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12:00 AM
@JoeyMorani How are you stripping the tags?
 
using strip_tags()
Seems to get rid of the HTML, but anything else is left
 
You need to look into DOMDocument
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Q: PHP Using domdocument to extract data from html

JimI have a table with the following structure. I cannot seem to get the data I want. <table class="gsborder" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" rules="cols" border="1" id="d00"> <tr class="gridItem"> <td>Code</td><td>0adf</td> </tr><tr class="AltItem"&...

 
Ah awesome. Thanks @PeeHaa
 
np
 
1 0 * * * php-build master
11 0 * * * php-build 5.4dev
21 0 * * * php-build 5.3dev
 
12:26 AM
MY apartment now has three air conditioners and it's still hot!
went and bought two more 5000 btu ac's and I have one 6000btu ac..
:<
F U HOT WEATHER
 
++
 
no seriously.... I had to buy more AC's because I have marine fish tanks (salt water) and the coral will die because the tank temp is 38C
because my appt is like 40C
:<
top floor of a building with LOTS of windows... and I thought this would be "a nice view"
 
it sure is hot over there (wherever it is you live)
 
yeah , it's hot
oh .. Jeff made another turd in twitter .. the short version: "every tablet that is not iPad sucks"
 
@marcoarment @codinghorror @ircmaxell My attempt to help new PHP devs get started with the best information available http://www.phptherightway.com
 
click-bait
also , it's kinda empty
few hard-to-read paragraphs with external links
and .. emm .. $stmt->bindParam(':id', (int)$_GET['id'], PDO::PARAM_INT); .. looks like someone is using emulated prepares
 
:-D
 
and yes , i'm feeling a bit hungry
well .. at least he's not as bad as this individual : reddit.com/user/phpexperts_pro
 
1:30 AM
ROTFL: Strict Standards: Only variables should be passed by reference in /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/PHP-Master/run-tests.php on line 2679
 
1:52 AM
@ircmaxell , a quick question
 
yo
 
if i use while ( $i++ < count( $foo) ) , will it execute count() on each itteration , or just once
 
each iteration
 
or did it apply only for foreach ,
 
any time count() is encountered, it's run
 
1:55 AM
yeah .. it was brainfart
i was thinking of foreach( array_slice() as $foo )
where array_slice() is executed only once
 
yeah
 
i shall use 5 AM as my defense
 
lol
 
another stupid question : should i store a directional tree as array, or an object graph
basically , which is easer for some else to understand ( i personally find nested-set arrays confusing )
 
2:43 AM
basically the choice is between :
protected function plot( $segments )
{
    $total = count( $segments );
    $current = 0;

    for ( $i = 0; $i < $total; $i++ )
    {
        $key = $segments[ $i ];
        if ( !array_key_exists( $key,  $this->map[ $current ][ 'nodes' ] ) ){
            $this->map[] = $this->stem;
            $this->map[ $current ][ 'nodes' ][ $key ] = count( $this->map ) - 1;
        }
        $current = $this->map[ $current ][ 'nodes' ][ $key ];
    }
    return $current;
}
and ,,
protected function plot( $segments )
{

    $total = count( $segments );
    $current = $this->map;

    for ( $i = 0 ; $i < $total ; $i++ )
    {
        $key = $segments[ $i ];
        if ( !array_key_exists( $key,  $current->nodes ) ){
            $current->nodes[ $key ] = clone $this->stem;
        }
        $current = $current->nodes[ $key ];
    }

    return $current;
}
 
as i see it , the array-based tree is more confusing , but possible to refactor further ..
@ircmaxell , can you be sure that it's always UTF8 ?
 
no, and that's why it's forced. Because I had a broken build because it was invalid UTF-8
 
> Status Code: 404
 
you may not have access... but you should
can you access build.ircmaxell.com ?
 
2:48 AM
yes
 
can you access any of the projects? It's in PHP-Master
 
ain't one required to log in before accessing that link above ?
 
shouldn't be, it's read-only
 
i have never payed around with jenkins
i think this should not look like this
 
hrm, no. let me update some configs
 
MLM
2:55 AM
Hey
 
mother fkcr
howtf do you get OCI8 to work on ubuntu >_>
 
there you go, try it again
 
[Fri Jul 06 19:55:13 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function oci_connect() in /var/www/phpinfo.php on line 2
bahumbug
 
@Mike , IIRC, it required some blood sacrifice and manual compilation
 
yes i believe it does @tereško
how can you tell if the extension has been loaded
 
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2:57 AM
Is it just me or does everything that comes out of the PSR/FIG people feel just a little bit like advertising for Symfony and team Potencier?
 
would it be in phpinfo();
 
@ircmaxell , now it works
@rdlowrey , and this comes to you as a surprise why ?
 
yup @tereško pretty sure i have to manually compile oci
 
I hate jenkins .. project manager loves it tough
 
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It's not surprising ... I think that's my biggest beef with the PSR movement: it doesn't feel like open source at all. It feels like advertising for one framework/development house.
 
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3:01 AM
More like a power-play for the heart of php than anything ... not a community-driven movement to benefit the language and its user base.
 
@rdlowrey , here's the scary part : they look up to Potencier as paragon of best practices
 
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yeah ...
 
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I guess if the only thing you know how to cook yourself is breakfast cereal, when someone comes along peddling microwave dinners you probably think they're a damn gourmet chef.
 
@Krish why?
@rdlowrey I've tried to push it to be more community driven. They say yes, sounds great, but ignore the advice
 
How do I correctly check if a $_POST field is empty , say $_POST['field'] ?
 
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3:06 AM
Oh well, all you can do is try.
 
@GiovanniDiToro , did you try empty() ?
 
empty is a bit tricky deal with
 
@ircmaxell any one who brakes a build , will be tracked productivity / efficiency is measured..
 
@Krish eih, that's not a fault of the tool, but a fault of mis-management
 
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3:09 AM
@Krish I've never worked in any sort of corporate programming environment but that sort of philosophy seems very counterproductive.
 
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Code design is emergent. It's organic. You can't shoehorn all the desirable qualities of a good programmer into small-sample-size statistics like "Only one build-breaking bug in 143 commits"
 
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Managers probably don't like that idea, though :)
 
I dislike hard metrics like that
and I'm a manager
 
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@ircmaxell Well I'd hold you up as the example of the anti-manager (in a good way)
 
@rdlowrey : main issue is, people without being tracked, wont work in corporate environment's .
atleast in my place
 
3:13 AM
Sure it will. It just means that managers need to do their jobs
 
if its freelance works, its you who will face the consequences..in companies, delivery of the product will have very less impact on coders..
 
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You can't have a free-for-all, obviously. But lack of motivation is either a management problem or a human resources problem. If you have good people and good managers, you don't have to treat the coders like slaves to squeeze good work out of them. If you don't have good people, who did the hiring?
 
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Okay, I think the beer is wearing off enough to get me back into the Balmer-peak zone. Time for some code.
 
Hey all!
 
people will be good if you pay them good :P thats the problem ...
 
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3:18 AM
It's my opinion that the most underappreciated rule in the universe is that you get what you pay for. If you pay peanuts, you'll never have good coders.
 
I have a blog and want to categorize posts by some categories the client gave me.. One post may be under more than one category, and categories will be more or less fixed.. How should I handle it?
 
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LEFT JOIN
 
@AnPel , three tables : Posts, Categories and PostCategories
 
@rdlowrey you mean left join table categories that contains cetegory name and category id WITH table posts that contains everything else plus categoryId? If so, how can one post be under more than one category?
 
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@AnPel what @tereško said.
 
3:21 AM
@tereško what do you mean by PostCategories? PostCategories holds postId and categoryId and I select from postcategories where postid = the id i want to show?
 
SELECT
    Posts.post_id ,
    Posts.title
FROM Posts
    LEFT JOIN PostCategories USING(post_id)
    LEFT JOIN Categories USING(category_id)
WHERE Categories.title = 'foobar'
 
USING is a keyword I've never seen.. I'll google it now..
 
@rdlowrey : thats why they hire people in MASS here.. :|
 
@rdlowrey @tereško ty guys, I don't think I could get a better solution
 
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@Krish lol. The most important question to ask a potential employer before accepting a job offer? What's the turnover ratio?
 
3:24 AM
lol , in my experience , 1 good developer is better then 20 random guys from india
 
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@tereško Stack Overflow is a case study in that very fact.
 
well .. there are good devels in India too ..
 
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Of course, most of the questions from Americans seem to indicate brain damage of some kind as well, so I don't know what I'm talking about :)
 
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If there's one thing I'll always feel good about betting against it's the American educational system :)
 
is there a more efficient solution than mysql_real_escape_string??
 
3:27 AM
this is what you get when interviews are conducted by HR department
@PradyumnaSharma SQL prepared statements
 
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15 hours ago, by tereško
@Ron the mysql_* functions are no longer maintained and the community has begun deprecation process. See the red box? Instead you should learn about prepared statements and use either PDO or MySQLi. If you can't decide which, this article will help you. If you pick PDO, here is good tutorial.
 
YES FINALLY VICTORY
got OCI8 installed
 
@rdlowrey , how do you implement class loader
 
mother f'er was complaing about libaio.1 missed the step sudo apt-get install libaio1
 
?
 
3:29 AM
I am using CodeIgniter ..
 
@PradyumnaSharma my condolences
 
@Krish From India?
 
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@tereško I don't even bother right now. I expect 3rd party libs to provide a bootstrap and I just do basic stuff for any other namespaces I need like:
 
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spl_autoload_register(function($className) {
    if (0 === strpos($className, 'MyLib\\')) {
        $className = str_replace('\\', '/', $className);
        require MY_LIB_DIR . "/src/$className.php";
    }
});
 
@PradyumnaSharma : yeah..
 
3:30 AM
@tereško n00b here started with PHP just 6 months ago
 
btw..check your profile.. mechanical background.. good to know
 
@rdlowrey :-D
 
user895378
I think the need for universal autoloaders is overblown. If you're providing a lib, give people a bootstrap file that does it for them.
 
@PradyumnaSharma , in that case you should not be touching frameworks for at least a year
 
user895378
Otherwise, specifying exactly what you need in terms of autoloading is really simple to implement on a case-by-case basis
 
3:32 AM
why not just use composer ..
 
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Or composer. I try to use git submodules when possible.
 
@Krish , you mean this : github.com/composer/composer ?
 
@tereško : yes
 
@tereško Just wanted to make a website started with procedural style soon understood that it was not enough so jumped into frameworks. www.tmdb.co.in
 
user895378
Even with composer you'll still be loading a bootstrap file, though usually transparently.
 
3:34 AM
@PradyumnaSharma : telugu vastunda ?
 
@PradyumnaSharma , the main problem is that all the major php frameworks a filled with bad practices , which nobody with 6 month experience can be expected to see .. you end up learning our coding style from pretty questionable sources
 
@tereško Symfony isn't, and Zend doesn't seem to be
 
@David I think he was rferring to cakePHP,CI etc
 
CodeIgniter sucks, flat-out.
 
@David : I agree .. I am symfony fanboy
 
3:37 AM
@David , Symphony 2.x has issue .. but not so extensive. As for ZF ... it's a mess.
the SF 1.x is just bad
 
Symfony 1 was bad, I'm aware. ZF 2 is a mess? I thought it was completely rewritten.
 
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Symfony is the least egregious of the frameworks. But that's like saying George W. Bush was better than Hitler and Mussolini.
 
when you look at SF1.x code , first thought that comes to mind is : "Kill it with fire !!"
 
@teresko I've seen it, it's terrible.
 
@David ZF2.x is not stable yet .. and yes , it is a mess , statics everywhere
 
3:39 AM
I have read some articles about the frameworks being bad . Being a starter i cannot comment on them but as in my experience they are very starter/newbie friendly.
 
@tereško I do find developing on Sf2 comfortable though not as nice as using my own code
 
@Krish email id if you can..
 
Am I the only one feeling frameworks are a last resort and that in the time taken to learn one, you can write your own AND become a good developer in the process?
 
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The problem is this: there's no such thing as mass-appeal combined with nuanced technical elegance. This is true in any field or art form. By definition, large-scale popularity means you appeal to the lowest common denominator.
 
github.com/Nijikokun/http is actually a really nice starting point for 99% of projects
 
3:41 AM
@PradyumnaSharma : thats the point..initially you will feel the codeigniter is the most awesome thing even happened to php devs ..you will start feeling the opposite when you really are doing some NON CRUD things..
 
CodeIgniter is just a piece of crap based on a 6 year old version of PHP
 
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It drives me nuts when people combine an entire library into one file ...
 
Legacy Support.. :P
 
@David , that's not really true, since only thing that in CI causes the requirement for php5 is the __construct() methods
 
@tereško Good point. 10 year old.
 
3:43 AM
the rest of codebase has not really changed since php4
 
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Wait, when did PHP University happen!?!? OMG.
 
oh god
not you too
 
There's evidently YAFF (yet another farking framework) called FuelPHP which I saw someone ask a question about on SO recently
heard of it?
 
@David : you would have heard about it, if you had some recent Codeigniter background ..
 
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lol you get your own @phpu.cc email address with your $5 weekly matriculation fee to PHP University. SIGN ME UP!
 
3:44 AM
@rdlowrey that is a piece of crap , which is advertised by one very misguided individual , suffering from Dunning–Kruger effect
 
@Krish why's that?
 
@David : main devs are from CI background ..
 
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@tereško lol that is so bad it's awesome.
 
@David , yes , its bad too
 
ah
@tereško I'm honestly afraid to look at the code but i'm about to
 
3:45 AM
basically CI with namespaces
 
I know the CakePHP people created lithify.me (lithium)
 
@tereško : but when people get a cool cli , it will be like wow..
 
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@tereško by the way, I keep meaning to start The Dresden Files but programming books keep being unshifted to the front of the queue.
 
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(downloading now)
 
@rdlowrey , get the audiobook version then
you cannot read development books while driving
 
3:47 AM
The only programming book I've ever fully read was The Art of Computer Programming by Donald Knuth
 
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haha true
 
generally I otherwise get bored
 
and FYI , first two are something like an intro
and the audiobooks are read by James Marsters
 
Why do people feel the utmost need to always include a template engine with these frameworks...
 
@David , because that the first "feature" the can think of
and because everyone else has templates
 
3:49 AM
heh. I like Twig because it's very simple to explain to people who know a little HTML and want to modify the design, but get overwhelmed by php syntax
 
@David : I am aware that in symfony you can bring in your own templating engine or just use php.. but even they have twig by default..
 
but forcing it upon users is annoying
 
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For the record, you can use php to template in any framework.
 
Yes, I know...but it reminds me of those fake virus scan sites
 
oh , but then you are not cool as other kids
 
3:50 AM
Are you sure you don't want to use our template engine?!?!
It supports MULTIPLE inheritance! OF templates! Which makes sense!
And auto-escaping!
 
lol
 
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OMG the multiple inheritance argument for Twig drives me bananas.
 
Multiple inheritance makes no sense
it's a template
for a web page
 
University open sourced projects (subscribers only) .. lol... ( from phpu)
 
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lol so true
 
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3:51 AM
"But I need template inheritance so I can have modular template reuse!"
 
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Uh, include ????
 
I actually just lol'd
It's such a joke, and unfortunately this stuff is filled into the minds of people just starting development
Also...why do all frameworks seem to bury the MVC paradigm by generating form markup from within the controller?
 
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It's true. All I heard for the first three or four years I worked with PHP was how glorious Smarty was and how you were a moron if you didn't use it.
 
Ugh, Smarty's awful. I picked up PHP when I was 12 and that's all I heard about
 
@David , because they do not implement MVC .. not even remotely
 
3:53 AM
Completely avoided it with the rationale that there was no point in learning another language to do a crappier job at the same task.
 
what they have instead is a perversion of MVP
 
@tereško but they all call themselves 'MVC'
because it's become a buzzword of sorts
 
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@David Yeah, @tereško has forgotten more about MVC than the framework authors know about it on their best day.
 
@David of course
 
The really strange thing about it is that this MVC stuff popped up recently, but MVC was one of the first programming architectures created for desktop applications
 
3:55 AM
@rdlowrey , that's not really true .. since i am still trying to wrap my head around the whole concept
 
holy ballsacks @tereško i love Ubuntu as a dev server.. ill nevrar return to MAMP
 
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@tereško I'm not sure that disqualifies my statement :)
 
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@Mike dude, once you start developing on linux you'll never go back.
 
@Mike it's so much more comforting than OS x isn't it?
 
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Has anyone used header_remove in unit tests involving code that sends headers?
 
3:56 AM
idk about dev'ing in *nix, but ill def use it as a lampp stack :)
 
@rdlowrey it doesn't disqualify your statement because he's 80% of the way there and the framework developers are 10% of the way there
 
got a VM of ubuntu 12 running with 6gb of ram lol, overkill much?
 
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no such thing as too much vm ram :)
 
physical ram is mapped to the vm ram
 
@Mike , i have a VM with freebsd , which has 196MB ram
 
3:57 AM
its actually eating 6gb of ram
 
oO
 
@rdlowrey and 90% of the framework developers' definition of a controller is "put all of the logic relating to the entire application here and have a couple of getters and setters in the model class and then have a smarty/twig/mustache/??? template that renders the values"
 
/shrug, i has 48gb
 
@Mike on what type of machine?
 
are you running desktop environment there or something ?!?
 
3:58 AM
@tereško its not using 6gb, but vmware fusion takes 6gb and allocates it.
 
oh ..
 
yes, i7 980x with 48gb of ram
 
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@Mike you bastard.
 
6 8gb sticks of ddr3 1600
 
i hate you
 
3:58 AM
overkill =D
 
i am running my VM on a netbook =/
 
only problem is, i need to sell my GTX 480s.. they are quite a heat source.
 
user895378
You're probably single-handedly responsible for at least two power outages every year in the state of Arizona running a machine like that.
 
yeah twin GTX 480s is a fuckton of power
 
and the 980x
 
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4:00 AM
I couldn't use 48 gigs of ram if my life depended on it.
 
what on earth do you need that much processing power for
 
yeah 130w
 
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"Yes, I have 10 dvds playing at the same time. Yes, they're all loaded in memory."
 
rd, ill have to take a screenshot.. i have win7, winxp vm's and ubuntu running
 
@David , yeah .. its basically because they all then to replace model layer with just a collection of ORM instances and view is just a template .. you have to put the higher level business logic and presentation logic somewhere .. so it ends up in "controller"
 
4:01 AM
and win xp has a vm runnign for ie7 ie8
so win7, winxp, winxp, ubuntu
 
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@Mike lol I think you're computer is the matrix.
 
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That or the inspiration for the movie Inception
 
it started as a hobby, now its an addiction dude
 
not sure
i am running basically the same stuff
 
too much money in this thing.
 
4:01 AM
@tereško and yet the actual flow of a controller is ( receive (maybe sanitize) user input--->send to model--->view )
 
hey, in nix how do you find out what group a user belongs to
 
there's a few articles which have it right, generally 'fat models, skinny controllers' as the headline
 
like myself
specifically ubuntu
 
if you put business logic in a controller you almost by default violate DRY
 
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$ groups <username>
 
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4:03 AM
i believe. hold on, better google. yeah that's right
 
@David , depends in the implementation. What you described is more like MVP .. in close-to-classical version , the view instances is are capable of requesting information from model , controller has no direct impact on the view
 
@tereško ah
duly noted.
 
yeah it is
now, to figure out why osx wont login to my share on ubuntu >_>
 
@tereško wtf honestly...
 
heh fuelphp
i was using that for awhile
 
4:06 AM
another of my pet peeves is why people write abstraction layers around abstraction layers...and then put another abstraction layer around it
we don't need DB extends DBAL extends PDO
 
DAMN YOU OSX CONNECT TO MAH SHARES
 
steve jobs won't let you do that
 
oh great, finder crashed
ffs
 
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yeah, but that crash finder looks sexy, so it's all good. steve jobs said no.
 
Hal voice: I'm sorry Mike, I'm afraid I can't do that. You left me Mike, come back to the MAMP.
 
4:07 AM
@David .. reminds me of my own old code
as in "really old"
 
Really old is too subjective
 
5 years
 
ah
 
what the fuck does this mean "the operation can't be completed be cause the original item for "www" can;t be found"
im staring at it
 
OS x hates you
okay i should really go
night everyone
(or morning or whatever)
 
4:09 AM
@Mike , you get that error on which end ? and what are you doing to cause it ?
 
osx end
trying to browse a share as guest
 
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@David later
 
since ubuntu doesnt like my username on ubuntu as a share user for smb
 
you have samba running on ubuntu ?
 
yes
well idk, i clicked "share" on ubuntu and it instaleld a bunch of stuff
and then i fumbled my way through
 
4:11 AM
no idea then ( i do all stuff my manual configuration )
you should try in either askUbuntu page , or #ubuntu IRC channel
it should be an easy to fix problem , because looks like you have not set correct permission on the share
 
yeah had to add my username to /etc/samba/smbusers
all groovy now, ffs i love google.
 
nevermind
 
 
2 hours later…
6:21 AM
need a little help, i have a php cron job which scrapes data off a web page
[06:19am]
t runs fine on the browser, but it doesn't fetch the page when it runs as a cron job
anybody there?
 
Hello
every one
how to get first element in xml file
 
7:05 AM
@jacksparrow007 Code?
@NikunjAkabari What have you tried?
 
 
3 hours later…
10:11 AM
So quiet, I guess everyone is coding hard ;)
 
10:32 AM
morning
@Leigh It's Saturday ^^
 
@NikiC Sure is, first thing I did when I got out of bed was fire up a VM and load eclipse.
 
10:46 AM
@Leigh Exemplary!
 
@NikiC I've decided explode() has been unfairly treated, and needs a 1 parameter version like implode()
 
@Leigh and then it would behave like str_split?
 
@NikiC No, if you did explode('1,2,3') it would assume the delimiter was ','
oh wait, that's not how implode works :( ... if you don't specify glue it actually uses an empty string
not a comma
well, thats fine with me, means I can spend my morning playing games instead
 
PHP
Happy weekend!
hope everyone just away with me(PHP)
 
@Leigh :P
@PHP Happy weekend to you too :)
 
10:55 AM
So Niki, what are you working on?
 
Right now on nothing :D It's too early
Right now is blog-reading time
 
fair enough, I thought you were in russia or somewhere, with more +TZ than me
 
Nah I'm in Germany (Berlin)
 
PHP
is there something interesting blog? Share with us so that we can use our weekend too
 
You're in GB right?
 
10:57 AM
where abouts?
yep
 
@PHP There isn't so much interesting stuff on the weekend. But this was rather interesting: blog.glennf.com/mtarchives/008652.html ^^
 
Not been to Berlin yet, my girlfriend is from Karlsruhe, so mainly been to places like Stuttgart, Heidelburg, Munich.. southern towns :)
 
PHP
@NikiC.. ohh Thanks! its good in this hot afternoon :P
 
I think I'll fix up the dead links on my blog now
 
11:22 AM
Shouldn't this return true? It doesn't.
$pattern = '^\d{3}';
$str = '567';

$r = preg_match($pattern,$str);
var_dump($r);
 
11:35 AM
enable error reporting and you'll see why it doesn't ;)
 
also, it won't return true exactly, it will just be non-false
 
@NikiC Got it. Thanks.
@Leigh Yes, it returns int(1)
 
I changed the pattern to '^\d{3}^' and it seems to work at the beginning (with 567 it returns int(1), but it also does so with 5673 which is 4 digits.
 
11:51 AM
/^\d{3}$/
/ and / are the delimiters
^ means start of string, $ means end of string
\d{3} means three digits
@hakre Do you know how the "Go to test" functionality in PhpStorm works?
I can't figure out how to make it work
 
@NikiC it normally works
 
@hakre Do you have to do some configuration for it?
 
The testcase needs to extend from PHPUnit (in the very end)
 
It is working now :). But, the warning is confusing:
Warning: preg_match(): No ending delimiter '^' found ...
 
Then PHPStorm knows that those are tests and offers each test.
Normally this works pretty much out of the box.
 
11:56 AM
So, I thought a ^ was missing.
 
@hakre PhpStorm does recognize them as tests, but where can it know from what the code tests?
 
@NikiC You mean code coverage?
 
@hakre No, for the go to functionality
 
Okay, the test is normally named as the method but with "Test"
 
hm...
 
11:59 AM
It even goes deeper, just testing it
For example here: github.com/hakre/XDOM/blob/master/tests/XDOM/… in testFormats
 

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