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12:15 AM
Look what we made!
 
pareidolia would suggest that it looks like a face with two huge eyes, lol
what is it? pumpkin pie?
 
It's the only logical season for pumpkin pie
 
I just watched that, too!
 
hehe
the pie looks awesome though, adam
 
12:31 AM
hmm...My app's bday is this week
 
get it a pumpkin pie?
 
12:52 AM
ha hah
lol
 
wow...both a "ha hah" and a "lol" that must mean it's extra funny
 
pretty much, I guess I tickle Ahmad in his funny bone
and on that note I'm out for the night, later all
 
1:53 AM
It is pumpkin pie!
Woo!
Anyway I'm off to bed. Catch ya'll tomorrow.
 
 
4 hours later…
6:18 AM
yo
 
sup yo
 
nm.. yo sup?
 
Unit testing like a boss.
 
:D
 
6:53 AM
o/
berzerk, nice profile pic
 
ty ^^
\o
 
I like yours more Neutrino
 
ty
 
Mi gusta
 
hehe ya
 
6:57 AM
YoPeople!
 
yo
o/
 
It's the same logo of one of my favorite bands
 
@LawGimenez still waiting for their call
 
Yeah, I dont know bout their plans yet.
 
Tell them that if they don't I'll burn the office down
>:D
 
7:01 AM
=(
Haha yeh I'll tell you if something goes down.
 
AHAHAHHA
 
How's your unit testing going?
We are a TDD company, so
 
Yeah doing fine
 
Just passed my first code review, wheeew!
 
after this website project maybe tommorow gonna continue the jUnit testing
 
7:05 AM
Sounds good! =)
 
Still stuck in this joomla site T_T damit
 
Focus
haha
 
huh? focus in what?
 
On that joomla thang
 
7:26 AM
Morning
 
7:43 AM
afternoon
 
8:22 AM
\o
 
o/
 
\o
 
8:51 AM
some enum lunatic here?
I have a colleague doing review and every second suggestion is to "use an enum for that"
 
9:05 AM
Later guys.
 
bye bye
 
0
Q: R.java is automatically deleted when I do "Clean" project. Why?

AaronTeheni19I have this problem and I don't know how to fix it. When I clean the project and R.java was gone, I don't know how to fix it. I'd try to rebuild it, R.java still not shown. Can anyone help me to resolve this error?

 
9:29 AM
a comment said At least three cases where this code can not be singleton
 
reflection
through reflection you can get different instances of the Singleton class
 
9:45 AM
in this case reflection is one case else he said 3 cases ?
 
and you could also change the value of instance
I can think just two out threee
and both involve reflection
 
thanks bb
 
yw
 
in which cases would this matter?
 
a bored developer that wants to break something for instance
 
9:56 AM
oh ok :)
I wonder what the third mentioned case would be
 
292
Q: What is an efficient way to implement a singleton pattern in Java?

Riyaz Mohammed IbrahimWhat is an efficient way to implement a singleton pattern in Java?

 
an enum
 
10:29 AM
this is fun
0
Q: Performance: use Webview to display images instead of ImageView

Ha DoanIn my Android Activity, I want to display about 10 images from web. Normally, I have to create 10 ImageView to display each image, but ImageView may cause Out of memory exception. So I decide to use 10 WebView to display image. It worked great. But I don't know how performance of WebView, can an...

 
10:56 AM
I like this kind of question
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Q: What is the purpose of Serialization in Java?

m_a_khanI have read quite a number of articles on Serialization and how it is so nice and great but none of the arguments were convincing enough. I am wondering if someone can really tell me what is it that we can really achieve by serializing a class?

 
11:10 AM
for designer : gfxtra.net ;)
 
 
1 hour later…
12:19 PM
If you consider using Serialization in Android, stop and use Parcelable instead
way way way faster
though quite a bit to do by hand but worth the performance you gain
 
12:40 PM
o/
 
o/
 
\o
 
@DonChakkappan Welcome. Please read the room rules spifftastic.net/room.15
 
o/
 
\m/
 
12:51 PM
@WarrenFaith Listen to Warren!
sorry for the ping (I forgot)
 
there are some nice libs to help the nasty Parcelable mess
AutoParcelable and ParcelablePlease
annotation processors rock!
Also, congrats on the promotion Warren!
 
thanks, Emmanuel
 
@DonChakkappan, there are some many things wrong with your last message that I am just going to warn you not to ask for help like that again, thanks
 
we need new acceptance criteria
 
12:55 PM
and access cleanup but that is none of my business flies away
damn I am way too 9gag O.o
 
Morning
 
Morning, neighbor
 
o/
just found that MrEngineer13 made nice libs github.com/MrEngineer13 :D
 
Also, Warren/Emmanuel: There is an AS plugin called Android Parcelable code generator which will auto generate parcelable boilerplate for you
Thanks Abdellah :D
 
1:19 PM
HELLO WORLD
 
We had joy we had fun we had seasons in the sun.... sing
 
Bagels!
Sorry, to interrupt your song, Warren. It's a great song, but I'm excited about free bagels!
 
Donuts or GTFO!
 
Is that a bagel pack from Panera?
 
1:26 PM
Donuts are great. But I will certainly accept free bagels too ;)
It is, neighbor
 
Send me a cinnamon crunch!
 
Those are awesome!
@Spark Welcome! Please read the room rules
 
from @Rezoom
I honestly could do that 24/7
 
Skipping rocks is a whole lot more fun than what it seems like it should be
 
1:45 PM
Lol warren
1 message moved to Trash can
Them formattings.
Punctuation dude. Punctuation.
On top of the vampirism
 
2:04 PM
@codeMagic We get free bagels constantly, cM, you are not special, lol
 
I am special
My mommy told me so
 
right....she meant special....like special Ed....
 
lol
 
2:26 PM
I am linking an webview with a virtual visit, the problem that when i use the WebViewFragment the images shown on the webview are pixelated. Any idea
 
I am special as well, but I am not crazy, my mom got me tested!
 
@Akshat request denied for low A:Q ratio and using chat for support only. Go be more helpful and request again.
@sakthi denied for now for displaying help vampirism qualities and not many quality answers on SO. Go be helpful
 
:/
 
What's the problem, orb?
 
eclipse crashed
:/
 
2:39 PM
I added that to my daily routine long ago
 
That was a monthly event for me which is why I switched to AS
 
well, AS doesnt crash but you will have to restart it to continue working.
 
Yes and I ran into some issues when I first switched too
But the time I've spent dealing with AS bugs is far less than what I spent on Eclipse bugs
 
today i have lost some time with import problems
 
At first I would try to "fix" the bugs but after Eclipse crashing all too often towards the end I just would get a clean version
 
2:51 PM
Eclipse is out for Android Developer
 
it is not
 
Eclipse is still required for NDK related development afaik
never mind, seems to be outdated information on my side
 
3:06 PM
bb, one of the main thing (aar) are unsupported by eclipse
3
Q: How to support AARs in Eclipse?

AbdellahIn the new Gradle build system, we can package Android projects in very convenient .AAR format. Unfortunately the ADT Eclipse plugin, v22 , does not support this file format. Please can it do so.

 
changing ide it's not my call
 
we fought quite a while to get it changed to AS
 
Indeed
 
3:46 PM
does retrofit work with streaming JSON?
haven't found anything on Google :/
 
hm... good question
I don't know
 
Yes.
 
There seems to be an @Streaming annotation
 
I believe it does.
 
they also have a streaming package: retrofit.http.Streaming
 
3:50 PM
I saw the annotation, but wasn't sure if that was for some other http thing
let me investigate...
oh cool, maybe that is for what I need, thought it was for something else
 
\o
 
I am leaving, enjoy the evening!
 
you too
bye
 
Cya Warren
 
4:03 PM
cya
 
Hey, Carl. See ya, Warren
It's amazing what RTFM can do. Just answered a Twitter question and never used their sdk
 
I know orb
 
Morning Carl!
Bye Warren!
So I'm working from home today cos there's painters coming, apparently.
It's noon and there are currently zero painters present at my apartment.
On the bright side: It's way harder for people to interrupt me when I'm working from home. I'm actually getting some code written!
 
Now he wants help with FaceBook... never used that either, happy to say
 
link?
 
4:11 PM
Can you please help me with a code where I am able to post image on fb but not text. It was working earlier but I dont know where it got messed up. Can you please have a look once.? — Akshat 5 mins ago
I don't think he has an actual post on that yet
 
c'mon
help him
 
You're the facebook expert
 
:/
it is not fair, you know
:D
 
4:32 PM
o/
 
Later guys
 
\o
cya
 
erm, having problems with application launcher icon. just on one phone i get default one.
and i have icon file in drawables
 
nanananananananana Batman!
 
where's nana aka fu?
 
4:37 PM
bye guys
 
bye bb
 
 
That's funny, Ahmad
 
6:07 PM
 
Spoiler alert Ahmad! I'm not there yet
 
:D
 
6:26 PM
Hey all
 
hi Dave
 
yo o/
 
we went to this Internet of Things meetup yesterday, saw some pretty cool stuff. Hosted by these guys octoblu.com
They set up a drag and drop gui type system where they could look for tweets with a hashtag and it controlled a Halloween robot thing with an arduino board. So everytime a tweet came in it's eyes would light up and the jaw would drop
among other demos
 
haha nice :D
 
@DaveS yo
 
6:47 PM
Sounds cool, Dave!
 
Yeah it was pretty neat, the had bluetooth le robots and a video of a text 2 speech controlled car
 
Hey Guys.
 
o/
 
hey nana
 
naners!
 
6:54 PM
What did I miss?
 
It's going to be a sad day when you change your name back and I can't call you "naners" anymore
 
2 hours ago, by Carl Anderson
nanananananananana Batman!
 
I am slowly realizing that I might have to keep this name for a while:)
 
\o/
 
well at least for another couple weeks - you can only change your name every 30 days or something like that
 
6:56 PM
Yeah that would be the minimum... it kind of grows on me though. It's easy to pronounce, type and the avatar loves it.
 
what about NanaFu
 
That is another possibility, since everything I own ends with fu. Or fuho, Which is my real nick.
 
or Funana
fuhonana
 
Afternoon
 
o/
 
7:00 PM
Has anyone noticed how Google is asking for a lot more info these days?
like I was messing with my phone and I found this new permission that I never agreed to that sends my information to Google like everything
on Chrome
 
yo lucky
 
Yo yo Ahmad
 
Google knows everything about you
 
Sup' Lucky
 
everything
 
7:02 PM
I know
as with Facebook
 
The thing is, you can uplog from FB
I did, pretty much.
But, you can't unplug from Google. Or well, you can but it's a lot more difficult.
 
Hence why I use Eclipse
I bet you Google is taking your code as well on AS
shit is bad these days
 
AS is open source
so you could compile it yourself
but with the complexity of the code
everything can have back dors
 
you like how I just came in here and starting spreading the bad news
 
7:06 PM
But yes it is, now they added the login button in the top right in the IDE
 
right
has anyone gone over the AS code?
 
well it's built on top of the IntelliJ code
so the largest chunk is not from Google
but Jetbrains
 
right but that doesn't mean anything
 
and iirc nobody really looks into the Google part
 
They don'T have to steal your code... they want the data. User data, to better target ads.
 
7:09 PM
I don't use it so I don't know but if Google is taking all of our data why would they stop at your code?
 
Well, what good is your code to them?
 
really?
 
I can take you APK and disassemble it just as easily. I don't need to see your source.
 
true
 
right...but why do that if I can just have your code before you send out your app?
You know what is better than people's data?
peoples' work
 
7:11 PM
data is more important in terms of business
 
I don't know...having access to a million developer's thoughts is pretty valuable
 
Not really. I think data is more valuable. Also if they did that and someone found out imagine the shit storm.
They make money selling ads. And they know what type of person you are and what you'Re thinking about from your web history and Google searches.
 
they make money on apps as well
 
Apps devs make.
Not their apps, their apps are free, and they already have most of the best devs inhouse. I don't hink they lack talent.
 
And their own
 
7:15 PM
Their apps are free.
 
Well the better the FREE apps are the MORE money they make
 
:) I guess all I am trying to say is that I don't think they are stealing our source from AS right now.
 
You can make money on apps that are FREE
like Facebook
 
Google doesn't need to steal code from small time developers. Imagine all the junk you'd have to go through just to find something that is decent, and if it's decent it's probably the same way google devs would already do it
the smarter move is to just have an automated system to collect data on usage, etc. Info is how they make money.
 
I am sure they already do
 
7:21 PM
If it ever got out that Google was stealing code from developers there'd be a massive backlash, stock prices would tank, app development would take a huge down turn, it'd make Apple seem more appealing
 
Google makes money on their apps
 
Then if you have an app which does something you like and have no idea how they did it, you disassemble it.
That's how it has been done for decades.
Also if you have an algorithm you'd like to keep to yourself, you probably write it elsewhere, and just call it from your code. It is also highly unlikely it will also be in written in Java.
 
Right...All I am saying is I use Eclipse because Google deals in information
 
Ok
I like AS because I like IntelliJ.
 
what are Usage Statistics anyway?
 
7:25 PM
 
what up Code
 
Yo, Lucky
 
I like how google just asked if I was sure that I wanted to go to that site
 
haha
They don't want the weirdo in the tin hat to tell you the truth
 
They want to make sure we all know that the weirdo is just a weirdo. Not that he actually figured it out.
 
7:29 PM
C'mon, if that guy can't be trusted, then who can?
 
Fucking reptilians.
 
I like how you use Chrome but wont use AS
 
No shit
bastards
 
7:31 PM
One of my co-ops just opened a pull request with the comment "good luck". Oh dear.
 
:)
What's a co-op? Co-operator?
 
I think so
 
 
lol
 
Right now I am the one the right.
 
7:45 PM
I think we're all on the right
most of the time
 
I am left
haha
 
:D
 
always right xD, if it compiles the first time however -- left :D
 
I once went two hours without compiling
and that thing compiled
and worked. just imagine.
 
I'm usually on the right except sometimes I write something and say to my self: "Good job self, that wasn't half bad"
 
7:52 PM
Err, a co-op is what they call interns from the university here. Not sure why.
 
I'm usually in superposition of the two states =p
 
Ooh
 
if anyone is good @ chem, no onebox :( -> chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/18435/…
 
8:35 PM
<- sucks at chem
 
hello all
 
yo o/
 
That was funny until the punchline...I didn't get it
 
You need to know that Walley doesn't do anything
he is as lazy as I am
 
anyone had problems with icons in AS ?
launcher icons, that is
 
8:41 PM
Ah, ok
 
what kind of problems network?
 
He's a "pork" not a "work"
 
Alright, I'm out for a bit.
Bee cool...stay in school
 
@Ahmad on certain phones, launcher icon doesnt show
i have defined icon in manifest and have the icon file in all drawables
 
8:57 PM
sometimes phones have trouble loading drawables
 
didn't have that problem... yet
 
I have...
 
@codeMagic Nowadays if you want to be cool, you have to drop out of school
clearly you're not in touch with today's generation
 
It's a good thing drawables aren't important to the Android experience.
 
I had a background image that was a big png
and it wouldn't load on certain phones
exactly Carl
 
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