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12:00 AM
Since when does Feed post questions?
 
> LibreOffice Calc based BIOS
 
My parents bought my new glasses in December. It's been fucking months and they were supposed to arrive today. But no, now they're arriving tomorrow.
I feel like clubbing a baby seal.
 
I don't know what I'm supposed to imagine this is
 
> Github Down? Take Control of Your Git Repository
/r/programming pls
y u do dis
 
@Shoe It scans the RSS feed for . since forever
 
12:00 AM
pls
 
Is that another film about rabbits
 
@Shoe (which I removed)
 
I see
 
@Nooble Poor seals didn't do anything to you.
 
Thanks
@HubertApplebaum Didn't work
 
12:01 AM
@Nooble Wow, maybe they got lost in the mail?
Also, I should get a new pair of glasses
but :effort:
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion haha yeah I'm just making shit up :V
 
just get half of the pair
 
I considered lenses
but I don't want to shove things in my eyes
 
What about your mouth?
 
@TonyTheLion No it's just a whole issue about them not having it in stock online but the sales rep not believing this and having to contact some head honcho. Two months later "oh yeah we don't have them in stock you were right."
 
Ell
12:02 AM
You could get laser eye surgery
 
@Ell Noooopppe. I've had enough surgery for a lifetime
 
actually I'll just use the extension cause lazy
 
@Nooble morons
 
Ell
Fair enough :P
 
@TonyTheLion never enough
 
12:03 AM
Lasers in my eye sounds scary
 
@TonyTheLion I started wearing a wristwatch 'cause I couldn't see the clock from my seat in school :P
 
lasers in your butt
 
And the damn thing is so heavy.
 
starbait
 
@Nooble woah a wristwatch
I haven't worn that in > 10 years
 
12:04 AM
yay
 
@Nooble careful it might be interpreted as a bomb
 
thats for hipsters only
 
I pass all the conformance tests
 
does it give the time if yes be careful
 
Last wristwatch I wanted to buy cost > 2k USD
didn't buy
 
12:05 AM
@Rapptz for the commas?
 
Last wristwatch I wanted to buy costed nothing.
 
I was wondering about that, I don’t really know JSON though
 
@TonyTheLion I'm wearing my dad's cheapest watch. Which is still quite expensive and I'd die if I broke it.
 
@Nooble Yikes
 
12:06 AM
I think it's a silly part of json
 
@Nooble fukken snob
 
@HubertApplebaum I wish it gave me more time on tests.
@набиячлэвэлиь what
 
what
too large
 
@Rapptz it don’t matter too much though, you could have just as well modified the input JSON
 
yeah
 
12:09 AM
I need to investigate the destructors I use for function types.
 
whats all this talk about JSON I've been seeing lately?
am I missing some important new fad?
 
The metatables may be redundant.
 
I CAN'T SEE THINGS IT IRRITATES ME.
 
I just noticed the comment parsing ThePhD did doesn't have tests
 
I'm at like -4.25 on both eyes.
 
12:09 AM
@Nooble Eat more Eucalyptus
 
I could have sworn I put tests in there?
 
@Nooble crickey
 
Stuffed them into the whitespace tests.... I thiiiiiiiiiiiiink.
 
oh you did
I'm just blind
 
\o/
 
12:11 AM
k what's next
 
Dunno.
More RoboDanny stuff?
 
oh I meant for json
 
I think you've covered all the possible / potential uses?
Only other thing you'd need to think about is addressing the operator[] stuff?
 
usability things I guess
and yeah operator[] is weird
afaik I wasn't even the one who added it
 
it was a PR from a long time ago.
One of your first users of the library IIRC.
 
12:14 AM
I suck at reviewing etc
 
I mean. It technically works, and you can throw exceptions instead of the return {} it does.
 
@Rapptz really
now I’m curious, I’ll peek at it after the vidyas
 
RIP Luc's all over it now.
 
@Rapptz that reminds me, what is that ["dne"] test about
 
@ThePhD Hi <3 /cc @TonyTheLion
 
12:17 AM
@Borgleader Borgleader! Welcome home!
 
@Borgleader Hi <3
 
@LucDanton I don't remember. I guess I did it to see if the default case for as<T>(...) works as intended.
but it's a silly test
 
@Borgleader Hey, pssst! Want some luv? <3
 
@Morwenn always
 
@Borgleader so are you still at work?
 
12:22 AM
nope, im home
 
yay :)
so whats home like? you live in a flat?
 
sbi
Good morning.
 
Hi Mr. Ape
 
sbi
Hi Mr Lion.
@sehe What?
 
@sbi We talk shit about people when they're gone.
cough Scott is a bad vegetable cough.
 
sbi
12:26 AM
@Nooble So do we when you are gone.
 
this is the internet, shit talked are searchable
 
user406009
@Nooble Just wait until they are at uncon and you are not.
 
sbi
@sehe To be fair, Peter is not only a decent guy, but IIRC in his talk (I was there) he also mentioned that this wasn't cooked up by him.
(Also, many of us are teaching others to program C++ – you do so every time you answer an SO question, after all – and in doing so we often parrot wisdom others have come up with without always attributing it to them.)
@MadaraUchiha Well, here's a pro tip then: Make SO fix the damn flagging system so that it is actually useful. There's numerous meta threads discussing this and we have complained about to to mods and SO employees – to no avail.
 
@Lalaland :(
 
@sbi start or bumping up a related meta thread
 
user406009
12:32 AM
@Nooble It's OK. We can make our own uncon.
 
user406009
In the US and shit.
 
With blackjack and hookers.
 
user406009
With blackjack.
 
user406009
(No hookers)
 
We can call it Unc++on.
 
12:33 AM
Oh, right, hookers are illegal.
 
sbi
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper I have done so many times. I don't feel like doing their work anymore.
 
user406009
I'm still waiting to find out where I will be this summer, but once I do, we should start planning.
 
NYC because Nooble.
 
I want to go to Montana
 
I want money.
 
12:37 AM
Money wants me
 
I want Tony. <3
 
user406009
@Morwenn So do we all.
 
Does that make me Money?
 
@ThePhD <3 <3 <3
 
12:38 AM
tony the money
 
@ThePhD Are you implying you want me to want you?
 
@ThePhD Maybe~~~
 
user406009
@ThePhD Nah, the proof only goes the other way. If you don't want Tony, then you are not money.
 
@Lalaland RIP, I wish it was communative.
 
Your mom is commutative.
 
12:39 AM
@Morwenn relevant
 
12:50 AM
the silence is deafening
 
<3
I want to sleep but I haven't finished my beer yet.
 
I want to sleep, but my room is still warming up
 
Too cold to sleep?
 
user406009
@TonyTheLion Add more layers of blankets!
 
@Morwenn A little, I want to feel all snuggly and warm tonight
@Lalaland I don't have any more :(
 
12:53 AM
@TonyTheLion I feel the best time is when you get in a cold bed, and it's too cold but you can feel it becoming warmer.
Until it's actually too hot and you start removing layers...
 
Ell
Somebody please make an android version
Would it be possible on android? I feel as though it requires a realtime OS or some shiz
 
I guess the weather is calm enough for me to open my window tonight.
 
@Morwenn Is it that hot where you are?
 
@TonyTheLion Below 10°C.
 
@Morwenn Those are not temperatures in which I would consider opening my window
@Ell Sounds like a good project for you :)
 
12:56 AM
@TonyTheLion My window is almost always open when there is no strong wind and no rain.
 
@Morwenn oh you're one of those people
 
@TonyTheLion It's just that I don't like the smell when I wake up in a closed room. You know, it's not a strong smell, but it smells a bit like sweat and I don't like that.
 
ah yes, I know that smell
 
At least, when the window is open, this isn't a problem anymore.
 
it isn't very nice
 
12:58 AM
At least when you wake up and it's a bit cold outside of the bed, you feel kind of fresh and more awake.
On the other hand, it's harder to get out of the bed.
 
Getting out in the cold is harsh
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion maybe. But games are hard
And android is a pain :V
And I suffer from chronic NIH
 
Well, it's 2 A.M., I finished my beer and I don't have any new notification on Facebook or GitHub. Also my music just ended. I gueess it's time to go to sleep.
@TonyTheLion Not Invented Here
 
@Morwenn Night In Heaven
 
1:00 AM
@Morwenn oh
 
@Borgleader I like that one :)
 
also good night
 
Ell
Although I could use c++ I suppose
 
I'm off to bed too
good night y'all <3
 
@TonyTheLion night <3
 
1:01 AM
@Borgleader <3
 
Good night everyone ♥
 
Ell
Night all
 
I just came. :(
 
starbait
 
Good night @Borgleader @TonyTheLion @Morwenn @Ell.
@HubertApplebaum starbate
 
1:07 AM
@Morwenn Nighty night.
@TonyTheLion Sleep tight.
@Rapptz Yo, question: at the moment for constructors we support overloading based on argument arity (not type) for lua. Should we also support this in the general sense (e.g., when making a usertype, if they specify 2 functions with the same function name, allowing overloading if they have a different number of arguments?)
 
I suppose it's fine
 
My workload just got so much harder \o/
 
If it's difficult then don't bother.
I assumed you figured out a way to do it lol
 
I know how to do it, but it doesn't change that's it's a bunch of work.
plus I'm also all about ~~zero overhead~~ so now I've gotta make a lot of template metamagic.
At the end of the day we'll have to pay the cost of 1x switch (since the argument number arity comes as a runtime choice for lua), but after that there should be no overhead.
 
start with 1 overhead
 
1:12 AM
I like puppy's suggestion
not so much the implementation :v
 
For what?
operator[] ?
 
e.g. v.as<std::vector<int>>()
no
 
Oh.
Well, you could do what you did with lua.
e.g. has_key_value_pair and stuff.
 
yeah I know how to write it
 
Welp, have fun! \o/
 
1:13 AM
that trait is actually in there lol
 
Oh wow, really?
 
the problem is what we discussed earlier
I wanted v.as<some_udt>() to work too
but Luc didn't like that idea too much
 
v.as<some_udt> should rely on canonincal_from_json or from_json overload, no?
 
that's what I was saying
but meh
I think it'd be neat to do e.g. v.as<std::vector<some_udt>>()
that'd make some things really nice and clean
 
1:17 AM
@MarkGarcia im not going to bed .. yet
 
Question, though.
 
but it depends on v.as<some_udt>() being a thing
 
std::vector<int> is clearly an array of ints, but
What if someone wants to override that behavior?
What happens then?
 
fuck them
 
Works for me. vOv
 
1:18 AM
just do the other way
v.as<json::array>() and work with that data
 
I haven't used Clang in a while.
 
anyway
I think instead of .as<some_udt>() or what have you I could probably change value_cast<T>(v) to do it instead.
that way I get to keep .as<T>() to only work on that specific operation rather than the magic
 
@Rapptz that’s not what I said
 
you said you didn't like how it did more than one operation no?
am I being dumb again
 
1:24 AM
so
here’s the thing
if you have an extensible as
obv. it works on as<array> etc. and so on
in addition to the UDTs
as I’ve said, that’s fine to have
I also like to have a non-extensible version around for generic code
 
yeah so that's why I'm suggesting
 
don’t say "I don’t like the idea very much"
 
value_cast<T>(v) does the extensible stuff + regular as<T>() and as<T>() stays as it currently is
 
I’m fine with it
 
sorry, bad wording
not really the implication I was going for
 
1:26 AM
hey guys! I have a quick question - I'm currently forking a previous version of linux distro, specifically core-utils
In one of the functions there's a cmp function where overflow of integers occur. I think longs may also overflow in this case. How would someone implement a "Safe" cmp for two integers?
 
obv I care about your opinions though
 
It's for the unix command ls -lt --full-time where the overflow occurs if the two dates are far apart.
 
well my perspective was for my needs
 
it's not an outlandish perspective so I appreciated it
 
maybe you don’t care about return bikeshed_as<compute_mega_type_t>(json); // I expect object or array but by mistake it computes shared_ptr<object_or_array>
 
1:30 AM
hm?
I don't follow :|
 
@Rapptz otoh that was from experience with Luabind which always accepted any type and would reject the conversion attempt at runtime
brb vidya
 
if I change value_cast<T>(v) to do the extra magic then I have to change v.as<T>() to do static_assert instead of throwing an exception.
 
> bikeshed_as
a more descriptive name would be preferrable
 
robert_cast
5
 
descriptive_bikeshed_as
it describes how descriptive it is
 
1:41 AM
so
thoughts on my proposal
evil/terrible/neutral/good/great
 
evenin'
@TonyTheLion Such floof!
@ThePhD well you got me. I've been trying to teach my fellow red pandas the art of camouflage.
 
@Rapptz Why call it value_cast and not from_json ?
 
value_cast is already a thing
but okay I guess
new function it is
 
@Rapptz same as last time
 
I'll put that down as neutral
 
1:54 AM
@Rapptz Oh. Well, might as well go through that then.
 
@Rapptz yeah it’s not as bad when convertability is checked at compile-time
wait, throwing an exception?
 
isn't it convertibility though
 
what for?
 

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