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12:00 AM
@edorian Hmmm.
 
@edorian I like the answer though
 
Thanks for the answer
 
wrong link!
 
so it wasn't working because of <span> ?
 
12:02 AM
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@edorian done
 
@edorian shakesfist
 
@Gordon lol
 
@Gordon Well linking the answer TO CLOSE and not the answer that it should be CLOSED TO is a skill only.... every one else has
 
@edorian it happened to me as well though. i once asked the Operator reference to be closed ;)
 
12:05 AM
:) calms down from fist shaking
 
@LeviMorrison so why were the columns not stretching down?
 
@edorian did you see that http client advertised on twitter?
 
I did the Eiffel for php thingi, which looked quite nice for a first draft
 
looks nice from the API guzzlephp.org
@edorian huh? train station?
 
shiny
@Gordon ermm.. pre and post condition framework thingi
Forgot what It's called
 
12:11 AM
@edorian aaaah. i see :)
 
The thing that C#4.0 and Eiffel have
 
pre and post conditions as first class citizens
 
@LeviMorrison it would help if you reply
 
@edorian why?
 
@Gordon Well ok.. we only get them as second class citizens. But then again isn't that what php is all about
@Gordon Oh s/I did/I've seen/g
 
12:13 AM
@edorian are we considered citizen at all?
 
Hah.. stupid typo
contracts!
Stuart Herbert's Blog: Introducing ContractLib (Programming Contracts): In this recent post to his blog Stuart ... http://bit.ly/yovuS8
 
hey guys
what is the best HTML/PHP IDE out there in your view?
 
@edorian will read tomorror. brain aint capable of grokking. thanks for the link
 
@user1079641 well that's pretty subjective
I use editplus
 
@user1079641 The one that works best for you :)
 
12:21 AM
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Q: What is the best IDE for PHP?

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@user1079641 or what @edorian just said
bed now
night all
 
night
 
gl hf
 
Is there any builtin Exception (predefined / SPL) I could throw in this function?
    protected function validateRequiredParams($params)
    {
        $required = $this->getRequiredParams();

        $missing = array_diff($required, array_keys($params));

        if (!empty($missing)) {
            // throw exception
        }
    }
 
DomainException?
 
@edorian what is meant by data domain?
Would that be the $required array items?
btw the exception docs suck monkey balls (or I'm not looking in the right places :P )
 
12:28 AM
Domain Exception is for "Right type but the inputs don't fit what the functions expects"
 
@PeeHaa possibly InvalidArgumentException... but it depends on what is meant
 
@edorian That's what I said it sucks monkey balls :-)
 
@ircmaxell Didn't we agree on the fact that InvalidArgumentException is for "I want int but you have me string" stuff ?
 
but I'd re-architect to take a value object (otherwise known as a parameter object) as the parameter instead of the array. Then you can enforce the requirements on that object instead
 
Yeah thats the better solution anyways :)
 
12:30 AM
@edorian perhaps... I consider DomainException for things like ENUMs where you're expecting a pre-defined set of values, and it doesn't fit in them...
 
@ircmaxell I was thinking about doing that. Will do that I guess
 
Cool
 
And I still feel that the docs should be more clear about when to use what exception. :)
It's like saying: here we introduce to you nice exceptions to use so everyone will know what they mean, but we won't tell you what they mean that's for you to decide :P
 
Hey think someone can help me? I finally got a form to submit to the database, and got it to display with ajax. Now I need to store the date of the submitted data to the database also so I can sort out the data. How can I do this?
 
posted on January 13, 2012 by Internet Super Hero

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1:43 AM
@Trippy use NOW() as the value to insert into a date/time field, and use SORT BY datefieldname at the end of the select query.
 
 
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4:20 AM
anyone here>
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5:12 AM
Questions like this bug me a bit stackoverflow.com/q/8859949/409279
I mean, sure, it's an honest question; but if it takes me 12 seconds to figure out the answer (whether I knew in advance or not) it takes you 12 seconds to figure out the answer; so why haven't you?
Ahoy @CharlesSprayberry
 
@Bracketworks Howdy
 
How goes your (I assume) Friday evening?
 
@Bracketworks Pretty good. Got my books for school. Got a second interview for a summer internship in KC
 
@CharlesSprayberry Very nice :) Congratulations -- I'm waiting on school books; haven't arrived in the store yet.
 
@Bracketworks Thanks. Much bigger stack this semester. At least the course material looks a little better
 
5:20 AM
@CharlesSprayberry Comp-sci?
 
@Bracketworks Yes, web development and design specifically
 
@CharlesSprayberry Awesome; I'm sorta doing the same -- Did 2 years of New Media Web Design previously, graduated; since it shares a common first year with the Computer Programming program, I jumped into 4th term for my 3rd year; finishing that all up now -- It's college level though, I'm thinking I may get a credit transfer to university for a degree if possible.
 
@Bracketworks Awesome
 
@CharlesSprayberry I'm reading through your SprayfireFramework; I think I may just "port" some of your ideas into the one I'm working on :P
 
@Bracketworks By all means. It is open-source for a reason. I'm glad that you've found something even worthy of taking.
 
5:28 AM
@CharlesSprayberry Here's a question for you; do you use any "rule-of-thumb" when designating definitions to namespaces, based on factors such as implementors/implementees, consumers/consumables, etc.?
 
@Bracketworks This aspect of it has really been a learn-as-you-go, its really the first time I've used namespaces. Basically each namespace should take care of something, and it should be pretty obvious what it is that the namespace does.
As long as I can look at it and say "I know what this does, it is obvious" I'm good
I suck at names though, like \SprayFire\Logging\Logifier <--- hate it. But I already have a Logger interface. Its definitely something I wish I had more experience with in what is expected.
 
@CharlesSprayberry Ah ok; I've been essentially doing the same thing; it's just when I have a bunch of design contracts that I've meticulously created and ensured compatibility between, I don't know where they should end up going; sometimes multiple classes implement them, sometimes multiple classes implement them and consume one another based on the contracts, etc.
lol @CharlesSprayberry on the Logifier, that's "classy" :P
 
@Bracketworks :P Its different
 
I created a general purpose data container; I called the interface IContainer, but I hate it because that is very likely to be confused with a DI container interface.
 
What I've gathered from some of the more experience people in the chat room I'm gonna start trying to keep my interfaces and probably abstract objects in the outer namespace with implementations being put in as a "module" of that namespace
so I could maybe add a different Logging module that uses a db connection
 
5:33 AM
That's a good suggestion; I've been pairing the interfaces and implementors in the same namespace -- moving them up a level (the interfaces) would probably prove more aesthetically pleasing.
 
Hi, do you find yourself benefiting from those namespaces much? How many namespaces is enough? I would have thought 1 per framework would be enough? What is the advantage of more?
 
@Paul However many you need to organize your code effectively, but as you can see by this conversation, I may not personally have the best grasp on it :P
 
Like, the Logger interface is \SprayFire\Logging and implementers are in \SprayFire\Logging\Logifier or maybe \SprayFire\Logging\Loggariffic later
@Paul To keep my code separated. When I want to look at Bootstrap objects I want to look at just those objects. I don't wanna sift through countless files looking for the 4-5 that really is of interest
 
Isn't the only point to avoid autoloading problems with non-unique names?
 
@Paul Normally you want a root namespace for your package, as to eliminate ambiguity between other packages \PaulsNamespace\*, anything thereafter is however you opt to organize. I find distinct roles of the system get separate namespaces \Package\Routing, `\Package\Controller`, etc.
@Paul That is a good reason for using it, but not entirely the only reason -- code organization, ambiguity elimination, autoloading simplicity, PSR-0 compatibility
 
5:36 AM
@Paul If you've done enough to avoid autoloading problems then your exact file structure is really up to you
 
@CharlesSprayberry I wouldn't say that; I'd try to follow PSR-0 autoloading standards, they hold water
 
It actually helps me with my design at times too. When I'm writing up classes I try to document @uses and type out each namespaced class that it uses. It makes me think about what I'm doing and what I'm doing it with.
@Bracketworks Fair enough.
 
@Bracketworks I'm just going to read up on PSR-0 now.
I guess I'll move over to it. I'm sure there will be clashes with my imaginatively named Data, Model, View and Controller classes. There goes another few days...
 
@Paul Hi!
and for your question, I use one namespace per framework but then i have sub-namespace for packages.
Like I have App for my framework, the the controllers are under `App\Controllers`
the de-facto parts of the framework that can't be altered are under App\Core.
 
5:53 AM
@OmeidHerat Hi! Yes, I was thinking about that. I have an abstract base class for my View. It would seem odd to call that App\View\View and then have others as App\View\View_XML or something. Or how would that work?
 
@Paul I have App\Core\View and then App\View\List.twig.html or \App\View\Someview.twig.html
All controllers are using the same view object but they pass the View type(ie. HTML,JSON,XML) and a specific view if there is more then one for that type.
I handle HTML views with Twig. it makes things pretty tidy and clean.
 
Oh, I see. All of my views extend from my base class of view though. It would seem odd to have the base class in a different namespace.
 
I only have one view. it then passes the data to Twig (HTML), JSON (just a simple method that uses json_encode).
 
I guess for me I should have App\View and App\View\XML that is starting to make sense. I'm struggling to get my head around namespaces though
 
@Paul Sounds good. Naming is always hard.
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A: Are there good techniques or tests for naming types?

gnatFor naming, there are six techniques that were proven to work for me: spend a lot of time on inventing names use code reviews don't hesitate to rename spend a lot of time on inventing names use code reviews don't hesitate to rename PS. In case if your API is going to be public, above applie...

 
6:07 AM
@Bracketworks @CharlesSprayberry @OmeidHerat You gave me the inspiration to change my framework, thanks. There is always one last change.
 
But that is a good answer
 
Actually, my class names should fit quite well with a namespace. I have always included the extended class in the derived name, so its almost as if they were namespaced already. Only all of them are in the global namespace.
ok, now to make the change. Thanks again.
 
No problem.
 
6:22 AM
I just named my primary logging class LogimusPrime ... I just got through watching Transformers. I'm debating on whether I should keep it
 
@CharlesSprayberry I wouldn't :)
 
@OmeidHerat Yea, I probably won't either
 
6:38 AM
I just got my SO stickers, yay!
 
hey guys
i'm working on a gradebook for my school
what would be the best way to organize the database for assignments, grades, and students?
 
6:50 AM
@Purmou Hey!
I would suggest you to start from this wikipedia page
 
any specific sections on that page? not enough time to read the whole thing
 
@Purmou This part is the most important.
 
skimmed it a little
so essentially, it's just minimzing redundancy and the possibility of repetition/augmentation of data on multiple rows all together?
 
@Purmou Yeah, basically.
 
yeah, that was my idea of how to deal with assignments
 
7:00 AM
and grades as well.
 
each row has student id, assignment id, and student grade (assignment name and other info would be grabbed from another table with the ID we got from the assignments table)
sound about right?
 
@Purmou Sounds good.
 
the thing that was leading me against that would be the congestion of the assignments table
but i guess i should deal with it
this will only be for 200 students maximum, so the congestion shouldn't be much of a problem
 
@Purmou I don't see any problem as Congestion in database. it's design to deal with massive amount of data.
 
though would you recommend different tables for different classes?
or just adding another column for class id in the assignments table?
 
7:03 AM
and average table of 5 Million student would be roughly about 500mb. so no big deal.
@Purmou It depends on how the exam and assignments work, is there same assignment for all classes or each has they are own ?
 
each class will have its own set of assignments
though let me explain, they're not actually assignments
they're statements, and students will have 4 attempts for each of them
statement just means an education standard
so the list is constant
but each class runs on different education standards
 
I might give you the wrong advice if I try to explicitly solve your problem as I am not well of aware of your business logic and data structure.
 
hmm
 
What I can suggest you is that, keep tables as simple as possible.
 
in any case, the wikipedia page and your previous advice were helpful
thank you
 
7:11 AM
if the statements are specific to user, you need a Statements table with a foreign key relation to student table, obviously this way you will keep the attempts value in the same table as well.
But if that is not the case, you might need to have a Statement table and a StudentAttempt table with a forgin key relation to Statement table, each attampt will have a raw contain the StatementID, userID, and the Attempt value.
@Purmou No Problem.
 
@OmeidHerat: the second case sounds like the best option for my situation
 
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7:27 AM
@OmeidHerat
teachers
id | fname | lname
subjects
id | name | grade | teacher_id
students
id | fname | lname | teacher_id
class_assignment
student_id | class_id
ican_statements
id | class_id | statement_text
attempts
student_id | ican_id | attempt_1 | attempt_2 | attempt_3 | attempt_4
 
When you paste more then one line, there is a button next to `send` and `upload..`
called `fixed font` click on that to keep the formating.
 
yeah, the text is tabbed so that it codes it
it's just failing
teachers
id | fname | lname
subjects
id | name | grade | teacher_id
students
id | fname | lname | teacher_id
class_assignment
student_id | class_id
ican_statements
id | class_id | statement_text
attempts
student_id | ican_id | attempt_1 | attempt_2 | attempt_3 | attempt_4
see?
 
You have to click on the Fixed Font button.
 
i did that
    teachers
	    id | fname | lname
    subjects
	    id | name | grade | teacher_id
    students
    	id | fname | lname | teacher_id
    class_assignment
    	student_id | class_id
    ican_statements
    	id | class_id | statement_text
    attempts
    	student_id | ican_id | attempt_1 | attempt_2 | attempt_3 | attempt_4
now we're talkin
 
Sidenote; use proper names, like firstName or FirstName.
 
7:30 AM
for sure
otherwise is that a good structure?
 
Now, Does every subject has only one teacher ?
 
yes, but certain subjects are taught multiple times
like, there are three algebra classes
taught by the same teacher but with different students
and i need the teachers to have authority over only their classes
to fill in grades
 
I would drop the teacher_id from students.
and add a new StudentSubjects tables.
 
i thought about that
would it be two columns, student id and then the second one with an array of their subject ids?
 
that contains studentID and SubjectID
 
7:33 AM
oh i see
so a row for each studen't subjects
 
I would go with multiple rows. that way it's easier to maintain.
Yes.
 
mhm, i see what we're getting at here
and then they'll all just play along together
 
Exactly.
 
oh, i already have that
classAssignments
just worded a bit badly
 
What is
   class_assignment
    	student_id | class_id
 
7:35 AM
that's the thing we're talking about
but wording was strange
 
ok. so what is that for ?
 
assigning students to certain subjects/classes
so essentially serves the same purpose as studentSubjects
i renamed it to that
 
Does each student belongs to a specific class ?
 
yes, to multiple specific classes
so basically
 
So that answer is no ?
 
7:37 AM
each teacher, in their view, will have access to each of the classes they teach
each class has an id, so it just grabs the id and gets the students who have that id assigned to them in the studentSubjects table
and then i'll use the student id that we grabbed from the student subjects table to pull up their info from attempts
 
@Purmou I don't think you have really defined the class above, only the subject which is different.
 
What is a Class ? is it the physical place they study ? or is a set of students learning a defined set of subjects ?
 
@OmeidHerat: Maybe terminology is different over there. i'm using class to refer to a certain subject taught at a certain time
so one class would be one period during school when the subject is taught to a certain set of students
 
@OmeidHerat This namespace change is huge, remind me to do it only once.
 
@Purmou No, it's not the terminology thing. as @Paul Said, there is no such thing as class there really. isn't essentially a subject thought by a specific teacher ?
 
7:41 AM
yes, that's why i'm using subject now
i think this works out perfectly
my explanation a minute ago works for what i'm trying to achieve
 
@Paul Yes the overall change is huge, even though I can't grant that you won't tweak it afterwards. :D
 
well guys, thanks for all your help!
 
no, subject and class are different things. A subject is like Maths, Science etc. Whereas a class is a specific time that a group of students meet for a subject.
 
@paul exactly
the same subject is taught at different times
which is why i was using class
let me clarify, the same subject is taught multiple times
to a different set of students
i'll probably add a "period" column to represent different times during the day
so, like, a class would "Algebra, period 2" for algebra taught during period 2
 
Yes, that makes sense, I guess the exact students attending doesn't matter
 
7:46 AM
it does matter actually...
but since each class, regardless of the period, has a different id
i just assign each student to a specific id, which assigns them to that specific class
 
@Purmou Your explanation is not complete and broke :|
Grab a paper!
and of course a pin.
 
haha
what's incomplete about it?
 
Well it's not you, it's just how this things works.
you need a rough design before putting it into a database.
So..
Write down everything about students. Class, teacher, subjects, marks, statments, time.
 
Yeah, I agree. Better to do it only once.
 
students -- classes they are in, all four attempts at the statements, first name, last name, homeroom teacher, student id
there you go, that's all
 
7:50 AM
what does your class table look like?
 
studentClasses
	student_id | class_id
 
@Purmou Ok, then define, what is a Class ? what it includes ? whats it's relation to (a?) teacher(s) and to students ?
@Purmou That is studentClasses relationship.
but yet we don't know what is a class ?
 
classes
id | name | period | teacher_id
grrrr
    classes
	    id | name | period | teacher_id
 
you are missing the subject_id?
 
don't need subject really
 
7:54 AM
There is either no ClassStudent relationship or ClassSubject. Period.
 
there isn't really a need for organizing by subject because teachers only teach classes for one subject
i don't need a classSubject relationship
 
what is it that defines a class... is it really the teacher or the subject? what if you get someone who teaches Math and Science?
 
@Purmou That is your business logic. Don't even talk about that in Database design.
 
i've said it multiple times...a class is is a session where a teacher instructs a set of students during a certain period throughout the day
 
ok, but better we give you trouble now than you find it later
 
7:57 AM
So a class is about the the teacher and set of students, What about subject? does every teacher only teaches one subject ?
 
what trouble is there?
 
@Purmou Well you kind of got mad and said. i've said it multiple times...
 
no no no, that wasn't anger
i'm very patient...and i appreciate all the help
and anyways, @OmeidHerat, some teachers teach more than one subject (but no more than 2)
 
let me put it another way... if i was to take a class... i'd be happy if i got there at the right time for the right subject... with a random teacher
but i wouldn't be happy getting there at the right time with the teacher i was expecting... but then they chose to teach me latin instead of maths
 
but the name of the class sort of dictates the subject...
actually, the name column is for the subject
the period column is for session differentiation
i'll just change name to subject
 
8:01 AM
@Paul exactly. I was going to say so the teacher itself is not a part of Class.
 
if the name is the subject then you have your duplication of data in your database
thats against the normalization principle?
 
where? there's no other subject table.
teachers
    id | firstName | lastName
classes
    id | subject | period | teacher_id
students
    id | firstName | lastName
studentClasses
    student_id | class_id
ican_statements
    id | class_id | statement_text
attempts
    student_id | ican_id | attempt_1 | attempt_2 | attempt_3 | attempt_4
this is my current structure
 
hehe, don't worry that subject will become a subject_id soon :-)
 
and teacher ahve a part in the class
that would be unnecessary creation of another table though
i'd like to be able to access the name/subject of the class right from the same sql selection
and not have the need to search another table with the id then grab the name associated with it
 
you can always do that with joins
 
8:05 AM
wellllllll
it's for uniformity, i suppose
i guess that's a good option
:P
 
as soon as you want a list of subjects... or your ican_statements with the subject listed... you will need the subject_id... anyway, that doesn't really matter
 
aha, see
 
@Purmou So what happens when you have two teachers for the same class ?
 
oh
for the love of god
the more you talk, @Paul, the more ideas you give me XD
 
how about attempt_1, 2, 3, 4 is the only important thing the number of attempts?
 
8:07 AM
so ican_statements will be associated with a subject
 
if it makes sense... is it an important feature of an ican_statement to know the subject?
 
yes
each subject has its own set of statements
 
oh yeah, you are going to be wanting that subject_id :-)
 
however, different grade levels of different subjects have a different set of statements
oh oh oh
i can change the id column of the subjects table to grades
teachers
    id | firstName | lastName
subjects
    grade | name
classes
    id | subject_grade | period | teacher_id
students
    id | firstName | lastName
studentClasses
    student_id | class_id
ican_statements
    id | subject_grade | statement_text
attempts
    student_id | ican_id | attempt_1 | attempt_2 | attempt_3 | attempt_4
s'it look about right?
an example of a row in subjects would be this
8 | Algebra I
grade 8 algebra 1
 
a grade is something else though... it doesn't uniquely identify a subject
 
8:14 AM
hmmm
 
grade 8 Algebra, grade 8 English... i'd go with id | grade_id | name (yay, another table)
 
hahahaha
that's the best option there i think
 
its getting pretty big, are you worried?
 
nah
 
what Omeid said before about two teachers taking a class is something I would worry about too... you never know when they will go on stress leave
 
8:16 AM
just a bit overwhelmed
my teacher is on maternity leave right now :P
but the long term sub wouldn't have their name put in there
the teacher's name would remain
also, i'm overhwelmed cause the most i've worked with was a simple CMS that had a members, pages, and sessions table
 
Yeah, this sort of data is the reason I wrote a framework to join all my data together... which is what i'm returning to now
 
will your framework help directly in this situation?
 
give it a bit more thought... and write it all down... is a database design a match for Code Review?
or does that belong on Programmers or something?
 
i think programmers would work better
 
I have a cool joint database model and table references and data... yeah... but... its still changing too much
 
8:23 AM
tomorrow i'm going to sit down and work out the entire system and how it should work
then write a simple database structure to dictate the requirements of the system
then give it over to programmers for suggestions
 
well... back to work for me, good luck
 
thanks for your help :)
good night!
it's half past midnight here, so imma head off
seeya guys
 
goodnight
 
thanks @OmeidHerat, g'night
 
Night :)
 
8:26 AM
Hey guys
I'm going on offtopic a bit, any of you know how to change password on stackexchange's site when you log in with Google?
 
8:38 AM
@Asko Search Meta.SE you should find something.
 
9:06 AM
@all hi
 
9:22 AM
@all any one there ?
very boring room that is ever boring room i have ever seen in so bye all
 
10:14 AM
Good morning
 
10:34 AM
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Q: Introduce a Canonical Question tag

GordonHow about introducing canonical-question to StackOverflow in order to make it easier to identify them? The general idea is to have either moderators designate individual canonicals and/or auto tag those questions which have been given most often as a possible duplicate. This would allow us to l...

didnt get much traction :/
 
11:08 AM
The following tags will be remapped to : - stackoverflow.com/tags/php/synonyms
 
@Gordon Then lets screw up everything, xdebug and phpunit should be mapped as well.
 
Nah, should me mapped to
 
@OmeidHerat xdebug and phpunit? don't think so. And Derick is taking a look from time to time on .
 
@hakre it was just sarcastic, I think shouldn't be mapped to either.
 
Probably should be mapped to I'll take a look how that tag is used
 
11:20 AM
@hakre im retagging already. changing to oop where it fits
gonna remove all php-oop tags
 
@Gordon wouldn't it be nice to put the back if the questions is strictly OOP.
 
@Gordon I'm retagging as well while reviewing what seem adequate.
 
@OmeidHerat thats what im doing
 
sweet.
 
Most of them are just , some rare are
I think should be removed or made an alias to
That's another one looking suspicious:
 
looks cleared now. Will look for now.
 
@hakre ^5
 
what is this tag ?
 
@OmeidHerat nonsense ;)
 
Should clean up the + ones at least.
retagging is fun !
 
11:44 AM
Morning!
 
Hi @Eugene
 
Hi @Donut
Is it possible to do speedtests with PhpUnit?
 
cleared.
 
In the output I would need not ..E.., but a normal sentences added by me.
 
@Eugene I don't know. but No. it shouldn't be possible.
That is what a profiler is for.
 
11:47 AM
@Eugene ping @edorian about it
 
@OmeidHerat Well profiller is more or less for seeing the calls amount, no?
Seeing the time taken is more trivial task I think.
@Gordon So @edorian huh. Okey. Will ping him.
 
@Eugene Nope, with Xdebug Profiler you can check the time as well.
 
@OmeidHerat Yeah. I know, that. What I meant is that, reading the result of the file IMO will take longer, than quickly writing in code and testing it by hand.
 
@Eugene in the meantime check github.com/edorian/phpunit-glados-listener for ideas on how to build your own listener
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