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morn
 
 
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3:57 AM
Hello Room!
 
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"You are very powerful, provided you know how powerful you are." -Yogi Bhajan (source)
 
For some reason, code saved has become very strange. int is now inv. import is i-port... I've used different software to view the files but still have issues. Any suggestions? Thanks

http://i.imgur.com/H8nAtjB.jpg
 
 
1 hour later…
5:30 AM
@Jdoh it's probably a file-related issue, like something weird is happening to the encoding or something.
 
I've tried different computers too. Any idea how I can fix it?
 
 
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user7627726
6:52 AM
hello all
 
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user7627726
ok
 
user7627726
should eclipse not be used?
 
DSK
ok
 
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user7627726
6:54 AM
i feel like eclipse is a little TOO helpful, but i like to use it
 
user7627726
hi DSK
 
DSK
eclipse or netbeans? which on is best
 
user7627726
idk
 
DSK
hi
 
intelliJ
 
user7627726
6:55 AM
i've never used netbeans
 
DSK
idk? means
hi @Ta
 
user7627726
eclipse is nice, because it tells you what errors you have BEFORE running your program, unlike terminal
 
user7627726
i feel like eclipse is like a calculator
 
DSK
hi @Tavo intelliJ is best?
 
Eclipse is to IntelliJ what Notedpad is to Eclipse
 
user7627726
6:56 AM
@DSK "idk" stands for "I Dont Know"
 
user7627726
hi shashe
 
DSK
ok
gud
 
user7627726
hi shashi
 
@theProgrammer101 Hello!!
 
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user7627726
6:57 AM
i feel like nobody was here 2 minutes ago, now everyone is flooding in
 
it's start of the day in Europe
 
same goes for India
 
user7627726
its 12 in America
 
almost mid BTW
 
user7627726
good night.
 
user7627726
6:58 AM
i'm tired
 
not so many people from the Middle East or APac in the channel
 
@theProgrammer101 haha good night man
 
user7627726
@shashi and good morning to you
 
user7627726
cricket.... cricket.... strange silence......
 
user7627726
ok. ACTUALLY good night now
 
user7627726
7:00 AM
or morning
 
user7627726
or afternoon
 
user7627726
or whatever it is for you people out there
 
anyone here ran sonarqube locally from intellij?
I run it on an CI server but want to raise the test coveraage and want instant coverage feedback
the plugin is called sonar lint
 
@theProgrammer101 have you like slept or still lurking around.
this is going to be pretty vague question but can anyone here convince me as a JS guy why to learn JAVA today !!
 
7:28 AM
NetworkServerControl server.start(new PrintWriter(System.out, true));
Soanr is complaining about this - what would I replace System.out with?
 
8:19 AM
mron
 
morn
 
morning :)
 
\o
 
o/
 
8:39 AM
@ItachiUchiha whoop whoop!
@wonderb0lt yo dawg
 
@Tavo You seem to be pretty excited today :P
 
my furniture is home finally
and I might be changing jobs, but who knows...
;)
 
:D
:|
 
@wonderb0lt ??
if I do change jobs, we might want to speak again ;)
 
|-8
so you envy me?
 
8:45 AM
you said it
 
;)
/fatcat
 
because Uni loves you
 
have "fun"
with uni...
 
he wants your babies
 
8:47 AM
@Tavo I was first happy for you then sad for me
uni is grill
 
@Tavo Already?
 
@wonderb0lt have you looked at the companies I mentioned?
 
^ uni in real life
 
@ItachiUchiha yup. A few reasons. One of them being over 60% raise and a huge bonus. But not the most important ones at all
 
@Tavo Not yet, PowerShell is keeping me busy :P
 
8:49 AM
@wonderb0lt That looks more like Hem or Gem ;P
 
lel
 
@Tavo You are insatiable ;)
 
I just can't get enough!
 
@Unihedron Are you human?
 
yeah its boat
 
8:50 AM
@Unihedron or are you dancer?
 
@Dr.Sam Syntax: /learn commandName output
 
@Dr.Sam Saved.
 
/uni
i said
/uni
-.-
Fatality!
:)
reptile
i liked sub zero on mk x
sonya
yeah big t...
 
9:06 AM
@ItachiUchiha always been obsessed with Fergie...
 
9:44 AM
Morning!
 
10:19 AM
morn
 
10:32 AM
What is the next step up from a junior developer?
 
senior dev
and then you die
 
Hi all. Can I ask question?
 
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:P
 
o/
 
10:33 AM
this is not tech support! I'm out!!!
 
\o
 
bye
 
How long does it typically take to move up to a senior developer from a junior developer?
 
couple of years
depends
 
Is there anything after Senior Developer?
Like Software Engineer?
 
10:41 AM
death
 
xD
So, Senior Developer is the last thing you can really become?
 
unless you switch fields
 
That'd be a waste of years
 
but you might ask someone else
im only a junior dev myself
 
I see
Do you get paid well?
 
10:42 AM
Its alright
 
I see
 
I can live from it
and your income really depends on the company
 
@CrashBandicoot Depends on your company, really
 
and the city
 
I'm living in London
Does Junior Developer mean you've graduated?
Working in London
 
10:43 AM
They usually have a career model, some companies have fixed goals you need to achieve before you're considered for a promotion
 
I see
 
You should ask your HR department
They know this stuff
 
Do Developers get paid well generally?
 
Just want to let you know that workplace.SE exists
 
as far as what i heard
london is a rather expensive city
so you probably should get paid well
but you should know best if living in london is expensive ;)
 
10:47 AM
he he
 
Yep, London can be quite expensive, depending on where in London you live
House prices are too expensive to buy nowadays, in London
But transport is fairly inexpensive
I'm thinking of cycling to work, which is about 40 minutes
 
healthy
and now possible thanks to the cycling superhighways
 
You live in London?
 
No, just well informed on matters of cycling and transportation ;)
 
@wonderb0lt I see, where are you from?
I'm presuming Germany
 
10:51 AM
How did you guess?
 
I think I recall from yesterday's chat
 
heh :)
 
Is it inexpensive to live there?
 
It depends
big cities like Munich are very very expensive
 
I see
 
10:55 AM
and also its less expensive in the east
of germany
in bavaria basically everything is expensive
:p
 
Average house prices in London are about £500,000 - £600,000
So, about 600,000-700,000 euros
 
In Our company we have:
Graduate
Junior dev
Senior dev
Architect
Senior Architect
 
And that's for a 3-4 bed house
@MehdiB. Nice to know
They have that in my company too
I'm guessing Software Architects get paid more than Senior Developers?
 
muuuuuuch more
 
What country are you from?
 
10:58 AM
Architects are paid here around the double of Senior devs
I'm from Morocco
 
I see
That must be a general thing though?
 
yes
when you usually reach the architect level
means that you've made up your mind on staying on the tech side
 
If I'm correct, are you talking about Solution Architects?
 
There are a lot of variants, but what I'm talking about are Software Architects
 
I mean, after you graduate, I don't see the point in changing careers, because of the time consumption
and dedication
 
10:59 AM
Solution architects are here tied to solutions/sales as well
 
One should make up their mind before going to university
 
well sometimes in life you decide to change things up
 
I guess
 
no matter what time you spent into your previous job
 
and sometimes people get tired of tech and stress around it
so they move to other fields such as management
 
11:00 AM
All jobs have some element of stress
but, you can also move into management in IT
like a Project Manager
 
yes, or a Managing consultant
I've seen a lot of architects moving to Senior Managing Consultant
 
Hopefully these things open up down the line
There's always a reason
What is the difference between a Software Developer and a Software Engineer?
 
in practice, pretty much nothing, you choose how you want to market yourself
depends on the term your country likes more
 
Software Engineer sounds better xD
/wiki Software Engineering
 
Software engineering (SWE) is the application of engineering to the development of software in a systematic method. == Definitions == Typical formal definitions of software engineering include: "Research, design, develop, and test operating systems-level software, compilers, and network distribution software for medical, industrial, military, communications, aerospace, business, scientific, and general computing applications"—Bureau of Labor Statistics "the systematic application of scientific and technological knowledge, methods, and experience to the design, implementation, testing, and...
 
11:04 AM
Engineer is wider though, it doesn't tell what you're really doing dev or integration etc..
haha :D
 
I see
Thanks for the advice!
What did you say you're doing currently?
 
I'm a full-stack developer
I do Backend and Android (I've stopped doing frontend a few time ago)
 
Nice
How long have you been doing that for?
 
@Dr.Sam no
@wonderb0lt no
 
I'm close to 5 years now
 
11:12 AM
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That's a long time... :)
 
11:31 AM
> stopped frontend
> does android

???
 
web frontend :)
 
Morning, Java!
 
Morning Michael
 
morning@Michael
lunch time
later
 
Enjoy!
 
11:37 AM
ty
 
11:48 AM
Hey @Crash @Hans
 
@Michael How's life?
 
12:11 PM
Sonar is complaining about this:
private Writer printWriter = new PrintWriter(System.out, true);
Found reliance on default encoding
I know I need to add UTF-8, but where is it expecting it?
 
hey guys i know this is unrelated, but im trying to clone a java app with git + github access token inside a dicker container and im getting a prompt for a password. i was using alpine before and i switched to centos and now im getting this... i dont know what to do any experience with this?
looks like this: git clone https://MY_SUPER_LONG_KEY_HERE@github.com/USERNAME/REPO.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /REPO/.git/
Password:

but the whole idea of using git + accesstoken is that it wont prompt me for it :/
LOL i solved my own issue, stupid git v1.7.1, i needed to do: git clone MY_SUPER_LONG_KEY_HERE:@github…
^^ notice the ":" between the "E" and the "@"
carry on boys and girls
 
 
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1:25 PM
Morn =-=
 
=.=
hello
 
Morning geister
 
programmed on a project yesterday evening... nice music in the background, got stuff done, stuff worked...
Then I looked on the fcking clock
3 am O_O
 
woahh
 
=_=
 
1:27 PM
It actually feels good hearing you got it done and working
Completion and success are key
 
I am actually surprised though that the stuff works... I made one idiotic mistake but most of it even worked in the first try proud
 
Indeed :D
 
When you are into some*, time flies. Whether that is something or someone :D
 
Set myself a deadline for this weekend... Looking good so far :)
Heyya Itachi :)
 
1:28 PM
@ItachiUchiha Agree with you so much
*someone xD
By project, is it something you're doing for yourself, to learn Java?
 
half true, half false :D I am doing it for a streamer, but for learning/keeping up with Java, yeah :)
 
It sounds interesting and something I want to do
But I don't know how to start or what to do... xD
I'm sure I'll learn Java much better like that
 
What would be something fun, you would like to do?
I always get stuck on that point as well :P
 
@geisterfurz007 I once wrote a method at that time of day and the next morning, saw that it does absolutely nothing
loops through stuff, checks things, assigns variable never to be read again, return
 
Btw... I had a horrible dream this night >.> For whatever reason a virus removed all my programs and only a music programm constantly playing horrible music...
@wonderb0lt Sounds efficient! xD
 
1:34 PM
I want to start on a project
 
I made a nice one as well yesterday night. I saw that once one task was stopped, it could never be started again. So I did this:

stopped = true;
new Thread {
while (!stopped) {
...
All of a sudden that task was not working anymore..
Found it though :D
 
@geisterfurz007 that looks a bit confusing
xD
Sorry, I'm quite the beginner
 
Short story: A thread can be used to do things "parallel to each other". The Thread I created was supposed to run along the rest of the program (counting down stuff each second). Condition for the Thread I have to run is that the process is not stopped. As the genious I obviously am, I set stopped to true, so that teh Thread would just stop after beeing started as the condition resolves to false :D
 
Makes more sense, thanks
I'm guessing this is advanced Java?
I've only just covered the fundamentals
 
Depends on where advanced starts :D
 
1:42 PM
@CrashBandicoot What's advanced Java?
 
Everyone else in my class is well ahead of me
 
I'd say it's intermediate programming knowledge
 
By Fundamental, I mean understanding Methods, Classes, Objects, Basic OOP, and an introduction to Unit Testing
Yeah sorry, I meant intermediate
When we're given an assignment, I struggle to do it, while everyone else can
 
@CrashBandicoot You will get there, eventually!
 
Should I start my own project now, or would it be better to do it later?
 
1:51 PM
Depends on how much spare time you have, I would say. If you have some, why not?
 
I have plenty of time, but I struggle with Java, even the basics
And I'm at a point where I don't know what to do xD
 
Everyone has to start somewhere :D
 
Thanks!
 
@CrashBandicoot projecteuler.net for some general things, maybe? I only got to 12 as well :D
 
It sounds difficult
I'll have to concrete my understanding of the basics first
Before I can move on to an intermediate level
 
1:58 PM
The first of them are not really intermediate I would say... I guess you know loops already?
The main problem of these tasks are mostly to find the proper algorithm
 
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