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12:02 AM
wow I've managed to link to a MSVC .lib. Praise the COFF!
fckn magic
g++ -I%CUDA_PATH%\include -std=c++14 -Wall -pedantic main.cpp -L%CUDA_PATH%\lib\x64 -lopencl && a
and it just works
 
12:54 AM
@CaptainGiraffe are you really thin with really long neck?
 
1:05 AM
@jaggedSpire seems accurate
 
@Borgleader dammit
 
1:47 AM
@R.M ISTR you liked those.
 
2:03 AM
should a toggle button be different to a switch?
if so in what ways?
 
A muggle bottom, or a bitch, 's what on
 
please keep the discussion civil
 
militarize everything!
 
2:57 AM
really hate it when you reset your password and it can only be sent to your email address, I would like an option for it to be sent to a registered mobile number
 
That isn't that much more secure, you know.
Eg, I managed to get someone's phone number by simply walking up, and claiming a lost phone.
(And that in Australia, of all places)
Recommendation: Do everything you can to ensure that your email is securely setup (Encrypted server-server communications can be done).
- Much more important is to ensure that your account itself can't be taken over, that's harder.
- Then request the reset.
- As soon as you get that reset, change it to something else you have control over.
 
3:12 AM
I no longer have access to that email address
also, you can only claim a lost number if you have their full name, address and date of birth
 
I wish. I knew the person's name, but didn't need to provide any other details.
Maybe I seemed "trustworthy".
My collegues at work who use 2FA and all that (eg, using Authy), were a bit spooked when they found out.
 
I am amazed that the telco didn't get sued
 
Well, the person of interest was my wife, and I had her full permission - the telco had no way of knowing that, though.
 
you have to have power of attorney in that case, unless it's a joined account
 
I'm aware of all this. But the fact was - that particular sales guy didn't do his due diligence, and there were apparently no measures in place to ensure that the staff do so.
 
3:18 AM
but then again, lost phone may be different, it's like lost card
all they have to do is locking it down
 
Yeah, the phone was lost. (Lost in a river, to be exact), but I was getting a replacement SIM for that specific number, as a replacement.
 
in your name I assume?
 
No, wierdly. In her name.
In her maiden name, too.
 
lol, I have NEVER encountered such a slack security checking process
 
Anyway, in theory, mobile numbers "should" be more secure, and "should" have processes that ensure that people can't just arbitrarily get someone's number. But the reality is different.
You can't assume that other people have the same lack of opportunities you have.
 
3:22 AM
usually they require full name, date of birth and address ... some also send code to my mobile for verification purposes in addition
 
Sure - usually.
 
but then again, with replacement send to the registered address, they don't really face too much risk, plus you are required to show your ID when picking it up from the post office
 
No, they handed it over the counter.
 
without seeing your ID at all?
 
Yep.
 
3:34 AM
I find it a bit hard to believe ...
 
Granted, that sales guy was very likely 100% in the wrong there, but that doesn't avoid the issue.
Do you really believe that every employee of every telco is a 100% upstanding citizen, doing everything by the book and following all the checks for 100% of all transactions?
 
no, but I believe that they do get some sort of training and understand the risk of getting sacked if they don't follow the procedure and when something goes wrong
 
For all I know, the dude was a casual.
Anyway, what happened is fact. You seem to be shocked that someone, somewhere on the planet this happens. Get over it.
 
Speaking of telco, I recently dropped TPG - I was on their $1 a month plan to keep a rarely used number. They end up charging me $10 a month, when questioned, they sent me a new sim and upon activation, they charged me $10 a month. So I dropped TPG and ported the number to Telstra. I could report them to telco ombudsman, but it's only a couple of hundred of dollars over a few years & I did use the number once in a while to check messages, so ...
 
How far west are counties and unitary authorities in England and Wales? https://t.co/aU18YSppST
 
3:43 AM
@Arafangion I don't care, it's your security at risk not mine
I use 2 level authentication whenever I can
 
4:21 AM
Telkitty: If you say so.
 
I just changed my pre-compiled header, its all over
 
RIP in Pieces
really though
you have plenty of time to get some peaceful rest now
 
5:30 AM
@Telkitty ..and oldest woman: 73 1/2 years.
 
way more than quarter of a century, chances are good!
always think the positive (albeit irrelevant) side
 
@sehe Come and lurk, it is free
 
6:12 AM
I feel like a sleep and it's the perfect time for one
Night all
 
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8:13 AM
@EtiennedeMartel number of "brilliant maps" in this vain recently jakubmarian.com/population-per-capita-by-country-in-europe
@Arafangion well...
@Arafangion the fact that you didn't follow up with telco, and optionally press kind of clears of that label :)
 
@sehe this one is quite emerald, not brilliant :P
 
Oz, that you?
 
I am a humble Santa Claus, sir. Ho-ho. Ho!
 
And out of season
 
always out of season! you people are too picky
 
8:20 AM
does Santa Claus lose weight during summer?
 
> Alas, can't use [[deprecated]] in VS due to bugs
Code review comment
 
o.O Don't use MSVC [[deprecated]]
5
 
Mar 20 at 3:32, by Telkitty
I hope deprecated functions have clearer marks on them - deprecated_recent, deprecated_still_works, deprecated_warning & deprecated_crashes
 
(To be fair, MSVC keeps being relevant, though it manages to keep being annoying)
@Telkitty those are not deprecation "levels" or "reasons".
Nobody ever needs a "deprecated_crashes". That's useless in any context.
 
@sehe Pretty sure some idiot needs it for some idiocy.
Anyway, arbitrary strings is the proper way to do it.
 
8:24 AM
for debugging purposes probably
 
Further, levels already exist, for example deprecated for security reasons
 
you would want to know why your code crashes
 
I find that knowing the alternative is more useful than knowing why it's deprecated.
 
Ven
Hi
 
8:40 AM
@Telkitty So informative "You code is crashing because it uses code that crashes"
That sucks quite heavily
 
to see how that's helpful, you need to think like a newbie
not everyone have 10+ years programming experiences
 
No, you don't. Newbies need to learn. Everyone else needs to get shit done.
If it helps getting shit done, it's helpful.
 
Ven
It's helpful, but I wish I'll never have to work with you.
 
8:59 AM
O(n) vs O(1) for if/switch-based answers. — cyanbeam 2 hours ago
wtf are they on about!?
@Mysticial if it wasnt for downvotes, I'd have great answer badge now
 
the person probably thinks 'if' has O(n) coz needs to test 1 by 1 & O(1) for switch statement coz jump instead of traversing
@R.MartinhoFernandes if it helps newbies to learn?
 
switch is O(1) or O(log n) depending on the range and density of the cases.
 
it can also be O(n) as well, when it doesn't bother with the bin search
 
@ratchetfreak Why would it do that? Very small number of cases?
 
user1804599
9:14 AM
@fredoverflow so it's always O(log n)
 
Using a for loop is actually bad as it has O(n) running time as opposed to O(1) for a lookup table/hashtable method. For 8 iterations it might not look that bad but when scaled up to say 1 million iterations it's actually very bad. — cyanbeam 57 secs ago
@cyanbeam the for loop is just the "demo", the function is what I'm proposing... — Borgleader 14 secs ago
./facepalm
 
@fredoverflow yeah, bin search with its branchy nature sucks for cache prediction,
 
@ratchetfreak Ah, because a non-covered case always has the same path through the code in O(n) switch, but different paths in O(log n) switch? makes sense
I literally thought I saw the Konami Code in place of the enum there for a second. — Zano May 25 at 21:20
lol
 
uh go boards are so expensive
 
9:19 AM
Here's a free Go board: forum.golangbridge.org
 
@fredoverflow for local games that's not even remotely comparable
physical boards are much more convenient
 
You did not click the link, did you? ;)
 
I didn't
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can get really cheap ones.
But they're cheap.
 
the set I'm looking at now is around 50€
 
9:22 AM
Like plastic and shit.
 
with a few tools you can make one yourself
 
@ratchetfreak I don't think that's even remotely viable TBH
 
a slab of wood, a router/chisel and a good finish
 
the best ones are made from agate
the mid-range ones are glass
the crappy ones are obv. plastic
 
That's not boards.
 
9:24 AM
yeah I meant sets really
I need both
 
the stones can be tricky to shape indeed
 
Also gosu, but those aren't that expensive
 
Is the money really a problem? Just buy the damn board
 
FWIW, plastic stones are fine. Don't shell out for expensive ones unless you're planning to do this seriously.
 
or make a program to play on
 
9:26 AM
I bought a set for my roommate a few years ago, nice wooden board, wooden stone bowls, but plastic stones, and that went over 100 euros already.
 
@Telkitty Let them use PHP, sounds like a match made in heaven
 
this is bamboo + jujube + glass
 
@sehe no prejudice against programming language kz
love & peace
even for javascripts
 
@BartekBanachewicz Bamboo is cheap wood.
 
9:34 AM
@FilipRoséen-refp has become our resident power-lurker, in loving memory of @Praetorian, RIP
 
What is wrong with cheap? It is a board to play on with a bunch of rocks.
 
morning
 
@Horttanainen I didn't say there was anything wrong. Just that the set he posted was cheaper than mine because bamboo is cheap.
 
ah okay
 
SBM
hello; good afternoon
 
9:41 AM
@Horttanainen But cheap can be bad: e.g., you don't want the rocks to damage the board after a couple of games.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nah. I want things to wear. That way I don't have to worry about the board
I bought couple of bekant tables form ikea a month ago. They are already scratched all over. I refuse to be owned by things I buy
 
@fredoverflow Looks really nice to me
 
@Horttanainen I just don't spend time scratching my tables.
(Why would that happen?)
 
9:46 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes They get scratched if you dont constantly watch were you put down you stuff
 
Ok, sure.
vOv
 
I've had an ikea taable for three years and it might have minor scratches but nothing that affects me in any way
 
@Horttanainen good materials wear out in a much nicer way
 
On that #shopping craving, do you guise have any recommendation for wireless headphones for sport (so sweat resistant and the like)?
 
I can't remember last time I scratched a table by putting stuff on it.
And I'm all careless and clumsy.
 
9:48 AM
@fredoverflow that's a rag, not a board
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe you're also forgetful?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I actually did scratch my desk when i placed my workstation on it during the weekend :/
 
SBM
:|
 
the rubber stomps it had accumulated some shit and when i moved it around it just screeched
but then again those desks cost less than a go board so
 
@BartekBanachewicz That is just the thing. Why the sad face? Does the scratch really matter? Aren't things meant to be used?
 
9:50 AM
@Horttanainen there's a difference between slow and steady deterioration and ruining the surface because you didn't check the legs of the box like an idiot
if you can easily avoid the damage, there's no reason to not do that
double important in doing stuff in cars
 
@BartekBanachewicz This is exactly what I am talking about. I do try to check that I am not deliberately damaging the table, but I will not mind if I accidentally do
@BartekBanachewicz This is what I hate about people and cars
 
SBM
What?
 
Imagine if we handled apartments as we handle cars
 
@Horttanainen What is wrong with liking things that look nice?
 
also OMFG LEELA IS FREE NOW
 
9:53 AM
@Horttanainen You mean throw them against each other on the road?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :D
Yes
 
(context: this is a brilliant software I used for years. I wanted to buy the full version recently, but the sales were stopped for a year or so. And now it's free.)
@Horttanainen what do you mean?
 
@Horttanainen If you think people are squishy about damaging cars, you need to spend some time in a garage.
 
My 2kg hammer confirms
 
When car gets a teeny tiny scratch it needs to get repaired and polished. When somebody scratches a apartment wall while moving nobody minds
 
9:54 AM
> it needs to get repaired and polished
nah not really no
that's why I drive a car that costs less than my monthly salary
 
That is what I have observed
 
@Horttanainen I think you're just experiencing selection bias.
 
If I'd own a car I would certainly not mind the tiny scratches
 
@Horttanainen Plenty of people don't.
The difference is that they're not the ones showing off their cars (duh), so you don't notice them as much.
 
But many do. These people get eventually owned by the things they own
 
9:57 AM
Whatever that means.
 
well a car is typically the most expensive possesion people have
at least here, to buy a car requires months if not years of planning ahead
 
When you cant use that new coffee table because you are afraid that it might get ruined
 
yeah I also think it's kinda silly
 
Yeah, but most people aren't like that.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That is why I choose the apartment as an example.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think most are
 
9:59 AM
@Horttanainen Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're wrong.
 
I have to go get lunch.
 
@Horttanainen It's a terrible example.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Never!
 
@Horttanainen I'd disagree as well
 
SBM
have a great lunch
 
9:59 AM
If they're moving out, of course they don't give a fuck.
 
SBM
did you misspell duck?
 
No, I didn't.
 
people who are pedantic about cars and fix every single thing are probably less than 1%
most of them just don't give a fuck as long as it runs
 
SBM
oh
 
10:01 AM
@stefanusdutoit They haven't got all day! (SCNR)
Sometimes feeding into stereotyping is just too much fun
 
SBM
whatever that word is it just sounds weird
 
@BartekBanachewicz years
 
@Horttanainen With the cars, I'm pretty confident that's not the case. Source: I worked at a garage. I've seen the people who don't give a fuck.
 
@BartekBanachewicz woah that's. Cheap. Do you still trust it (how)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes as a funny counterexample, there's a lot of older people in my neighbourhood with settled lifes and garages and they often take out those small cars out and wash them and have the old guy talks :D
I've noticed because I've been spending a lot laying outside underneath my Peugeot lately
@sehe it's a VW, duh.
 
SBM
10:03 AM
VW?
 
You know, the cheating s/w
 
SBM
I guess that's some car brand
 
also my Honda was way more expensive so maybe I'm not the best example here
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well. Same question. Or: your monthly salary is too dam high :)
 
@SBM Is that rock comfy?
 
10:04 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes to be fair, the cars most likely to need to go to the garage are the ones were the owner don't care about it
They only take it because they have to and cba to sort shit themselves
 
people who care about their cars will likely have them lasting longer
 
@thecoshman ... by going to the garage often.
The opposite makes them last less.
 
@sehe it's not :) but still, I got a rather base model from 2000 (so e.g. no electric windows, no electric mirrors, no turbo), so there's really not much to break
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not if you care enough to look after them
 
10:05 AM
@thecoshman Right, they take it because they have to, as opposed to because they want to.
 
Initial costs after I got it were about 50% of initial price (two sets of tyres, insurance, all liquids and filters) (which I wasn't counting in the initial statement and probably should)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think there are many people who are hyprocodriacts with their cars :P
 
@thecoshman I know. That was my point.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that doesn't mean they don't car
I really like my computer, but I don't go to the extreme of deep cleaning it every week
 
@sehe but still, I'd take it anywhere, it runs great, takes pretty much 0 oil, I'm its second owner after it got brought back here from germany and was used by a guy born in 1950s there.
 
10:07 AM
@thecoshman Nonono, we were talking about people who wouldn't even turn it on for fear of making it dirty. You're way too far from that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah yeah
no, that's rare
that's for the land of the super rich who can afford cars to sit around to be driven once every five years
for nearly every one, cars are a tool
 
SBM
oh
 
Some idiot registered a google email account and used my email as the backup email address.
 
SBM
10:17 AM
RIP
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think this kind of incident is a first.
Usually it's just idiots giving my email address instead of their own.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes smooth
 
well it's just where they gave this address
 
user1804599
Don't have a common name, problem solved
 
SBM
10:21 AM
And GMail is a bit weird
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes this kind?
 
Ven
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@rightfold Mohammad
 
11:16 AM
@fredoverflow Nice
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maybe this is just their way of making you a sort of executor of their will
@R.MartinhoFernandes Could be a compliment
I am not getting clearly what you want.. contact me.. — Nagaraj Pujar 5 hours ago
I'll pass
 
lolwut?
Why would anyone ask that?
 
"ask"
 
Oh, female avatar?
Btw, @BoundaryImposition, you haven't updated your pyramid site with the new avatar.
Makes it look kinda sketchy this way.
 
hahaha
SketchyCheops would be a nice username
 
11:26 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes In my case, I inherited a university email address that the previous owner still uses to rent RV lots ^^;
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That description makes this an instance of the same, really.
 
@BoundaryImposition no, it's make.
 
11:41 AM
I'm not looking forward to the next phase of my project. Parsing recursive grammar in an iterative way takes some foreplanning and many example parsers assume I don't mind stack overflows (I think recursive descent is the term for the ones I see a lot).
 
You can just make the stack explicit and call it a day.
 
I was wondering why you can't just keep pushing stuff onto some structure
 
@Aaron3468 you... inherited a university email address? lolwtf
@Aaron3468 but also wow @ some idiot thinking he gets a free email address for life and not bothering to read simple instructions what was presumably a long time ago! And has he not wondered why he never gets replies? How does he check his mail? Are there no error messages??
> BA blames a power cut, but a corporate IT expert said it should not have caused "even a flicker of the lights" in the data-centre. Even if the power could not be restored, the airline's Disaster Recovery Plan should have whirred into action. But that will have depended in part on veteran staff with knowledge of the complex patchwork of systems built up over the years. Many of those people may have left when much of the IT operation was outsourced to India.
ahhhhh....
anyone seen "please sir i have a doubt can u help me to get ba systems back online thanks in advanced" on SO over the weekend?
 
12:02 PM
@BoundaryImposition I was as surprised when I got the first email intended for them. The university generates emails according to name and mine is unique enough that it needed no numbers to disambiguate. Their name is similar, but indicates the generator was slightly different in the past. I presume they're alumni and the email address was deleted for a long time before I received it.
I highly doubt they have access to the account now, and I have no messages accessible prior to receiving it.
@BoundaryImposition Ah, that explains it. Power outage + people who don't know how to boot all the proprietary software and servers = enormous mess.
I wonder if they'll get a class action lawsuit for cutting staffing to the bare minimum.
 
@BoundaryImposition I was reading this with thick Indian accent.
 
@wilx Me too
 
lol
@Aaron3468 "mine is unique enough that it needed no numbers to disambiguate" lol appaz not
my uni would put year number on each address. simples
@wilx I thought you might. Thanks for clearing my concept!
"hello sir what is main differences between Airline and Data Centre pls kindly respond quickly as its urgent ,,,,thx"
 
@BoundaryImposition "I am new into this.."
 
12:17 PM
:D
hopefully this'll trigger a review of the common practice of outsourcing to cut costs
monkeys peanuts etc
 
@BoundaryImposition what's ,,,,?
 
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A: What is your best programmer joke?

Galwegian“Knock, knock.” “Who’s there?” very long pause…. “Java.” :-o

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@BoundaryImposition Will BA get any of that sweet Brexit money? Sounds like they need it.
 
@BoundaryImposition kinda. Unique in the new system, not unique in the history of the system. And my name is quite unique from theirs, but they mapped to the same address using the respective version of the system.
 
@BoundaryImposition Mine just used your student ID as the email address.
 
12:26 PM
@BoundaryImposition It probably will, and perhaps even make policy. But companies will continue to cut every possible corner for profit.
I'll be honest, the comp sci department isn't particularly big here :) years and id numbers are both better solutions
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's your opinion on that giant divorce bill the EU is apparently asking for?
 
@Puppy I might have been out of the loop for a couple of weeks.
 
must say that I can't understand why the EU thinks we should pay them money or indeed, why we ever would pay them that kind of money unless they make some big concessions in the future relationship which they don't even want to talk about
 
@Horttanainen That Perl comment is gold
 
@Rerito which one?
 
12:31 PM
@Puppy wait, what?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It was in the news a few months ago.
 
Go -f>@+?*<.-&'_:$#/%! yourself! — Schwern Feb 18 '09 at 6:50
 
@Rerito :D :D
 
@Puppy funfact, ftfy
 
12:34 PM
@Puppy Oh, that's not a divorce bill. It's basically whatever bill you folks racked up so far. Settling the account.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Seems to me that it's the bill the EU racked up so far, and then they want us to pay a share of their future liabilities
but logically, if the EU wants us to take a share of their liabilities, we should also get a share of their assets.
 
@Puppy To be clear, the EU has not asked for anything. All those numbers are just estimates circulating from outside sources.
 
well, I noticed that everybody seems to disagree on what the exact figure is
but nobody seems to disagree that they will ask for a pretty large sum
I think the lowest estimate was £10bn
 
That's just 30 weeks of NHS :P
 
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12:37 PM
lol
in any case, I don't really see why the UK should pay a penny, the EU took on those liabilities and it's their responsibility
 
@Puppy Er, the UK took on those liabilities as a member.
You don't get excused because you bailed before the bill.
 
well I must admit that I have not read the treaties in detail
but so far as I understand it, being a member means you pay in the budget, and then you receive benefits
it doesn't entail some kind of partial ownership thing
 
I don't know exactly what amounts to <whatever figure>. I only know it's made up of debts, pensions and other bills that haven't been paid yet.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes just another deluded brexiter without any sense of logic
 
12:44 PM
@BoundaryImposition Puppy's definitely not a "Brexiter".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes then he should stop acting like one :P
 
 
How to force people to read anything
 
Whoa. Calm down big boy. Nobody was talking about force.
Well, ...
 
12:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't know what the figure is either. But, I think that some sort of partial-ownership thing would also imply that the UK should get a fair share of the EU's assets, no?
 
@Puppy After a quick lookup: there's a collective debt of ~200bn, of which the UK's share is ~25bn.
 
@Puppy mostly the land & the people, presumably. we’re not keeping them
 
well, I was thinking about things like buildings
 
That should be peanuts.
 
probably
 
12:50 PM
I don't think the collective assets are significant.
 
I wonder if there are any valuable contractual assets
maybe we should ask to be 12% still in the single market? ;p
 
@Puppy Yeah, all the important assets are intangible. "Emergent behaviour" from the Union.
 
wankers
 
Wankers of Solitude
 
speaking of, we only accept tangible monies
 
12:54 PM
heh
 
@Puppy Why 12, btw?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's our budget contribution %.
 
so whatever the liabilities that you calculate are, we owe at most 12% of them in the absolute worst case, I think
hmm
 
@Puppy Not quite. If some of those commitments are pre-expansion, the share should be larger.
 
12:56 PM
all the liabilities we have to pay for, they're all nicely tangible and quantified, and all the assets we want to keep, are nicely intangible
 
no backsies!!
 
@Puppy Basically, you owe however much you committed to pay.
 
am definitely feeling that we should hold out for some nice single market access
@R.MartinhoFernandes I would consider it as that we committed to pay the EU for as long as we were in it, and then if the EU wants to take on some liabilities, that's their decision. I'm not sure if we commit to pay the liabilities directly.
 
@Puppy I'm not talking about recurring payments. These are agreements with absolute numbers in them that were signed.
"We agree to pay 10 out of those 60 monies" sorta thing. You just haven't paid them yet.
 
hm
I guess I'm surprised that there are individual direct treaties paying for specific liabilities
 

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