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12:00 AM
@sehe That w6n't w6r2 f6r 0e. I would need the scroll lock on.
 
So how does one go about getting an account name changed here? I've come to think it might not be good that I used my real name.
 
@TonyTheLion I'm pretty serious, though
 
do you really expect me to explain that?
 
Especially now that you are learning C++
Incriminating stuff
 
12:01 AM
Soon, Google Ads will start suggesting Exorcists for you based on your unnatural tendencies to C++
 
especially since this rooms transcripts are indexed by the Googles
 
@JimNorton Your profile page > there's an edit button somewhere.
 
so soon I'm gonna be living in my own place, all by my lonely self
meaning I will have to be in this room a lot to get some kind of human interaction
 
Who did you use to share your dwelling with?
 
cause the closest IRL person I know will be a few 100 miles away
@sehe people
 
12:03 AM
Gasp
So... you ate them?
 
I know, strange right
yea
I like hanging out in this room cause at least there's some other animals here
 
Growl
 
privacy is good when you need to call a hooker.
what? too soon?
 
@JimNorton I made a version of C++03 rvalue references, but I have a glitch still somewhere, there's an extra copy: ideone.com/Csitz
 
@keith.layne dafuq?
 
12:05 AM
exactly
 
lol
on a door in London:
 
@TonyTheLion haha
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah who would've thunk
 
I'm gonna stick that on the front door of my new flat
that's gotta be lulz
 
I think I got overzealous when removing manufacturer softwarez from this lappy, now the silly fn button & mouse pad don't work.
 
12:10 AM
kek
 
@TonyTheLion I think I'd reverse it -- "This is a brothel -- only prostitutes and guys with money to give away are allowed to enter."
 
@keith.layne asus?
 
effing toshiba
 
hm well i had that problem with an asus
@JerryCoffin "This is a sistel -- only prostitutes and gals with money to give away are allowed to enter".
 
12:13 AM
did you solve it?
 
Woot, UTF-8 validation passes all tests! And as a side-effect I can now do UTF-8 encoding/decoding in my head. :S
 
yes, i let it have its will -- i just let it update
 
oh wow
 
@TonyTheLion that sign would pretty much guarantee a sausage fest at your flat every day.
 
Ok, I'm going to sleep now.
 
12:14 AM
lol
 
Good night.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes u know that it's, like, stateful?
 
night
 
hmm, my C++03 rvalue code prefers the copy constructor to the move constructor for rvalues, but not for rvalue-references.
 
and so incompatible with C++ he he
 
12:16 AM
also either I have a bug or C++03 on IDEOne is sharing string buffers.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Hmm, I called it stateless.
Because my encoding/decoding functions don't need extra parameters for state.
Oh shit, clang doesn't like it.
 
zing
 
dang, clang, bang bang
 
ogonek sounds like Shrek's cousin
 
what's that song from kill bill again?
 
12:18 AM
What does Shrek's cousing sound like
 
unicode
 
or maybe whoever it was at apple was heavily into kerning when he named the compiler clang
 
Mwhahahahaha. All green again. I'm awesome. And sleepy.
 
why does an installer written for vista/7 need me to "run as administrator"... inspires confidence.
 
12:20 AM
Good night.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes night
 
@keith.layne is that dropbox?
 
lulz
 
no, the shitty toshiba driver installer nexus of doom
 
12:21 AM
@keith.layne You want to install drivers without being admin?
 
no, I want it to give me the gksudo prompt
@R.MartinhoFernandes you want to sleep without getting off the computer? :)
FML. I have like 37 reboots coming my way.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes G'night.
 
Mwahahha new name
 
struct A {
     operator T() const;
}
struct B: public A {};
struct T {
    T(const A& rhs); //used if RHS is A
    T(const T& rhs); //used if RHS is B
}; // I dislike how constructing T uses different constructors for A and B.
 
Now for my gravatar to update.
 
12:25 AM
@Chimera warning: I won't remember who you are :(
 
Chimaira is my favoriete metal band
 
@MooingDuck I'll remind you :-)
@TonyTheLion Cool never heard of them.
 
they are awesome :)
 
@Chimera Well, I guess I'm done with the C++03 moves: ideone.com/Csitz Just keep in mind you can't move types that don't overload constructing from asd assigning from r_ref.
did C++03 have type traits?
hmm
I might be able to make this better still
 
Wow, never knew you could change display name
Now I feel even dumber
 
12:30 AM
@keith.layne it's limited though, you can only change it once a month, unless you know the secret to changing it ~30 times a month.
 
@MooingDuck Wow cool. What does it do? :-)
 
r_val<demo> function(const r_ref<demo>& rhs) {
    demo obj(rhs);
    obj.prove();
    return move(obj);
}  //works in C++03
hmm, I just thought of a problem, named rreferences. :( So it's dangerous.
 
chi·me·ra also chi·mae·ra (k-mîr, k-)
n.
1.
a. An organism, organ, or part consisting of two or more tissues of different genetic composition, produced as a result of organ transplant, grafting, or genetic engineering.
b. A substance, such as an antibody, created from the proteins or genes of two different species.
2. An individual who has received a transplant of genetically and immunologically different tissue.
3. A fanciful mental illusion or fabrication.
I like definition 3
 
alright, I give up, I'm out
 
@MooingDuck solved, just give them unpronounceable names
 
12:34 AM
Alright g'night every body. I have an appointment with Accelerated C++. Thanks again for all the help.
@MooingDuck night / morning / afternoon
 
@JimNorton, You'd think there'd be a more explicit one for the mythical creature.
 
@chris There is...
Chi·me·ra also Chi·mae·ra (k-mîr, k-)
n.
1. Greek Mythology A fire-breathing she-monster usually represented as a composite of a lion, goat, and serpent.
2. An imaginary monster made up of grotesquely disparate parts.
 
That's more what I was looking for.
 
Alright... see you all later.
 
12:48 AM
Bye
 
night
 
@Chimera Ah a reload showed your new persona. Still kind-of an animal. Welcome, beast!
 
What's the point of extern const if they can't be used in constant expressions?
 
syntactical is one thing for sure
 
@Mysticial What do you mean?
maybe it just gets stored in read-only memory
 
1:02 AM
Say if you have an extern const int[]. And you need to pass it into a function that takes a const int*.
Then you need the const. And if you aren't defining it on the spot, then you also need extern.
 
I need the const? Doesn't non-const implicitly cast to const?
 
Oh wait... haha I messed up...
I had it the other way.
 
I just like yesterday found out extern const was even valid
 
const helps with the optimizer.
 
hm.. yeah..
makes sense
when I bumped into it I thought "crap, if I use that with alignof/alignas I can make a safe fast PImpl"
very disapointing ):
 
1:05 AM
edit = up arrow
 
@sehe fuck your mind
 
... sic, you knew
 
@sehe yeah, I'm just not used to being able to make edits like that :P
not to mention I can
 
I find something strangely fun about finding things in the standard.
 
@chris like? :)
 
1:09 AM
@Chimera It just dawns on me, you don't need rvalues for unique_ptr. Just make a unique_ptr class that is not copiable or movable. Just has default constructor, explicit construction from a pointer, and a swap. That's all it needs. (Well, and disallow copy and assign)
 
@Mysticial, I just did some of this one. Sounded like a good question type for it.
Trying to find a couple other things atm.
 
@MooingDuck never thought about it that way, interesting; however, move semantics is just plain sexy :3
 
@chris Woah 11 upvotes on the question already. When I upvoted it had only +3.
 
@Mysticial, I know, right?
I gave it the tenth to feel special.
 
And I'm surprised that your standard quotes haven't attracted any other upvotes besides mine...
wrong time of the day I guess...
 
1:20 AM
Honestly, the day I started using that, having finally found it how long ago, was a new era in my SO life.
 
A well placed standard quote can go a long way...
 
foobargl
I guess I freaking software disabled the touchpad and then uninstalled the program that does the toggling
so I couldn't turn it back on without reinstalling "value added" software
 
Standard quotes is one of those cards that I've never been able to play in the C++ tag because I'm always ninja'd by the big players. But I've been able to do it a couple times in Java.
 
error: declaration does not declare anything [-fpermissive] oooops
 
I love that one
 
1:28 AM
The equivalent of putting int;
That's a first for me lol
 
now my shit works again. awesome.
You guys don't seem nearly as excited about this development as you should be.
 
Hãllö.
 
wazzup
 
Nommuch. You?
 
latex time.
 
1:32 AM
busy reading papers...
 
@KeithLayne The rubber or the oddly-capitalized thing?
 
you ever heard of mendelay?
@minitech yes
 
@Mysticial but, java doesn't have a standard, only a language specification?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf lol, same thing to me. :)
 
@KeithLayne ++
I'm making a tower defence game in Visual Basic right now.
It's a lot of fun.
 
1:33 AM
VB6?
 
VB FTL
@Mysticial mendeley.com
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf VB.NET, even I wouldn't touch VB6 :)
 
@chris Here's a notorious example of how powerful a standard quote can be on SO. :P So keep at it.
251
Q: Why does sizeof(x++) not increment x?

Neigyl R. NovalHere is the code compiled in dev c++ windows: #include <stdio.h> int main() { int x = 5; printf("%d and ", sizeof(x++)); // note 1 printf("%d\n", x); // note 2 return 0; } I expect x to be 6 after executing note 1. However, the output is: 4 and 5 Can anyone explain wh...

 
oh i quite liked a lot about vb6 -- except as a language for serious stuff
 
@KeithLayne heard about it
 
1:35 AM
it pioneered a lot of usability things, on the gui front
 
s/for serious stuff//
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf The whole "assignment doesn't mean assignment if there's a default property" annoys the heck out of me.
Not that I ever took the time to learn VB6... it had already died before I learned to program :'(
 
i miss gwbasic
 
@Mysticial, I could've sworn I heard somewhere that sizeof had a special case where it was runtime. Is there anything to that?
 
TI Basic is technically my first language.
 
1:38 AM
you could do simple things like send a stream out on a serial port
 
@chris VLAs
 
Is there a small, free, open-source library for embedding an HTTP server into a C++ application? One that also handles WebSocket connections would be especially nice. Anyone?
 
@Mysticial, Same here, but a level down: My Casio that I got in grade 9.
@Mysticial, Oh right, VLAs can't be.
 
@chris not in C++, but in C99 you have Variable Length Arrays, an abomination and monstrosity
C++ instead has the special case for typeid, where it's not UB to dereference a nullpointer
 
The TI-83 is so much easier and better to use than that casio lol
I made pong on it cus i was bored in chemistry
 
1:40 AM
nevermind - find some questions on the subject
 
and like one screen of a random rpg-like game: it had a path, trees/whatever, an npc, and an item that you could pick up.
just a test of stuff really
 
I did TI-89.
Wrote a few games in it.
 
and then I had to return the calculator since I was just borrowing it for that year's calculus
 
My first "real" programming language is Java.
 
mine would be C++
I'm not counting turing
 
1:41 AM
I think this is the wrong room to say that Java is a "real" programming language.
 
you can do a lot with it, but it's more like better non-existant
@Mysticial, lol, there are still some major things made in it
 
at least I still have 2 days to rule the Java tag...
 
btw, is there anything else obvious i should add to that answer?
 
don't know if that's any good
 
I think the competing answer has a better grasp of it all, I just have backup on what I can find.
I really wish I could just take some courses at my level to get more versed in all of this.
The only course I have available next year is stuff I know, and Java.
 
1:46 AM
@KeithLayne, thanks!
 
I know more than the programming teacher at our school, if that says anything about what it's come to. We used to have a great ICS section.
It's gone down with the rest of the computer stuff.
 
Xeo
14
Q: Most useful shortcut in Eclipse CDT

Etienne SavardI would like to make a cheat sheet presenting the most useful (and time saving) shortcut for Eclipse CDT (C++). Can you share what are the most useful shortcuts that you use in CDT? Please, post only general shortcuts (available when doing C++) or CDT specific.

Programmers.SE material?
 
That's from 3 years ago?
 
Xeo
Yep.
Had an edit or something and popped up on the frontpage
 
i think ide-related stuff is SO, though, isn't it?
it's not a good fit any more, but actual ide problems?
 
Xeo
1:53 AM
not sure, that's why I asked here :P
 
2:04 AM
It would probably be closed as "not constructive".
 
my <kbd>keys</kbd> never seem to work in answers and I always end up removing the tags.
If there's a question like that one that comes out now, I agree NC.
Those questions, I've noticed, were more accepted years back.
 
Xeo
@chris SO was "the bitch for everything" back then, too, since there was nothing else. :P
 
@Xeo, Indeed
 
Ell
hi guys
 
Was Area51 the first SE, turned into SO, before others got added?
 
Ell
2:14 AM
so, sleeping didn't work
 
I love reading sentences where people misspell "definitely" for "defiantly". It always changes the meaning to something funny. — chris 23 secs ago
 
sbi
1 message moved to bin
1 message moved to bin
 
Ell
hi sbi :)
 
Wow, a question with almost 100 votes where the top answer is only 45.
 
Ell
how goes it?
 
2:20 AM
If 2 people feel like earning someone a +100, stackoverflow.com/questions/6805026/is-switch-faster-than-if
 
sbi
@Ell Don't hope for anything. I need to leave the house in four hours, and I'm in the (elaborate) process of ungluing myself from YT in order to go to bed.
 
Ell
haha okay well ill say goodnight to you now and let you unglue yourself :)
 
Damn. I go on my government's Web portal to change my address, fill all the appropriate forms, and when I send the damn thing, bam, looks like they're undergoing maintenance. Fuck 'em.
 
@chris Yeah, that's pretty common. I've seen more than 4-to-1 ratios before.
 
sbi
@Ell A hundred tabs down, a dozen more to go... Yawn.
 
Ell
2:25 AM
I wish I could sleep, I tried getting an early night tonight
spent 2 hours lying in bed with no distractions yet still I remained wide awake
 
sbi
My Turkish garden neighbors handed me strong Turkish tea across the fence in the evening. I had one sip and though "uh oh". Turns out I was right.
 
How was the tea?
 
sbi
@Ell Try again, this time with distraction.
@ladiesMan217 "Uh oh." Also, it's 4:30. Anything else I can answer for you by pointing at obvious facts?
Anyway, I'm outta here now. Good night, folks.
 
@sbi night
 
Ell
@sbi nighty night
 
2:43 AM
@sbi do you need to be tucked in? I know a bonobo... :)
 
Xeo
3:08 AM
-.-" Fuck you too, Youtube. Stealthy doesn't seem to work anymore. :|
 
wow thats dumb
some mother on probation and her sister got caught shoplifting and left her baby in the cart while running away
 
Xeo
> Uploads (31)
and only shows 22 vids
 
3:36 AM
posted on July 25, 2012

Imagine that you are a textbook author. Throughout your book, your programming examples have dutifully used copy constructors that explicitly copy their classes' data members. Now the language has changed, and all this code is no longer necessary. What do you do?

 
Burn it, walk away, and start a new life.
 
I just discovered (probably) the highest voted comment on SO:
10k required :(
 
blegh
I'll bookmark it
sounds like an interesting question
 
LOL
there's a meta post to undelete that, too
@Mysticial, Ok, this is seriously the 4th time now I've completely randomly ran into Raikou. No sign of entei, though, ofc.
 
3:49 AM
@chris haha you just need to trade with someone to get it in your pokedex. Then you can track it.
 
@Mysticial, Eh, just use a repel and route switching
I got latias in sapphire in like 2 mins like that
 
that works too - abeit slightly less efficiently
 
not actually trying to get them yet, don't have anything to stop it from running
that one likes showing up, though
 
The dogs are especially hard. Not only do they run. But they also roar.
So you need a pokemon with soundproof
I literally have a dedicated pair of pokemon just to deal with them.
I lead with a pokemon that knows Block and Baton Pass.
Then pass it to someone with Sound Proof.
 
Hello Guys.
 
3:55 AM
hi
 
:)
 
And I believe only Smeargle and Mew can learn both Baton Pass and Block. I got the Mew off the GTS.
 
I really need to change my screen name.
I thought nambla was cool, till I learned to use google XD
3
now I have to wait 30days.
 
@nambla Then you have to wait 30 days.
 
good choice
 
3:56 AM
wow...
 
I know right. Oh well.
I'm new here though.
 
have some fun with it; visit every day in the month
 
Do anyone know anyone doing freelance in reverse engineering?
hahaha.
 
get that badge while you wait :3
 
Are there alot of badges here?
 
3:58 AM
And for a good example of someone with a lot
Jon Skeet, Reading, United Kingdom
463k 137 2137 3489
 
...
skeet
 
couldn't resist
 
...
 
Too muccchh budgeeeeesss.
 
skeet skeet skeet skeet!
I can never resist.
 
3:59 AM
those gold ones are a real pain to get, too.
 
Do you know anywhere I can go to find someone with reverse engineering knowledge? :)
137 golds.
 

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