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12:00 AM
What is your favorite android dev related xkcd?
 
And you can't bump questions over 6 months old...I've tried
 
Ask him to send us all a commonsguy coffee mug
 
lol
Since a majority of people in Room 15 have warescriptions why don't you just join us for chat tonight?
 
I am there now...
You are not there MrEngineer13
 
12:03 AM
tell him I said hi
 
Neighbor, don't forget to ask about the mugs
 
4 mins ago, by MrEngineer13
After you mentioned asking him stuff at his office hours I noticed they were right now but I can't think of anything to ask.
 
> Emmanuel: are you going to cover dependency injection libs?
Dagger, more specifically
Mark M.: no, in large part because I am not using them anywhere, so I lack experience in the subject
 
You didn't ask about coffee mugs! Do I have to do everything?!?
 
but...he knows everything!
 
12:10 AM
> MrEngineer13: Room15 would like some mugs please Mr. Mark?
> Mark M.: Sure, I'll make that happen to anyone who lives in a state that doesn't start with an I.
^ That was his response Neighbor
 
sweet I get a mug
 
codeMagic: I hate you
 
i feel dumb
 
isn't that one of two possible emotional states as developers? nothing unusual there
 
that's more like my only state
 
12:14 AM
So Dumb and less dumb?
 
yeah but the real idiots are the ones who don't get it and feel smart about it
 
yup
 
The more I get into Android dev the dumber I think I am...
 
What does that even mean
 
12:16 AM
I feel specially dumb when I think about the people that code the Classes we use...
the Roman Guy type of guys...
anyone here is fluent on Dagger?
 
IKR? He was having these breakthroughs back in '08
 
No, but let me know if you find someone who is, I really want to use in my next project
 
I am using it
 
I want to use it but I'm not right now.
 
12:19 AM
I just want someone to tell me if the way I am creating my ObjectGraphs make sense...
 
oh boy. I have too many images in my whatsapp folder.
 
I can try to guide you guys if you are interested on starting to use it
 
Ayyy, the Latest Komanda src(Straight from master) seams to work!
 
all those naked pics man...
 
Lol
 
12:20 AM
if you want to feel smart, look at this function the China team used to set the temperature on the old version of our app we had to clean up then rebuild.
 
amazing code.
lol
 
i know I never would have thought to use 3 image views to display 3 digits of temperature
 
Oh...that is Android code...
 
@MrEngineer13 yay...I get a mug! I live in a state of distress!
 
ha ha
Earlier I said the Chromium fetch process got shorter. Turns out I lied, they just broke it into multiple parts so it seams shorter.
So yea.... Ill be fetching src for the next lifetime
 
12:23 AM
Is that what they're calling that corn field now a days?
lol that wasn't very neighborly...
 
Pretty much since always :D
There's only so many things you can do with corn and cows
Cow tipping really isn't as much fun as you may think
 
Cow topping on the other hand...
 
I wouldn't know...I only tip waitresses
 
If tipping is what you do with waitresses, then I have a lot to teach you
 
12:28 AM
I just tried googling Cow topping and this is what Google showed me
 
lol
I'd never heard that term before so I was thinking it would involve covering the cow in whipped cream and sprinkles
 
lmao
 
You guys sign up for the Google Inbox thing?
 
No, I haven't seen any sign-up page
 
12:38 AM
That's not really something we do around here. Just figured that's what everyone thought. I think you need to go further south for that
"Cow topping" no I don't know what that is.
 
Click Request an invite, or for the lazy email " inbox@google.com" to get an inv.
 
If there's anything I've learned from the Big Bang Theory is that cow tipping is not possible
 
o/ Good day guys
 
\o
just looked into google inbox a bit more
that really looks like a mailbox ripoff
 
Read the actual features though
 
user457812
12:48 AM
Good god this keyboard is loud.
 
what is Google inbox?
 
user457812
And yeah, Inbox is basically Mailbox.
 
user457812
I don't see the point of these 'redefine the mailbox by turning it into a todo list' things
 
user457812
I just want fucking mail.
 
user457812
I don't want a task manager. I've got paper for that.
 
12:50 AM
For comparison, Mailbox:
They even have the same icons
 
user457812
But one has "material design" (flat UI)
 
lol
 
*Material design does look nice though...
 
I think the action bar looks hideous
 
12:58 AM
I think it looks nice, but whatev.
 
user457812
I think action bars are hideous until we start putting them on the bottom of the screen
 
user457812
Or stop making big phones. Take your pick.
 
user457812
Also, buckling spring's odd to type on.
 
user457812
A bit tougher to press the keys than blues.
 
1:00 AM
I've been using this gyft app to buy gift cards to stores with bitcoins so that I have far more options for spending them
they just added itunes cards to it today, but for some reason the page doesn't give you the option to pay with BTC
but you can buy a gyft gift card, which then allows you to buy all of the other gift cards (a bit like inception, I know)
 
How insane is BTC mining these days?
 
so I bought a gyft gift card with BTC and then spent it on an itunes card, that it wouldn't let me buy with BTC
Dunno really, I never got in to mining
I wrote a research paper last semester about crypto currencies and at the time I did a ton of reading and watching videos on them.
 
It's pretty insane
 
I think by now you need a supper dupper computer now. I think the bar is so high now.
 
at that time I know it had gotten pretty crazy people were using specially designed computers and employing lots and lots of them eating huge amounts of power
 
1:03 AM
Somewhere I saw this idea for bitcoin mining that happens through the brower so instead of hosting ads, websites can just use your resources to mine while you read.
 
so I never really got interested in mining personally. But the technology itself fascinates me.
 
MrE, I think that was a MIT hackathon project that never took off.\
 
furthermore
 
I just bought a small amount back when I was writing the paper and have been slowly spending it on things
 
it got declare illegal
 
user457812
1:05 AM
I keep trying to explain to my cat that he can't go outside 'cause the air is lava but he just doesn't get it
 
namecheap accepts it, and that is where the majority of my domains are, so that works out well
 
and the state demanded the research group to give them their code
 
user457812
He doesn't understand that you can't go outside 'cause the air is lava and you can't breathe lava 'cause lava ain't air.
2
 
Ah, thanks I couldn't remember it where it was from
 
1:06 AM
and now with the gyft app I can buy gift cards to lots of retail stores so I use when I need stuff from those stores.
 
Also the other night I saw that MIT was predicting BTC price. That whitepaper was actually a pretty good read
 
that is interesting from the technological perspective
but I think it would fail if they scaled up too large
and I think there are markets that are far easier to do something similar in than BTC
 
You mean if they set the threshold beyond +/- 1BTC?
 
it could go a bit higher
but if they raised it too high their own trades would affect the price I think
I think that is a dangerous game to play even for wiz kids creating algorithms
 
I agree. Maybe that's why they stuck to only 1 btc
 
1:13 AM
you are prone to stuff like this if you scale that concept up too far
 
Whats the BTC => $ at?
 
~ $350
as of a few minutes ago when I bought my itunes card
 
ಠ_ಠ
oh wait, you can buy partial BTC
 
yes
the price of 1BTC is kind of arbitrary
 
right
 
1:16 AM
when you want to buy something you are generally still paying a certain USD amount at a conversion rate set by the seller
 
So when I went to buy an itunes card just now the site says "you owe $25, how do you want to pay"
I choose bitcoin and it says ok at current rates you owe us .0704 BTC
and there is a timeout of 5-10 minutes for me complete the transaction
 
if I take too long it cancels and I have to start over at the new rate (if it changed)
 
Gnight all
 
1:25 AM
night
 
night
 
night
 
user457812
2:07 AM
@NoahHuppert Something stupid and not based in reality.
 
2:17 AM
Hi, again
 
Hello. Got summoned by nil.
So I shall leave you all with some pro hacking tips
0
Q: Hack into a computer through MAC and IP address

user45016Can I hack into someone's computer if I know the MAC address of his modem and his public IP address? Is this possible? What kind of stuff would I be able to access?

 
 
2 hours later…
4:53 AM
Just setup my virtualbox the whole morning, no clue what happened. Lol
 
5:30 AM
Congratz
 
5:44 AM
Now how do you run this PHPUnit?
 
6:00 AM
Oh here we go.
 
`_o_/\_o_
/ || || \
Goddammit
Why is Chat.SE so against ASCII art?
 
6:51 AM
Yo People!
 
Inbox is awesome
 
Yeah it is. I miss reloaded profile page so much. :((
 
How bout an invite for Inbox
 
an invite for inbox ?
 
Yes Inbox
 
6:58 AM
Don't have any to share
 
7:50 AM
o/
 
\o Morning all
 
Morning 0/
 
8:13 AM
@LawGimenez NL business called me
 
What is that?
 
8:33 AM
App History
 
That's more like "evolution of the desk"
 
doesn't matter, it is great!
 
8:53 AM
it is also showing how our environment becomes less humane
 
Later guys
Php =(
 
9:18 AM
See ya fellas
 
 
1 hour later…
10:28 AM
Config change update my slidingmenu , I have override the onConfigurationChanged but still update the sliding menu, any help please ?
 
have you defined the config changes in the manifest for your activity?
 
yeah
 
and the method is correctly called?
 
Does anyone already implemented colorPrimary/colorPrimaryDark with support library?
 
the debugger does not stop in the breakpoint :/
 
10:33 AM
than the type of config change is probably a wrong one
 
"keyboard|keyboardHidden|touchscreen|screenSize|screenLayout"
 
what are you listening to and what are you doing to "trigger" it?
 
I listen to the keyboard|keyboardHidden and I override the onConfigurationChanged to did nothing
 
so you try to open the keyboard?
 
yeah, When I open the keyboard the sliding menu is updated
 
10:41 AM
6
A: onConfigurationChanged() not firing for keyboardHidden

Shawn LauzonNo, onConfigurationChange() doesn't catch soft keyboard events: it's not a configuration change. The orientation change causes a new set of resources to be used (such as layout-land vs layout-port), which is the definition of a configuration change. So how to do it? Well, There's no event fired ...

so soft keyboard does not trigger
 
Yaay
 
you should search first on SO :D
it is often faster to get an answer :D
 
I did but sometimes I skip some scenario :D
Many Thanks Warren :)
 
11:10 AM
Warren are you around here
 
I am
 
ciao every uno
 
but only for the next 10 minutes
 
the sliding menu still updating
 
well break somewhere in the sliding menu and try to find out in the call stack what is causing it
 
11:17 AM
ok, I will did
 
the google play $25 fee is a one-time fee or anual?
 
one-time fee :)
 
cool
 
Why do we have to set the container of the DrawerLayout to fill the whole view? Otherwise we get a crash?
 
11:37 AM
why should you want to have it not fill the whole view? normally it is the root view of your activity
and my guess: Even a LL or RL not filling the whole view might result in a crash
 
And what about activity_horizontal_margin from Android Design guidelines?
I'm setting that to the container on the DrawerLayout. The thing is that if I click outside of the view it crashes. Even tho the drawerlayout is inside a relativelayout
 
Again: DrawerLayout is meant to be the root layout of your activity
every other layout setup will cause problems
I can't even understand how you expect it to work :D
 
Ok I get it. It's the root. But if it is the root why should a view inside it have to fill it?
 
because it is just a container to show a drawer and it just treats the id/container as a root. and again: root needs to fill the screen
what would you expect to see outside the view?
 
I think i'm not making myself clear :\
 
11:42 AM
I think you do
 
I know that the drawer have to fill the parent
That makes sence
and by parent I mean the screen since it is the root
Now, I have 2 things inside my drawerlayout
One recycleview, used for the navigation drawer menu
And a framelayout, that I will use to set my fragments into
That framelayout has to fill the drawerlayout. That's what I'm not understanding
 
It is pretty simple: The id/container needs to act like a root because the DrawerLayout is just a container that does not show anything. So to prevent screen space that has nothing to show, it passes the requirement to fill the screen to the framelayout
 
I see. So if I want to set some sort of margins I will have to create a view that matches the drawer and a view inside it with margins? Right?
 
and as the framelayout has to act like a root, you in general just put the real stuff to show inside
right!
 
Ok get it. Thanks :)
When you say "DrawerLayout is meant to be the root layout of your activity" do you mean that I'm not supposed to have anything outside it?
 
11:54 AM
no, nothing
 
based on the tutorial in the docs it is literally meant to be the root
hm... it could work
 
It is working atm. Otherwise I will have to change the toolbar to inside the drawer and that will make the menu be above the toolbar, which I don't agree sadly
 
yeah, that is what I was thinking as well
basically I would keep it your way and just keep in mind that it might cause trouble
but I think you should continue
 
Okay thanks for the suggestion :)
 
12:00 PM
sure
 
@Abdellah I checked that. That's why I built it like this. But in that project they set margins for the inner content of the drawerlayout. Which will cause the application to crash when you click on that "empty" space. But thanks anyway
 
Welcome.
Lunch time
 
 
12:58 PM
Morning all
 
anyone an idea if Square will make their libs work with the latest API level?
I am wondering if they plan to make Mortar and Flow work with Material Design
 
What's specific to material design that needs Flow and Mortar to change?
Flow and Mortar shouldn't interfere with your apps design choices
 
I disagree :)
Mortar and Flow move the focus to custom views instead of fragments
if Material highly depends on Fragments, that might be a game changer for the libraries
I still failed to have time to check the new api in details, so I was wondering...
 
Ah okay I get what you mean
I really haven't checked the new APIs either so can't comment on it
Just went through the docs, can't really find something that focuses on fragments more than before
iirc the navigation drawer and everything can be converted to be used without fragments
 
the drawerlayout does not require fragments, true
 
1:13 PM
o/
 
Morning!
What day is it?
:)
 
o/
So the Canadian Play Devices store has a Sony smartwatch on it now. Is this old news?...
 
morning
 
Morning cM
Sorry I didn't reply you yesterday. I left work :\
 
Morning cM.
 
1:28 PM
What day is it you say?
 
I FUCKING KNEW IT!
 
ducks
 
@FoamyGuy Thanks! :)
And so the tradition continues....
Any of you using Android Annotations?
 
Pedro, that's alright. I was just going to try and help you if you didn't get it working
 
I have used it a bit, but not on anything "real"
 
1:36 PM
hey people
 
Sup
 
yo, kabuto
 
I was getting everything wrong. I didn't knew I had to set the background of the toolbar too. I thought that would be automatic after I set colorPrimary on the xml
 
I just added it to my project because it looks like it could be useful.
 
I used it enough to be able to make a couple tutorial videos about it
It definitely seems pretty cool.
chips away a lot of the boilerplate code involved in android
at the cost of some extra project setup
 
Extra setup? I just put it in Gradle and it's in, but I should really read what it can do.
 
ahh, I still haven't made the leap to AS so I haven't cozy'd up to gradle yet
 
Ha, that looks nice, Pedro
 
though I have been using PyCharm a ton lately and loving it. That is definitely pushing me closer to using AS
I've done relatively little straight android dev work lately though to be honest
 
Btw cM how is your DrawerLayout going?
 
1:42 PM
Terrible. I think I'm going to scrap it and start over without fragments
 
That was my path, I have been using PyCharm for years and then they announced Android Studio last year, I jumped on that. Make the leap, you won't regret.
 
what is your personal opinion on showing the drawer above the toolbar? I think it looks terrible :\
 
I'm not quite sure yet. I need to play some more but I think I might like it
 
I'm putting the toolbar outside the drawerlayout for that reason. I think it looks better. Google is not sure about that too. Google Music updated their app like 3 days ago and their showing navigation bellow toolbar. However, newstand is showing it above the toolbar..
 
I will have to look at it. TBH, I haven't paid much attention yet
I don't see a drawer on music. Newsstand I think is ok but the drawer seems to go out too far
 
1:50 PM
what is the time zone format of this date? 2014-10-31T00:00:00-02:00
 
I'm using that format on my programs not sure why
 
I've tried all possibilities between 0 and 5 Z's
 
They're calling it "iso format"
 
48
Q: How do I use DrawerLayout to display over the ActionBar/Toolbar and under the status bar?

Chris BanesI've seen in the new material design Side Nav spec that you can display the drawer over the action bar and behind the status bar. How can I implement this?

 
Oh nevermind i'ts diferent
yyyy-MM-dd'T'HH:mm:ss
 
1:53 PM
I just can't get the timezone
 
2013-08-16T20:41:50Z
 
Thanks, Abd, that could be useful. If this Chris Banes character knows what he's talking about
 
hmm.. I think I can simply ignore the timezone
 
new SimpleDateFormat("yyyy-MM-dd'T'HH:mm:ss'Z'", Locale.getDefault());
If that helps in any way, that's how I do it.
 
Good morning folks.
 
2:01 PM
nana, Z is not a string here
it's like -03:00
 
o/
Normally, when the configuration change implied the call of the onDestroy -> onCreate, the problem that when I put breakpoint on the onCreate method the debugger doesn't stop
 
Is the dash just a dash and the timezone is +2 or is there no timezone delimiter and it's -2?
 
Pedro, the posted link that refer to chris banies show that DrawerLayout must be at top level all times.
 
I noticed that. But I still don't like how it looks :\
 
yo android
 
2:10 PM
Also that doesn't happen on Google I/O for some reason.
 
oy TGM
I see.
 
2:24 PM
o/
 
\o
 
o/
 
guys whats up
how do I get google play services on an older tablet
I search the store but cannot find it
 
because of that I cannot register for GCM
 
2:33 PM
That makes it very hard to concentrate. And that's just one of two browser windows open
 
Looks like mine xD
 
Good, I'm not alone :D
 
That's just one window of three lol
 
2:34 PM
Lol, neightbor...what in the fuck!
 
tab hogs.
 
Ok, you guys are making me feel better.
 
This window is for stuff I'm currently working on. I have another of just awesome Android articles/posts/talks I want to read/watch
 
Pedro, we both have the appcompat tab open :P
 
ahah nice article :)
 
2:36 PM
 
All three of us Neighbor. Yes, it's a good one
 
They must made something like the above
 
Guess so, neighbor. On yours, it got lost in the other 60 tabs :P
 
Mr you are the winner
 
I don't know what it is but I just love tabs...I'm addicted
 
2:40 PM
I'm like.."Must not close this tab. I might need it later."
And then I'm with the same tab opened 10 times :\
 
> mine says signout. not sure if that is the same as unregister though
Ummm...probably not
 
I used to have browser windows open as opposed to tabs
yeah, killed the RAM
 
Oops, signing out actually does deactivate it. </facepalm>
 
Mee too!
 
I have no clue if this is real or fake: Looks like a proposal, is a divorce
 
2:48 PM
for those who don't want to open a lot of tabs with android developers documentation check out "zeal" for windows or "dash" for mac. it's a tool that fetches documentation and display it easily
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I just press alt+space and this popup shows up. :)
You can "subscribe" for a lot of documentation, like java, c# etc etc
 
@WarrenFaith I can't imagine that being real.
 
Can I bookmark/star/like/favorite/up vote/save docs for later?
 
No @MrEngineer13. This program works offline. Once you subscribe a language it will download all the documentation from the website and store it locally. So the docs are always on your computer. It's just a faster way to search for the documentation.
 
And then there is XTab that only allows you certain number ow tabs and teaches you new habits this way.
 
\o
 
2:55 PM
bor
 
orb
 
o/
 
@PedroOliveira missing a mention for Linux! :D
 
@WarrenFaith Sorry ahaha "Zeal" works for linux too :)
 
Installing Android, Java and Boostrap now
 
2:57 PM
@smail2133 denied for low A:Q ratio and using chat for support only. Go be more helpful in the community and request again
 
Deleting 50G of movies :(
 
Why?
 
there is a simulator on this page
To replay the movie, click on the device screen
but it does not seem to work, sound like a joke
 
nana, to get more space for new movies :)
 

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