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12:04 AM
@sehe Why did you pick Michigan?
oh, that's right
now I understand
 
You have no say in this.
You host coliru on friggin rackspace.
<sad-trombone/>
 
9 hours ago, by Elim Garak
@TonyTheLion you bad person you. :P <3
@ElimGarak why did you say this?
I didn't get it in Mumble :(
 
13 hours ago, by Kasper
@TonyTheLion what kind of person are you really, I'm active at several chats, related to javascript. dart and polymer, and if someone asks me a question, that I know, I'm trying to be helpfull, if I don't know it, I just ignore it, what is the point of being such a bitch ? but okay, maybe C programmers are just not as nice people as web developers... surely leaving here, never seen such a rude chat in my life
 
@ElimGarak hahah
 
@TonyTheLion I had asked that earlier
 
12:19 AM
@ScottW I didn't know michigan was on the west coast?
 
You guys need larger displays, I usually see old stars. And then everyone misses it.
 
@sehe oh I missed that
 
@ElimGarak laffo
 
12:36 AM
@sehe What's that supposed to mean?
 
mooooooomble
 
hoy
criminal case is fun to play
very nice
 
hey scott
 
@chmod711telkitty Mumble.
 
I have potted my basil plant!
 
12:39 AM
@jaggedSpire Mumble.
 
@Nooble I'll be being quiet while I figure out how to make crepes without butter
because I refuse to buy four sticks of butter when I'm going to use a tablespoon of it, and the present butter-monster in my refrigerator doesn't need a potential cohort.
 
use butter you scrub
 
@ʞɔᴉN I'm not buying sixteen times as much butter as I use in a year
I refuse
 
@jaggedSpire Mumble.
 
do you really not use butter?
 
12:43 AM
@ʞɔᴉN Really. I use olive oil and canola oil, mostly.
 
ugh
how can you bake stuff?
 
@ʞɔᴉN I don't much. And bread doesn't need butter. The kinds of bread I like are best with things like olive oil and expensive cheese, anyway.
 
but cookies..
 
...I don't really make cookies.
Instead, I make mini-chocolate cakes with greek yogurt, and then ice them with greek yogurt for a nice tang
I get the vast majority of my fats from dairy and the olive oil I put in my granola
I think. I haven't actually counted everything out, but I don't really make things that are very high in fat.
 
that sounds pretty good but come on
 
12:49 AM
yep. My present butter is an unopened box of four sticks I got when I moved into this apartment over a year ago. The expiration date is for the twentieth of September. That would be nice, but it's last Septmber it's talking about. Confirmed butter monster.
 
not even one batch of cookies
 
@ʞɔᴉN Not even one. :|
...I'm scared to open this.
For science!
 
yesterday you said tomorrow
 
@ʞɔᴉN ...eh?
 
JUST DO IT
oh my
 
12:52 AM
Wow. I am disappoint.
This looks like butter still.
 
use it, it can't be that bad if it looks like butter am i right?
 
I really don't trust that logic. I had this package of feta eight or so months ago and I noticed when I went to clean out my refrigerator back then that it still looked like feta, and kept it around to see how long it would take to grow visibly bad. After two months I realized that it was, in fact, coated in a very thin layer of white mold.
I noticed this because I was inspecting it with incredulity.
It looked almost exactly like it had at the start of its time in my fridge
 
doesn't cheese get better as it ages?
 
@ʞɔᴉN I think feta might be an exception considering its submerged in water
 
Pretty sure that's only under controlled conditions that are still sanitary
 
12:57 AM
I did it.
I am the moved into College.
 
@Borgleader ah, didn't even know that
 
It only took 8 more hours than anticipated.
 
never had any
 
How was teh Jam?
 
@ThePhD Yay!
 
12:58 AM
@ThePhD IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS
and congrats!
 
@ʞɔᴉN It's pretty delicious with spinach, toasted pecans and a sweet fruit
 
@ThePhD :O Congratz
 
like pears ...or strawberries (;_;)
 
haha
 
 
1:00 AM
@ʞɔᴉN Nice!
 
I selected for the contents of my crepes: a white peach, two mangoes a kiwi and a banana. It will be an experiment!
 
WHere's the Honeydew Melon?
 
@sehe haha!
 
@sehe "iq test"
 
@ThePhD Abandoned in my forgetfulness
 
1:00 AM
187 dummies is a strange unit for the measurement anyways
 
@jaggedSpire Hrm... well, you'll be forgiven your sins this time.
 
@sehe there was a dot =/
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ it probably means you missed the context. And some flags
 
@ThePhD whew
 
@Borgleader Doesn't really change it (just that the amount is specified in floating point, then)
 
1:02 AM
nice save
 
well played sir
 
Darth Hyneman and Jedi Savage go head-to-head in this epic season finale. RETWEET if you're watching! #MythBusters https://amp.twimg.com/v/acb06f64-5ebb-48c4-b618-5b4ffb65ff91
 
I found a healthy crepe recipe. It calls for a tablespoon of sugar, and brags about having no butter.
 
holy shit i have to see this
@jaggedSpire Only one tablespoon? :(
 
@Borgleader Aren't legit crepes supposed to be flour, eggs, butter and salt, and get the flavor from their innards?
 
1:05 AM
idk, i think my dads recipe has sugar in it. Not that it would matter considering I eat them with maple syrup :3
 
@Borgleader :3 good times
 
:4 good times
 
This one's more promising, with eggs, flour and milk
@Nooble yes, it is worthy of licking one's lips. Crepes are damn tasty, however they're made.
 
> "thecoshman is an irredeemably revolting pick pocket and a narcissistic mattress-soiling assault on the ocular senses."
"jefffrey is a sickly cretinous cretin and a perverse feces-collecting blight upon society."
"sehe is a lamentably perverted slattern and a wearisome coma-inducing pulp of stultifying inanity."
"elyse is an outrageously decadent reprobate and a repugnant soul-destroying buggering buttock bandit."
Where has that site been all these years? Intellisult FTW
> buttock bandit
lol
 
@sehe IRTA as intellislut.
Brainpls.
Buttock bandit wasn't helping me there.
 
1:15 AM
Sounds about right
 
> jaggedSpire is an abominably backward nincompoop and a gluttonous maliciously malodorous sub-literate simple minded mental midget.
wow
 
Seems on point. :P
 
@jaggedSpire yeah, nincompoop
 
> Elim Garak is a monstrously blabbering oaf and a depraved flesh-creeping chromosome-deficient test tube experiment.
 
> Winnix
thecoshman is making a new OS
 
1:26 AM
@sehe (;_;) I am left wretched in despair that you think that of me. Woe!
 
Don't mix Pringles and chocolate.
 
... that sounds like a wretched combination
 
Especially extra cheesy Pringles.
 
@ElimGarak on point
 
@ElimGarak Woe!
@ElimGarak I would ask why, but I'm not in a position to question odd food combinations.
 
1:31 AM
Gas. Fierce gas.
 
Righteous smog?
 
can't believe I just saw Kasper's comment, this is gold
 
Yeah :D
 
I'm pretty active in the JS room and I've never seen him there actually
 
user406009
@Nooble Have you collected all of the marmalade II entries?
 
1:38 AM
@ʞɔᴉN Kasper's comment? Link me!
 
user406009
How is judging going to happen?
 
@ThePhD it's on the starboard
actually I checked the JS transcript and it looks like he drops by like once a month
 
15 hours ago, by Kasper
@TonyTheLion what kind of person are you really, I'm active at several chats, related to javascript. dart and polymer, and if someone asks me a question, that I know, I'm trying to be helpfull, if I don't know it, I just ignore it, what is the point of being such a bitch ? but okay, maybe C programmers are just not as nice people as web developers... surely leaving here, never seen such a rude chat in my life
 
user406009
To be fair, Kasper does have a point. Being unnecessary antagonistic is sorta counterproductive.
 
@ʞɔᴉN which makes his reaction even better
 
user406009
1:40 AM
Just ignore if you don't want to answer.
 
he's actually not that bad, but that single comment does make him sound pretty pretentious
 
He called us C programmers.
sniffs imperiously
 
user406009
What?
 
> maybe C programmers are just not as nice people as web developers
 
@Lalaland yeah I think this room tends to do that a lot
 
user406009
1:42 AM
@jaggedSpire Well, so he knows absolutely nothing about C++ or C.
 
user406009
Even a broken clock can still be right twice a day.
 
user406009
The JavaScript room is much more sane about questions.
 
Unless its electronic, or running late
 
user406009
People ask, and then they get ignored.
 
@Lalaland I know, I know.
@Lalaland ahaha
 
1:43 AM
@Lalaland i've seen some pretty snappy responses there too
 
I'm not arguing that we're friendly, I'm sarcastically saying the reaction was justifiable because he called us C programmers.
 
@jaggedSpire when you have to go this far into the explanation you know the joke is lost on him :P
 
@ʞɔᴉN eh, the confusion is understandable, since there is no sarcasm tag
 
agreed
 
I'd say whenever I use fancy language to describe my own actions, I'm being facetious, but I use plenty of doily-language without being deliberately ironic.
And I'm out of white flour
 
1:47 AM
I firmly believe that our unique approach to help vampires is a big part of the Lounge<C++> brand.
3
 
Elim Garak 2016
5
 
I'd joi8ng for chat, but I canny see whit
 
Also, everyone who mixes up C++ with C is simply asking for it.
 
Intellisult just told me I have delusions of adequacy.
 
@jaggedSpire Whoa!
No.
Nooble 2016.
6
 
1:49 AM
starts laughing
 
user406009
Don't we have a spare spot for room owner open?
 
Star Wars MMXVI
 
@Lalaland Thanks Catbama.
 
(I really don't want any responsibility) Just shits and giggles.
 
user406009
Nah, we have to do the whole charade. I'm waiting for the attack ads. "Don't vote for Nooble, he's a noodle." "Don't vote for Elim, he advocates DirectX which is literally Hitler"
 
user406009
1:52 AM
Have to think of an actual rhyme.
 
@Lalaland :P
@ElimGarak Don't vote for yourself that's cheating.
 
@ElimGarak Oooh.
 
@Nooble I starred your 2016 message, but not Elim's
because I can't star my own messages
 
I starred both because I'm playing both sides
 
1:53 AM
It's ThePhWanker.
 
user406009
You guys don't need to announce your stars. We can all see them.
 
I starred everything because I like pressing buttons.
 
I starred nothing because I'm solving an anagram
 
Hahaha I still can't get info logs from shaders.
 
@Nooble from compiling them?
 
1:54 AM
Give up and use DirectX. :P
 
Need to focus on homework.
@Borgleader Yes.
 
Prepare yourself for Vulkan.
 
@Nooble What I do in llogl doesnt work? because it sure as hell does for me =/
 
GLSL fo life
 
If you're learning graphics APIs, don't study legacy. Start with DX12 and use it as a knowledge basis for Vulkan when it arrives. I am serious.
 
Also, you can benefit from strong graphics debugging tools.
 
I think we do practically the same thing.
Except you use vector<char>, and I use string.
 
For example, it is like learning C when you are mere months away from C++. (although the 1980s are far from today)
 
@Nooble Weird, I do pretty much that and it works fine
 
@Borgleader Ah let me test it again.
 
user406009
1:57 AM
@ElimGarak You know what. That's actually a decent argument for learning DX 12. I guess I'll spin up my windows partition this weekend.
 
Yeah, even if you want Vulkan, getting some alone time with DX12 will let you ease in when it hits.
 
user406009
@ElimGarak Does DX 12 require recent graphics card support?
 
@Lalaland Haswell, GCN and Fermi (although, realistically Kepler). But you can use software rasterization (WARP) if you don't have the hardware.
 
user406009
Actually, it looks like Intel has a positive "screw you". intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-033757.htm
 
user406009
DirectX : 11
 
2:00 AM
@ElimGarak early c++ seems horrible
 
Folks from Rockstar San Diego used WARP for quite a few months, before moving to hardware. (The guys behind RDR and the RAGE engine which drives GTA IV+)
 
I feel like learning C would have been way more valuable for a long time
 
I am so dumb I set left click as talk button on my mac
 
Well, months away from C++ being interesting.
 
on a bus, left ear phone at home
coz I have to left click a lot on mac & mumble went berserk
 
2:03 AM
@tel he
 
sounds embarassing
 
I am writing DX12 toys on a surface pro right now. It is 3 am, it is raining outside and typing on this little thing is really fun, especially testing because it stuffs 2160x1440 pixels into a screen with a 12" diagonal.
 
where ou hink you go?
 
of all the keys available..
 
mno
 
2:04 AM
Uhm, 4 am. Damn switching from linux messes up my time.
 
user406009
~ is the best mumble key.
 
how about the power button (if it's possible) :p
 
Alt F4 works best for me
 
@ElimGarak ah, the magic key that solves all problems
 
Yeah, it mutes everyone forever while you talk.
 
2:06 AM
@Lalaland I didn't choose the Alt life, the Alt life chose me.
 
night fuckrs
 
Night drunkard <3
 
het
 
Fap to something nice
 
Im onl hal very drub;
 
2:06 AM
and by that, I mean I was talking about how I hated having backticks everywhere every time I spoke and Borgleader talked sense at me
@thecoshman I don't even know what that means. Good night though
 
fg ygou
 
@thecoshman No thanks
 
@thecoshman Fucking gorgeous, you gorgeous onion umbrella.
 
Still, may you wake without a hangover
 
whoever said moving android project from eclipse to android studio is easy should be shot
 
2:11 AM
Same goes for folks who write mobile apps in 2015. :P
 
is debugging the same as writing?
 
That's even worse :P
Oooh, new episode of Blunt talk. Yay.
 
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeah
 
@DonLarynx yeah?
 
2:20 AM
woo i finished Hotline Miami (with special ending)
 
I am watching Patrick Stewart <3 He's like my TV dad
 
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()

gdb is so helpful.
 
user406009
@DonLarynx That cat at least looks normal. The "No" cat looked really screwed up. Like it did some LSD or something.
 
user406009
@Nooble Compile with debugging symbols?
 
user406009
Try running under valgrind?
 
2:26 AM
@Lalaland Pretty sure I am.
 
things I am bad at making:

- puns
- pancakes
- crepes
 
user406009
How could you be bad at making pancakes?
 
user406009
That would be like burning water.
 
user406009
They are so simple.
 
@Lalaland I'm talented like that
 
2:27 AM
in my case its:
- puns
- programs
- partners
;p
 
Making pancakesi s very difficult
 
It's the flipping that gets me.
 
user406009
Make them smaller.
 
Maybe I should use an actually non-stick pan
 
user406009
Then the flipping is easier.
 
2:28 AM
@Lalaland maybe he has a higher standard than you :p
 
@Borgleader :P
I'm presently using a non-stick pan, but the coating is scratched off in the middle
 
Jagged is a she
 
yes
 
@chmod711telkitty nah, I'm pretty sure my scrambled batter doesn't deserve the title of "pancake"
They always, always stick to the pan so thoroughly that I break them in the process of getting them unstuck
 
user406009
Try a buffer spray? Or just butter?
 
2:31 AM
I don't have butter
but I can apply more oil.
The oil doesn't stick to the pan, though. :|
It just beads up
 
user406009
They sell these non-stick sprays.
 
user406009
 
user406009
They are quite good.
 
Lounge<Cooking>
 
user406009
I think we have covered a lot of topics here.
 
2:34 AM
more oil for the fire
 
I just tried more oil. Ow.
 
user406009
I mean, every now and then I look back at chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/25164210#25164210
 
It proceeded to spit oil everywhere, stick to the pan and then nearly burn. I scraped it off the pan before it did, but it fell apart again.
 
user406009
That was a clusterfuck of a discussion.
 
Okay, it's out of the pan now.
It's singed at the edges and raw in parts. I don't even know how.
 
user406009
2:38 AM
The trick is to use low-medium heat.
 
@Lalaland Is that a death star hiding behind the cookies? D:
 
It's a flatbread the thickest it gets is an eighth of an inch
@Lalaland next on the list
 
I didn't have breakfast or lunch & I am not hungry ...
12:40pm
 
user406009
Sounds like a perfect day for a MegaDinner then.
 
Looks like it segfaults on the return of a static instance of my singleton.
 
2:43 AM
@Lalaland MegaDinner?
 
Can it be the static order initialization fiasco.
 
Will have something before dinner for sure.
 
God damn singletons.
 
user406009
@ʞɔᴉN It's what I do when I am too lazy to leave my room until night. Stroll down to Chipolte and order a bunch of food.
 
@Nooble guess who told you not to use singletons? /cc @ScottW
 
2:44 AM
Also /cc @jaggedSpire.
 
user406009
Singletons are evil. But sometimes they are a necessary evil.
 
WHY MUST I SUFFER
 
user406009
(Cough, cough, Java Servlet API's)
 
I am not touching singletons with a 10 foot pole.
 
user406009
@jaggedSpire Life is suffering.
 
2:45 AM
@Lalaland honestly my mental performance just plummets if I don't have food every x hours or so
I cannot just have a single meal
 
@Lalaland It was going perfect! and then I tried to flip it.
I carefully unstuck it, and then tried to flip it.
 
user406009
It's easy to screw up the flips. It doesn't really matter though.
 
I didn't do it too soon--it was brown on the other side
but it restuck itself to the pan
 
user406009
You must have a really hot stove.
 
and now I have crepe-spatula again
 
2:46 AM
should've used that 2 yr old butter
 
Year and a half, tyvm
 
Alright fuck singletons.
 
I'd show you all a picture of this fantastic crepe-lump, but I don't have a decent camera
@Nooble yes
 
I'll just use a normal class and hopefully people read the "DON'T CREATE TWO INSTANCES" memo.
 
2:48 AM
Also on the isocpp FAQ for static initialization fiasco
> If you think it’s “exciting” to play Russian Roulette with live rounds in half the chambers, you can stop reading here.
 
@Nooble be careful, it could trigger a deep copy with unexpected results. Try to kill the constructor.
 
I made a javascript singleton once, it was terrible
 
user406009
@Nooble Why do you need a singleton in the first place?
 
it's still being used though. on a production server
 
@Lalaland OpenGL's contexts are super not fun at all.
 
user406009
2:49 AM
@ʞɔᴉN You should see the game jam BartekBanachewicz and I made.
 
@Borgleader But my bigger pan is aluminum and doesn't have a non-stick coating at all.
 
user406009
Everything is a singleton.
 
user406009
Use the non-stick sprays.
 
@Lalaland I think the logic was because OpenGL only allows a single context, he could include his own code in a singleton
 
2:49 AM
That pan laughs at non-stick sprays
 
Tomorrow: redesign context class and fix the damned interface.
 
cooking tofu in it is just completely impossible
 
@Lalaland I'm afraid to look at the code
 
And tonight, I shall rest.
 
you have to stick to...pancakes...
...
 
2:50 AM
It's a good thing I got this error.
 
-_-
 
t(-_-)t
 
._.
 
user406009
Wait. The OpenGL specs claim:
 
user406009
> A process can create multiple OpenGL contexts
 
2:50 AM
Yes, you can!
 
user406009
That doesn't sound like a singleton.
 
Haha but but--take a look on how they work. They share some data, but not others. It's a whole clusterfuck of "do not want".
 
dunno, that's what nooble was saying
or at least that's how I interpreted it
when in doubt BLAME NOOBLE
 
@Lalaland Careful, you need to detach contexts
 
I just want dinner. It's almost 10pm
 
user406009
2:52 AM
@Mikhail RAII and helper objects similar to lock_guards.
 
Ah I can do that, delete the previous instance to ensure only one is alive.
Wait.
 
that's terrible
 
But then all my shader objects are invalidated.
 
@Nooble THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
 
:(
 
user406009
2:53 AM
You don't delete the previous instance. Can't you detach it?
 
@Lalaland Using glfw? I don't think so.
 
@Lalaland Something like that, but make sure that you don't break the parallelism in your code. Usually used to separate logic and rendering.
 
@Lalaland Ohhhhhhhh.
Yes.
 
2:56 AM
Hey anyone has experience with Wayland in here?
 
not me
 
user406009
Probably not.
 
@ReX357 No one here is crazy. Well...
 
I am.
 
user406009
Stackoverflow would probably be a better bet for getting an answer.
 
2:57 AM
@Nooble I resent that remark
 
he didn't mention you specifically
not in this chat anyways
 
@jaggedSpire I resent that, Remark.
 
Does anybody worry that having #include <condition_variable> in your h files is slowing down the compilation?
 
yeah no, this pan is made for sticking
The only thing that changed is it stuck even faster
 
user406009
@Mikhail Why specifically that file?
 
2:59 AM
Fuck it, fruit for dinner. The crepe batter can go sit the the fridge in shame
 

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