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12:15 AM
night guys
 
 
8 hours later…
8:07 AM
Good morning for a new week!
 
8:25 AM
Morning
 
8:48 AM
Morning
 
9:03 AM
it's Graeme! ^_^
 
It is me, hello
 
how's life?
 
Good - Married now!
 
9:18 AM
Marriage, Mortgage, Car, Career,
 
life
:P
 
Unfortunately I only have on teeny tiny checkbox to tick before I'm officially "normal"
(and considered a success in societies eyes)
 
o.O this 'tiny checkbox' being...?
 
Childrens o.o
 
oh right yes, very tiny ;)
 
9:21 AM
One which, if i'm being honest, I don't think either of us want enough to actually do.
On the bright side, we win as successful gay men because we already have cats!
 
hahaha
yes, I'm not sure if I ever want kids. But I'm only 17, what do I know?
 
Yeah, you've got the easy option though
(Distasteful as it may be ;))
 
haha, depends :P
 
9:39 AM
True
Well, either way, you have more options than us :P
 
did you have any preferences on how you wanted to 'acquire' a child? (hehe)
 
Yeah, Sister Egg, Partners Sperm, Surrogate Womb.
Super super super expensive
We might try fostering at some point instead.
 
interesting
I wonder if you could get the DNA from one of both of your gametes, then put them both in an egg then surrogate womb
even more expensive! :D
 
I doubt genetic engineering is within my pricerange
Would be awesome if it was though!
 
hehehe
I'll do it for you!
just give me like 6 years to graduate uni and get into CSIRO... or somewhere
 
9:50 AM
I doubt at that stage you'll have a lab, lab assistants and enough power to go under the radar for me. But thanks for the offer!
 
hi there
 
Hey Warren!
 
Congrats to you Graeme! You have done it!
 
Yup! :D
 
And? How do you feel?
 
9:52 AM
finally hands in resignation letter .... feels weird
 
do you have a new job at hand Merlin?
 
nope
 
Woo @Merlin, Proud of you
@WarrenFaith Hard to say, my best friend died on Friday so having trouble supressing the correct emotions.
 
oh I am so sorry :(
 
@Graeme he was in a bad way for a while waasn't he/
 
9:56 AM
:(
 
Month or so this time
Bah, it's okay, no sad faces.
Haven't actually let it hit me yet - for the love of goodness doesn't tear down the walls while I'm at work!
Oh dear, that killed the conversation.
Forget that bit!
 
sorry ... I zoned out a bit ... I'm still in shock from my trip to the office today
the boss was in a meeting so I gave my letter and keys to the financial controller girl
 
You not have a notice to work?
 
in hindsight I should have planted a snog on her face before I walked out the door
something I always wanted to do
 
so your resignation is immediately?
 
10:05 AM
DAMMIT MERLIN! Now you're going to have to get another job there, then resign all over again, just to kiss the god damn girl
4
 
@Graeme I never agreed to the terms so never signed my contract
 
Oh er, that's a bit dangerous
 
for who?
 
Well, you,
 
10:07 AM
people walk out of jobs all the time
 
Yeah, well, it's alright now obviously!
Enjoy having your life back :) I've had a week off and I'm already struggling to reacclimatise to being back at work
 
Cheers ;) Before I forget, how was the wedding?
 
Good! Weddingy
We only remembered that neither of us can dance at the 1st Dance. That was the only bad bit.
 
It's probably definitely tricky if you are both trying to lead :)
 
10:33 AM
We didn't even know there was a follow and lead so I just tried to sway nicely, Carlos decided it was time to be silly and start doing Michael Jackson moves >.< Was awful.
 
+1 @ carlos for moonwalking the 1st dance
 
urgh
 
you should've John Travolta'd him back to steal the show ;)
 
I was mortified.
 
Well you should not have been ... if you wanted it to be strictly ballroom you should have insisted on lessons beforehand ... I know that there was a lot to organize so I'm not blaming, but no point it getting upset about it ... try to see the funny side and bask in the love of the funny man that you married
 
10:46 AM
It's okay, not blaming anyone,
That's exactly what I said - It's not that we missed out the 1st dance practice and things, it's just we had so many other things to organise we didn't get around to that bit.
We did our best and if that's the only thing we didn't get done, then it's not too bad!
Oh, also, we still haven't decided on a last name
 
So how about you go and take those lessons now ... you can have your first (proper) dance on your anniversary
besides it's something nice to soak up an otherwise routine autumn evening
name isn't important ... that can wait
 
Tried that before hand, Carlos is a singer not a dancer
 
 
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11:55 AM
Anyone know how the G+ app animates posts as you scroll?
 
12:11 PM
Magic?
 
I'd like to know how this magic occurs
 
A combination of magic words and arcane gestures by the imp that lives in your device.
 
I'll take that as a "I have no idea"
 
You would be taking it correctly yes
 
12:45 PM
morning friends! :-)
@Merlin ^maybe it's a match? :P
 
Finally moved over to InteliJ
 
what do you think?
 
Expect rage posts in the near future :P
I think nothing so far, just opened a new project
 
I'm finally feeling at home in Eclipse
oh, right on
Kcopock uses it
 
Starting a new app called MealTime
 
12:50 PM
whats it gonna do
 
catalogues all meals within the uni
 
universe? :P
 
university :P
 
hah, that sounds more reasonable
 
It's an assignment for now, will expand later
 
12:51 PM
I shall make sure to use it if I go to UNSW
 
I'm thinking about my choice for my next app, I'm thinking about one for fun called "Emails Through Time"
you can send an email to people (or even yourself) at any point in time...so for future dates, I'll hold it and then submit it, but give the effect for fun that it actually goes through time. Even past dates and it will write a reply for fun
in reality this would require to maintain it for the rest of my life depending on how far forward people go which will be fine for a fun project...kind of like an electronic time capsule in effect
i'll make it an open project because for it to work would require maintenance of the server side stuff forever
I'll have a warning when sending it to the past "WARNING: Do not share information about the future as you could irrevocably alter the timeline!"
 
@AnthonyTanas how were you intending on showing the messages as from the past?
 
sweet, did you use ROmain Nuerik's tool for those shots?
@ProfSmiles what do you mean?
 
how are you sending emails to the past? :P
 
12:57 PM
@AnthonyTanas All done manually.
 
lol, well the past won't actually send :P I'll just make it seem like it does, it will be for fun. I'll write an algorhythm to craft a reply back
 
@Glitch not bad
 
@Glitch there is a tool to do that
let me find it for you, it's cool, it has tons of sizes
 
I prefer doing it manually
 
Oh kk
 
1:00 PM
Also another domain, for my other secret project
 
This webpage is not available
The webpage at http://unswmealtime.com/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
:) :P
 
Well yeah, I own the name, its not linked to a host yet :P
 
unsw =?
 
I'll let Glitch answer :P
 
Name of the uni
 
1:04 PM
AHh
 
University of New South Wales (Australia) :P
 
haha fair ok :P
 
AKA best university, run by a tard
 
49th in the world
 
Haha who cares about rankings
 
1:08 PM
hehe
 
morning folks
 
Basically "Eclipse sucks, Google want you to fix it. Now"
There's computing student shortages everywhere
In Australia universities are begging for them
 
student shortages as in the market(employers) are hungry for them ? or just because the universities has empty seats?
 
Both
 
1:21 PM
funny in Germany all you hear is: "You do media informatics? Crap everybody does that these days..."
 
That's not real computing
 
Same here - tonnes of IT graduates, just goes to show their are a lot of jobs.
 
Considering I've been paid 8k to write an app without them knowing who I am, I can attest to it.
I've never met the client
 
@Glitch's favourite lecturer, when he visited my school, absolutely emphasised to never do any course with "information" in the name :P
 
@Glitch 8k €?
 
1:31 PM
AUD
 
how much is that worth?
 
you could just Google it :P
 
you could just answer :)
 
xe.com
 
1:32 PM
decent amount of money then, which app did you make for that?
 
Some government app
When it's done I'll link it from the Play Store
 
Ahh not done yet ;)
Only doing it in android?
 
yeah
 
No matter how many times I see this, it makes me crack up.
 
1:46 PM
???
 
It's mocking the "text and drive" ads
 
Why?
 
Because it's funny
 
IC
 
2:17 PM
turns out in my ISP's login source code is
<!--
    Hey there hacker! If you are interested in working on Toolbox, email your vitals to [email]!
-->
 
heh
 
nice
we had a mail bomber at my school once... after nearly get kicked he had a job offer :)
 
2:33 PM
once
 
3:16 PM
Can you use Google Lisenceing on free apps?
 
Note: The Google Play Licensing service is primarily intended for paid applications that wish to verify that the current user did in fact pay for the application on Google Play. However, any application (including free apps) may use the licensing service to initiate the download of an APK expansion file.
I have no idea if that is useful to you :)
 
Thanks Donald, I also JUST put it[the question -- with more detail] up on SO.
Might be my most popular question yet O.o
 
is there a descent program to manage your music / images from your desktop? (Linux: Ubuntu)
 
3:32 PM
i think rhythmbox is the default
for music
 
but it sucks :P
 
oh
haha, I haven't used it much
 
I just tried to sync my music to my phone and everything is unknown for artist, name, track, time, etc.
 
odd
they show up in rhythmbox though?
I thought those tags were pretty standard at this point
album artwork, though... seems you never know with that
 
ahhh Drag and Drop works fine.
jus tthe sync options messes things up
 
3:36 PM
hrm... bug?
i'd try it but my work pc has no music on it
oh, maybe it does have some
nothign that isn't on my phone already, though
well that's shitty. phone doesn't even show up
 
glad everyone hates my video games :( I would recommend Smite but then you all would poo poo on it
(I also am not a huge fan of Dust)
 
"If Rhythmbox Music Player does not detect your device as a portable audio player, you can create an empty file named .is_audio_player at the top level hierarchy of the filesystem of your player."
@Pyrodante I've been sucked in by War of the Roses and Mount & Blade
yeah, rhythmbox appears to suck
 
so the job includes not just apps but working on the Android OS - straight out of AOSP code and everything...so I told them no experience in that but I learn quick, not sure if that will be an issue, but an issue for me is...
 
sounds like XMMS is still around
 
he said dress depends on your job, programmers are jeans and a collared shirt...besides my one outfit for weddings and funerals I don't own a collar (and it's really important for me to dress how I chose)
 
3:47 PM
dress codes are silly in this biz
 
i know
 
We have a pretty serious dress code :(
 
Dropping in for a microsecond to point something out
@anthony in your app's help document, you misspelled actually for the exit option explanation.
 
a big part of their business is B2B sales, they sell business internet services, my division will be a small division working on a project so the overall culture might be more formal business oriented, and that's why...if they are interested in persuing this further, I'm going to just tell them, I can do the jeans but no collar...I'll say it tactfuly. I was talking to a friend about it and she can't understand why that would be a make it or break it factor for me
 
@rlemon maybe VLC player?
if you are meeting with customers I can understand
 
3:50 PM
Also, I'm hopefully getting a fully working laptop back tomorrow. Then I can talk here in full, instead of just reading and butting in every now and then.
 
Raghav, thank you, I'm a horrible speller :( can you shoot that in an email so I don't forget? Also, I was wondering if you could, redact anything personal you don't want me to see, but I wanted to see the info you got when you purchased my app?
ok cool
:)
 
I already hate InteliJ
Just saying
 
Does that strike you as weird that I wouldn't accept a job based on something as seemingly trivial as a collar? My friends and family don't understand me in that but it's a big deal in principal...for one reason, I'm not gonna fit, for another I can't stand the concept of working somewhere where people feel they need to tell you how to dress
@Glitch you can't decide something like that so quickly, you have to get through the learning curve first
 
No problem. Can I do it tomorrow? I've somehow managed to un install all Google apps like Gmail and play store and can't seem to be able to flash the gapps.zip without my laptop.
 
I can't work out how to add a library project
 
hey
3:53 PM
hey, who does have an app in android market?
my installs stats hasn't been updated for a few days (developer console works fine)
 
@RaghavSood yes, that's cool, I added it to my list already :) but still would like to see that, and also pass along anything (issues/bugs) i should change...oh and let me know before you start on translating so I can get you the latest
 
@AnthonyTanas I asked for shorts when I interviewed for my current job
 
I have an app @hey
what did they say @FoamyGuy ?
 
hey
@AnthonyTanas Has your install stats been updated?
 
if it was hot out and we weren't planning to meet with someone important
 
hey
3:55 PM
yesterday, today?
 
there was no mention of dress during my interview/orientation
 
lemme see
 
when it got hot, i wore shorts
 
where do you mean exactly @hey, I'm newly published...on the dev console, or in the listing?
 
hey
no, not on the dev console
play.google.com
 
3:56 PM
a few months in though after I completed my first major project we got an email that said shorts/flip flops were fine around the office, just dress it up a bit if we are trying meeting someone we are trying to sell too
We have collar shirts too though
 
@hey I had a purchaser rate me five stars and saw that yesterday. I sold one copy sat and one on sun...one of them rated me five stars with no text and that showed
 
I just got some comfy polos that are like T-shirt material, I don't even notice the collar any more
 
hey
anyone else?
 
@FoamyGuy so shorts and collared shirts?
 
hey
INSTALLS:
 
3:57 PM
yeah thats what I wear most days.
 
hey
it shows me 50-100 for 5 days probably
 
I can live with no shorts, but not with having to have a collar
 
I don't get hounded if I wear a T-shirt on a random day though
 
@hey market stats are worse than useless. I'd recommend using flurry or Google analytics for stats.
 
@hey mine doesn't say how many installs yet
 
3:57 PM
so its not strict perse
I am the opposite, no shorts would've eventually been a deal killer for me
 
hey
I just want that installs would be shown to others, that's it
 
I dress well, stylishly IMO...hipsterish but I just can't do prepyish
do you guys think I should say something to them now, or wait to find out if they are really interested in me before saying something about dress?
 
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