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12:01 AM
Sharks and Tigers = Awesomeness.
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A: Use image instead of labels in ggplot2 legend

MaiasauraYou're much better off using ggsave to save the figure as a eps or svg, then opening it in Illustrator (or open source equivalent) and replacing the legend with the images. If you're really dead set on doing it all in R, you can use annotation_raster in the current ggplot2 and add in some text ne...

 
12:50 AM
@iterator Hello. I came across the answer to the question on transferring files between softwares stackoverflow.com/questions/7956137/….
@iterator I would really appreciate if you could suggest if using R.matlab package may cause problems. The advantage of using mat files is that its easier to read the data into Matlab, and sometimes its difficult to read time series data into matlab with the time info. As you have mentioned that you have transferred files back and forth between different software packages, please suggest a good way to analyze same dataset partly in R and some matlab code.
 
1:42 AM
@AriB.Friedman I'm prone to working with and without an IDE. I have to say that C++ needs one, but I am not going to abandon C++.
I usually use Visual Studio for C++ code, even when the target platform is not Windows. Of course, RStudio has little resemblance to VS to me just now (after two days).
 
2:41 AM
@MatthewLundberg Being a primarily-R programmer, I often wonder what goodies are out there in IDEs for much more broadly-used programming languages
 
2:58 AM
@AriB.Friedman Visual Studio is getting better with each major release that I use. I should mention that my employer pays for an MSDN license for me, so I can use the compilers (and OS's) for no additional cost. If I had to pay the cost for MSVS out of my own pocket, things would be different.
 
This is a popular one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelliSense
Once people get going in that, they want every editor to be like that. Works wonders for the vendor as it does of course work on only one platform No price money for guessing which.
You can combine the search intellisense with various other terms (eclipse, emacs, vim, ...) to see people trying to clone it.
It's all about context sensitive, eg "class aware" for OO languages, fill in.
 
I do use Intellisense with MSVS, of course. Who doesn't?
MS guy was telling us that the Intellisense database is now (VS10) built by a different compiler, one that they bought.
 
3:17 AM
Don't take it personally, but I just stopped taking people seriously that are so wedded to one platform/toolchain.
A friend who used to work in the research group of a central bank (not the FED here) told me they could only deploy software if they could show that two alternate tool chains were available to avoid vendor lock-in. That was decades ago before open source made 'being taken hostage by a sole vendor' less of a threat but you may see the idea.
 
 
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5:47 AM
Should this be closed as it was a user issue and the question does not reflect the real issue? stackoverflow.com/questions/13137770/…
 
 
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11:10 AM
@mnel No But too late now. [ That user is particularly incapable at asking questions in a well-formulated manner. The questions are ok though. This one was a dupe though -- but not too localized for which it was closed. ]
 
11:36 AM
@Dirk. I see what you mean now. If the question was better formulated they would be more helpful to future readers. In its current state there still do much superfluous information to decipher whether it could apply to another user.
 
12:01 PM
Anyone has more insight to this question:
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Q: title size for charts.PerformanceSummary

h.l.mI'm not 100% sure if this is just a bug or some other issue but how do you change the font size of the title for outputs of charts.PerformanceSummary() from the PerformanceAnalytics package? Here is my reproducible example for what i would have hoped would have increased the font size by 6 times...

 
 
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1:15 PM
@mrdwab Not much besides the 'do not post where the package authors do not see it'. Ie for this r-sig-finance is much better than SO.
 
1:52 PM
Anyone have experience installing RMySQL with RStudio on a windows machine?
 
This chat room is not a help desk, and you know where to get (pretty good) RStudio support.
 
Wow, you know what I know, that's pretty impressive :P
 
We have a mind reading machine here. It works really well.
 
Also, congratulations, that is the most unhelpful and unfriendly response I've ever gotten from stackoverflow. Your name is recorded in the annals.
 
Consider the room invitation only. You don;t have one, and comments like this will ensure you won't get one.
This is a resource for contributors. What have you done for the [r] tag on StackOverflow, or the R community at large?
 
1:56 PM
Dirk's name really is recorded in the annals ... as having given more help to R users than any other SO contributor to date ;)
 
Which, truth be told, I only did so that I would get the freedom to behave like a prick in the chat room. Mission accomplished!
 
I don't doubt that... I have met other supercontributors that are equally unhelpful, so know the type.
 
I'm going to stick my neck out here and suggest that Dirk is being a tad harsher than necessary. It's true that we try to discourage question asking in chat, but I don't think we need to be quite that abrupt about it.
 
Normally, if it's really a simple task, people are willing to help out.
 
@rschwieb Leave now, or risk being blocked.
 
1:58 PM
Can you recommend a better cha tot ask in? It's really too awkward to troubleshoot in posts because of their timing
 
Seriously: for RStudio question, try the RStudio forums. Those guys are good. Also google for RMysql and R and a gazillion problems.... especially on Windows.
 
Ah, so that's what you meant
 
Then, if you still get stuck, post a question on SO with details about what you've tried and what the problem is.
 
OK, well that fortunately is helpful advice at least. It beats dredging dozens of pages with incomplete, half-applicable instructions telling you to install 50 things.
 
Yep. Now let us have our little backchatter here, and ask well-formed questions on the front page. We don't usually leave those hanging.
 
2:00 PM
@Spacedman official response is now up: Use Sys.sleep(0). Here's my take on it: stackoverflow.com/a/13159686/636656 . Seems to be about the number of calls to plot rather than the amount of data (at least for small amounts of data).
 
I have a simple rule: Avoid Windows. Makes things work wonderfully.
 
Enjoy your super secret exclusive club Dirk ol' boy. Sorry to rob you of your power trip by leaving voluntarily...
 
Always a pleasure. And you just ensured that I won't go out of my way answering your questions. Enjoy.
 
2:16 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel I really am going to push back a little here. I agree with the sentiment, but not the tone. I think it's fine to redirect people other places when they come to chat looking for help, but I don't think we need to be quite that abrupt about it. Just my opinion.
 
R-Team! To the close button! stackoverflow.com/questions/13159785/…
 
@joran I've been here a little longer than you, and like the room the way it is. I also happen to have started it, but that does not give me more than one vote. You're free to disagree and be all kind and gentle. There is room for both types of us :)
And I am free to leave here too if I no longer like it. Options are good to have.
 
Anyone have experience of installing RPostgresQL with Emacs/ESS on an OpenSolaris machine?
I need to write an R package to produce random q's like that. I'll call it library(annoydirk)
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2:34 PM
:-)
Ya ya ya :)
But by implying OpenSolaris you give away that it is fake. Proof: Only BDR uses OpenSolaris. But BDR asks no question. A question was asked, hence no BDR and no Solaris. QED. Or something.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel I'm not really looking for an argument here. I just felt that this in particular: "This is a resource for contributors. What have you done for the [r] tag on StackOverflow, or the R community at large?" was uncalled for, enough that I felt the need to say something out loud (type out loud?). If I'm really all alone in disagreeing with that sentiment here, that will make me rather sad, but c'est la vie. I've said my peace and am willing to drop it.
 
s/peace/piece/
That "uncalled" for wedge was to make sure he really left. Sometimes you need to go nuclear.
 
I can't decide whether to whinge about the fact that this conference abstract submission template says one thing but actually does something else. "base font should be Times New Roman 11pt" - and its actually 12pt, except the bibliography that is actually in 11pt....
and it disagrees with itself about the size of various other things too
 
:shrug: Therein lies our disagreement.
 
Whats the phrase: you attract more flies with sugar than vinegar - but who the heck wants flies in R chat anyway?
 
2:45 PM
@joran You're not totally alone but ... that particular use really ramped up the invective fast. I'm looking at the comment above the one you quoted, which came after Andrie had already softened the tone a bit. All in all, I'm glad he's gone.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel <- there you did give the best advice. ask well-formed questions.
 
@Spacedman Pst. You are distracting from the notion that I only ever yell rudely at people.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Good point; I'll add that suggestion as a comment for the OP.
 
@Spacedman That reminds me of one of my favorite sentences: "Fruit flies like a banana."
 
@mrdwab It never helps. I told people for years to bring Rcpp questions to rcpp-devel. Doesn't happen. SO has pretty good Google juice so many end up on SO.
 
2:57 PM
@joran "and time flies like like an arrow."
 
@JoshO'Brien Indeed, I always forget the first half.
 
@Spacedman Surely, if the purpose is to annoy @DirkEddelbuettel, you'd call it library(annoy_dirk2)?
 
@Andrie It never occurred to me until your comment, but I can't find a single package with an underscore in the name. Are they not permitted?
 
Probably not.
But I can't find a reference to this in the manuals.
 
3:25 PM
I hereby offer a beer [delivered at a useR! conference near you] to whoever first gets a package named _2 onto CRAN.
 
3:51 PM
Hah:
Data analyst is becoming the sexiest job. It's a pity that most enterprises do not want to pay for sex... #datamining #analytics
 
@JoshuaUlrich that was fast. can't swoop in and claim the credit.
 
i'm trying to connect to a database over a VPN connection.
Does it make sense to set up the VPN using R?
Or is it better to set it up in Windows first, then simply connect to the database using R?
 
4:32 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel I'll double that if the package is called annoydirk_2
 
We could start a wiki page to establish specs: a) must depend on at least half a dozen packages replicating existing base functionality, b) must be written in Java, or alternatively work only on Windows, c) must have a really annoying startup message you cannot suppress. What else?
 
@DirkEddelbuettel speed?
 
Pastels.
 
Must link to a windows binary that's not available on CRAN.
Ponies
 
@Andrie Pastel colored ponies.
 
4:42 PM
@JoshuaUlrich Here you go:
 
Exactly.
 
this chat room has officially jumped the multicolored pastel shark
also, I refuse to accept any artwork for this contest not created with a package written by hadley_2
 
What happened to the chat room police?
 
/me looks over shoulder and shrugs
 
4:47 PM
@Andrie He's drinking coffee and eating donuts.
 
5:09 PM
@JoshuaUlrich close, but it appears to be made with pencil-on-paper
 
wow - are all of you guys suffering from a halloween candy induced sugar high? looks like it's been quite lively in here this AM...
 
Hi guys, thank-you very much for your help over the last two weeks in learning R. It was very fun and I really enjoyed it. R seems to me to be a excellent for data-mining, which is what I was doing the last two weeks, for a Kaggle competition. I got 11th out of 107, which is not too bad, and is massively thanks to R, and to your help. I look forward to the next time I get an opportunity/excuse to use R.
 
@HughPerkins Had you won, I hope you know that you're required to share the prize with us.
 
:-D
"Luckily" for me I don't have to face this conundrum :-D
 
 
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9:04 PM
That moment when you have a question, search on SO and find that a younger you already told that to someone else years ago...
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