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12:05 AM
@Mysticial I saw the 2019, but just could not be bothered.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I invented something, but I'm not quite sure what it is.
 
@Mysticial oh, OP is Romanian
 
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OP is nothing but a faggot.
 
If they can't be bothered to Google the 2019 error and find out what it means, why should I bother? Fuck 'em.
 
his code is written in Romglish
 
12:08 AM
@MartinJames 2019 error...is that the one where the compiler takes 5 years to compile and link your stuff, errors, and sends the result back in time?
 
@melak47 That's the one, yes:)
It's sad, but my linker can issue errors faster than the the output stream can write them, so yes, I get time-warp:(
 
:)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes found a typo in your blog
 
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12:48 AM
ARRGGGH
 
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REFRAACTIIIOn
 
hows it looking now? :p
 
user3010322
I don't have words to describe how bad it looks.
 
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... And my triangles stopped drawing. q_q
 
use your words pictures
 
12:56 AM
@ThePhD gIMME LINK
 
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I'll have refraction tomorrow.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're making a raytracer too?
 
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Uh oh
 
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Something si horribly wrong with teh last commit
 
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1:09 AM
WHy is it making this awkward triangle. ;~;
 
Woo WvWvW is back on :)
 
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WvWvW ?
 
@ThePhD have you considered fastbuild?
 
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Whatis... fastbuild?
 
> FASTBuild is a high performance, open-source build system for game developers, supporting highly scalable compilation, caching and network distribution. Take a look at the development status and detailed feature breakdown for more information.
 
user3010322
1:18 AM
What compilers does it support?
 
I know it works with 2012 not sure about 2013
 
Windows-only :^)
 
Platform Linux
Linux Planned
 
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I'm planning to switch to GCC soon
 
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And build with MinGW
 
user3010322
1:28 AM
ANd use QtCreator
 
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But that's after May 15
 
thats oddly specific
 
after finals in the US
 
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Yeah
 
1:33 AM
So you still write the result in output.png right?
 
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No
 
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Well, it's optional
 
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Press S
 
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to Save
 
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Press R to retrace (when I implement loading from a file)
 
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1:35 AM
(So you can retrace a scene that's been changed)
 
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I might make it so you can draw boxes and retrace a certain part
 
a) I pressed S and the file is corrupted (according to Paint.NET & Windows Photo Viewer)
b) What you're rendering on the window is fucked up on my end =/
 
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Well, damn.
 
Could it be because I have 3 monitors?
Cause the image sort of looks like it has a 48:9 ratio
 
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No, I think I'm uh
 
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1:44 AM
Screwing u[
 
@Borgleader wat
Why would.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Idk the image was really wide so I thought maybe
 
user3010322
I don't know why, but it's not drawing right
 
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Uh. Let me check things and recommit what I have. And remove some of the debug stuff
 
Need some form of entertainment.
Nothing entertains me any more :(
 
1:48 AM
hire a personal court jester
 
You need a break. You sound like a guy who's been watching porn too often and now needs really kinky stuff to get off :P
im great at analogies i know
 
I already went through that phase like years ago
 
man, the middle ages must have been boring as hell, even for kings
entertainment at court = watching someone make a fool of himself
 
Yeah, right.
 
well by today's standards
 
1:50 AM
I bet they got a kick out of life.
All I've been doing for the past 2 days is sitting at home watching anime all day
 
that's entertaining
 
youre on vacation?
 
Sounds a lot more boring than being a medieval king.
 
I've been doing the same shit over and over for 10 years now and I'm still not bored
the internet always brings something new to entertain me :(
I wouldn't trade this for anything
 
@Borgleader Well, no. I meant with my free time.
 
1:52 AM
oh
 
Now I have 1 week of free time and I need something to do.
 
ive been reading the dresden files, so good
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hello.
 
hi
no rly bye :(
 
1:52 AM
@AlexM. I've been on the internet forever, most of it isn't really new or entertaining any more.
 
my last time walking past an authorised wifi zone tonighte
 
I must be too easy to entertain then
 
thought id check in
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol, hope you had fun.
 
hahabno not really
 
1:53 AM
Why has Lightness been drunk everyday for the past like 3 days?
 
theae derbyshire girls turned out to be absolute tossers
GO FIGURE
 
@Rapptz Vacation, I assumed.
 
haha becauae im on holiday bitch!
 
this reminds me, I have a bottle of beer I haven't tried before
 
lol
 
1:54 AM
not vacation
hiliday
anyway catch up with you on my schesyled wifi drop in 12 hours tata
 
cya
 
I'll give it a go in a bit
then promptly go to sleep
 
Hmm, that reminds I have some beer in the fridge that the folks brought when boardgaming last time and no one drank. Should give it to my flatmates or something.
 
why not drink it?
 
1:58 AM
I don't like it.
 
what beer is it?
 
Horrible people that leave beer in other's fridges.
 
I wish horrible people left beer in my fridge
I should make a beer map of europe and visit the best places to try different beers
 
@AlexM. Don't remember, and don't feel like going to the kitchen right now.
 
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2:17 AM
...
 
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What the fuck
 
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Is going on with these renders, <___>
 
Write tests.
 
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:c
 
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I don't have a reference implementation to test against.
 
2:17 AM
lowriders sure look awesome
the world needs more of them today
 
Write more fine-grained tests.
 
there's a single lowrider in my city, and I've only seen it once in my life
but it was great
 
Someone is arguing with me that game jams make better developers.
Meh.
Guess this is how I'm spending my Friday night :v
 
game development makes better game developers
 
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Practice makes Permanent
 
2:28 AM
jams are really game development competitions so technically jams do make better game developers
but I wouldn't put them above well thought personal projects
and I certainly wouldn't put them above professional projects where you deal with deadlines and all that
in the end, I guess you could say deadlines make better developers
 
I kinda stopped replying a while back.
Like all arguments online, it just decomposes into ad hominems.
And, in this case, cum hoc ergo propter hoc.
 
I tend to run away from arguments
 
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Deadlines make people do crazy shit, actually.
 
bravo well said everyone
;P
 
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2:33 AM
HOLY SHIT
 
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THIS CODE IS TERRIBLE
 
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WHY DID I WRITE THIS.
3
 
@ThePhD hey, something crazy might just be an awesome and innovative solution in the end
nothing gets your wheels spinning like emergencies do
 
@AlexM. Anyway, my main argument against game jams were that the deadlines are a decent thing but in the end if all you do are game jams then your code quality is incredibly terrible. A lot of game developers already suffer from poor code quality already and rushing to get something done isn't going to improve it.
 
that's a fair point
 
2:34 AM
@ThePhD You must learn to recognize bad code earlier in the process :)
 
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Well, I killed it with fire.
 
Not game related, but I got reminded of it anyway
 
> This is counterintuitive, because complaining about deadlines is a near-universal pastime.
 
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@Borgleader So I think I fixed the derping renderer. Yay~
 
You don't really need an article to tell you that people work better under time constraint.
 
2:37 AM
I had the opposite in mind
 
Just procrastinating a little bit will teach you that.
 
@ThePhD cool
 
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... But the image is still squishes.
 
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What the hell. :(
 
because it causes discomfort, you are more willing to solve things quickly to end it all
 
2:38 AM
People work better without MSVC.
 
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@AlexM. Sounds like a step above suicide.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ?
 
@ThePhD yeah if I put it like that
 
@Borgleader Not using MSVC is the secret for success.
 
there's also discomfort caused by the thought that if you don't meet the deadline you lose your job
so you are willing to solve things quickly to keep your job
 
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2:40 AM
It's true.
 
Ask yourself what happens after you finish it.
 
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100% of individuals not using MSVC sacrifice 40% less goats.
 
You're glad it's over but you're not entirely proud of it.
 
Fuck that. If I get to a point where keeping my job is a primary motivation, I'll be looking for a new one.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes But but... Resharper! :(
 
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2:41 AM
Resharper can't save VC++.
 
That too.
 
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Nothing can.
 
2:57 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes so are you all done with nonius?
 
I want to close all the issues left.
 
NONIUS-13Everything fails in MinGW ouch =/
You have a soul-crushing difficulty xD
 
3:21 AM
Is reflection more meaningful in object orientation than in the other paradigms?
What is there to reflect in, say Prolog?
 
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I'd like to reflect all my functional stuff.
 
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REVEAL ALL THE FUNCTIONS.
 
@StackedCrooked Nothing because no one uses Prolog :P
 
I have a (seemingly) correct solution, but it takes longer than 5 mins to run ;-(
 
3:35 AM
Why does everything fail in MinGW? @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
unfiltered beer sure looks impure
it's 7AM, haven't slept at all yet, and I'm removing spambots from forums
what a fun weekend
 
@Code-Guru this is a really old problem :v
In computer science, the longest common substring problem is to find the longest string (or strings) that is a substring (or are substrings) of two or more strings. Example The longest common substring of the strings "ABABC", "BABCA" and "ABCBA" is string "ABC" of length 3. Other common substrings are "AB", "BC" and "BA". ABABC ||| BABCA ||| ABCBA Problem definition Given two strings, S of length m and T of length n, find the longest strings which are substrings of both S and T. A generalisation is the k-common substring problem. Given the set of strings S = \{S_1...
 
4:31 AM
yah...I just want to solve it myself =p
 
 
2 hours later…
6:17 AM
alias snv=svn
I suck at typing.
 
Xeo
6:44 AM
still haven't worked on it :/
And since I'm not working much / at all with C++ right now (except for SO), I don't feel like working on it.
 
7:08 AM
isFlush hand         = Flush (sortBy compare values)
dafuq?
apparently I didn't know what I was doing when I wrote that code...
 
Xeo
lol
sort = sortBy compare? :P
 
I'm looking at some of my old PE code...
TIL ` on `
 
Xeo
compare `on` someView == comparing someView
 
let maxGc = maximumBy (\(name1, gc1) (name2, gc2) -> compare gc1 gc2) gcs
Could use compare `on` snd
 
Xeo
maximumBy (comparing snd) gcs
 
7:11 AM
oooo...comparing? gotta hoogle that one
 
Xeo
In Data.Ord IIRC
 
got it
on is still cool, too
sortBy compare still cracks me up...
 
Xeo
@Code-Guru sure, for everything but compare, which has the nicer comparing
 
that, too
 
Xeo
aaand I reached semantic satiation for compare
 
7:15 AM
hmm?
 
Xeo
when a word loses meaning through repetition
 
ahh...I've experienced that before...and then you just keep repeating the now meaningless word just cuz
so what's a handy way to sort in reverse order? comparing flip?
 
Xeo
that doesn't make sense
 
yah, I was bout to say that...
Is there a shorter way than sortBy (flip compare)?
or a more idiomatic way, I mean?
 
Xeo
I don't think so
 
7:24 AM
Looks like GHC.Ext has Down for this purpose...I don't quite grok how to use it, though.
 
Xeo
sort . map Down
or sortBy (comparing Down)
 
everything will still be wrapped in Down...
hmm
 
Xeo
actually, right below that: sortWith Down
(which is likely the same as sortBy (comparing Down))
 
> as in: then sortWith by Down x
 
Xeo
the map Down one wasn't a good idea because of the list still being wrapped, yeah
 
7:28 AM
I think this is supposed to just be sortWith Down
yah, that's what I was referring to
 
Xeo
@Code-Guru 'generalized list comprehension', aka SQL-like comprehension
 
oh...that's different than regular Haskell list comprehensions?
 
Xeo
it's an extension
 
^ amazon.co.uk
 
7:41 AM
@xeo awsum
Btw now that I'm sober
I've came to an amazing Lightness trolling idea. Next time he posts a starbait, just star it once
Nothing is more humiliating than one star
 
Xeo
you sure you're not drunk still?
 
:D
Dunno, people disrecommend driving on hangover
But I don't feel that bad, there were mostly beers
You can't get a serious hangover from beers because of the amount of water you inevitably consume.
All in all.
I have a lawn to mow.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Beer still has a "negative water balance".
@JohanLarsson I always think of FP when I see your avatar :)
 
are you scandanavian?
Larsson is such a Viking name
 
7:55 AM
What do you think, is he a Vi-king or an Emacs-king?
 
groan
 
VS-noob
@Code-Guru yep, Swedish
 
my grandmother came to the United States from Norway, so I have some affinity to that part of the world.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Oh yeah, one thing I forgot to mention: I have a little, 4yo brother who might "bother" us in the morning :P
 
8:10 AM
evening
 
@FredOverflow dat pun
 
Xeo
8:46 AM
29
Q: Is it good idea to send user password upon register?

Pavel JanicekI can imagine both ways - send / not send and still make it secure enough inside application. For instance: I get the password from "Enter your password" field, store it in email template and then save it securely (only its hash) in database Hi, <username> We just registred you at our supe...

Security is hard.
 
> I think starting with C++ is a great idea. Students of modern programming are having their lives made too easy and are missing the fundamental computer science principles. How memory works and how allocate it is but one example. lol
 
Xeo
ugh
 
@DeadMG Someone's asking about Wide:
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Q: A language that can seamlessly interop with C++?

Maik KleinI like to try out many different programming languages but I can never really use many of them in real projects because all important libraries that I need are written in C++. Usually I have to write a C-Interface which can be pretty time consuming, so I am wondering does a programming language ...

 
@rubenvb Actually.
I think he's asking about chaiscript.com
:v
 
Xeo
9:02 AM
@Rapptz I'm afraid to look at the implementation of that. And it also doesn't seem very "seamless".
 
Yeah I know
 
4
Q: Define main function in class

Manu343726I was wondering if its possible to define main() inside a class, something like: struct runtime_entry_point { friend int main() { } }; I have tested that and it doesn't work (Almost in GCC 4.8.2): g++ -o dist/Release/GNU-Linux-x86/turbo build/Release/GNU-Linux-x86/main.o ...

Hello Java World.
 
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9:25 AM
@StackedCrooked editor shortcuts.
 
Whatever you're doing: don't do it. — Miles Rout yesterday
 
Xeo
TIL: "over there" in Japanese can also mean "genitals". If, as a woman, you're saying "over there is wet", that could also be interpreted to mean "I'm wet".
 
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I’m starting to see why Japan is weird.
 
@Xeo Why would you ever say "over there is wet"?
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow "be careful, over there is wet"?
 
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9:34 AM
it’s wet
 
Cache.sh. Because life is short.
 
lol
 
Xeo
...
 
I once had the idea to serve the Coliru archive by calling svn cat instead of storing them all locally.
But svn cat can be slow, hence this little idea.
Which I didn't end up using, but didn't want to throw away either :)
 
user1804599
You had a problem, so you thought to use caching! Now you had a problem.
 
Xeo
9:44 AM
@StackedCrooked Wouldn't that always show the same stuff, and nothing new?
 
Yep.
I'm still looking for valid use cases.
 
@Xeo Slippery when wet?
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow The point was that it could accidentally come for Japanese learners
 
> It was obvious to me 20-some years ago that OOP wasn't a panacea.
I love that word. Panacea. Reminds me of pancakes and tea.
C++ is slow
C++ generates bloated code
There are no good C++ compilers
C++ is complicated
C++ doesn't offer much to systems programmers
"Advanced" C++ features are unsuitable for systems work
C++ code isn't portable
C++ doesn't have an ABI.
 
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Yay.
 
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9:57 AM
I have a working chat server right now.
 
Cool. When will you start work on the client?
 
user1804599
Right now.
 
awe.sum
 
aww.sum
 
user1804599
github.com/rightfold/postduif so little code. :3
 
9:58 AM
@rightfold Wow you certainly upped the ante there.
What's next? Snake?
 
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Noooo!
 
Tetris!
 
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I will never again attempt to make video games.
 
user1804599
Game development, what a horrible branch.
 
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9:59 AM
:D
 

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