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12:04 AM
@EtiennedeMartel ...but ideas of what "they shouldn't have been doing in the first place" differ radically based on time and location. The Old Testament rules of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" sound barbaric to most people today--but at the time, they were (I'm quite certain) intended to at least limit retribution. There have been (and continue to be) societies where you could be killed because somebody didn't like how you looked at them (or something equally innocuous).
The same thing arises in how people of opposite sexes treat each other. Quite a bit of what was seen as reasonable or even admirable when I was young is now seen as clearly condescending and unacceptable.
 
I need to make money somehow.
 
buy cs
get skins
sell skins
 
> make
@AlexM. That sounds like a surefire way to lose money.
 
depends on your luck
 
@AlexM. see that space in boy friend? thats the friendzone
(content not original ^)
 
12:12 AM
my luck stopped a while ago
 
> I'm not trying to bash C++ coders or anything, but compared to the newer and more popular (and frankly just plain better in my opinion) languages out there like Java, why bother with C++? Is there anything C++ can do that Java can't do better or make more convenient?
 
but when it reached its climax I made ~250 eur in profits with a 30 eur investment, with the investment over 3 months or so
 
220euro profit?
wut
 
so it was really just me spending 2.5 eur one time and boom, lucky drop
 
thats insane, i want me some exxtra money
 
12:13 AM
sell skin, buy more cases, another lucky drop
repeat, another lucky drop
decide to buy witcher 3 and some other games instead because luck is not permanent
 
I'd love to get 220 euros.
 
worth noting that most people don't get this lucky
:A
so you probably don't want to go in dreaming of winning
my CS idea was a joke btw
you'd have better chances throwing your money away at a casino
actually I'd trust a casino more than valve
@Nooble no but seriously get the game because it's great
train hard and go pro
???
make money
(it's actually more likely than you think since US players are really bad compared to their EU counterparts)
(so any skilled player there is appreciated)
 
which games are the most lucrative if you go pro?
nooble join the fighting game community
 
probably MOBA players from asia
 
*static_cast<long*>(malloc(sizeof(long))) = 1; // not using placement new here. is this legal?
 
12:22 AM
IIRC they make the most $$$ in the whole pro scene
 
you can make money by challenging people pretty quickly
 
you don't make money yourself
 
and there are a ton of tournaments with decent pay outs (but not as big as mobas or starcraft or whatever)
 
money in the pro scene comes from sponsors and the company that owns you as a player or team
you're thinking semi-pro or amateur tournaments where anyone can join
 
yeah
 
12:24 AM
Ubisoft has an esports team lol
Ubinited
 
what games do they even have that are competitive
 
they don't, they have a team in the scene
it's an all-female CS GO team
I haven't really seen teams owned by companies in CS GO that are really good
the best teams are businesses on their own
i.e. independent of some company to fund them because they make their own money
 
@AlexM. Wait a second... Any money I get only goes to my Steam Wallet, which can't be exchanged for real money :(
 
@Nooble you buy keys with wallet money
and sell keys for real $$$
by keys I mean case keys or crate keys
 
Yeah I guess.
But the chances of me getting super lucky are rare.
 
12:28 AM
or you can choose not to sell items on the marketplace and trade them for keys
 
Just get good at fighting games and challenge people at arcades for money
what could go wrong
 
e.g. one of the rarest knives at the release of a new case was like ~900 keys
get one, trade it for 900 keys
sell 900 keys with $1.5 each
(or more if you can find someone)
@Nooble here's a quote from a guy I know
> I owned one of the rarest and most expensive knives in the game.

Highlights:
- There are only four like it in the whole game, usually none of them are available for purchase or trading
- This is the famous knife that was once sold for $23,000 when there was only one
- It's worth about $15,000 cash value, or about 9,000-10,000 keys in-game value
yes someone paid $23k for a CS GO knife texture
 
Ahem
Hi I'm currently looking for programming competitions; know of any?
 
thats stupid =/
 
My employer wants to start hosting a new program for middle school kids and wants it to be competition orientated
 
12:36 AM
and yet i feel like play GO now
 
@Borgleader his case is a bit meh because he never got rich because of the game
he owns a webdev business here so he used the fact that he was already really rich
to get even richer via CS GO
he recently sold all of the things from his inventory, got lots of money
only recently he placed a large sum of money (which was really like 5% of what he could afford to place) on a really unlikely match, and won like $15k in skins
 
is stackoverflow down for anyone else?
 
@Borgleader SO simple. SO good.
 
@Cinch start a program for middle school kids and make sure it's spelling oriented* instead
 
12:41 AM
i swear it went down for a few minutes
 
SO was down for me too earlier today
 
@AlexM. orientatated*
 
it happens from time to time
 
That's correct
@AlexM. Sorry what?
 
@Cicada orientationated
 
12:48 AM
...
Wow it's another UK vs US thing
 
Orientationatenitionated
 
Ororororororororororororotatatattaatatatatiiiieeedddd
 
object orientated programming
 
@Cinch lol
 
12:51 AM
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Q: "Oriented" vs. "orientated"

Tom RavenscroftWhat are the origins of the word orientated? As far as I know, the correct spelling is oriented and orientated is not an alternative spelling but an error that is in common use. Is it for example more commonly used in a certain country or by a certain people? Is there a reason for people choosi...

 
> an incredible 5541
no
 
Um
 
@chmod711telkitty … radius …
 
@AlexM. Short summary: Brits speak English poorly.
3
 
we should hide that from LRiO
 
12:57 AM
@chmod711telkitty If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd guess the radius it shows is the effective radius of the equipment (radar and such) being used.
 
could be ....
 
Jerry could you please leave out sensible reasoning outside this room
 
@Cicada I suppose I could try, but I'm not sure I'd succeed.
 
Does anyone get why this question this question has so many upvotes?
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Q: How to read a file very fast in C?

beasoneI have a file, its size is 1.7G. It looks like: 1 1427826 1 1427827 1 1750238 1 2 2 3 2 4 3 5 3 6 10 7 11 794106 . . and son on. It has about ten millions of lines in the file. Now I need to read this file and store these numbers in my data structure within 15 seconds. I have...

OP wants to read and parse a file in 15 seconds. But it takes 23 seconds to read the data.
Unless I misunderstood something.
 
> I have tried to use freed()
Welp.
 
1:07 AM
@Mysticial In fairness, he does say something to the effect that even if he can't manage 15 seconds, he at least wants to improve on 80 (which certainly seems like it should be possible).
 
1.7 GB in 15 seconds is something only a high-end HD or an SSD can do.
Unless it's RAID.
 
or those fancy PCI-E SSDs
I heard they're ultra-fast or sth
 
Speaking of SSDs, I need to get one for my laptop. The shit takes forever to do anything.
 
@Mysticial when are those non-sata SSDs gonna be affordable :(
 
> The Rust team is excited to review your changes
 
1:09 AM
i want one for my next PC build
 
no they fucking aren't
 
@Borgleader There are ones that plug into two SATA ports. I forgot what they're called.
 
@Cicada nobody is ever excited to do anything unless it's eating pizza
 
@Mysticial SAS (Serial Attached SCSI).
 
In any case, the SSD bandwidth is overkill for most people.
 
1:09 AM
eating pizza is always exciting
 
@JerryCoffin I think SAS is different, though it also has a gazzilion meanings.
The SAS that I know of is the mini-SAS thing that spawns into 4 SATAs.
 
welp, it's morning
time to go sleep
cya
 
@Mysticial im not most ppl! :P
 
That one I know because my HD server has 2x SAS for 8 SATA drives.
@Borgleader What are you going to be doing with all that bandwidth? Running my pi program? :P
 
@Mysticial benchmarking all the game loading times :P
 
1:12 AM
@Borgleader Use a ram drive.
 
it would be more expensive than the SSD
 
@Mysticial Yup--but he can probably improve on his current reading speed a little (e.g., if he's on Windows, CreateFile with FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING), and overlap it with the conversion, so it can be done in ~20-25 seconds.
@Borgleader But a whole lot faster...
 
If I ever need to enter a gaming loading competition:
1. Disable speed-step in the BIOS. Lock the frequency of all cores to 4+ GHz.
2. Turn on a 48 GB ram drive (or however large it needs to be) and copy the game into it.
3. Boot up the game.
It might be trickier if the game tries to load from Program Files, so I might want to try warming the disk cache by preloading the game a few times.
copying the entire contents of the game to another location will also put it in the disk cache.
 
> gaming loading competition
what
 
@JerryCoffin Sounds a lot like the stuff I do in my Pi program.
 
1:21 AM
@Mysticial Yeah--now that you mention it, I think we even discussed it here a couple years ago or so.
Yup.
Jul 1 '13 at 16:01, by Mysticial
@JerryCoffin Yeah. FILE_FLAG_NO_BUFFERING It probably isn't a true DMA, but it's low enough where it's serves the purpose.
 
That was a long time ago.
 
@Mysticial Time flies when you're having fun writing code.
 
Damn, that was right when I started at Google.
 
I just saw the message on the starboard about Java having the same performance as C++
24 carat gold right there
 
@Borgleader s/ having the same performance as C++/
 
1:32 AM
@Borgleader Oh god. I just googled his name on google images.
 
lol why?
 
@Mysticial If I recall correctly, you'd signed up, but not actually started yet, and wanted to get a new version out before you actually started working there, so there'd be no room for question about ownership.
 
i want to learn game development using directx which one should buy .... frank luna's directx 11 version or 12? If i buy 12 will it cover later versions as well or basic history sort of thing.

http://www.amazon.in/Introduction-3D-Game-Programming-Directx/dp/1936420228

http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Programming-DirectX-Computer-Science/dp/1942270062
?
 
This is not the place to ask this kind of questions.
 
so where should i ask stackexchange gamer developers version of site? @Cicada
 
1:45 AM
Maybe. Read their rules.
 
gamer * game
ok
can anyone tell me what's chat room name for Game Development Stack Exchange? for programmers stackexchange its Whiteboard but they are very much hidden...can't see them on top of site....
pretty difficult to look into
got it....googled :) so stupid of me
 
@androidplusios.design OpenGL.
The koala prefers it.
 
Sigh.
I have no idea what I'm still doing up.
I need to get my circadian rhythm right again.
 
maybe you are up so you can make better friends with fellow loungers before you are heading off to unconference #2?
 
1:59 AM
I'll go to unconference when I no longer have school.
Presumably three to four years from now.
See you guys in unconference #6.
 
2:16 AM
> A SuperPAC devoted to raising awareness of SQL injections.
At least something good came out from HN.
 
2:28 AM
no @Nooble please no open source....i want microsoft support :p
each has its own weakness & strengths
 
> auto price = double();
lol
 
But the car's still free!
 
2:43 AM
I wish stack exchange android app had chat room also :)
I would have then deleted my apps: facebook, tumblr, twitter, vk, g++, whatapp, hike.....lot of mess would have been cleared
just homies :p
 
> You're a woolly mammoth!
> So unique, you're technically extinct. But on the bright side, scientists hope to be able to clone you some day!
Thanks Google.
 
Scored the same one
 
8/10 programmers probably dunno
 
@androidplusios.design You don't like open source?
 
2:57 AM
@Cicada Wait what is this?
 
@Nooble You're already a koala. Don't mind it.
 
@MarkGarcia A koala can dream of being other animals.
 
A koala can only dream. :P
 
Link please :)
 
3:02 AM
I'm a mantis shrimp!
Not as glorious as a koala, but still great.
A welcome change from several shades of grey.
 
3:14 AM
@Nooble i like open source but there is not much of support with open source project like microsoft would
 
It's too damning not to be true!
 
3:30 AM
^ From this talk in case anyone wondered.
lol @cat's reaction
 
> Failuer
 
@Cicada It's mispelled.
 
it's a total faileur
 
3:59 AM
Ahh...
After C++ class...
I finally finished my sudoku parser
 
 
Confused... sudoku parser?
 
@HWalters I created a basic parser
it's really lame
but {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9} repeated 9 times creates a sudoku grid
It supports variable size sudoku grids too
It also has syntax checking
I feel accomplished because it's a nice encapsulated object
and it's part of a team too
 
So if I might ask, what makes it a sudoku parser versus a digit sequence parser?
Is it part of a sudoku solver perhaps?
 
@HWalters It will be
@HWalters Also it's resilient to input "errors"
 
4:16 AM
@Feeds idgi
 
4:37 AM
Poor thing, most likely gets to write market connectivity in Chicago, which will get boring after 12 months.
 
Market connectivity gets boring after 2 months
 
Thought you would know coz you are IT expatriate working in HongKong ...
 
stalker
 
4:52 AM
@rightfold Is Yosemite good?
 
hiii
 
hello
 
whats up
 
Murders of black people by white policemen, why?
 
because they are not human :p
 
5:01 AM
And yet we give them a gun
 
whats going on @Cicada
 
5:17 AM
TIL there's over 250 billion photos on Facebook.
That can't be right..
 
may be
how do u find this information??
 
@StackedCrooked +1 billion subscribers, with an average of 250 photos each. Perfectly within reality.
 
Damn.
What a waste of storage :P
 
Roof has only been completed a week ago, already 2-3 piles of bird shit inside & a dead lizard on a roof batten. FU bird!
 
Half of which spurring out the same pics of their same faces.
At the same day.
 
5:27 AM
That particular batten was put on only 48 hours ago. I am sure there was nothing there back then.
Wtf bird? Y o y, leaving ur meal unattended there!!!
 
@chmod711telkitty Something feels wrong with how the diagonal beams are attached to the horizontal ones.
But I'm not an expert in construction.
 
Looks like telkitty builds her house like her software.
 
@Cicada Rarely an easy explanation of why--or even certainty that what happened was a murder in the first place.
 
@MarkGarcia still working on the roof battens, it was incompleted in that picture. Probably that's why it feels wrong.
@Cicada no one leaves dead lizard in my unfinished code, NO 1!!1!
 
5:44 AM
@LightningRacisinObrit was in my review today of low quality posts. Easy test lol stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/7782712
 
Good morning ladies and gentleman
 
I clicked a link for a search about Cloudfare MITM. I was met by a Cloudflare captcha.
 
@MarkGarcia seems legit :)
 
Our connection's being checked every now and then by Cloudflare pages.
 
Is there any good captcha open source?
 
5:55 AM
@deW1 True--it is pretty obviously a low-quality post.
 
lol
 
@JerryCoffin that's why I failed it by clicking Looks Ok
lol _t->recordlocation((*reinterpret_cast< int(*)>(_a[1])),(*reinterpret_cast< int(*)>(_a[2]))); break; 0 points readability :D
 
@deW1 That's not even close to 0--it's definitely somewhere in the negative range.
 
6:39 AM
I'm trying to write a code using BlueZ API and Yocto , one C function I'm using has deceleration defined in hci_lib.h which is located at

/poky/build/tmp/work/armv5te-poky-linux-gnueabi/bluez4/4.101-r5/bluez-4.101/lib

Can you tell me how can I include this header file in my Yocto project recipe ?
 
7:10 AM
good morning bitches
a word for which I remind you I got suspended once /cc @Columbo
@Waqas Are you sure it's a public header? Looks more like part of a staging area for a library build. Read the documentation to find out how you're supposed to use that function, if at all.
Assuming it's a function.
And don't say "a code".
@deW1 Hah!
 
@LightningRacisinObrit you just got flagged again -_-
 
seriously???
 
@LightningRacisinObrit yep, the gm part
 
these guys spent half an hour last night calling me "cunt" repeatedly yet all my flags were declined!!!
the double standard is outstanding
 
lolwut
 
7:15 AM
thanks kitty
ok more lile five minutes and it was a joke but then so was "good morning bitches"!
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Yes.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Then there must be some truth in it.
 
implying it was this room
it's probably the people over in the Python and JS rooms
 
7:19 AM
I declined it btw
 
I've still gotta travel into the office anyway so it doesn't really affect me
how do you like dem apples kitz
 
Alright, who the fuck is flagging harmless shit?
 
Django's ORM sucks
 
user1804599
@Mysticial Idiots.
 
user1804599
@khajvah s/Django's //
 
7:19 AM
Fools, cretins
inb4 flag
 
@LightningRacisinObrit makin it double eh
 
so I made it down to breakfast for the first time in ages. what cereal should I have hmmm
 
Cinnamon Toast Crunch
 
be serious now
 
excuse me
 
7:21 AM
@Rapptz That stuff is all you can eat in our kitchen. I have too much of it every day.
 
you are excused
 
@Rapptz nah, the regulars usually decline this kind of flag
 
Cinnamon Toast Crunch is top tier cereal.
 
user1804599
ORMs are complex, therefore they suck.
 
@FlorianMargaine Not sure then.
 
7:23 AM
corn flakes it is
 
fucking bland cereal
might as well eat paper
 
complexity isn't a vice, rightfold
watch West Wing S4
 
At the very least, it should be frosted.
 
too sugary for my tastes nowadays
loved them in my youth though
 
user1804599
BASH: Broken Again SHell
 
7:28 AM
Yo, any runtime loading lib (dlopen etc.) recommendation for C++? Dunno if I care more about portability or C++-ness.
 
user1804599
I once wrote one but deleted it.
 
sys admin job is so boring
 
> "He took the computer into the back alley and fired eight shots into the computer with a handgun, effectively disabling it," it added.
 
sorry khashmir
lol America where you can reasonably not realise that it's illegal to shoot a real gun in a city alleyway eight times
bbiab
 
7:38 AM
weird, suse enterprise repo includes memcached client but not the server itself
 
user1804599
Install Gentoo.
 
@LightningRacisinObrit Making yourself sound like an even more ignorant hick than usual today--if I hadn't seen it myself, I'd have thought that was impossible.
 
@rightfold aaaand wait for 3 hours to compile :D
 
user1804599
At least you don't have shit.
 
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lo (ish)
lol*
really bbiab now xxx
 
7:54 AM
@rightfold is Nok 'done' yet?
at least as far as the language goes, std lib I presume has plenty to be worked on
 
user1804599
@thecoshman No.
 
user1804599
I still have to implement this, varargs and more literals.
 
Ven
ew varargs
 
What is the short form of std::string("hello") in modern C++? Something with prefix or postfix operator?
 
@fredoverflow Looking for "hello"s?
 
user1804599
7:56 AM
std::string("hello").
 
user1804599
operator""s is in an obscure namespace.
 
What do I need to include?
 
Needs using namespace std::literals::string_literals; (or using namespace std::literals; if you don’t mind bringing the other UDLs).
@fredoverflow <string>
 
@rightfold can't you push a lot of literals out to a lib?
 
user1804599
@thecoshman Could.
 
user1804599
7:57 AM
But having to write float "1.32" is silly.
 
@rightfold seems in the spirit of Nok
 
user1804599
1.32f is way better.
 
@LucDanton clang doesn't seem to like it :(
 
why not make that syntactic sugar for float 1.32?
 
C++14 mode?
 
user1804599
7:58 AM
@thecoshman does that matter then?
 
user1804599
It'd only be surprising if you shadow float.
 
$ clang++ -std=c++14 counter.cpp
In file included from counter.cpp:1:
In file included from /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/../../../../include/c++/4.8/string:52:
In file included from /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/../../../../include/c++/4.8/bits/basic_string.h:2815:
In file included from /usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/../../../../include/c++/4.8/ext/string_conversions.h:43:
/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/../../../../include/c++/4.8/cstdio:120:11: error:
 
user1804599
Could have UDLs like C++. :P
 
-stdlib=libc++ if you have it
 
Fuck this shit, I'm just gonna write std::string("hello").
 

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