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1:01 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not sure what I like most, Joe Biden memes or Tiny Trump photoshops...
 
1:33 AM
Hmm, is there something like CSV but that opens correctly when wide characters are inserted?
 
1:47 AM
hee hee
> English isn't a language, it's three languages stacked on top of each other in a trenchcoat.
 
2:04 AM
Lol, this would be an amazing bday present
 
2:27 AM
@rightfold by scamming the military you promote world peace
 
3:02 AM
@jaggedSpire And which one is the third depends on where you're from!
 
 
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4:20 AM
Should I use a recursive mutex or do I just suck at programming?
 
 
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Q: using switch case to slove some programming problems

Precious Breedevelop a simple calculator to allow the user enter any two integers and an operator.the calculator should be able to compute the result and display the output depending on the users choice of operator.your program should have a menu to advice the users on the types of operators allowed NOTE:the ...

This is a strange combination of tags...
 
5:36 AM
haha what
 
6:19 AM
that's what I thought
 
6:54 AM
Is that kind of bullshit question spam automatically generated?
 
7:46 AM
is there a native winapi for the EVP of openssl or what is the closest to it?
I know I can compile openssl on windows, but I was wondering what is used for example on winhttp that allows it to do the whole ssl communication for example
 
so I take that there is no library exclusive for the SSL encryption etc?
rr I mean that replicates the Envelope
 
Well there is a the Crypto API (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_CryptoAPI) but I typically use Qt for everything, except in the class where I taught VHDL/Verilog.
 
I see, I was looking at the CryptoAPI and I was completely lost on which functions I would need to use to replicate an outer rsa with inner sha256 + hmac. I was looking for perhaps some samples but also failing to search for the right terms
more specifically this wiki.openssl.org/index.php/…
 
Why not use openssl?
 
user1804599
8:00 AM
@StackedCrooked Corruption.
 
I did like something more natively to windows, to avoid several certificates issues and as well as having to manually load it to the store from the openssl side which is a pain.
Using OpenSSL for example I need to read my pem into a bio then add it to the store, while natively I don't have to touch any of it for example
 
I would encourage you to check out Qt's implementation, but I'll defer to the experience of somebody who know what they are talking about.
you can also load certificates from a DER (binary) or PEM (Base64) encoded bundle, typically stored as one or more local files, or in a Qt Resource.
Hell, you can even distribute the pem in a easy to reverse engineer binary resource! Or host it online!
 
yes, but I did like to avoid having to load something that doesn't need to be.
I don't know how winhttp does its process, but using it I don't need to touch a thing
but in short I would like to know how it does it, what are the methods and stuff connected to make it work.
That's the point I don't want to have to distribute or run into issues because of pem/der files. Just want it all to work right out the box without having to further worry with it, like winhttp does.
 
... qt..., you can static build and LTO will narrow the exe down to about 2 megs. This is what I did for piece of software that included a back-end to a web service...
 
it turned more into a curiosity now to find out and learn it using crypto api hehe
 
8:12 AM
Yeah, and I'm just talking about stuff I don't know about because any time I make a minor change in a heading file it takes about four minutes to see the result.
 
and I think I just found my answer hehe
 
8:30 AM
first commute - check
it's super windy
 
8:52 AM
huh, I guess I can’t if constexpr in mem-init-lists. another case of hasty statement syntax I suppose
 
@BogdanMarginean yeah lol
 
9:13 AM
Also in "things I wrote in 2013"
throw std::logic_error("Can't determine impact subvoxel because the ray is not hitting the voxel");
fun
 
9:39 AM
> error: 'optional' does not name a type; did you mean 'optind'?
 
9:51 AM
@BartekBanachewicz The extra space in the middle triggers my OCD.
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@wilx Your use of the term "triggers my OCD" triggers my OCD
 
@thecoshman Your triggering of your OCD triggers my middle finger.
:D
 
Heterosexual couple lose civil partnership challenge http://bbc.in/2lq2jg7
 
On a different note, our dependency management seems to be horrible.
 
> Rebecca Steinfeld and Charles Keidan, from London, challenged a ruling that they could not have a civil partnership because they did not meet the legal requirement of being the same sex.
not sure if it's good or not
 
9:59 AM
@Abyx lol, I was thinking the same. Hence no comment yet. :)
 
Well, kind of shows how same sex marriage isn't treated the same, if it was, heterosexual marriage and civil partnership would be the same
 
abolishing marriage would be a much better way
just let anyone do that civil partnership thing and everything's fine
it's not like there's a significantly lower rate of divorce in the straight catholically married couples :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz You mean renaming it, then?
 
^ that
 
Because that's all that is. It's not abolishing it.
 
10:12 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes pretty much. If that's what it takes to make it universally available to everyone
 
10:29 AM
@sehe hey, template code is not supposed to be legible and make sense. what is this witchcraft? nice.... is this snippet open to use lol — Garet Claborn 1 hour ago
@BartekBanachewicz all those numbers are gonna be skewed as hell. If getting registered partnership (whatever shape or form) takes a lot of resolve to begin with, then I wager the people going through the trouble have above-average commitment to begin with.
(And there will be the reverse effect: we want "in" on this new legal possibility, without actually considering what it takes; I wager that laziness of people will prevail, so I reckon the bias for strongly committed couples is winning here)
 
@sehe or they get peer pressured into a registered partnership
 
^ beat you to it
I suppose people who care to be openly non-conformist are less easily peer-pressured into most things, anyways.
But yeah, reverse psychology happens in all sub-denominations.
 
@sehe They can be easily peer-pressured into the "mainstream" alternatives.
 
Yeah. That happens all the time. Again, influencing (flattering? skewing?) statistics on all sides
@Code-Apprentice We should signal @ProblemSlover
@rightfold Huh. What cpy would that be anyways
 
@LucDanton I'm pretty sure Bjarne warned about this vOv
 
user1804599
10:44 AM
@sehe the evil one
 
who has pinged ProblemSlover..
M r ProblemSlover got a load problems in his pants today
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes okay but I feel it would be a bit disingenuous unless advocating for a constexpr conditional expression (being semi-serious)
 
wtf
it this meant to make it "worse SO" even more blatantly
 
user1804599
If anything, that site is not about engineering lol
 
user1804599
It's the programmers' bikeshed
 
10:53 AM
@BartekBanachewicz they changed their name to avoid being the toilet bowl that programmers.SE was
 
user1804599
Bikeshedding about awful :hooman: ideas that shouldn't be used in the first place
 
@ratchetfreak lol what a way
have they thought about actually not being a toilet bowl for once
dunno, maybe it's actually good for SO that such a cesspit exists
at least that's one place where Puppy can answer with his bad opinions happily
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unfortunately a cesspit like that requires constant cleaning
 
user1804599
It doesn't, much like you don't clean the sewer.
 
and the people doing the cleaning tend to complain about all the muck coming in
 
user1804599
10:57 AM
You need a shitsink somewhere, Software Engineering is it.
 
user1804599
It's like the bin rooms on chat.
 
those rockers are really interesting
 
@rightfold ? please be more unspecific. I have a feeling this is going to be some alt-fact
 
@rightfold but there is a proper path for a crap question, close and delete, in chat there is not really an option for getting rid of messages that don't involve mod flags
 
> each part of the valve – stem end, stem and disk – must be given a different type of treatment. Because of this, each valve is sent to two different countries for processing in specialist facilities.
 
11:10 AM
must be why hl3 takes so long, customs nightmares
 
@BogdanMarginean lol
it's pretty crazy to think about making such an engine though
they have to utilize their whole worldwide supply chain to make it happen
 
I recently finished hl2 + expansions so now I'm not in the "make hl3 jokes for the memes" crowd anymore
I'm in the "make hl3 jokes for the memes but hl3 fucking when??? :("
crowd
 
I haven't had time for gaming at all recently
too much stuff going on
 
I had to install linux and gaming has been an interesting experience so far XD
steam for native games wine for anything else so far only a tiny number of games that I threw at it didn't work
 
I found that I care much less about the OS I'm using when I'm actually doing something
 
11:15 AM
did you see how nice vulkan plays, you can run doom 2016 in wine maxed out at a perfect framerate
 
I guess that's nice
RIP OGL
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz Remember that vector field stuff I did a few years ago with OpenGL?
 
user1804599
I'm going to do it again but now I actually understand basic linalg so it'll be much easier :P
 
11:36 AM
@BogdanMarginean Omg the way he speaks is extremely irritating
 
@BogdanMarginean what annoys me about that set up is that I have to have two versions of steam, one for linux native and one for wine. It was ages since I used wine though
 
11:48 AM
I don't mind that in fact I like playonlinux' model
where I put each game in its own virtual drive
as soon as I can find a way to tell POL to put skyrim on the hdd instead of ssd
I'll install it (steam)
 
@BogdanMarginean not sure what's the point of that
 
I figure it has to do with registry configurations and such, since some games require extra hacks
that would otherwise affect other games
 
12:16 PM
Looks like I won't come to Prague.
We've got a convert June 4th.
 
@Morwenn is this a religious thing?
 
Sorry, I meant a concert -_-
 
http://thehackernews.com/2017/02/kasperskyos-operating-system.html
LOL KasperskyOS...=> KremLinOS
 
12:40 PM
@ProblemSlover that is exactly why it exists, both so the Kremlin can spy on their users and be confidently secure in themselves
 
1:06 PM
I just crashed xelatex
I guess the world isn't ready for my insane Tikz binary decision diagrams
 
@Columbo use graphviz?
 
1:21 PM
@sweg_yolo_69 just because the kitchen is a bit crowded, you will start cooking in the bathroom instead?
 
@Abyx Date: 2100.12.31 .../
 
back to the future
 
wtf
what a waste of sticky tape.
 
I think it's cool, although I am not a big fan of laptops
 
1:48 PM
@Abyx only in russia is the future the past
 
also you can go faster than the speed of light if you drive very fast then fast forward many many times </trollololo>
once past the speed of light, you will time travel, thus explains why you are in the future in that video
 
user1804599
2:08 PM
@Ven lol Go's text/template parse function had a quadratic running time before 1.7.4.
 
Ven
@rightfold O_ô just how
 
user1804599
First parse into AST, then walk AST to fill in token positions, by counting newlines from the start of the file each time.
 
user1804599
Instead of remembering them during lexing.
 
that shouldn't be quadratic
 
user1804599
2:10 PM
It's quadratic.
 
user1804599
You loop through it, and for each element, loop through it again.
 
unless they recounted the newlines for each token
 
oh my
 
2:43 PM
@ProblemSlover this is pretty dumb
 
user1804599
3:00 PM
 
Ven
@rightfold saw it on typelevel already :)
 
user1804599
It's so terrible.
 
Ven
goat damn
 
user1804599
@Ven I want to develop an imperative programming language.
 
Ven
do you really
think about it for a second
you could be writing a GC, rightfold
 
user1804599
3:07 PM
No, I'll target JS and WebAssembly.
 
Ven
if you target WebAssembly you'll need to write a GC.
 
user1804599
Nope.
 
Ven
did they finally add one?
they hadn't last I checked.
 
user1804599
Nope.
 
Ven
ok, then have fun porting rust.
 
user1804599
3:10 PM
Nope!
 
Ven
inb4 we objective-c now
 
user1804599
You simply can't do heap allocation in the subroutines that are compiled to WebAssembly.
 
Ven
 
user1804599
@Ven How is that relevant?
 
Ven
@rightfold it's not at all, that's why it wasn't a reply.
 
user1804599
3:24 PM
Yes, I runClown.
 
Trucks launched off USS Gerald Ford aircraft carrier to test its jet catapult system, via @spectatorindex https://t.co/xdKLevyKJY
 
@Abyx looks fake
 
hi
 
@BartekBanachewicz dunno, those crazy merkins could actually do it
 
3:44 PM
So, our prime minister is starting election campaign for general elections that will be some time in October. His first two ideas are to allow going into government with Communists and to tax higher earning people more which includes me and would rob me for about 5k CZK.
I.e., for about 10 % of my paycheck.
 
That sounds great.
 
4:02 PM
@wilx "allow" meaning it's forbidden at present?
 
4:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The party he is from made a decision long time ago that they would not do it and they never did so far. Now the prime minister wants to disregard this.
Since 1995.
 
^ I have thumbed down the dude's post about disabling Markdown in Wordpress and he thumbed up his own post. Clowns everywhere.
Pretty bad day today.
 
Fuck wordpress
 
@ProblemSlover Only if it is a decently pretty and young woman! :)
 
@wilx indeed. it's for bored housewives
@wilx I belive it's your comment about the link i shared?
 
@ProblemSlover What?
 
5:15 PM
lool
@wilx move on
 
> delightful and engaging experience
I definitely expect my blogging software to delight me.
Le fuck.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Indeed.
I wasn't going to post it here. What got me was the thumbs up of his own post.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I use CPP but I fucking bet that's more delightful than any SW made by a man that uses such phrases
 
@wilx I have thummbed down his shit
 
@ProblemSlover 👍
 
5:23 PM
@wilx invite entire chat to do same :P
 
@ProblemSlover I did not want to be that obvious.
 
Does anyone use angel.co? Really cool place to meet cool people and opportunities. screw linkedin. although I have there like 600+ connections :P
 
@ProblemSlover One LinkedIn seems enough. :)
@Ven Holly molly!
 
5:49 PM
it was raining on the way back :S
I guess I'm glad I invested in the new tyres
 
nwp
Yay, done watching full metal alchemist. A whole new world of wasting my life is now open to me. /cc @Xeo @StackedCrooked
 
are you sure you watched brotherhood? It's 60-ish episodes.
 
nwp
64, about 20 minutes each
 
i see
cool
you watch fast :D
 
Damn sneaky bugs
That moment when you start logging all the damn code and the bug just vanish and you can't reproduce it
With a bit of luck removing the logs will not bring back the bug
 
user1804599
@Ven I need syntax for derivative and for antiderivative.
 
Ven
vOv
 
user1804599
<expr> ::= 'd' '/' 'd' <identifier> <expr>
 
user1804599
:V
 
user1804599
a := d/dx sin(x);
 
6:26 PM
@Borgleader That one definitely crosses the line of being indistinguishable between clueless an troll.
 
Ell
6:43 PM
@rightfold the <identifier> should be <expr> if you want to sort all kinds
 
user1804599
@Ell What does "sort all kinds" mean?
 
Ell
oops
I meant support, not sort
 
user1804599
Such as?
 
Ell
d/d sinx sinx
I guess you can always move the expr into it's own variable
 
user1804599
let a = sin x in d/d a a
 
user1804599
6:46 PM
Which is then just let a = sin x in 1.
 
user1804599
I'm not very keen on searching for whole subexpressions, because you have shadowing issues with that.
 
user1804599
Searching for just identifiers is easy.
 
Ell
@rightfold will you support partial derivatives?
 
user1804599
Actually d/d is a binder, just like λ.
 
Ell
I see
 
user1804599
6:49 PM
@Ell I don't see a point in treating other variables specially.
 
user1804599
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oh noes youtube is down
ah it's back
 
7:35 PM
This guy has about as many gold badges as rep in thousands
I find that weird
 
@Columbo we can try to close some of his questions as "primary opinion based", for example stackoverflow.com/questions/1096794/is-sleep-evil
 
@Mikhail considering the question is opinion based
 
SO in 2009 was a kinder place?
 
7:51 PM
pretty much
new and shinny
now if you post a question it's either a duplicate or opinion based
 
nwp
@Mikhail a smaller place, where it was unknown what questions would be answerable, without issues such as getting overwhelmed by homework question, a place that had to answer all the questions because sister sites didn't exist
 
good time
 
user3790646
last month someone tagged one of my questions from early 2015 as duplicate
 
nwp
there was a theory that people would be glad that their questions would be closed as duplicate because that means they get a good answer immediately without having to wait
doesn't seem to work out so well in practice
 
user3790646
haha
 
user3790646
7:55 PM
some people prefer rep over answers, I guess?
 
there was a time calling those people repwhore was still accepted on meta
 
user3790646
ah. That reminds me.
 
user3790646
I used to be one of those "repwhores"
 
user3790646
even got banned because of that
 
I think SO should have something like "tutoring" where you get points for answering people's specific questions.
 
7:57 PM
@Mikhail how is it different than now?
 
user3790646
now... They don't
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Very different, for example, if somebody has a linking error the question is going to be closed as a duplicate. I want to get rep for helping them fix their problem.
 
ah I understand... thoough sometimes the duplicate question really solves the problem
if not, we can always reopen
 
Wow, functional operations in Java are actually dope
 
Or sometimes people don't' understand their problem is related to the duplicate.
 
8:00 PM
Except Ranges is also dope
Hmm
 
yeah... sometimes people don't even see they have the solution within the question!
 
On the other hand 80% of SO questions are bullshit from some third world country. SO should release the geo-location information.
 
That would welcome racism
 
Or sociology, we could probably do a few research papers on analyzing this data sets...
 
user1804599
My son clearly has a better grasp on the real world than his teacher does. https://t.co/S74YL91yjN
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8:07 PM
@Mikhail I won't be surprised because of the language barrier. And if you fed geo-location into the quality filter engine, it's probably going to single out places like India for that reason regardless of whether or not you're racist.
There was podcast from a few years ago where they ran some AI to determine what keywords were the strong indicator of a shit question. And the top of the list wasn't, "help" or "urgent". It was "website". IOW, the AI discovered that webdev questions are inherently shittier. The AI is racist against web-related tags.
 
@Mysticial But we will never know because the data hasn't been released
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Q: Is variablize a word

Avi SaltzmanIs there a more appropriate word to use when ‘variablizing’ a data point (i.e to make something a variable) since the word variablize does not seem to appear in the Oxford English Dictionary (yet), and it's obviously used by developers all the time. While not a programming question, we feel this...

 
user3790646
8:40 PM
I like how he uses the "we" in the last paragraph
 
8:54 PM
variablize makes no sense... You can allocate memory and define/declare a variable
 
cc @AldwinCheung see above
 
His example, of making something a variable is also wrong, you either have memory or you link a label to a memory address. But you're never converting something to a variable.
 
9:15 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix #define variablize(...) const_cast<std::remove_const_t<decltype(__VA_ARGS__)>>(__VA_ARGS__) :D
 
Xeo
9:43 PM
verbibolize
 
stealer of joeks
 
9:55 PM
apparently the things are getting better in the U.S.
according to the counted U.S. police killed only 1092 people in 2016
quite a drop from 1146 in 2015
 
nwp
@Abyx really? seems like variance to me
 
I understand that the U.S. is huge, but it's like 21 persons every week, should be constantly on the local news everywhere
@nwp it was a joke
I really wonder how people live there.
 
with their eyes closed, I guess
 
nwp
10 per million, thats like a 50% chance to get shot, either it happens or it doesn't
 
10:07 PM
but those events aren't random. if you encounter a police officer, and you look suspicious, your chances to get shot are quite real.
remember that video?
 
nwp
you must be wondering how americans are not extinct yet
 
- your license please
- (man turns to his car)
- (officer starts shooting)
 
@Abyx that depends on the officer and your skin color sadly still
 
no it has nothing to with extinction. even Native Americans are still there, after all that genocide
 
10:24 PM
</minute-of-hate>
gotta go home
 
nwp
I wonder if Abyx is a russian government employee who's job it is to rotates between chatrooms and forums all day to spread anti-american propaganda or if he does it for free.
 
@nwp yes. the plan is to make you wonder
> Lohan, who has been photographed carrying a Quran, says she finds "solace" studying the Muslim holy book and other religious texts.
lolwut
did anyone try to read Quran? I did. It's fucking unreadable.
 
nwp
@Abyx What bothers me is that you focus on the wrong thing. Instead of telling people how bad the situation is you should concentrate on how to make it better.
@Abyx terrorist
 
 
does not look any worse than the Bible
 
10:38 PM
dunno, I think the Bible is not a collection of numbered lines
 
certainly is
 
oh sh... it's BASIC!
welp maybe next time when I'm extra bored I'd try reading the Bible
 
wouldn't recommend it
 
yeah guess so
but it's not like I'd convert
and begin to love little boys people
 
meh
don't really see it as any worse than Christianity
 
10:43 PM
@Puppy uhm, you mean Islam?
 
ye
 
Ell
both are too broad :V
choose a denomination of each
 
I might have gone with inherently dumb
 
I'm no expert in Christianity, but apparently Islam is way more specific in its teachings
 
well then I'd probably go with slightly less inherently dumb
 
10:48 PM
FARC disarmament to begin March 1: official http://u.afp.com/4N7c
^ some actually good news
 
user1804599
Religion propagation limits the reasoning capability and is therefore a form of mutilation.
 
user1804599
And should be punished for as such, like with circumcision and throwing acid in someone's face.
 
@rightfold doesn't really differ from that "common sense" thing
 
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