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12:02 AM
@Danack thanks. I've so far avoided any "static/global" & everything is OO (tho it is tempting at times) which is the reason I ended up (wrongly it seems) trying to learn factory patterns - trying to establish a good approach to providing dependencies to classes without instantiating a new dependency class in the class which needs it. Also with nowhere logical to instantiate a dependency class first to pass in as reference when instantiating the class which needs the dependency.
 
TIL: never go to C++ room to ask for help
 
Or ever, except to see the flags.
 
morning o/
 
@James I've been working on similar...... These are still not really ready but you could look at github.com/Danack/Tier which is a thing that allows you to bootstrap and run an application, using almost pure DI. An example site using it is github.com/Danack/Blog/blob/master/src/app.php
> everything is OO
Actually....not everything can be OO - you still need to interact with the outside world and IO is not really good with OO. e.g. just reading a config file is inherently a procedural function. As is reading environment variables - which is fine....not everything has to be OO.
Just everything that you want to be able to unit test.
 
This is the trouble with learning from the net. Some say everything should be oo, some say static is ok now and then, some even say a few things in global scope is fine. This fries my perfectionist brain.
Yeah I'm concentrating on unit test compatible. it seems to be a fair guide that if is testable then probs good (or ok) code.
 
12:34 AM
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1:22 AM
Mornings
 
1:35 AM
@Danack You don't need objects to unit test something.
 
@kelunik You're right, but 'unit testing' something that depends directly on a procedural function like fopen or getenv is not really a unit test but is inherently an integration test.
 
@Danack It's because of I/O, not procedural style, that makes it an integration test.
 
@kelunik I disagree.....for procedural functions you're depending on a particular implementation directly and can't swap it out for a mock/stub version that makes it not unit testable.
And it's okay, because not everything has to be unit-testable - just so long as that stuff is pushed towards the edges of your application.
 
Say I have an app as v1.0.0, and I have a __construct() that I add an optional param to. Do I need to wait until 2.0.0, 1.1.0, or can I apply it to the next 1.0.x release?
 
@crypticツ It's probably a new feature. As long as there's a default value and no BC break, 1.1, otherwise 2.0
 
1:45 AM
@crypticツ 1.1
ninja'd
 
s/pirate code/semver/
If it's an app, rather than a library - who would get upset by the function changing?
 
sorry, meant lib
 
@Danack e.g. a function that extracts some info from a string is pretty much a unit that can be unit tested.
 
So what would the difference be between a x.x format compared to a x.x.x format. Would I still do 1.1?
 
major.minor.bugfix
major is BC break
minor is new features
bugfix is bug fixs
 
1:50 AM
@kelunik Yes, but for something that depends on that function, you can't test the case that the function throws an exception, without setting up the data in a particular way so that an exception is thrown. With OO stuff, you don't need to twiddle with data - you can just create a class that behaves exactly as you want for the unit test:
interface FileUploader{
    public function upload($filename);
}
class AlwaysThrows implements FileUploader{
    public function upload($filename) {
        throw new \FileUploadException('blah blah');
    }
}
 
thanks!
 
@Danack Again, that's I/O related, so an integration test.
 
ok, same thing - but not io related:
interface StringMatcher {
    public function match($someString);
}
class AlwaysThrowsStringMatcher implements StringMatcher{
    public function match($someString) {
        throw new \StringMatcherException('not found.');
    }
}
To do the same when something is just using a procedural function, you need to set up the data in a particular way to get the desired behaviour for that test. You can't just set the desired behaviour directly.
 
@Danack What's the thing you really test there? I'd just setup the data to make sure it really fails in that case as desired. Just setting the behavior doesn't really test the thing you want to test, does it?
 
@kelunik No, it's for using in a test for the thing that depends on StringMatcher. e.g. if that thing is meant to catch the StringMatcherException and convert it to a more specific exception, then to test that, you'd setup the AlwaysThrowsStringMatcher as the StringMatcher to be injected.
"I'd just setup the data to make sure it really fails in that case as desired." - which you can do....but that's an integration test, not a unit test.
 
2:26 AM
Hi there.
Adding a password requirement such as "minimal 8 characters, 1 cap character and 1 numeric" would that decrease a password it's security?
Requiring a minimum of a capital and 1 numeric character would increase the possibilities of a password phrase but not ...
 
not sure what you mean
the only thing password requirements stop is people using stupid passwords
e.g. 1234 and password
 
if you ask me, it's not bad...
 
but 1 cap and 1 number people just start making passwords like Password1
 
that's a good question for @ircmaxell
 
your best bet for password security is storing them in the database salted and hased useing something like bcrypt
and using throttling to prevent brute force attacks
 
2:31 AM
password_hash and password_verify are your friends..
and use a different salt per password.
 
that too
password_hash does that by default though
 
I don't know what guidelines would be the best policy for password creation
 
This is non hashing related
 
password requirements dont change much
 
Well it does increase the size of possibilities being made...
 
2:36 AM
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Q: Do password complexity requirements reduce security by limiting search space?

landon9720I've read that password complexity requirements make passwords easier to guess via brute force attack. The reason for this is that the complexity requirement actually reduce the search space for brute force guessing by eliminating possible passwords. I would take this idea further by suggesting t...

 
I had more likely in mind requiring atleast 1 cap and 1 numeric would change from atleast 26^8 possibilities to ((26*2)+10)^8
by default.
which is being said in the second part of that posts.
 
no because people can put Caps and numb3s in there passwords anyway
 
Yes but we both know, not requiring it will end up most people not doing it.
so for most people it would end up like 26^8
for smart users, it won't change a thing...
 
I think limiting to 8 characters would be a bad thing.
 
We are talking about minimum requirements.
not limitations.
A minimum of 8 chars with minimal 1 upper case and 1 numeric.
 
2:41 AM
like i said if someones password is normaly 'password' they will probably just change it to 'Password1' and a dictoanry attack is just as likly to try that
 
so in reality that huge ass number (((26*2)+10)^8) represents the worst case... the case where the user is conforming to the minimum requirement
 
That calculation would be the maximum possibilities by default requiring the a cap + numeric
 
if this is ever an issue it is because your database has been leaked and you are basicly f**ked anyway
 
It's just something I seen on a forum and someone and I have a discussion about this, yet both have good points to state it.
So I came to the more experienced once to discuss it xD
I agree with you on that Thomas, if it's an issue....
 
the best way to deal with passwords is
to just use oauth and not deal with passwords
 
2:48 AM
That is for a user conforming to the worst case..... the attacker can't be aware if the user is using an 8 character or 9 character or 46 character password.
 
@Orangepill yeah but they will try every* 8 char password possible before moving to 9 char ones
and i would bet money that a large percent just use the minimum
 
most people would
 
also have a look at this
https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm
 
@MikeM. there is a lot (like a lot) of relevant reading on the security stackexchange site. I strongly recommend going through it rather than relying on something you saw on a random forum and a chat-room conversation.
 
I will go through each link tomorrow as it's 5AM and too tired too save a bunch of information :P
 
2:54 AM
fair enough
good ... morning I guess
 
I know I am by no means a expert.
 
yeah nither am I
wish I was, it looks like a fun thing to study
 
interesting yes... fun I'm not so sure about.
 
Security is indeed a very interesting topic.
 
@ThomasAlbrighton, take a look :
http://www.sitepoint.com/risks-challenges-password-hashing/?gp
 
3:01 AM
@MikeM. @ThomasAlbrighton This might be worth a peek at youtube.com/watch?v=GfyM8lFkjo8
 
awesome thanks guys
i'll look them up over the weekend
at work at the moment
 
5 AM for me :P
Friday is really a free day for me this week :P
 
3:20 AM
Hi guy, I try to use php exec("pdflatex -output-directory mylatex.tex", $error)
can't get any pdf from php exec(), but I can't run the php code on command line and work fine, any help would be appreciated
 
use the full path to pdflatex
 
Thanks for the quick response, I can get .aux and .log files, but not the .pdf file,
 
this might be helpful
 
4:02 AM
moin
 
mornin
 
morning
 
4:22 AM
it might be because really early ...
but I can't make sense of all of this question
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Q: PHP pthreads - shared objects

cotttonIm searching a safe and fast way to use a shared object. I asked the question already here: https://github.com/krakjoe/pthreads/issues/470 but obviuously this wasnt the right place. Trying to share an object (Threaded) with many other contextes (Thread). All threads are updating this shard obje...

I have no idea what that code does, or what he wants it to do ... can anyone translate ?
 
4:44 AM
@j
@JoeWatkins strange question
 
I've had a whole cup of tea now and still don't understand it ...
 
@JoeWatkins It's almost like he doesn't understand that he can just modify the data inside the callback passed to synchronized(), and that he thinks he needs to write methods to lock and unlock using synchronized().
 
Does his argument make sense with the way the pthreads previously worked? He might be trying to make a adapter for code that relied on the old api?
sorry I haven't played around with pthreads at all.
 
so the synchronized/lock/unlock bit is probably a misunderstanding, but what does this mean
> Trying to share an object (Threaded) with many other contextes (Thread). All threads are updating this shard object -- they can set own requests and have to respond to requests from others also.
I looked at the code on the github issue and I dunno what it does
 
i have a strange problem with apache2
<VirtualHost 192.168.2.100:80>
dosent work but
<VirtualHost *:80> works
 
4:55 AM
haven't configured apache in years, can't remember how it works ...
 
idk whats the problem is
i spend 2 hours on this problem and found no solution
 
@Stricted request isn't coming in on 192.168.2.100 then... possibly via ip6 or an alternate interface (like localhost)
 
no its exactly this ip
that was my first idea
 
@stricted you are navigating to it via that ip address i.e. http://192.168.2.100/
 
nope
 
4:58 AM
what are you Listening on ?
 
<VirtualHost 192.168.2.100:80>
ServerName home.stricted.de
ServerAlias www.home.stricted.de
ServerAdmin info@stricted.de
DocumentRoot "/var/customers/webs/stricted/forum/wbb/"
Alias /webalizer "/var/customers/webs/stricted/webalizer"
ErrorLog "/var/customers/logs/stricted-error.log"
CustomLog "/var/customers/logs/stricted-access.log" combined
</VirtualHost>
 
yeah but what does Listen line say ?
 
must be at least 80 or *:80 wouldn't work... I would think
 
if it doesn't work, you're not listening on that address/port ...
 
wait, i will check that
 
5:00 AM
I'm stabbing in the dark, haven't done any of this for years ... but I'd start there ...
 
I think home.stricted.de is resolving to an alternate address or using an alternate protocol. In your *:80 case try echoing out $_SERVER['SERVER_ADDR'];
 
@JoeWatkins Yeah... now I've stared at it for a while and also have no idea what he's trying to accomplish with that code...
 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't understand it ... this is like the fourth day I looked at it ...
 
maybe tea is the wrong thing to drink to get into his frame of mind :)
 
:D haha
 
5:07 AM
you do preparation before you do something, what's the word for the stuff you do after the thing ?
 
cleanup?
 
lol
@Orangepill yeah i think its a wrong ip
its behind nat (above was only a example)
[SERVER_ADDR] => 172.31.1.100
stupid
i going to hate vservers
 
@Stricted did echoing $_SERVER['SERVER_ADDR'] help in this case ... I pulled that one out of my ass.
 
@LeviMorrison Yes, autoload at type-check time is not an issue. It's more about autoload at binding-time
 
@Orangepill :D
 
5:52 AM
is Choosing Codeigniter a right choice
 
@ArunKarnawat Likely not
 
i want a somple framework that have a strong core, i dont need too many inbuild lib., but should have very high Performance framework. which framwork would you propose ?
 
@ArunKarnawat may be yes if client pays good :)
@ArunKarnawat php
 
5:56 AM
you mean the core PHP ?
@nu
@NullPoiиteя its my own project
 
btw symfony is nice .... most of people here hate laravel but it has some nice features too
morning
 
now i swear to never work on CI
morning @NullPoiиteя
 
i see no reason to not work with CI its like running away rather than facing bad things
 
i am not running away but majority here do not prefer it so i think to drop it after my completion of project
 
i handle work in different framework and add new features in existing code which sucks but kinda interesting
 
6:00 AM
there's something really satisfying when code finally looks like it does in your head ...
 
you change core files of framework @NullPoiиteя
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshi noop it makes harder to upgrade framework
 
@NikiC good catch, thanks ;)
 
hi everyone
 
morning
 
6:07 AM
how's it going?
 
moin scott
 
I finished that PHP+libsodium ebook, and then libsodium 1.0.0 came out, and now I don't know what to do with my time
 
@AnmolRaghuvanshi why do you hate CI ?
 
(aside from job hunting, which is an effort best described as soul-crushingly unsuccessful)
 
@Orangepill morning o/
 
6:11 AM
@NullPoiиteя Morning
 
i don't hate i am currently working on it but majority people against it because some bad code practices etc @ArunKarnawat
github.com/PatrickLouys/no-framework-tutorial and silex framework is more appropriate @ArunKarnawat
 
Good morning
 
morning
 
diff --git a/src/store.c b/src/store.c
index 2fa88af..01c250f 100644
--- a/src/store.c
+++ b/src/store.c
@@ -482,8 +482,7 @@ static int pthreads_store_convert(pthreads_storage *storage, zval *pzval){
                        zend_function *closure = pthreads_copy_function((zend_function*) storage->da

                        zend_create_closure(pzval, closure, EG(scope), closure->common.scope, NULL);
-                       closure = (zend_function*) zend_get_closure_method_def(pzval);
-                       name_len = spprintf(&name, 0, "Closure@%p", closure);
@JoeWatkins ^-- That make sense?
You were inserting the zf of the closure, which is destroyed before the function table is destroyed
 
I'm looking for remote opportunities. Skilled with security engineering and PHP development. Interested? Feel free to DM me (it's open).
 
6:25 AM
@NikiC committed, thanks
you can commit to the repo, please [*100] do :)
 
@JoeWatkins A general point: e*alloc is infallible
So no need to check for return values ^^
 
yeah, in the past, I've switched off the allocator for debugging because easier to trace stuff sometimes, other times the std allocator will crash but zend mm won't ... it is inconsistent ....
 
Also, does reading the size of the stack really require a lock?
 
I'll do something about that ...
@NikiC technically not always, on some platforms the operation will be atomic (I hesitate to say most platforms), but the safest thing to do is assume that you do need it, it creates predictable/portable behaviour ..
 
@JoeWatkins You mean because it might use two word fetches rather than a dword fetch?
 
6:33 AM
yes
 
k, makes sense
 
Has the first link been made yet?
 
6:48 AM
fixed alloc thing @NikiC
 
6:58 AM
hello to everyone.I am new in PHP and I want to add product automatically in opencart.I want to know how I can access to form and fill them by curl in php (form of product)
 
@JoeWatkins The stack is supposed to be shared between Worker instances in different thread?
 
yes
destination->stack = source->stack;
pthreads_connect
 
Is there any suggest??
 
posted on September 04, 2015 by nlecointre

/* by Kyuubi */

 
the first object CalculateTheMeaningOfLife is executed, so they have the correct address at the start @NikiC
 
7:17 AM
 
moin
 
morning champs!
 
morning
 
7:32 AM
It's not morning in our area! ^_^
 
its always UGT Morning
 
Hi, I have a wordpress site hosted on internal server, and the service desk is saying that database size is increasing unexpectedly because of table wp_options. It has something to do with option_name column 'cron'. Anyone has any idea about this here? Thanks in advance.
 
I feel a bit like I made a RFC I really don't want to change… and then they're proposing (stupid?) amendements. IMHO the only arguable one is to always force parens around param list… Also, I feel like I need to explain why multi-stmt short closures are useful (mainly that $left ~> function ($right) use ($left) { ... } instead of $left ~> $right ~> { ... } is a bit stupid). … Anyone agreeing here? @LeviMorrison @ircmaxell ?
 
7:47 AM
@bwoebi I think I'd be more +1 on your short closures RFC if parentheses were enforced on parameter lists. I don't agree with having the expression-only syntax, and I don't agree with making ~> non-associative.
 
@bwoebi that's exactly how I see it. I guess not responding is the best option so far. Let their imaginations play
 
@bwoebi enforced parentheses looks stupid...
 
Making ~> non-associative is a really silly idea
 
Abe
3v4l.org/1bYJv i'm getting full retard with this code
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@nikita2206 totally…
@FlorianMargaine I'm not sure. I like it the way it is currently, but I can live with them enforced too
It's something we can discuss IMHO. I do not intend, but it's the complaint I hear most often.
 
7:59 AM
My co-workers just put ocrami.us on the large "supposed-to-be-used-for-build-status" screen =___=
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@ScottArciszewski do you know the author of that extension personally ?
 
@Ocramius so, rebecca black is not a room 11 only phenomenon?
 
Laravel component in PHP core - Is this guy for real?
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I knew what it was gonna be but still clicked...
 
You know the rules... ;-)
 
8:07 AM
@bwoebi yah, it's spreading:
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Just going to say, that short closures thing is absolutely awful, it just looks shit
 
@Ocramius is it playing... uhh... on repeat?
 
@Jimbo just one question… serious or sarcasm?
 
@bwoebi Serious, don't get me wrong, technically to some it might be nice, but I just think the syntax looks awful and looks like it's been written by a JS dev
That's just my opinion though :-)
 
@Jimbo I'm sure in JS it'd look worse :-P
 
8:15 AM
Haha, it would be much worse
 
To me it looks more C#ish because it's the first language I saw that used this construction (Ecma started using it not so long ago)
 
@nikita2206 Not C# inspired … Haskell was more of an inspiration… (even when I write no Haskell… but I liked it there…)
 
@nikita2206 apparently
I got noise canceling ear-phones btw
 
8:45 AM
.@jetbrains are changing the @phpstorm payment model. It seems like you'll have to pay a SUBSCRIPTION to use the IDE. Are they serious? #php
 
Anonymous
monin o/
 
@Jimbo I don't see a problem with that? If their business model would be more profitable like that, what's the problem?
 
@Ocramius A lot of devs are really unhappy with the move, myself included. I'm trying to avoid this generation's 'rent everything, never own anything' scheme. The idea the the update was optional was great
 
@Ocramius Doesn't that mean that you'd have to start paying for something you already own?
 
@Cerbrus not for already owned ones
 
8:59 AM
Newer versions?
 
But yeah, I get the problem @Jimbo has, I just don't see how JetBrains can sustain market saturation otherwise :P
 
Are they not doing a good enough job already? They're getting loads of devs onboard, everyone likes it, they're making a profit so far...
 
I've been kinda used to subscription model anyway, since I pay yearly
@Jimbo you gotta see a bit further than the next 12 months
 
9:13 AM
@bwoebi so I think two of the ideas have some merrit. First, the idea of limiting it to a single expression is interesting. The second to always require parenthesis has merrit as well. But it is 100% up to you what you want to do. You are making the patch and the rfc. Hence it is your choice.
 
Abe
@Jimbo isn't like that already?
 
And I will back whichever choice you want to make.
 
Abe
after a couple of years the ide would be plain old anyway...
 
@Abe Nope, it's all optional. You can buy a version then use it for years, just without non-security updates after the first year
Developers don't like being forced into things
 
Abe
if that helps making it better, though...
 
9:20 AM
Highly doubt it, they'll just keep going forward as they always have, having not fixed bugs like ones in the underlying SSH and SFTP implementation (it's single threaded) since 2011
 
@Jimbo isn't php storm just awesome
/me continue to use Atom
 
Good morning to all
 
Anonymous
@Overnet \o
 
I have a problem with a bookmark system that I'm trying to do.
Anyone want help me ?
 
@Abe This is brilliantly articulated:
> However, to me, there’s a huge difference in mindset under the new model.

Under the current model, I feel like I’m buying a great product for a good price, and I’m a fan. Because of this, I’m happy to upgrade every year.

Under the new model, even if I’m paying the same annual amount, the terms of the relationship have changed. There’s an unavoidable risk or threat in the purchase. I upgrade, not because I want to, but because I have no choice. It’s hard to feel like a fan in those circumstances. I’m less likely to categorically recommend JetBrains to others; I’m less likely to stick wit
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9:33 AM
where's the risk ?
 
I believe he's referring to the fact that it dials home in order to ascertain whether or not you have a valid license, and that being stuck without internetz or somewhere in China would be a significant issue. There's probably other risks but that's what I gathered
 
oh, Overnet just earn to be in ignore-list (random invites to private are not welcome)
 
Abe
apparently he invited everyone everywhere
 
Anyon got some time to look at this: http://imgur.com/9naDpWC the code creating this is: $L = strlen($Value);
echo pack("ssssss", 0x204, 8 + $L, $Row, $Col, 0x0, $L);
echo $Value;
Dirty chars are getting added
 
@Jimbo it must do the same now, perhaps not with the same regularity ?
 
9:39 AM
@JoeWatkins Not sure tbh, but I agree with his explanation of how the relationship has changed, do you not agree?
 
not really, if it has changed, it's changed to benefit the consumer ... if your telecommunications provider asked you for 12 months fees in advance, you'd think that pretty strange, right ? by stemming the flow of revenue to the company you are putting much more pressure on them to spend more effectively surely ... there are positive things to be said about it ...
they'll have to be much more careful not to make mistakes, if they put everyone off with some release, they loose revenue and feel the effects of that immediately, rather than having time to recover/revert the decision, like they do now ...
if something better comes along tomorrow, and it might, you don't have to worry about wasting money on the rest of your subscription, you can jump ship straight away with more or less zero wastage ...
people don't like change ...
 
Hello has anyone had experience with PhantomJs? when i run this i get the following error:
PhantomJS: sh: /Users/matts/sites/healthwatch-informatics-2/vendor/antking/phantom-pdf/src/../b‌​in/phantomjs: cannot execute binary file
 
the only downside is that you can't keep using old versions ... but if you're a paying customer today, and you always upgrade then what's the fuss about ?? I'd be sympathetic to the view that it's negative if I could see the risk, I don't ...
 
@JoeWatkins How does being twice as expensive benefit the customer?
 
9:53 AM
> Old model:

Renewing your license is optional, you can continue to use the old version indefinitely if you desire
$99 initial cost, $49 for each year after that

New model:

Upgrading is mandatory
$99 per year (for new users)
$49 per year (for existing users)

Benefits to the consumer:

None
looks same, is that wrong ?
 
@JoeWatkins Upgrading is now 100 bucks instead of 50
 
only for the first year ?
oh, well I thought the price was the same, I must misunderstand ...
 
Wait
I think I misunderstood
It's not clear to me whether they mean existing users as in people on the old model or as in people who already have a subscription that can also be a new one
 
Changes is how it's presented, that relationship dynamic has changed. Not being picky, I really think there's a difference even if the numbers match up
 
I'm not sure either ...
 
9:58 AM
In that case, I don't mind much
It's not like I'm paying for this anyway :P
 
10:22 AM
where do you guys see the new prices?
looks still the same to me
nevermind I found it
benefit to the customer: he knows that he'll need to pay a yearly fee whereas before he had a lifetime license of PHPStorm Version X which only gets new features for a year
 
@Ocramius why this comment got 4 star ?
 
ThW
@MarcelBurkhard Where is the benefit? You could expect for the renewal/upgrade just fine.
 
@ThW it's not a real benefit
but it might be better, subjectively
not for me anyway, I was just saying..
 
11:23 AM
-2
Q: Communication between PHP and C#

davv34I'm building a website where people can pay for my service, on the backend i had the idea that the PHP website talks to the C# program in order to tell it that someone requested the service to be done. Then my C# program send data every 20 seconds to my website so the homepage can display the go...

 
Newbie here, why is that question getting downvoted so much?
 
11:42 AM
@NikiC
 
@Cosmin Because it's 1. Too broad, 2. Opinion based 3. wants us to do the work.
 
why doesn't std_read_property use rv ?
I'm not supposed too, am I ?
 
@Epodax Thanks for the straightforward answer :D
 
@JoeWatkins It does if __get is used
 
doh
 
11:44 AM
If you have some __get-like functionality, then you are supposed to use it :)
 
but only while getting ?
when reading from another table, I shouldn't use it, right ?
it would be okay to lookup property info, get offset and use object->properties for rv otherwise, right ?
 
Yes
 
I think is my error
 
you have a link to look at?
 
could I use default_properties_table ?
I can't use object.properties, it's an ht, right ?
ah properties_table
 
11:52 AM
 
yeah it is now ...
I wanted a different structure for store, it's bad, but got stumped by this bug
(can just use normal hashtable now)
 
@JoeWatkins Why are you calling __get first?
 
@JoeWatkins It first checks whether a normal property exists
 
zend_get_property_offset is inline :(
 
11:56 AM
@JoeWatkins Anyway, in that case I think using rv rather than returning directly is right
 
oh wait I don't need that anyway, I don't think ..
 

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