriend?
 
Nope, the closest is my current girlfriend. She's not a programmer but she is able to think very logcially
So it's kind of nice. We can talk about things and understand each other. I can talk about my work and she gets it, for the most part.
Plus she's hot
 
> closed as off topic
 
Besides, I only know a handful of programmers that I don't solely know online
 
haha interesting
most of my friends are IT people
and people that I know
I know mostly lawyers, managers and IT people :D
terrible huh :D
 
12:59 AM
I'm sitting here with my Philosophy major friends and they make me feel stupid some times.
or at least inarticulate.
 
I only have a handful of friends and none of them are in IT,,,mostly trades
All that I've known at least since jr. high
 
trades? as in construction?
 
I don't think I could handle that, Code. Lol
erm...construction type stuff
 
well, I can still beat them all at chess, so I put up with it.
yah, that's what I meant.
 
Plumbing and heating, electrical at an RV manufacturer, things like that I guess
 
1:00 AM
just making sure my definition of "trades" was similar to yours.
 
Ah, yep sounds like it
 
haha :D
 
My brothers on in IT and engineering though. And I talk to them more than most anyone else
 
in fact, it takes a lot of encouragement most of the time to get them to even play me.
 
That's awesome, Code! :D
 
1:02 AM
I am sure your philosopher friends don't know shit
they just read some books with ideology
and start being philosophical and stuff
 
they seem to know their stuff. And it doesn't come across all snotty or anything like you seem to be implying.
 
To be honest, that's my thought of those types of people also. Though I wouldn't judge because I don't really know any
 
1:15 AM
I'm finding myself interested in philosophy to some small extent. I'm reading Bertrand Russell, both Introduction to Mathematical Philosophy (which is more what we would now call math than philosophy) and History of Western Philosophy
dry reading, but still quite interesting
 
2:13 AM
@erebel55 just noticed you're in MI. Where at, if you don't mind saying? I'm in northern IN
 
Near Flint, Michigan
it's north of Detroit
@codeMagic gotta run for tonight tho. give Lava Monkey a dl ;)
night guys
 
almost 13k!
 
I know where that is. My uncle lives up there
I'm not sure what I'm going to dl but ok
Yay, Code!
Oh, apparently it is a game
 
yep it's my game :D
that's pretty cool. Yep I've lived here all my life
gotta get some sleep now tho, got an early morning
take it easy
 
I thought you left. Go to sleep. Hopefully I will be soon
 
2:49 AM
so...I'm crushing pretty hard on this girl, and I think I'm getting stuck in the "friend zone"
 
Ouch!
 
so I'll just try to lose myself in some coding ;-)
 
Smack her on the ass when she walks by. That should get you out of the friend zone pretty quick
 
probably in the wrong direction...
 
Lol...probably
 
3:12 AM
Well, I'm off to try and sleep. Good luck with your "friend", Code
 
3:40 AM
gnite, cM
Anyone around?
 
Nope
 
that's too bad
 
4:12 AM
Heya Everyone :)
 
morning
 
 
1 hour later…
5:17 AM
So, any interesting stuffs on Amazon's phone?
 
5:38 AM
It doesn't look bad
but they will want to monetize the shit out of you
it's a mobile amazon station
In other news... I apparently don't have any school today?!
why the heck didn't I know that? lol
 
Phone sounds boring. Meh
 
The camera bit is cool
And the actual object recognition
 
And uploads directly to the cloud? Right?
 
I think is semi scrapes on the device, then uploads
But yeah, heavy lifting is done on the cloud
 
But can I take a normal picture with it?
 
5:48 AM
Every of your images will probably be scanned lol
 
Haha! That's what I'm thinking too.
 
6:03 AM
Pretty sure that's how @codeMagic, @carl and @ak feel during the WC
 
6:32 AM
 
 
1 hour later…
7:38 AM
Morning !
 
morning
 
good morning
 
morning
hey warren did you know about this
it's a stadium in berlin
that was turned into a living room for the world cup
looks really awesome
 
I will see the Ger vs Ghana match on Saturday there :D
a friend from school played for Union: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Stuff
 
7:56 AM
FB out service ? lol
 
haha nice :D
 
also for you buddies :p ?
 
I am not using FB if I don't have to
and I never have to...
 
:)
 
yeah down for me as well
 
8:11 AM
yep
 
by by Dalvik .. i will not miss yu ! ha ha
 
hello world
 
heya
 
i got 44%, that's not very good
 
64%
some question are literally asking for useless knowledge
 
does anyone of you guys in the room have a girlfriend coder/programmer/developer
 
8:37 AM
for example: "Brand" of clock widget on Android 1.0
no, my wife is a midwife
 
You scored 40%! :'(
 
meh I only scored 60%
 
what's a midwife?
ah, I saw
 
a middle wife clearly
 
some of these question where really rubbish
like what the heck
how should I know what widget was on what Android version?
 
8:41 AM
 
 
lol
 
haha that's the mysql message for lost connection
:d
or too long wait time for response
 
importing a large file.... through a webinterface... that screams for issues
 
from /r/shittyprogramming
 
8:48 AM
hm in javascript there are really nice things that could be done
for example
Instead of:
    if(b){
        b.enable();
    }
Do:
b && b.enable();
it can't be done in java right?
 
hmm afaik no
 
of course it can
 
how?
 
if b is true, b.enable() will be called as well
 
no, in this sense it is if b is defined (!= null)
 
8:52 AM
no he means the shorthand form
 
if (b != null && b.enable()) { // who cares abour that }
 
nooo
b && b.enable(); in JAVA should be like this
 
user457812
b && b.enable() only works if enable returns a boolean.
 
if(b != null) { b.enable(); }
 
user457812
Also if b is a boolean.
 
8:53 AM
b.enable() doesn't return
 
user457812
So, realistically, it's not doable.
 
b is an object
 
user457812
You could do it in Scala by having an implicit conversion to a boolean.
 
without return value it can't be done, otherwise: it can
 
user457812
b != null && b.enable() will work, but again only if enable returns something (a boolean, in this case, otherwise you'll need to have a logical operator).
 
8:54 AM
haha I know
the idea here was just to see if b has something in it, then call it's function
cause if it is null
b.enable() would throw a runtime exception
 
in java you would get a NPE
 
user457812
Meanwhile, in C++ land: some(5)([](int x) { std::cout << x << std::endl; });
 
user457812
I love that I can do just about anything I want in C++.
 
with Java you could do the following
`b != null ? b.enable() : "";`
 
user457812
.. At that point, it's longer and more confusing than if (b != null) b.enable();
 
8:57 AM
yeah C++ allows for much more than java
what does some(5) do
 
user457812
Chaining short-circuiting logical operators with side-effects isn't really worth doing unless they work like Ruby in the first place, anyway.
 
user457812
some(5) returns an optional<int> with a defined value of 5.
 
it's like an anonymous function
to which you give 5 as a value to x
 
user457812
github.com/nilium/libsnow-common/blob/master/include/snow/types/… ⇐ More specifically, it's a wrapper for optional<T>::make(…).
 
in JS you can do something like
(function(x) { console.log(x); })(5)
which is the same
 
user457812
9:01 AM
Pretty sure you don't need the enclosing parentheses there.
 
yeah nice
templating
you do
I can assure you 100%
 
user457812
You don't.
 
user457812
Just confirmed it.
 
hm
I tested it
it doesn't work without the parentheses
    (function(x) { console.log(x); })(5)
    5

    function(x) { console.log(x); }(5)
    SyntaxError: Unexpected token (
 
user457812
9:03 AM
 
ah in what language?
what?
in node?
ok
 
that's js
 
node js does not use traditional JS
it's "node" JS
 
user457812
Uh, yeah, it does use "traditional JS"
 
which means they have reworked the JS engine to allow more stuff
 
user457812
9:05 AM
The language, parser, etc. is unchanged.
 
ok
I have never seen a closure not enclosed by parentheses so I was wondering how you know it
 
user457812
The only thing that's different is it's not attached to a browser, which I grant you makes it the stupidest thing ever because Javascript's a pile of crap, but we'll ignore that for now.
 
let me see why is it possible
 
user457812
The interesting thing is that throwing a semicolon at the end of the statement makes it unparse-able.
 
haha
 
user457812
9:06 AM
Or at the very least node.js's eval has no idea what to do with it.
 
user457812
 
user457812
Basically, it's very confused.
 
user457812
Safari dislikes the parentheses-less version.
 
user457812
Might partially depend on how the REPL is set up
 
user457812
At any rate, I'm going to sleep.
 
9:15 AM
night nil
 
nil
try {} + []
to see what happens
and then [] + {}
in JS
nil apparently
node uses the newest ECMAScript
that's why it's possible
 
user457812
Don't try to act like I don't know the wat video.
 
user457812
Also, before I go to sleep, I want to make it abundantly clear that cockatoos are goofy as hell.
 
user457812
 
9:38 AM
yay I got the metaio sdk working
now for a 3 hour break for one line of code
 
9:56 AM
metaio sdk ?, RED_
 
it's an augmented reality thingy.
 
Okay :D
 
user457812
10:12 AM
I want to pet a cockatoo.
 
its skin is soft. :)
 
10:34 AM
@zigi my wife is java programmer
 
Ahmed Did you know Spain is now out of the race
 
10:53 AM
spain, what a mess
didn't realise chile were that good
 
Neitherlands and Chilee match will be good
 
yeah
 
Chilee played outstandingly, they were fast and active
 
11:11 AM
missed!
 
the amount of deleted messages is too damn high
 
in room number 15 or you're telling in total ?
 
I'm sorry Warren !
 
just this room
Abdellah is a pro in removing his own messages :D
 
haha :P
Warren, what's up ? :D
 
11:25 AM
nothing, I am trying to debug why my zxing integration refuses to autofocus
 
Which device?
 
huawei something
the store version of zxing does the focus
 
Try moving it back and forth
And tapping the screen
 
I tried everything
problem is probably a bad implementation... I have a so called "sdk" that uses the zxing library
 
Does the zxing sample code autofocus?
 
11:27 AM
the app itself (from playstore) does the focus
I must debug foreign code... I doubt it is based on zxing, probably just bad implementation by the "sdk" that I got from my customer
I implement their sdk which implements zxing
 
Ahh
That might be it
 
so they fucked it up and I need to fix it :)
 
Android's camera is hard to work with even when it's your own code
 
yeah, working with 80 chars width limitted code formattting and bad naming doesn't help either :/
 
Honestly, I'd be overjoyed to work with that
Past month or so I've been working in shell scripts and driver code
 
11:31 AM
sounds like fun as well! :D
the quality of my code here is awesome.
Class A: private int TOGGLE_LIGHT_CLICKED = 32423423;
Class B somewhere in an if construct (who would use a switch for that shit): if (message.what == 32423423) {
 
Check this : Funny
 
11:51 AM
 
image not found
 
mine? weird
 
12:12 PM
Ahmad it works (at least for me)
 
Yop it worked for me as well after giving refresh
 
Someone's cutting our grass today. I love the smell of freshly-cut grass.
But damn how long does he intend to be load as hell?
He's at it for more than an hour now
 
Android Open Source apps : f-droid.org
 
oh god... the sdk I am using for scanning barcodes states that it supports portrait mode since the latest version
it does not work because they just flipped the UI but they forgot to flip the scanning functionality...
now you need to scan wrong to get a result
that says a lot about the QA the sdk creator does...
 
12:30 PM
lol
 
and I tried an hour to get it to scan my sample....
and I just found out by accident as I raged about the shit and I hold the device accidently in landscape and as it vibrated I was confused
 
what lib are you using?
 
what's up Monica
 
@neerajkirola Based on your chat history you're only looking for tech support.
 
Monica ? , zigi
 
12:41 PM
haha :D
 
so very little to do its ridiculous
 
Morning, all!
 
You're getting payed to do nothing, how much better can it get?
 
Heya, Magic :)
 
hey magic
 
12:43 PM
haha i guess so
 
@Ahmad Getting paid to do something interesting >>>> getting paid to do nothing.
 
morning magic
 
I think I'd have to agree
 
Visitors from a potential big customer today and the mayor tomorrow...guess I should clean up my disaster of an office
 
12:46 PM
The Mayor will visit your office, Wow!
 
Yeah, not sure why. I guess it's not a bad thing but I'm not overly impressed either
 
The Mayor visit someone's place, is not a common thingy.
 
Unless of course you live in very small city
then majors are not important
 
Probably small to most people, don't know
 
population?
 
12:51 PM
I just looked and it said 48k which doesn't seem right because it's less than where I live
 
48k is not small at all
 
But I know this is a bigger city than mine
no?
The city next door is 100k
 
I wouldn't say so
~50k is a reasonably big city
 
48k is small
 
12:53 PM
I guess when I think big city I think of Chicago, Detroit, New York, Indianapolis, etc...
 
Where I live is 120k, and the city next door is 200k, and this place (it's effectively like 1 city) definitely feels small.
Guess it's just perspective, though :)
 
What about in NZ? What would be a big city there?
 
haha yeah probably
 
Auckland has 1.4 million
 
I love when I open Eclipse and everything is red
So I get to restart
 
12:55 PM
I live in a suburb with a population of 30k
and think it's not that small
 
@Ahmad I can't say as it is no official sdk
 
Our cities are much further apart though. We have say, 4-5 big cities (1.4, 0.5, 0.4, 0.3mil population sizes) then loads of small towns.
 
but that might be because I have a giant city next door
 
everything goes red everytime i start eclipse at work
few minutes later its all fine
 
ah I see warren
 
12:56 PM
Ah, I see, Adam
 
Ah, I see, what?!
:D
 
RED, normally that's the case for me. But occasionally, like today and once yesterday, it stays red
 
Okay even smaller than I thought; 120k, 140k, 200k, 300k, and then Auckland on 1.4 milion
 
@zigi :D :D
 

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