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12:41 AM
morn
 
1:00 AM
o/
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/42990583 --- a "please fix our Web site" question with next to no info. Summary: "when we click on track parcel we receive reponse as "0" ... kindly help me to resolve this issue." My "unclear what you're asking" flag has been pending for about 5 days now. (I'm new to SO chat, and I didn't see a FAQ for this channel aside from the sidebar. If messages like this should go somewhere else, please point the way.)
 
@KevinJ.Chase Are you sure you're new to SO chat? It said you last talked about 150 days ago.
 
Did I? I honestly don't remember.
A recruiter contacted me through chat a few months back... maybe that counts?
 
probably
 
Anyway, am I off-topic with that post, or OK?
 
1:05 AM
waaaaay off-topic
;)
 
Sorry. I remember there's a place for this sort of thing, but I can't find it.
I'd found the Python chat channel's guidelines for close-votes. I was hoping they would be "close enough" for here. Sorry to bother everyone.
 
@KevinJ.Chase Regarding the text in your avatar, it should be "your" not "you're".
just fyi
 
<grin>
 
1:53 AM
Kept you waiting huh?
 
@Yussef I don't think anyone was waiting
 
2:53 AM
night all
/afk sleep
 
@Michael Cya later.
 
3:18 AM
@JennaSloan jejeje sorry it is a prashe from a video game character :) my bad
 
3:56 AM
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6:26 AM
Morn
 
 
2 hours later…
8:04 AM
morn
 
good morning, @chatty people!
 
O/
 
8:33 AM
Hey @unserializable
 
8:52 AM
good morning Java
 
morning
o/
 
\o
 
Hey @DRich :)
 
@geisterfurz007 o/
How's it going?
 
9:14 AM
Cannot complain (except of beeing tired but that was my fault :/ )
And yourself?
 
Clinging on to the last minutes before lunch
 
lunch \o/
 
9:58 AM
aaaaaaaand end of the day for me
see y'all tomorrow, chaps
 
Bye-bye
 
bye
 
10:11 AM
what's up fellas
 
Hi @Tim, apparently almost nothing's up.
 
that's not much
 
Hey @TimCastelijns o/
 
... ah, there are rumours of new and powerful overlord bots by Unihedron and geisterfurz007 and others that will become the masters of Java chat :)
 
sounds scary
 
10:17 AM
pfff
 
I saw it in the wild once.
 
Yeah man that thing is so powerful
</irony>
 
But it did not 'eval' my evil commands as well as I had hoped.
 
I myself am going shopping now and then returning to write Java code to parse arbitrarily many command-line parameters with JCommander
 
10:20 AM
nothing
this chat is dead most of the time
 
Sitting in college lecture
And in the previous lecture I was cursing about a program I was writing in the meantime
And yourself @TimCastelijns ? Haven't seen you in a long time :O
 
I was busy moving and stuff, and kind of forgot to come here
 
:O Where do you live now? Still Netherlands or different country?
 
yeah
moved from eindhoven to amsterdam
 
>.>
Ah ok :)
Was just about to blame you for answering an or-question with Yeah :D
How is it there?
 
10:30 AM
yeah
 
Now I know what I missed >.>
 
yeah?
 
Never had such a deep conversation
 
10:37 AM
yeah
!!fishgame
 
11:33 AM
So here's something fun
I'm moving my Spring Web App to Hibernate
I've got the parts connected
and the application runs
It creates and updates tables and so on
But I have no idea where anything is going
As in, the database that I reference in the datasource doesn't have the tables Hibernate insists it has created
 
11:46 AM
Mighy be a) classic example of either some kind of 'autodefult' resulting in use of some kind of embedded database b) classic example of configuration read from somewhere else than it is assumed te be read.
 
Yeah, it has to be one of those two things
Just not sure which
I mean...
It's not as if hibernate drops empty tables, right?
 
With certain configuration it can even drop non-empty tables.
 
Well yeah, you can tell it to drop whatever
 
i vaguely recall something like create-drop :)
 
but by default, without specifying anything- if it creates a table that ends up having no data in it, it's not going to automatically drop it, right?
"create-drop"....
 
11:55 AM
I have no idea what Hibernate 'default' configuration is nowadays, especially after mixing in Spring.
 
yeah, I'll figure it out, I'm sure
 
Haha, googling for create-drop gives third option (in case you checked database after shutting down application) c) schema is indeed created but dropped when the application is stopped or SessionFactory is explicitly closed.
 
/fatcat
 
12:14 PM
2 days ago, by Nicktar
that's not a cat, that's a ball on legs
 
12:31 PM
~JavaBot at your service
 
--unsummon
 
1:05 PM
Hello, does anyone have a nice example of a combination of reactive functional java with threading?
 
1:19 PM
!!mecow
 
@geisterfurz007 Moo...MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
!!meow
 
!!meow
 
1:21 PM
!!meow
 
!!meow
 
The last one looks like reactive cat, but otherwise I agree with your sentiment.
 
1:23 PM
It's Garfield :O
 
but i want a help with reactive functional threaded cats
!!meow
 
look a pool of 3 cats
one is idle
 
One of the best of possible outcomes, certainly.
 
!!pizza 250 500
 
!!pizza 500 250
 
!!pizza help
 
@RaduStefanPopescu Input not matching /(\d+)\s(\d+)/. Help: User-taught command: 'gives <>http://lorempizza.com/$1/$2#.png
 
!!help pizza
 
@geisterfurz007 pizza: User-taught command: 'gives <>http://lorempizza.com/$1/$2#.png
 
1:25 PM
but i needs some pizza help not a help pizza
 
@RaduStefanPopescu You put in two integers after to define the image dimensions
!!pizza 100 100
 
yeah i can read as much regex
!!pizza 420 69
 
!!pizza 1337 420
 
pizza with marbles
 
!!pizza 400 800
 
1:27 PM
!!info pizza
 
@geisterfurz007 That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: bot
 
!!pizza 1 1
 
high quality programming chat
 
@geisterfurz007 Command pizza, created by rlemon on Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:28:06 GMT
 
!!pizza 3 1415
 
@DRich you got some weird tastes in pizza
 
!!pizza 1500 5
 
at this point you're eating spagetty
 
@RaduStefanPopescu What? You didn't like my pizza pie?
 
1:29 PM
lol the first time eclipse gives me a warning telling me: Dead Code :D
 
@RaduStefanPopescu But different tase in different areas :)
 
printscreen pls
I load table in JavaFx
bam 2gigabytes of ram gone
 
printscreen of the dead code warning @RaduStefanPopescu? :D
 
@motaa yes
 
1:31 PM
Half of my memory >.>
 
!!pizza 1920 1200
 
mmmh
 
the txt csv file takes 30Mbytes
at least it loads blazing fast
gets processor to 90% usage :P
 
1:33 PM
G'day @wonderb0lt
@RaduStefanPopescu :O
 
I was just refactoring my code and this came up :D
 
why is it dead though?
Try saving the file.
 
it died
 
press F
to pay respects
 
1:35 PM
timer can never be null at that stage
 
Got a clown for breakfast @wonderb0lt ? :D
 
because a few lines earlier I instantiate it if it is null
 
@motaa Oh yeah did not see that one line there ^^
 
clever the java compiler :D
 
1:37 PM
oh shit
if i close the table
and reopen it then it loads instantly
 
MAGIC
 
maybe i should wait a bit more for GC to do its stuff
but still
wtf!!!
wait... does it not get GC'd :O why
 
You do not close it? o-o
 
2:04 PM
oh, no. It's actually fine
it's PS old gen
problem is if i load the same table twice the application becomes unresponsive
when i need to reload the same table it clears that old gen thing and gets filled with actual useful stuff
 
o/ @ballBreaker
 
hey @ballBreaker
 
@ballBreaker how many balls have you broken?
 
hey!
@DRich hard to say really
Too many to count
 
2:20 PM
so what to do?
 
sounds like millions
also, given your name, I find your avatar unsettling
 
;)
My nemesis:
Also suitable as a ballbreaker ..
 
That is some S&M shit
 
223355 * 92 fields in a table
2gb used
crashes
or rather goes unresponsive
 
@DRich Don't inform my girlfriend of this tool plz
 
2:25 PM
@ballBreaker Wasn't planning on it, but okay
 
lmao
 
@RaduStefanPopescu That's 20,548,660 fields
 
You're trying to render all of those? Are you trying to build Excel?
 
All of them get rendered yes
or rather, the structure behind them is instantiated, and they get rendered by replacing values
in the cells
 
2:29 PM
What's the data type in these cells?
 
Dates, blobs, floats
strings
 
You're loading this table from a db?
or are you generating it... ?
 
from a legacy dbfile
 
And the dbfile is also 2gb...
 
loading the same dbfile twice
no the dbfile is 30 MBytes in csv
100MBytes otherwise
 
2:30 PM
ah
 
but since i noticed this problem
i want to know how to deal with it
 
So your question is, how is 30 MB turning into 2 GB?
 
no, not really. 1 why is it not GC'd when i close the table
2. how do i deal with situations in which i want users to open n tables with m data in them
 
well how is a larva turning into a butterfly
you might ask aswell
 
@Hans1984 They actually literally turn to liquid and then rebuild
 
2:33 PM
lmao
 
like srsly... you open 20 tabs of chrome
millions of nodes
you know, dom elements
do i really have to create a memory management policy in java?
serialize/deserialize on demand or sth?
 
you should just scrap the entire project and start over
 
start over with a different project
 
Yeah
Garbage collect that project
 
2:37 PM
lel after 6 weeks I got a response from the people that are supposed to test my program (because they want to use it and check if everything is fine)
They wrote that they had no time yet xD
Because they had to type this mail for 6 weeks :>
 
if (project.stuck == true)
   System.gc();
 
\o/ @Gemtastic
 
wow real helpful :(
 
have you tried "forcing" a GC after you close the table?
This was my way of helping you, in a non-productive way
 
Man I cannot help at all. I am just a little student guy that hammers on his keyboard a lot and up to this point had luck that something came out that did not produce too many errors
anyways gotta do stuff for college :/
Good luck@RaduStefanPopescu
And bye peeps o/
 
2:40 PM
@geisterfurz007 good luck, have a nice day bye
 
ciao
 
o/@geisterfurz007
o/
 
\o
 
@ballBreaker I don't really understand java memory mgmt
running System.gc() doesn't do much, it's not a problem when i close the table and reopen it, it's a problem that i'm not sure that i have a memory leak or not
 
Morning, Java!
 
2:43 PM
@Michael Welcome back!
 
now thats a good slave bot
greeting his master
 
it's also a problem that if i open same table twice java will practically get out of memory and the two worker threads that allocate data will fight for resources and fill the CPU or sth
 
hey@Michael
 
I expect nothing less. xD
 
Morning, Java!
 
2:45 PM
yep
 
Hi @Hans
 
@RaduStefanPopescu It sounds like you're trying to do too much at once lol
 
@ballBreaker yes, but what if the user decides to open 1203710240123 tabs
i must ensure the liveliness of my application
and i'm not sure if i have any memory leaks or not
i reference stuff from lambdas but i don't really store them anywhere other than in the visual nodes of JavaFX
 
on google, if the user opens that many tabs, it will crash
same with excel
or any program that allows that kind of behaviour
It's better to crash your application than their computer :P
 
so can you check out my code
?
see if i make any bad memory stuff
?
 
2:52 PM
 
it's 200 lines of code
if you abstract away some of the useless stuff
like I/O
 
nope
I don't have time, sorry
 
3:28 PM
leaving
bye o/
 
3:45 PM
cya @hans
 
 
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5:57 PM
"Garbage Collection is like your mom going around cleaning up after you. "Oh, you left some memory on the floor honey. I'll pick it up for you." C respects you, and treats you like an adult, unlike Java." - My C professor
4
 
Your professor has some deep rooted issues
 
@ballBreaker He makes fun of Java almost every single class. He's hilarious, and has no problem roasting people during class or on Piazza
Plus he knows his shit, and is humble enough to admit when he doesn't know something.
 
Nah, I think he's psychologically disturbed, don't let your opinion cloud your logic
lmao ;)
 
@ballBreaker lmfao we were talking about dynamic memory during lecture, specifically freeing memory, and someone mentioned garbage collection.
 
6:26 PM
@Ungeheuer hahaha yeah, I was just being a dick, he sounds like a cool guy haha
 
7:09 PM
@Ungeheuer need downstar button 1/10
8 messages moved to bin
 
 
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11:29 PM
@Unihedron I think I like C better than Java, but I hate how code output might vary across machines. At least Java has one compiler.
Im gonna say that garbage collection thing in the C room
What happened to fge?
 
Driving his Tesla, probably. xD
 
I can't even imagine how much property tax he pays on that in People's Republic of France
@Unihedron I probably like it more because of how he teaches it. He goes very in depth. My java prof. didn't teach java as in depth as he did, and I'm pretty sure she spent all of 0 minutes in industry.
 
C is much more low-level. You spend more time on low-level tasks like memory management and less time on program logic. :P
Rust is aiming to replace C is the defacto low-level language.
If you think C is hard, try Rust...
 

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