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2:58 AM
On the candidates stats what do the counts mean. Like questions: 14 / +139
 
@ThinkingStiff Hold your mouse cursor over them, and you should get a little pop-up tip telling you what they mean.
(count / score, AFAIK)
SE luuuurrrvs to hide information in title tips ;-)
 
@Shog9 Ah! It's for Meta. That's what was confusing me. The numbers weren't matching up. Thanks!
 
np
 
3:52 AM
Huh, I can vote for myself in the election.
Totally doing that!
 
 
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6:54 AM
All the Best waiting for Result
@All..>!!
 
7:09 AM
hi.. i dont how to vote..if anybody is there to explain
 
user50049
7:44 AM
room topic changed to 2012 Stack Overflow Moderator Election: discussions on stackoverflow.com/election Please keep conversation related to the election. (no tags)
 
8:57 AM
@TimPost hey
 
9:18 AM
Your vote is really important and do read which moderator you are choosing..
 
10:08 AM
@PrinceAntonyG you need 150 rep to vote, looking at your account it seems you're not quite there yet
 
@PrinceAntonyG You still have a few days to get the necessary rep in case you want to vote though. You even get a shiny silver badge for doing so!
 
 
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user50049
4:58 PM
Looks like we're getting a pretty decent turn out initially, even given the weekend.
 
user50049
I find myself wishing for more votes, but my three are now cast.
 
Some statistics on how many people voted would be interesting.
Especially compared to the number of people who voted during the primaries
I mean while the election is still running
 
user50049
I'm pretty sure that's up to date as it's running
 
Umm all I get is "Election closes in 3 days." for the current election.
 
user50049
But yes, I'd love a comparison between voter turn out in the primary next to turn out in the actual election
 
user50049
5:08 PM
@ThiefMaster Wait, that's all you see if you go here ?
 
Yes
 
user50049
@Shog9 Are the election stats mod only or something? ^^^^^^^^
 
@TimPost Until it ends, yeah
 
Ah, and it looks like the stats I asked for were already suggested:
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Q: Total number of voters in the primaries?

DMA57361We can obviously see exactly what votes have been cast in the primaries, but given each user can cast between 0 and [num candidates] votes we can't tell how many users have actually voted so far. I understand from the blog that the full vote list for the final election will be released after the...

 
user50049
I didn't see that. Whoops :)
 
5:51 PM
this election seems to have got a lot more attention in the primaries than the last one, which is presumably either the new badges or 99 notifications all at once
 
user50049
@awoodland Well that and the (short lived) system message sending people to it, and the subsequent color changes in the community bulletin thingamadongdong
 
@TimPost should have done it as a proper randomised trial :)
 
user50049
BTW, to all who made it to the election: If elected, the word thingamadongdong will become an integral part of your vocabulary.
 
As long as it''s not thingonmydong.. :P
 
user50049
I'm really happy with this election. Only three will win, but we do have a knack for pulling from the most recent election when we need even MOAR mods, and we've got one hell of a bullpen. Every single person in the election phase would make an excellent mod (imho)
 
6:34 PM
Just out of curiosity - when taking additional people, are they manually chosen from the remaining candidates or always the ones which would have been elected anyway if there had been n+m instead of n positions available?
 
@ThiefMaster I think it's n+m from the openstv data on previous elections
it'd be hard to justify going much past that
 
user50049
@ThiefMaster The election is re-run and the next runner up is contacted to see if they still want the job. If they do, they get it.
 
user50049
@ThiefMaster However, I'm pretty sure no post election elimination happens.
 
Interesting, I'd have thought that the three winners would also win if there were more slots available.
 
user50049
Don't quote me on this, but it's going to be the last one to be not electable, iterative.
 
user50049
6:51 PM
@ThiefMaster I've spent the better part of the day playing with ballot files and the Meek method. And yes, once found 'electable' all votes beyond making the candidate 'win' are transferred. So changing 3 to 4 slots would just re-run the election with 4 instead of 3 slots available.
 
user50049
So it basically replays the election, adding more slots.
 
user50049
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A: How do I generate .BLT files for OpenSTV elections using C#?

Jeff AtwoodThe best explanation of the BLT file format is here: 4 2 # four candidates are competing for two seats -2 # Bob has withdrawn (optional) 1 4 1 3 2 0 # first ballot 1 2 4 1 3 0 1 1 4 2 3 0 # The first number is the ballot weight (>= 1). 1 1 2 4 3 0 #...

 
user50049
By simply changing the first line from 4 2 to 4 4, you just elected two new mods based on unaltered data from the last election.
 
user50049
What I don't know is at what point SE says "enough, let's just hold a new election"
 
user50049
@ThiefMaster So yes, the three winner still win, and so do (N) more where (N) is the number of more slots. If we elected three, and ended up with five, it's just as if we elected five to begin with.
 
7:02 PM
k
 
user50049
At least as far as my understanding of it goes :) ICBW :)
 
would be quite odd if adding more slots changed the outcome of the whole election
 
user50049
@ThiefMaster It wouldn't with the Meek method. All it would do is iterate more and elect (N) more based on votes transferred once the first (X) reached an elected threshold.
 
user50049
That's the beauty of the Meek method.
 
user50049
@ThiefMaster So we hold the election and we have 3 seats. People vote as they do, ordering their choices. That election can easily be replayed but we introduce 5 seats instead of 3. The single vote is still transferred as the voter wishes.
 
user50049
7:08 PM
So I'm sure the cut off between just pulling runners up and holding a new election is at the point where the transferred votes just decay into 'everyone wins'
 
user50049
(which is also not possible with the Meek method), but I'm still wrapping my head around it fully.
 
user50049
Adding more slots (depending on votes) does influence the electable threshold, but only to the point that it makes more people 'electable'
 
user50049
Still, the election is replayed with more slots.
 
8:01 PM
(I'm still annoyed the referendum on STV in the UK failed so miserably against FPTP)
 
user50049
8:21 PM
I'm working on a way to implement the meek method using only redis (some people like code golf, I like building stuff)
 
10:01 PM
@TimPost Interesting.. :o
 

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