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12:13 AM
error: variable world is undefined, insufficient memory (check caffeine intake)
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Ϥō
 
Does the church of sehe have a kickstarter page? I'm in.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Is that where they worship the holy Spirit?
 
12:38 AM
@Borgleader I wouldn't know, it is not there to make sense.
 
1:05 AM
why does qt want to install 3 different versions?
 
1:16 AM
also; how old does a book on qt have to be before it is useless?
 
1:44 AM
not very friendly ruling for the retailers
 
2:03 AM
So I was 'invited' to some event called HackerX. I knew instantly that this 'invitation only' is just some marketing strategy. There are mostly positive reviews, but I am very glad to find that someone else to be more cynical than I was while reading the reviews:
If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold.
cynical level: Cat++
 
@jaggedSpire fluff ball! /cc @Ven @Morwenn @Xeo
 
2:21 AM
aasdflasjdghsfka
@Telkitty I would have thought Cat would add something like "and it's probably all shit anyway"
 
no wonder he left lounge for good :'D
 
@jamesson the stuff about qt forms is still relavent, it's just the really new stuff that's not included in the 4.5 book that's online
 
@AldwinCheung huh, I thought you could only exploit that particular bug in raids. but I was mistaken
 
@jamesson Qt is a framework though.
 
 
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3:54 AM
oops. wrong place :P
 
4:18 AM
@Telkitty is that your real picture?
 
 
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5:34 AM
@johnathon True beauty, isn't she?
 
@Telkitty The standard unit of measure for cynicism: the nanocat.
 
@JerryCoffin I can only imagine how full on 1 cat sounds like.
 
@wilx You may be able to, but I'd advise against it.
 
@johnathon No, she's a billionaire. I am a freaking feral cat
If you want to see what I looks like: telkitty.com.au
My blog, plenty of my pictures there
 
6:00 AM
@Telkitty 206.196.111.206 .. omg
Just host on wp.com.,/
 
> "pedantic" has a very precise meaning within GCC that is already quite difficult to explain, let's not make it even more complex by overloading it.
heh
 
@jaggedSpire well strictly speaking… yes I do
 
heh
 
anyhoo it appears that GCC’s warn_unused_result attribute has a wonky implementation. unfortunately that means it carries over to its support for the C++17 [[nodiscard]] attribute, as in this. better prepare for disappointment
 
6:06 AM
:C
 
6:33 AM
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Q: Garbled greeter/login screen

wilxI have recently (as in beginning of 2017 recently) started having issues with garbled greeter/login screen. Once it happens, it does not fix itself even if I switch to console and back. When I type my password correctly, I get to see my session working normally. This is with Radeon and the free d...

Halp, please.
 
6:53 AM
> note: an inherited constructor is not a candidate for initialization from an expression of the same or derived type
taking this as face value, that would mean this is a bug, no?
I need a sanity check cos this is making me desperate
 
@wilx throw out radion and setup nvidia. that's the solution of your problem
 
user1804599
7:27 AM
> Ystävänpäivä
 
user1804599
Good job Finland "Valentine's day".
 
7:37 AM
Yo yo yo
what the hell is std::vector<...>::_M_emplace_back_aux(const float&) and why is it being called from a function that doesn't even USE vector?
 
_Identifiers that start with an underscore followed by an uppercase letter are reserved to the implementation, this is an implementation function
 
@LucDanton Well, yeah. But why is it being called from a function that doesn't touch vector?
That's my question.
It does call new, though
 
nobody knows
 
Xeo
8:05 AM
Probably because it does, in some fashion, actually call std::vector::emplace_back
 
@ProblemSlover ;_;
 
8:18 AM
@Xeo But you see
 
9:06 AM
@rightfold It seems like overkill to install a whole extension just to change the style of this bit on a page.
Chrome extensions seems to live in their own process and take up tens of megabytes of memory.
There should be easier way to do this through Stylish plugin if you already have it.
 
Oh wow
Has anybody used Numerical Recipes?
 
@VermillionAzure The book? Nope.
 
I have to deal with C Numerical Recipes code...
aaaaaand because it's computationally heavy, the top cycle sucker is...
DING DING DING it's svdcmp_d()
I also saw K&R syntax for the first time because of that
 
@VermillionAzure Haha, you are so young. :)
 
@wilx I... didn't like it
Also, it took me forever to understand what all the letters meant
 
user1804599
9:19 AM
> It looks like you are implementing a recursive algorithm, but the pseudocode describes an iterative algorithm.
 
user1804599
ugh khan academy
 
user1804599
> If you carefully design the condition on your while loop, you shouldn't need to use a break.
 
user1804599
My break is in a switch statement you fucking twat
 
@rightfold Maybe you need a....
SHADES
break;
 
Ven
9:33 AM
Hi
 
Excel says 240710. Why solve it in Python when you have Excel? Excel is used by managers - it cannot be wrong ;-) — Thomas Weller yesterday
@VermillionAzure yes
@VermillionAzure what do they mean?
@rightfold lol
 
Hi.
 
Ven
9:49 AM
Hey hey :
 
<3
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: The refugees want to kill us [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
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Ven
:3
 
10:11 AM
@ddale8 someone is raising great boys! great story.
@wilx-worthy
 
@sehe I have nothing against boys and girls training together. But it is unreasonable for them to compete after certain age. Girls just cannot possibly keep up with the same age boys after certain age.
 
URGENT: Flynn resignation internal US matter – Kremlin https://on.rt.com/8342 https://t.co/lkiNCrreEQ
fuck RT.
what's so urgent about it?
 
@sehe Sorry, TL;DR.
@sehe Though, TBH, at certain age it is hard to defend against girls as a boy. You sometimes have to tough their chests when defending and that was always awkward for me.
 
@wilx I was referring to the tweet
@wilx It's 7 words
 
@wilx FREE THE NIPPLE
 
10:17 AM
It's nice how "anti"-feminists¹ miss the fact that feminists miss their own fucking point blatantly.
@Abyx URGENT (6 letters) BREAKING (8 letters). Welcome to Twitter
 
@sehe Your thought process is too complicated for me. I do not understand.
 
@momsofhockey @ddale8 erm. children, not just the boys
If there was ever an argument for existence of patriarchism, this is it: people don't even know when they do it.
Not even the ones loudly vocal about it. On either side.
 
@sehe nothing breaking about it either
 
@sehe Err, sorry not sorry, I do not get it. The boys were asked if they want to play with the girls or not and they said yes. The author of the tweet praises the boys.
 
No. The author says some parents are raising good boys. That's silly. They're raising good kids. They're making every bit of the same impression on girls.
Also, they asked the team. This must have included girls.
 
user1804599
10:31 AM
WTF KHAN ACADEMY
 
user1804599
Y U NO ACCEPT TAIL-RECURSIVE FACTORIAL FUNCTION
 
@sehe lolwut
 
user1804599
It must be non-tail-recursive, ugh
 
Haha, just found the source.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, you should have been there. Starts with the telling
yesterday, by johnathon
@sehe what's that title to the lounge?
And culminates with request to remove stars on this message
 
10:37 AM
Oh, we have a Trumpist here?
We should get him and Abyx together some day.
 
yesterday, by sehe
FWIW the current lounge title is a mocking reference to a fallacious argument made by another populist. One of the Russian brand.
 
I can't believe that people still bring out the "let's see what he actually does" nonsense.
 
I believe we can already see it. People are just making excuses for a little more inaction.
It's a coping strategy for social groups. (Bystander effect)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought he already did
 
He's been doing things already. Things that were put in place terribly and were backed out of. Things the courts have been rejecting continuously. Things he didn't even know he was doing.
 
10:42 AM
In the end I really do like that operator<=> proposal.
 
At this point, if you bring out the "let's see what he actually does" shtick, you're an idiot.
 
Also I sorta got a car
 
You mean you stole one?
 
Xeo
Let's see what he actually doesn't do
 
Let's see how it actually ends
 
10:44 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes it belongs to my GF's family and it's been just standing outside for a few years
 
So, it's an out standing vehicle
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I might bring it home and tinker with it a bit
 
Oh, and all the "best people" he brought in to "drain the swamp"...
 
dunno maybe put a turbo in and set it up for racing
 
were there any delicious fish after you drain the swamp?
 
10:46 AM
I always wanted a racing car
 
@BartekBanachewicz Where I live, people use cars to bring them home
 
@sehe I wouldn't dare to drive a car that's been sitting outside for a few years
as much as I like going fast, I like to do it on things that have functioning brakes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, to be fair, many people think he did. Because they're free to reinterpret "drain the swamp" as "kick the lefties out"
 
sporty cars remind me of short guys, nothing wrong with short guys of course
 
All the nasty things from his campaign that were "just an act; let's see what he actually does"? He's still doing them. All of them. All the things that would actually be decent to do? Haha, right.
In fact, he's doing worse, because during the campaign he never insinuated that judges were enemies of the people.
At least in the UK it's the tabloids saying that shit, not their elected officials, not the head of one branch of government.
 
10:50 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes because he didn't expect them to be an obstacle
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes One point that I keep seeing made is "He's not actually doing anything; he's just enforcing existing laws"
 
@sehe But that's just his job description. It's a platitude.
The legislative branch makes the new laws.
 
Which is breathtakingly wrong, but requires subtlety to disspell. E.g. it would require me to know the ins and outs of greencards, H1N1 and ...
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think that's the point. They're saying "deporting people by sweeping neighbourhoods" is nothing new, Obama did that, and these people have no right.
 
@sehe lol
 
As if it removes the significance of going knocking door-to-door to find illegal immigrants
 
10:53 AM
I was looking for gaiter, I typed in gater & I found this:
 
@sehe FDR too!
 
@LucDanton Not actually laughing. It's kinda easy for people to hold up a smoke screen made up of "There's nothing new" which I can't blow clear because of them little details.
 
hey I’m just appreciating a viral joke
 
hmm. I think it's over my head
 
yesterday, by jaggedSpire
@johnathon ...do you mean h1b? h1n1 is a virus type.
you have been infected
 
10:55 AM
lol "h1n1 visas"
 
well, it is catchy
 
For a moment I thought I had missed news of maybe Kellyanne "Propaganda Barbie" Conway saying they had an H1N1 epidemic and had to deport people.
Alternative visas.
 
@LucDanton ah, in my defense, I didn't come up with it (and it underscores my point):
yesterday, by johnathon
@sehe green card holders, do you mean h1n1 visa's ?
But thanks for pointing out that joke, because, indeed, it goes to show how flimsy the counter arguments are.
 
I don't think the WHO would like people getting deported because they were infected by a infectious disease, it would spread the epidemic much faster
 
Not unlike "But some schools need guns in order to protect against bears!"
 
10:58 AM
@ratchetfreak But not in the US!
America First.
 
@LucDanton My first though was indeed of h5n1, and I didn't quite get it
 
American born chickens
 
American Poultry (1999) on IMDb
 
is it legal to import chickens from those 7 Islamic countries?
ISIS chickens 4 the wing!
 
11:00 AM
Only if you're going to behead them
 
But Steve Bannon has never beheaded anyone. He's ok
 
fold news
 
@Telkitty The Daily Ex-Princess is not a reputable news source.
Other exemplary articles from the Diana Express: express.co.uk/news/weird/694254/…, express.co.uk/news/weird/692031/…
 
maybe illuminati is backed by aliens ... maybe ...
 
11:15 AM
(If you're wondering about the Diana jokes: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Express#Diana.2C_Princess_of_Wales)
 
11:25 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes lolwut
 
@sehe What I'm trying to say is, The Express is garbage.
 
I got it. The wut was for the articles
 
The guy running it is a conspiracy nutter.
 
Wait till he becomes PM
 
11:48 AM
I searched for ultralight shovel, search result return a Aluminum Alloy Folding Long Spoon For Camping
 
12:13 PM
The three types of DNS query: iterated, recursive, and seafood-related. https://t.co/71qbhsqYD5
^ IoT is an unmitigated disaster.
 
12:45 PM
@wilx you spelled that wrong, it's IoCT
 
@Mgetz Indoor obstacle course test?
 
@wilx Internet of Compromised Things
 
@Mgetz Heh.
 
and until they change liability law it will continue to be that way
personally I'd allow manufacturers to be sued if they don't provide security updates for the expected lifetime of the product
at which point I would expect that FridgeOS would get a lot more robust
 
@Mgetz Or they'd lower the advertised lifetimes.
 
12:50 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes at least in the US that would get pushed back on as nobody replaces their fridge after a year
 
@Mgetz Ah, but they don't have to. The products will still last, but the manufacturers won't mention so.
 
@Mgetz Yeah. Everyone knows the "S" in IoCT stands for "Secure"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no I mean that they'll say that, and then still get sued. The judge will rule that they have to actually state a lifetime in keeping with the actual fridge portion or it's false advertising.
 
Over-Z-ealous correction :D
 
@Mgetz which will result in them adding even more planned obsolescence and make the compressor burn out after end of life for the fridge
 
nwp
1:00 PM
I feel a bit sorry for whoever is in charge of docs.se.
 
@ratchetfreak or just producing a fridge without the IOT crap
 
@Mgetz which would be so much cheaper but can't be advertised as "connected"
 
nwp
maybe some day you can advertise with "disconnected"
 
The proposed changes to the concept TS look good enough compared to what we had.
 
scapegoat needed for roast probably
 
DING, DING, DING! Here it is; THIS is what we've been looking for. https://t.co/9tP5BIDJxh
 
@Abyx There were a lot of issues with Flynn, he had a significant MICE issues
 
user406009
1:36 PM
@Mgetz The hilarious thing about it is that he loved to lead chants about locking up Hillary.
 
wtf is up with the new SO layout
i didnt ask for this D:
 
@Lalaland not as funny as the fact that one of the replacements they are considering is Petreus who was convicted of felony mishandling of classified materials
217
A: Phase Two of Top Navigation Testing Begins Soon!

MgetzPlease add a dark theme, this is so bright it hurts my eyes. If that's not possible please introduce a little color to reduce the amount of white on the page. It's pretty atrocious at the moment and makes the site hard to use. A reminder that in general users see shapes rather than reading word...

 
user406009
1:53 PM
The main usability change with the new layout appears to be that you can now see little blurbs from the questions when browsing.
 
@Mgetz ae
 
user406009
I guess that's a little bit helpful.
 
still needs a dark theme
 
nwp
there is probably a simple-ish way to invert colors on a website excluding images
 
github and SO swapping layout styles...
 
1:58 PM
Wow, the new SO style indeed sucks.
 
@Mgetz No dark theme? Are they insane!?
 
nwp
That last photo's totally fake. There's no way she's on the moon. — David Richerby 16 hours ago
I knew it!
 
hey together, I am installing gcc@5 via homebrew on Mac. I did not expect it to compile all of gcc hence this is taking way longer than planned. Now I'm running low on battery and want to ask whether I can pause the compilation
 
@Borgleader probably not, at the same time it's not that hard to do and it is a bit unreasonable to respond to users to install an extension and use user styles
 
nwp
@hillbilly You can't. Pausing a compilation is a violation of Apple's terms of service and will lock down your Mac. You can get it unlocked in a Mac-store, but it will cost you a small service fee of about 200$.
wait, should it have been Apple-store?
 
2:07 PM
oh thank you god:
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Q: We're adding a setting to disable fixed/sticky navigation

OdedAs part of our work on updating site navigation we have recently asked y'all to help us test the new top nav and provide bug reports and other feedback. One feature that has garnered a lot of strong feelings from a number of people in the community was the fixed navigation - some people truly di...

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@nwp haha
nvm
 
2:25 PM
@Morwenn All changes suck. You'll get used to it.
 
Aaaaugh! What the hell happened to SO?
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@jaggedSpire Souls switch with GitHub.
 
@wilx I was less chocked by GitHub's change.
I'm already used to it actually.
 
@LucDanton Well well well someone forgot to delete a copy constructor somewhere
 
2:42 PM
whoa
github and SO changed UI on one day and both of them suck
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix Clearly a complot.
 
github is just a color change
 
The github changes makes me think the CSS style didn't finish loading and leave me in a state waiting for something to load
@ratchetfreak they should have added a "github" theme instead. Just like gmail let you change the visuals of your mailbox
 
jfc they really did switch
what the hell
 
I guess people on both sides though they should converge styles but then didn't communicate...
 
2:50 PM
@jaggedSpire T_T
 
user1804599
@Mgetz nice
 
3:24 PM
@jaggedSpire looks much better now
 
Looks like a mobile app. Everything is giant on my 4k. I used to see ~20 questions, now I can only see 8. Any they are all bullshit.
 
@Mikhail press ctrl+- a few times?
 
bullshit questions still don't go away
 
@Mikhail wut
I think I see more questions now, as the vertical space is better utilized
 
3:32 PM
blacklist the javascript tag then
 
^^ that
 
@BartekBanachewicz Half a question more?
 
Ven
#1
 
4:15 PM
Tirns out I won't be able to use skuype app without disclosing my birthday and location. wtf!
 
in TeX, LaTeX and Friends on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 7 mins ago, by David Carlisle
@yo' I was reading their blog about it, they are worried that people google straight to an answer and miss the added stackexchange value so they thought they stick a massive great header in the way:-)
 
@ProblemSlover you can always hide the truth
 
nwp
@ProblemSlover don't use it then
 
fuck skype
it's possibly the worst chat tool ever written on this planet
 
Muck you Mivrosoft. burn in hell along with windows 10
 
4:17 PM
@BartekBanachewicz IRC ftw
 
Ell
I would like a modern looking IRC client though
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix IRC doesn't have direct replies or threads
 
Web/Deskop skype Version doesn't rwequire my personal details..
 
it's really clunky to use
also ofc IRC itself doesn't provide the message history
or a way to search
 
@BartekBanachewicz it all depend on your IRC client
 
Ell
4:20 PM
@BartekBanachewicz hardly anything has direct replies or threads unfortunately :(
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix IOW, not on IRC itself
 
and IRC network if it keeps history
 
IRC itself is just a tad less primitive than a posix socket
hardly an achievement
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz well what is IRC if not the client & server
 
@Ell clients and servers add their own functionality that makes that crap barely usable at all
 
Ell
4:21 PM
well
 
but it's not in the protocol itself
 
@BartekBanachewicz at least it works and you're not locked in with some implementations.. xmpp is nice too
 
Ell
we should get back to working on lounge<chat> then :P
 
should we
 
Ell
yeah xmpp has almost all of these features
 
4:22 PM
Lounge is full of people who can't work together unless they're paid so
 
even if they're paid
 
Ell
being paid isn't the issue IMO
 
democracy only gets you so far, at some point you need to make decisions and people tend to lose interest rapidly if the project doesn't go the way the precious snowflakes want it to
at first they're like "ok w/e" but then the inevitable "oh no this is not a thing I wanted" comes up and everyone dissolves
 
@BartekBanachewicz sounds like a butthurt reply
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz the problem is making decisions in the first place
nobody makes them
 
4:23 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix sounds like years of experience
@Ell because everyone knows better
 
Ell
knows better than to make decisions?
 
@Ell I use glowing bear. It's nice.
Well, the actual client is weechat running inside screen, but it acts as a relay and I connect to it from my phone or PC with glowing bear. Fixes the issue with message history since the client itself never disconnects.
That said, you can use Riot for a similar experience without the hassles of self-hosting.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes thats how hundreds of people are always online on certain channels
 
Riot is pretty cool.
 
> Get it on F-Droid
yaaaaaay
 
4:29 PM
ikr
 
Ah shit. The review button is right next to the unclicked rep button. This is totally a conspiracy against me.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes it does look cool
it's really cool.
thanks :D
my only problem with it is that the colour schemes are meh
 
4:51 PM
This is the last year of MP3 encoding patents.
Nice.
 
nwp
I wonder how much money that patent made.
 
5:03 PM
To be honest, it wasn't a bad idea ;-)
 
if you actively sue people infringing and force them to get licenses you can make a lot of money on a widespread patent
 
or everybody will switch to ogg
 
@ratchetfreak They do.
@nwp Some hundred million a year, it seems.
 
yeah I just checked wikipedia on it
 
R.I.P :(
 
Ell
5:13 PM
> Nuke C++ stuff.
heh
 
Is anybody here interested in a game of Nomic starting the 3rd of March probably hosted in our abandoned forum?
 
user image
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5:31 PM
Hey everyone did you see the cool new Stack Overflow header design? http://stackoverflow.com https://t.co/G7ZbmEMcLw
^ Give him a piece of your mind, guys and gals.
 
Can I borrow your Twitter account?
 
@Mikhail Can you? :)
 
@wilx Are you inciting Twitter violence? :/
 
I'm having some trouble figuring out the security question, any hints?
 
@Shoe Using violence in that sentence makes no sense to me and thus I cannot answer the question.
 
5:34 PM
Twitter bullying?
Twitter lounging?
 
@Shoe No.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you by any chance interested in helping me set up a game of nomic?
 
5:47 PM
@Mysticial Do the server flavors of Windows seem more prone to memory fragmentation? Or am I just crazy?
 
@Shoe YES YES YES YES
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is that enthusiasm or am I being too persistent?
 
I'm totally up for it.
 
@Mikhail No idea. Fragmentation stopped becoming a problem for me once I started micromanaging memory.
Almost stopped. It's hard to get large pages after the system has been running for a while.
 
@Mysticial Fuck. So I need to write more code? Did you use some library? Yeah, I also got the large page file problem...
 
5:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What brand new software can we use to collect the participants? Alternatively I can just set up a google sheet with some specific permissions, probably
Some place where people can say "yes, I'm up for it, from x month"
 
@Mikhail No libraries. Just careful programming.
 
aka, don't keep allocating?
 
Allocate all the memory at the start of the application (fresh after boot). And use it as is.
 
user1804599
I understand sin, cos, tan now.
 
user1804599
after a decade of ignorance
 
5:55 PM
What's there to understand? :/
 
@Shoe to sign up? Google sheet seems good enough.
 
ye
Give me a sec
 
@Mysticial I can't really use that strategy because of user interaction. In a typical use case I might change the camera frame size.
 
Well then you're fucked.
 
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