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7:13 AM
morning
 
7:47 AM
Andy K has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
Andy K has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
8:11 AM
Morning @AndyK
 
morning @Shaneis
What do you think of it? ulule.com/le-petit-fablab
 
War
why do I never see any feeds in here?
@Feeds you suck
 
War
oh ok
i shall stfu them
 
hé hé
 
8:20 AM
wow my french is rusty...
nice though, esp mixing the DIY and tech
 
War
im on it today :) ... figured out how to define whole business processes in the db yesterday
 
also this line :)
We reach 8000€ : We will try to buy a unicorn

We reach 10 000€ : We will try to buy two unicorns
@War I'm intrigued, go on....
 
@Shaneis click on the EN on the right side. There is a web page in English
 
War
basically means I can build small pieces of configurable business logic then strap them together in the db as data
the code i've written tracks and audits executions
the processes themselves are nothing more than rows in the db
 
lots of hard work. this is what I've been doing before moving to Poitiers
 
8:22 AM
@War I repeat, intrigued cough StackBlog! cough
 
@vaultah you're almost like a ghost with that identicon camouflage
;)
 
War
well I'm doing some pretty insane stuff ... using the model to generate EF db contexts and emit service layers
then i can compile and deploy the web stacks
planning to bolt together a process editor in a web app that lets us talk through requirements with clients and if need be it can take those diagrams and construct a whole back end for them
drag drop point click ... is that the back end you want?
 
@war you should do a webcast instead of typing
 
War
My back end stack then exposes metadata through the endpoints it builds that I can use to genreate UI and calls back to that back end
it's still a work in progress but it means I can do some insane shit really easily
when i've tidied it up the plan is to sell this as a cloud based service
but it's also doing our in house invoice factoring portal stuff
well pieces at the moment anyway
 
@War so you need to separate that piece...?
 
War
8:28 AM
no ... its already modular and separated
I manually built the db and code stack for that though
but putting the right rows in the db now makes the system think it built that too lol
 
@war I would love to see the technical side of your thing
 
War
i keep threatening to blog about it
the reality is ... until my front end framework gets up and running I just have a bunch of back end stuff
it's been about 2 years since I started building this particular version of my stack
I still have a few magic tricks I need to pull out but soon as I do ... you guys will be the first to know :)
 
@War the back end stuff is interesting too, just saying...
 
War
lol ... I was thinking the other day about doing some sort of diary
like a blog but perhaps just in note form
so when I come to get this stuff all up on ab log I can back fill from my notes
 
8:43 AM
@War as long as the diary is detailed enough you don't go..."back end? I wanted to write about back end?...WHAT PART?"
basically don't let past you be a dick to future you
and with that, I need more coffee
 
War
lol
I was thinking more something like "process model, steps db design and code stack, today it all went up, not perfect but given a little time I can clear this up"
then tommorrow might have a bit more on it
and over say a week i'd get enough to build a reasonably detailed blog article
using that and the resulting code of course
 
@Shaneis what do you think about having @War as a mod in here?
 
War
tumbleweed
 
@AndyK I was going to say "sorry I'm just back from coffee/meeting" but tumbleweed is too good to pass up! :D
I got no problem with it, regular user, helps with questions, good fun
only downside is he won't write a damn blog!!!
 
8:59 AM
ha ha
 
done :)
 
War
thx :)
 
... tumbleweed ...
can we take it back?
 
War
``ban hammer slaps @Shaneis
:p
 
9:00 AM
:D
 
War
stack is crazy place
have you guys read nicks blog?
 
nope.. need to put them in my feedly
reading that
 
he has a blog, he's hilarious on twitter
 
9:27 AM
let me check
 
War

The Web Stack & Architecture

Awesome stuff from the minds of the crazy through careful use ...
feed is working in there now
it needs an actual rss feed not a web page link
 
Andy K has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
I think I found the answer
5
Q: StackOverflow feed on specified tags

csviriIs there a functionality on StackOverflow as subscribing to rss related to specified tags? So a will receive feeds only that has tags i defined?

 
War
nice!!
 
just ok, thanks google
and your insight
 
War
9:36 AM
lol
 
Andy K has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
War
is it going to work !!!! oh the suspense
 
(suspense is so intense, I'm close to shit on myself...)
 
@AndyK :)
 
nope it does not work ...
 
War
9:46 AM
awww
 
@AndyK :(
 
why o why?
there is one thing I dread is when tech doesn't do , what it should do
grrhh (rolling on the floor and having a tantrum like a 1 YO)
 
@AndyK I dread when tech does what it shouldn't...but only occasionally
 
War
lol ... hmmm
 
@Shaneis this is even worse ... when that happens, I have the T_T button
 
Andy K has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
feed is feed, no?
 
War
no ... looks like the SO blog is rss your feed is not quite
it's something else
 
War has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
War
awww .. do people never ask sql questions lol
ima go ask one just trigger the feed update
hmmm ... well thats depressing
the feed has updated
ouch ... rep hit!!
 
10:04 AM
@War did you see something?
 
War
nope :(
I got this working with the SO blog in the architecture channel
I don't think it likes the format of feeds
bug maybe?
 
@AndyK: From what I can tell, that feed should be fine.
<updated>2016-09-27T10:09:56Z</updated>
 
hey @Cerbrus then why nothing is appearing then...?
we've been banging our head on that stuff
 
I've updated my meta answer ;-)
 
War
I've setup a feed from the SO blog here ...

The Web Stack & Architecture

Awesome stuff from the minds of the crazy through careful use ...
that's working fine
but that's got a different tag structure
the root for example is <rss ...
for a question feed it appears to be <feed ...
 
10:18 AM
@Cerbrus so we just need to be patient then...
 
The tag feed has an updated tag
 
ok...
 
Looks like it
Check back in an hour, I'd say
 
will do
how can you see the updated tag btw @Cerbrus?
 
War
its in the markup
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:creativeCommons="http://backend.userland.com/creativeCommonsRssModule" xmlns:re="http://purl.org/atompub/rank/1.0">
    <title type="text">Newest questions tagged sql - Stack Overflow</title>
    <link rel="self" href="http://stackoverflow.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=sql&amp;sort=newest" type="application/atom+xml" />
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/?tagnames=sql&amp;sort=newest" type="text/html" />
    <subtitle>most recent 30 from stackoverflow.com</subtitle>
 
10:19 AM
It's one of the first tags
 
War
^^ see?
 
wait O-O
 
hm?
 
oh yeah
thanks
 
War
:)
 
10:22 AM
learnt a new stuff today
 
War
I hate merging branches :(
 
giiiiiittttt
 
War
tfs
funny thing ... my web stack uses webAPI and OData ... we use visualstudioonline (ms hosted tfs) which exposes api's that use the same tech
so my dynamic process builder can check in the code it generates to tfs
how cool is that!!
 
10:45 AM
indeed
 
War
11:00 AM
I'm debating writing some form of AI
something that can maintain itself
and learn
there is after all a reason they call it a thought "process"
 
 
1 hour later…
12:10 PM
wow
 
I'm going to need a symbol for "blog" here please
It seems like I'll be using it a lot
 
12:30 PM
!!/blog
 
@AndyK That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!/help
 
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!!/listcommands
 
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12:39 PM
!!/deadlydragon
 
@Shaneis A mythical beast!
 
well that was anti-climactic... :(
!!/aliens
 
YES!!!
 
that dude's haircut ... insane
 
12:41 PM
!!/hahano
 
cute
 
War
12:59 PM
!!msdn stream class
 
@War Something went on fire; status 403
 
War
still ... sheesh
!!angryticks
 
!!/ifuckedup
 
War
12:59 PM
!!adhd
 
War
LMAO
 
what was that one? :)
!!/thenightflorianmethiswife
 
in JavaScript, Feb 27 at 15:24, by Florian Margaine
reminds me that on the night I met my wife, we somehow ended up watching 2g1c.
 
WTF!!!
 
War
1:04 PM
!!xkcd
 
War
totally clear
select top few * from Contacts
why doesn't SQL understand this?
 
Florian has been here for so long that he's got a meme...
Trying to create a view
IF OBJECT_ID('dbo.VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT') IS NULL
BEGIN
    CREATE VIEW dbo.VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
    AS
    SELECT Siret,RaisonSociale,Statut,nom,prenom FROM EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
END
ELSE
    ALTER VIEW dbo.VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
    AS
    SELECT Siret,RaisonSociale,Statut,nom,prenom FROM EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
BEGIN
END
when I run it, it says the syntax is incorrect with the word view
But if I run
ALTER VIEW dbo.VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
AS
SELECT Siret,RaisonSociale,Statut,nom,prenom FROM EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
or
CREATE VIEW dbo.VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
AS
SELECT Siret,RaisonSociale,Statut,nom,prenom FROM EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
then it is fine
 
1:19 PM
wow...not sure if that's good or a bad thing to be well known
 
found that
IF EXISTS (SELECT * FROM sysobjects WHERE id = object_id('VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT'))
BEGIN
	DROP VIEW VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
	EXECUTE('CREATE VIEW dbo.VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
    AS
    SELECT Siret,RaisonSociale,Statut,nom,prenom FROM EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT');
END
 
yeah create view has to be the first thing in a batch
nothing before it
EXEC is the only way around
 
War
or do a drop and create
    IF EXISTS(...)
      DROP VIEW ...
  GO

    CREATE VIEW dbo.VUE_EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
        AS
        SELECT Siret,RaisonSociale,Statut,nom,prenom FROM EUDONET_LIASSES_INIT
that's the usual pattern
 
or if you have 2016
DROP IF EXISTS dbo.VUE_...
 
War
ooo that's nice
 
1:23 PM
no 2016 I'm afraid, we are not there yet
but I like the syntax
 
yeah some db has CREATE OR REPLACE but can't remember which one
 
Oracle does
 
that's the one
 
I hate Oracle
it almost ruined my career
luckily
I had a few skills here and there
since that goddamn db, I swear to myself to never ever rely on a vendor
 
@AndyK ???
 
1:31 PM
a few years ago, I had only skills in oracle db
it was after the financial meltdown, was still in England at that time and was looking for a job with Oracle
could not find anything
luckily, I knew html
and email servers
since that day, always have side skills
and never rely on any fucking vendors
could not find anything related to oracle , I mean
it is almost time for me to go on point hunting again
 
War
oracle isn't that common as a db server
tends to only exist in certain industries
 
before there was plenty
 
War
and when it does it's usually for legacy stuff
 
but that's ok
 
War
I found MSSql to be a lot more widely available
 
1:44 PM
I've broaden my skills set
I'm not really fond of the ms stack, to be honest
some of the things, I have low understanding
but to be honest
I close myself to nothing
just in case
 
War
I got in to the MS stack stuff because it was easily accessible .. now i'm seriously loving it because of Microsoft's new found respect for open source
getting in to linux or oracle to me felt a bit like a niche ... something that once you know it you locked in to it ... at least with .Net once I knew .Net I could switch between languages and only really ned to learn a few syntax based tweaks like keywords to get up and running
yeh getting good is much more than that, but at least I had a way out if C# didn't take
 
 
1 hour later…
2:58 PM
1 hour left to my holiday :)
 
where are you going?
 
!!/party
 
Create for a week
 
create?
 
2:59 PM
Hi All
 
Sorry, Crete
 
hey Sami
 
@Sami hey @Sami
 
^^
 
3:11 PM
I've never been to Crete, lucky man
 
@AndyK same, first time. a full week of nothing but eating, drinking, and swimming
:D
 
c'est la vie
 
j'espere
like I said, rusty :)
 
lol c'est la vie
 
i've never been there so I cannot give you advices
on where to go
 
3:15 PM
@AndyK ah no worries, going near a place called Heraklion but I'm basically going to be free-diving the entire time so I'm good
@AndyK cheers though
 
it will be awesome
 
I hope
but means I'll be off here until thursday week
 
we're keeping the room war(m )
 
3:28 PM
@AndyK ha I get it
 
cool
 
4:25 PM
okay I'm off guys
talk to ya in a week
 
4:55 PM
have fun
@Shaneis
 

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