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12:52 AM
bye guys!
 
1:16 AM
is this off-topic? i think it is for serverfault.. stackoverflow.com/questions/18867319/…
 
1:30 AM
I got serial up-voted and the system didn't reverse the votes
today was a good day :)
 
2:22 AM
@Leri Sorry for the late reply but sure... use the request class, note I have yet to use it anywhere to it is largely untested.
<?php

namespace Vagabond\Http;

class Request{
    private $url;
    private $method;
    private $sources = [];

    public function __construct($url, $method, $sourceProvider = null){
        $this->url = $url;
        $this->method = $method;

        if ($sourceProvider) {
            $this->registerSources(is_array($sourceProvider)?$sourceProvider:$sourceProvider());
        }
    }

    public function registerSources(array $sources){
        foreach($sources as $name=>$source){
            $this->setParameterSource($name, $source);
Also know consensus in the room is that that static factory method is a bad idea so you might want to take that into consideration with your implementation.
 
 
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3:41 AM
anybody knows how to enable/disable popup on a domain with javascript/php
 
you mean like block popups on your browser? Get a popup blocker
 
@Orangepill no, i want to popup but browsers blocks my popups and ask for permission to allow/block. I want to allow popup without asking on every browser
 
@Burhan how are you displaying the popup?
 
@Orangepill in new window, window.open()
 
3:57 AM
@Burhan this might help you out
 
Question: How can I make money from a program that I made for windows/mac? Where would be a good place to distribute it?
 
4:51 AM
Hello .
I have an understanding problem in the following statement .
    $this->load->model('m_login','login',TRUE);
Can you plz help me to understand this ?
 
Where does this code appear?
CI Controller?
I think it will create an instance of your m_login model class and assign it to the login property of your controller.... allowing you to call methods on the model from your controller like $this->login->methodName();
 
5:07 AM
Isnt it be $this->m_login->login(); ?
 
5:29 AM
Maybe, I've never used CI but from what I understand the second parameter indicates the controller property that will accept an instance of the model.
 
5:51 AM
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Q: Fetching clientside HTML Table data to server side PHP script on form submission

D4RK_PA5SENGERI've an html form with multiple elements. Now, in particular to which I want your attention are two dropboxes and beside that an "add" button.so, once the user makes selection from the dropdown and presses the "add" button, it'll add the data to a table and that table will show up just below thos...

 
6:12 AM
@Orangepill didnt work
Is there a way to enable popup in every browser:
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Q: Is there a way to enable popup in every browser

BurhanI am creating a script which generates popups. But most of the browsers blocks popups by default. I want to open popup on my domain without blocking popups. var pop = window.open('about:blank', 'new_window_123', 'height=150,width=150'); // Detect pop blocker setTimeout(function() { if(!pop || ...

 
@Burhan no way (I have noScript installed into my FF and I'm happy to get rid of such kind of annoying ads or whatever. I'm sure anyone who's installing noScript or similar is doing that because of such issues as yours)
 
@AlmaDoMundo i am not working on ads i am creating frs like farecompare.com u can see in farecompare there result comes in popups without blocking
 
no matter of reasons the answer is no since noScript is blocking entire js - and so nothing can be done in js level to prevent this
 
6:30 AM
echo ("Hello PHP Chat!!!");
 
hello
good morning
namasthe
adaab
assalam vallekum
 
@Orangepill Sorry for latened response also. Thanks. More likely, I'll need slight modifications. :) And it was me complaining about static factory in that class. :D
Morning, btw.
 
mooooooooooorning
 
moin
 
7:03 AM
hi, @JoeWatkins @Leri @Ocramius
 
hi, @multiping (that's less disturbing than pinging everyone who just had greeted…^^)
 
@bwoebi yep, I've read that gist. It's something that requires some advanced knowledge - but it's the best explanation I've ever seen
 
If you ever write $a + ++$a you deserve random outputs on every execution.
 
@Leri yup… what I had once is that the function signature of a method was changed to take the parameter by reference: a($a) + b($a) … and then $a was changed… awww!
 
@CarrieKendall well, I was just on the wrong side of the world for a week :-)
 
7:16 AM
mornin guys
 
hi, @DamienOvereem
by the way - if someone uses $a + ++$a - it's his fault (no matter how good is your language knowledge, those programmers who'll read your code will curse you)
 
@AlmaDoMundo Well, if your knowledge of language and, in general, programming is good, you won't do that because you will understand that evaluation that kind of expressions are internal details of compiler/interpreter that may change without any notice and provide bugs in your application. :)
 
fair enough
 
@Leri well, usually things like that would be noted somewhere though. (In NEWS file)
 
@bwoebi Usually but not necessarily. :) That was my point.
Honestly, I'd love to see undefined behavior so people will stop doing that.
 
7:28 AM
@Leri for those who don't understand what lies behind this on opcodes level it's near undefined :p
 
@Leri introducing undefined behaviour would make defined behaviour slower ;-)
why do people post here six answers… stackoverflow.com/questions/19355070/… oO
 
@AlmaDoMundo And they are people who actually use it. -.-
@bwoebi That's kinda race for +15
 
@Leri that's how it works :p
"it" = real life :\
 
@Leri no… that's also the worst kind of repwhoring…
 
good mornings
 
I love putting crazy stuff (like $a + ++$a ) in code.. I used to be a system administrator before i became a coder.. it brings back the BOFH in me :)
i also like stuff like $b = $a==$b ?: true; style code :)
 
monginging
 
good moaning!
 
hi, @salathe @PeeHaa
 
7:56 AM
@PeeHaa anyway to hide ssh login parameters from the localhost ? i'm cnnecting to remotehost via ssh through php
 
Posted 3 times. But no useful answer to sort this out. Plz help me — user2877903 2 mins ago
 
Morning
 
Plz help me really makes me sick.
 
morning, @Fabien
 
anyway to hide ssh login parameters from the localhost ? i'm connecting to remotehost via ssh through php
 
8:02 AM
what does it mean 'to hide'?
you can't hide credentials from yourself
 
set_include_path(get_include_path() . PATH_SEPARATOR . 'phpseclib');

include('Net/SSH2.php');

$ssh = new Net_SSH2('192.xxx.xxx.xxx');

if (!$ssh->login('xxxr', 'xxx')) {
i mean this application is working in localhost
 
and? it's your script
so you can not hide it from yourself
 
and we will put that app one different location using xampp
 
@samitha You can set environmental variables but I don't think, you really need it
 
So anyone can see the credentials in www root
how that support with security @Leri
if anyone see the user and pass it will a huge problem in this case
 
8:06 AM
@samitha you should be using keys instead of user/pass anyway
 
can we authenticate to the server via only from key setup
 
@samitha Well, you'll have it in apache configuration. How good/bad it is secured depends on server setup. Honestly, I don't see why anybody should be having access to your code.
 
@salathe and so how will that help? :p if script is able to read key, then it's also can be read :p and used
 
@samitha you haven't used ssh much, have you?
 
I'm not sure this could be resolved
 
8:08 AM
not much
 
@AlmaDoMundo it'll hide username and password :P
 
you could also set a host config the an ssh config file, then you can "hide" even the IP address if you really wanted to
 
host config from where?
apache/http.config ?
 
@samitha Up your nose? (I'm not sure what you're asking)
um no, "an ssh config file"
 
8:10 AM
@salathe usual that Hannes doesn't react when he's spoken to in irc?
 
@bwoebi yes, give it 24 hours
 
@salathe I already gave it 44 hours…^^
 
another 24 hours (it was the weekend)
 
@salathe ah yeah… true.
 
@Leri @samitha As i've posted before: You say plz because its shorter then please, I'll say no, because it's shorter then yes.
 
8:14 AM
<?php
$connection = ssh2_connect('shell.example.com', 22, array('hostkey'=>'ssh-rsa'));

if (ssh2_auth_pubkey_file($connection, 'username',
                          '/home/username/.ssh/id_rsa.pub',
                          '/home/username/.ssh/id_rsa', 'secret')) {
  echo "Public Key Authentication Successful\n";
} else {
  die('Public Key Authentication Failed');
}
?>
does this usefull for me ?
 
I am hopefull
 
how to setup a key ?
 
use ssh-keygen and add resulted public key into server's authorized_keys config file
 
..
@samitha .. atleast try: lmgtfy.com/?q=ssh2+generate+keys
 
Can anyone answer my Question ?
regarding windows command prompt
 
8:19 AM
.. @asma Do we really need to point out that it might actually help to post the link to said question ? ....
 
@DamienOvereem if you can not predict that easy thing, how could you be called an expert? :pp
 
@AlmaDoMundo what's the secure way from this ? i want to send data to the remote sever . SFTP or cURL ?
 
Well I could ofcourse open his stack profile and go search for a question about windows command prompt.. but i'll be damned if I would put in that effort..
 
@samitha depends of what are you treating as 'secure'
 
8:20 AM
For PHP we should follow the ZEND standards, log error in the main function body and throw exceptions (custom/original) in catch block. — Satyam Saxena 8 mins ago
 
@DamienOvereem wow. I even didn't though about that :p that was a joke only
 
throw exceptions in catch block? oO
 
cURL need a data accept file .can anyone inject this ? @AlmaDoMundo
 
@Leri WTF?
 
8:21 AM
That question belongs on superuser @asma .. it has nothing to do with programming
 
hmmm
okie, let me try there
thanks @dam
 
@Leri okay. WTF!
 
@Leri it's much better then to throw them in finally block :D
 
@bwoebi ask @SatyamSaxena. :D
 
@Leri huh?
 
8:24 AM
@AlmaDoMundo Generally there's not much point in that unless you're turning them into some other kind of exception, you do try { /* stuff */ } finally { /* clean up */ } and just let the exception bubble
Mornings
 
Yeah, but I don't get the logging stuff
 
@DaveRandom morning
 
why not having a logging catch-all handler on top of your component (and/or dispatch entirely) and handle logging there?
 
@Leri and Zend standards are absolutely not interesting :-D
 
it should not be coded in your logic
 
8:26 AM
@DaveRandom that was a joke as an answer to throwing them in catch block :p
 
@Leri, like that: <?php try { addOne(); } catch (Exception $e) { throw Exception('The incoming number is empty'); } function addOne($number) { if (empty($number)) { Log::instance()->add(Log::ERROR, $e->getMessage()); } return $number+1; } ?> — Satyam Saxena 2 mins ago
 
@AlmaDoMundo I have been known to throw in a catch... try { /* stuff */ } catch (LibSpecificException $e) { throw new GenericException('It done gon rong', 0, $e); }
 
why do that?
 
I like code like try { … } catch (Exception $e) { trigger_error($e->getMessage(), E_USER_NOTICE); /* don't abort program! */ } :-(
 
@AlmaDoMundo Change context of exception?
 
8:30 AM
so why? I.e. what holds you from throwing correct one directly?
 
Good bloody !
 
@Jimbo good Monday morning
 
@AlmaDoMundo Imagine you could write and were writing a userland PDO driver. Every exception thrown by PDO is a PDOException, so in order to conform to that interface you would have to "convert" the exception type to the one the consumer expects
 
Any of you have a PDO wrapper you use often?
 
@DaveRandom Looking good so far
 
8:36 AM
Be careful @Jimbo any naughty stuff and my company might come after you ;)
 
@Fabien Hey I'm just providing a tool that can hook in to anything or nothing ;)
You're right though, I might change it to "Downloads"
 
Just host it in scandinavia or something.
 
Oh yeah, it'll be hosted in France I think, that's where the dedicated is
or netherlands
 
was just learning about (Session)[en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_(computer_science)], it means if I can copy the session id from on client node to another, I can steal a session.
 
8:43 AM
@iroegbu It's square, then round ;) ... [ ] ( )
 
oh... Thanks. Too late to edit tho
 
To upgrade to php 5.5, whats the best way to remove php 5.3 on CentOS? Otherwise it conflicts.
 
sudo apt-get remove php* ? :D
 
pretty sure I gimped some stuff that way before
 
Well for a start, apt-get doesn't exist on RH...
and for another thing, it's easily possible to have as many versions as you like on the same server at the same time
 
8:49 AM
I only need the one though. No use for php 5.3.3 on here
 
How is it installed at the moment? Via yum?
If so you should be able to just yum update php
 
sudo yum remove php php-common seemed to do the job.
@DaveRandom The centos version may be too old :( usually is for work servers.
It's working now though. I prematurely help vampired. :X TBF that method works 90% of the time for me. Ask for help and then 5 minutes later I find the solution.
 
is there a way to force PHP when it's evaluating bools in if? Like this - i.e. to pass into if, but complete entire expression
 
Not long left now aye @DaveRandom?
 
@Fabien Buy a rubber duck :-P
@Fabien Indeed, counting down the days
 
8:56 AM
heh
Weekend was too fast. I'm holding on to my last 2 weeks of holiday to use them up around Christmas. A nice vacation :)
 
@AlmaDoMundo Short-circuit eval means that will never happen. You could do 3v4l.org/jGt7o but... wat?
 
@DaveRandom oO.. I'd better assign them before if :p
 
I think that's probably best ;-)
 
I though there's a way to do this, but it seems it's a case when one-liner isn't a way to better code
 
You know what I think is ugly... new lines inside the if brackets. You ain't got no alibi!
 
9:01 AM
VB.net has two distinct logical or operators IIRC, one which short circuits and one which doesn't
I'm glad we don't have that
 
3v4l.org/KKqb9 … that way maybe?
 
cheeky
Still unreadable though, just pre-assign
 
You could use the | operator for booleans and it'll work like ||, just evaluating everything…
 
Also what happens when the operands are vectors?
 
9:03 AM
@DaveRandom how do you mean vectors? arrays?
 
@bwoebi no, that will not work properly
 
Arrays work, objects don't: 3v4l.org/UajkE (apparently)
 
that's why it isn't good
 
Yeh sure, that's the problem with it :-P
 
php -r 'var_dump("foo" | NULL);'
int(0)
erm WHAT?
 
9:06 AM
that's because in common case | has nothing to do with logical or
 
@AlmaDoMundo well… I'd expect that ("foo" | NULL) === ("foo" | "\0\0\0") === "foo"
don't understand why this returns an int(0)
 
Do not anger the gods of PHP type-casting
 
oooooh
 
@bwoebi It happens because they are both cast to int. I don't get why that is though...
 
@DaveRandom I'm used to expr a | expr b => expr of type a or type b but not expr of type c
 
9:10 AM
I'd expect string(0) ""
 
@DaveRandom or this. but int?!
 
Yeh that makes no sense. I'm guessing there's a high-precedence rule that NULL becomes an int in bitwise ops, then int | string casts string to int
 
@DaveRandom maybe. Will look at source…
 
hell yeah, I'd better assign them before if rather than mess with all those mysteria :p
 
9:12 AM
@AlmaDoMundo Quite apart from that, even your original code is of dubious readability.
 
@DaveRandom in terms of short circuit - yes, quite so
 
it just operates on strings if both are string else it's just casted to int.
 
@bwoebi I can't really argue with that logic, tbh
 
@DaveRandom don't like that too.
 
9:15 AM
I guess you could argue in favour of "if one is string cast other to string" but all the arguments for that could be used for the current arrangement
Actually I think if could do with a string | object special case to invoke __toString()
 
php > var_dump("123" | "456");
string(3) "577"
php > var_dump("123" | 456);
int(507)
(the one is bitwise or of strings the other bitwise or of ints…)
 
@bwoebi Yeh but arguably people who are using bitwise ops should know better in the first place
 
what would you now expect xD
 
@bwoebi There aren't many languages that actually let you do bitwise operations on strings, so I'm not sure where you're getting your "expected behaviour" from...
stackoverflow.com/questions/201323/… <-- the entire first page, only one answer mentions filter_var() :-(
 
I now also understand why this doesn't work as expected: <select …><option value="1">…</option><option value="2">…</option><option value="4">…</option><option value="8">…</option><option value="16">…</option></select> and then use a bitwise or on the array… (array_reduce(function ($int, $bits) { return $bits | $int; }, $_POST['array'], array_pop($_POST['array']));)
 
9:21 AM
@bwoebi Yeh but again, if you are doing bitwise ops on arbitrary data you should know better than that, and do a bit of type checking first...
 
@DaveRandom I know very simple email-regex. That's ^[^@]+@[^@]$ :p
 
I know a great one. /.+/
 
@DaveRandom hmm.. even @ isn't mandatory?
 
Point is more that validating email syntax is a completely pointless exercise
brb
 
@DaveRandom yup. just do $array = array_filter('is_numeric', $_POST['array']); makes no difference in result.
@DaveRandom does the empty email address not exist? :-(
 
9:25 AM
@bwoebi well.. let it be \0 :p
 
@AlmaDoMundo one byte too much xD
 
grr.. it will be empty C-string :p
 
@AlmaDoMundo that's just an empty string by convention. In reality there's still a NUL-byte. Most functions just ignore it.
 
by the way. I've discovered that in MySQL there could be variable with empty name :p
 
@AlmaDoMundo like the famous ${""} in PHP?
 
9:27 AM
@bwoebi
mysql> select @;
+------------+
| @          |
+------------+
| I am empty |
+------------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
better :p
 
lol
 
@AlmaDoMundo that's a sad record :(
 
:)
@Ocramius it's a valid variable, you can work with it in normal way
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Q: how to dynamic loading dlls via C#? and the dlls are more than two

user2878241因项目需要,现在需要动态加载一些dll,例如:A.dll和B.dll,其中A.dll中的AMethod()方法调用了B.dll内容,我使用如下代码加载A.dll: Assembly dllAmy = Assembly.LoadFile(dllPath); Assembly.LoadFile(referDllPath); classType = dllAmy.GetType(className); method = classType.GetMethod(methodName); ...

 
@bwoebi Syntactically the minimum length for a valid email address would be 5 chars. But at the end of the day the only useful email address validation is 3-way click-back confirmation, generally you care if an email address exists, not whether it theoretically could
 
@AlmaDoMundo like help it find a suicide cabin?
 
9:32 AM
@Ocramius actually, I was working on a way to find all session-defined vars
and found this
in MySQL, variable can have any name. I.e. \0 or \n - it does not matter
 
@DaveRandom I like xxx@xxx.xxx email as placeholder when I don't want to give them my real email^^
 
@bwoebi contact@microsoft.com
 
@DaveRandom HAHAHAHA :-D
 
Is it possible to detect if this output is triggerd by a var_dump / print_r / echo ?
http://hastebin.com/fatigihami.erl
 
@Duikboot black box? No.
 
9:40 AM
hmm damn I've put it in some file :p but I can't find it anymore.
 
@Duikboot It's possible to look at it and see that it looks like var_dump() output...
 
@DaveRandom well… strlen in output ≠ strlen of text
 
True, but I assume we're either seeing a small fragment or there's a shitload of missing whitespace
 
Is there a way / statement that I can use so I can see wich pages are 'called' ?
 
Or it's been dumped in a browser and there's a load of markup that's been rendered instead of printed
 
9:44 AM
So I can detected where the var_dump is comming from.
 
Just grep through your codebase for var_dump
 
Because locally It renders the var_dump and the page but online I can only see the var_dump the webpage is not rendering anymore.
 
@Duikboot quickly by just declare(ticks = 1); register_tick_function(function () { debug_print_backtrace(); }); at the top of the code. and then strg + f for "var_dump"
@Duikboot maybe online and offline different php versions or inis?
 
Yay for needlessly complex solutions
 
@DaveRandom well, it's faster if you have a lot of commented out var_dump()'s in your code… Then you quickly might overlook the right var_dump().
 
9:47 AM
5.4.10 offline
5.3.23 online
 
Why would you have a shitload of commented out var dumps? I mean maybe one or two...
 
@Duikboot and when you upgrade to php 5.4.10 online?
 
When my host wants to do that :P
 
moin
 
Hi Joe!
 
9:48 AM
Morning @JoeWatkins
 
@Duikboot then install locally a separate php 5.3.23 binary?
 
Maybe that can be a good solutions to prevent those issues
 
@DaveRandom well… in not ready for production code I often have just 4-5 var_dump()'s … per file. Commented out.
 
Guys, anyone with xmpp knowledge??
 
9:50 AM
Cleaning up when pushing for production.
 
so ... we're just going ignore that magic quotes are still around and not talk about it ...
 
@UdaySawant just use the builtin php server OR a vagrant box :-)
 
oooh, wait
XMPP? the protocol?
 
9:51 AM
@JoeWatkins it's to support still disabling magic quotes.
 
The functions are there to prevent scripts that use it from blowing up due to undefined functions, but they don't actually do anything
 
why does the doc say it is removed
what's the point in marking some deprecated and then removed when it isn't, and never was ...
 
Interesting. Ping the doc list about it
 
@JoeWatkins Well… explain me the difference of throwing a fatal error or removing it?
@DaveRandom no. ping internals and remove it.
 
in what way is it deprecated if no error is raised ... set_magic_quotes_runtime(false)
 
9:53 AM
@JoeWatkins jup…
 
@bwoebi Well true, but the docs are still wrong
 
@DaveRandom no the implementation doesn't follow the docs here and not the inverse.
 
Granted, but the docs are still wrong. It exists in code that has been released as 5.5
 
yes the protocol
 
9:54 AM
released
5.5
magic quotes
5.5
 
!?
 
I would like to know how GMail tells us that the user is to whome the msg is send is offline
I mean some user is online and i am chatting with him and suddenly he goes offline. ctat state still show that he is online and I send a msg
then gmail says that the said user is offline and msg will be delivered later
 
Is that XMPP based? I somehow doubt it
 
if anyone knows how that part is implemented
yes xmpp based
it was, now they have moved to web sockets
 
Not without reverse engineering it. It shouldn't be too hard to do it you have two endpoints to observe and chrome debug tools
The client-side, anyway. The server side is a black box
 
9:57 AM
naaahhh
gmail encriptes all data
I just want to know what protocol they use
what msg they pass so as to show me the error that user is offline
 
@UdaySawant Using HTTPS does not prevent you from using chrome's debug tools to view the raw data. They aren't going to encrypt the data in-browser because that would be trivial to decrypt, since all keys would have to be visible to the user in order for that to work
@bwoebi You want to talk about unexpected behaviour, var_dump(substr('foo', 3)); // bool(false) :-(
 
@DaveRandom According to php.net/substr: If string is less than or equal to start characters long, FALSE will be returned.
 
@bwoebi Yeh I know that's expected according to the docs, it's not expected in terms of what is sane though
 
that's obvious since string starts at 0 index
 
All that needs to be done is remove the "or equal to"
var_dump(substr('foo', 4)); // bool(false) makes sense-ish but because of the current behaviour I have to write this line:
$this->writeBuffer = (string) substr($this->writeBuffer, $bytesWrittenLen);
I mean really?? Needing to cast the return value of a string function to a string?
 
10:12 AM
if you're doing overlay - why not?
 
@DaveRandom why not? what would you expect? a nul byte like in C? xD
 
i.e. if you're breaking string length - so be prepared to such things..
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/19357545/… … coding style discussions make me sad…
 
I expect an empty string, because that is what you get when you get a string and take all the characters out of it
 
Is it just me who thinks of astronauts whenever I hear a talk about UML and use cases?
 
10:15 AM
@DaveRandom not sure I got your point. Why should you got an empty string? (i'm not agree with that false in substr - my though that should be null)
 
null would make more sense than false
 
why? no symbols at all means exactly what null is: 'no value', i.e. 'no data'
i.e. you have not any string data after it's last symbol
why is it false?
 
Supposedly you made an "error", and I get that for when you tried to take 4 chars off a 3 char string, but when you take 3 chars off a 3 char string it's not an error, there's just nothing left
 
@AlmaDoMundo yeah I agree, null would be better.
 
and.. what? didn't get that in context why substr with illegal offset should return false
 
10:19 AM
what is the secure way of sending data to remote server ? ssh or cUrl
?
 
I think that if there are any data it should be returned (like LIMIT 10000000 in mysql to get all remaining rows)
 
can anyone else get edit.php.net ?
 
i.e. if you're doing substr('foo', 1, 10) that should be 'oo'
 
@JoeWatkins I'm in
@AlmaDoMundo It is...
 
@JoeWatkins it's accessible (of course I can not login)
only as anon
 
10:28 AM
They spent so long on this documentation and it's terrible!
 
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Q: ssh or cURL to send data to remote server

samithaI'm creating a app to sync local db to remote db.So i'm generating a dump file and send it via the sFtp and execute it in the server.As i know it's the secure way.But my head going to the other methods like cURL .I like to send data to remote and execute it from the sever wen accept the TRUE .Bu...

 
@JoeWatkins is anon user allowed to do something like edit actions?
 
@AlmaDoMundo You can edit and save and create a patch, but someone with commit access has to review it. I try and clear through the outstanding patches (and any anon edits that were not added to a patch) every day, generally stuff won't sit there for more than a week or so
 
actually, I barely understanding that (obviously it's XML, but what are dependencies?). I've looked into BC bcadd sample
 
bcmath is pissing me off at the moment actually. bcscale() should return the old value, as it stands there's no way to fetch the current default scale value so I can't fix the strict standards errors in it :-(
 
10:38 AM
@DaveRandom then use GMP?
 
I don't care about using it, only that the docs for it have strict standards errors in that cannot be fixed
 
that was only sample (I am first time there so I wondered if I could do something helpful there - so opened that page randomly)
@DaveRandom for example, what does this mean?
 
@AlmaDoMundo Ahh. Well firstly, compare what the docs page looks like to the XML source, it should be fairly simple to see what relates to what. And secondly it's best if you try and find a problem and fix it, if you particularly what to you can go find and kill a docs bug (of which there are many)
@AlmaDoMundo Ahh don't worry about that, just don't delete it (and actually I don't really know myself).
 
@DaveRandom I'm not so familiar with docs to know bugs there :p
 
@AlmaDoMundo bugs.php.net/…
274 open docs bugs :-(
 
10:43 AM
huh.. I've never used bugs.php.net :p I'll take a look
 
@DaveRandom still the best place for learning PHP =oP
 
@crypticツ Oh yeh I mean considering the size of the project (and that some of them were opened by idiots) it's not a terrible rate
 

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