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2:00 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Some people really are concerned with that, you know
 
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A: Can compiler generate std::move for a last use of lvalue automatically?

R. Martinho Fernandes (...) assuming a generic case the compiler does not know anything about how is move, copy or destruct implemented for the X class? No, compilers are not allowed to do optimisations based on faith.

WTF kinda of crappy question was this.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Luckily, I don't handle any apps where an extra bit of inheritance matters.
 
@MartinJames and the first meal
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Compiler can elide copy/move ctor, so they can assume they're side-effect free, IIRC
Not totally sure for destructor, but same reasoning should apply
 
@Xeo Elide what?
 
2:01 PM
@jalf Well, good food is easer to find than good beer.
 
@TonyTheLion Well, our politics are the root of quite a bit of the fail. I mean, really, that's the terrible parts.
 
Only the parameter is constructed.
 
@SamDeHaan I can agree with that.
 
Are you saying X b; can be constructed in the parameter of the last call and used for the others?
 
@Cicada no. If someone is concerned about hypothetical vtable cost, he is plainly retarded
 
2:03 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yes and if you don't believe me, ask @kbok
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think so... ?
Don't confuse me
 
@Cicada well of course compile-time template polymorphism is better. The point is it's again
 
@BartekBanachewicz ¬_¬ how can you respond 'no' to 'some people think X'?
 
@BartekBanachewicz No it's not in some cases. Read my phrase again ;;
 
are you denying that anybody is concerned with it? Well, you are clearly wrong, as some people are
 
2:04 PM
@MartinJames The fountain of youth and the golden fleece are easier to find than good beer.
 
@thecoshman EXTREMISM
Usual Lounge stuff.
 
@Xeo Anyway, irrelevant.
The compiler may be allowed to elide the copy, but it cannot change it to a move.
 
@JerryCoffin It's a big place with 600+ population, so surely there must be competent brewers somewhere.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, true
 
@MartinJames Don't underestimate the power of murica.
 
2:06 PM
@MartinJames 600+ isn't big at all
 
I don't drink beer, so I can't speak to any mystical quality Murican beer.
 
@Cicada Still with the crusade against the US?
 
@MartinJames There may be, but the beer still sucks. Then again, it also sucks in Germany, Canada, Belgium, and everywhere else I've tried it...
 
@GamesBrainiac Most people here have a low opinion of that nation's actions.
 
@GamesBrainiac Against who else anyway? It's not like there are other countries in the world.
 
2:07 PM
@JerryCoffin maybe you just don't like beer?
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin And where doesn't beer suck?
 
@JerryCoffin Well, there's always JD etc.
 
@DeadMG I have a low opinion of all nation's actions
 
@Cicada That is true. You people all just live on boats, right?
 
@SamDeHaan We haven't invented that yet
 
2:07 PM
@MartinJames lol, I thought we where talking about quality drinks?
 
@Xeo Nowhere, to my knowledge.
 
@thecoshman That's true, but for me, I have lower of the US than of most.
 
@DeadMG I guess. But they have given us a lot of good tech. Can't forget that.
 
@GamesBrainiac Pity that they don't know how the fuck to use it to produce a good result.
 
@Cicada That remind me of a cartoon I've seen once
 
2:08 PM
The only way I've been able to drink JD is in such quantity I go from sober to wasted in one drink
 
@DeadMG Well, they did make C.
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin IOW, you just don't like beer.
 
@thecoshman Well, at least there's consistency.
 
@GamesBrainiac they've also taken a lot as well
 
I don't like the US, bot most of the middle class there are pretty nice.
@thecoshman Agreed.
 
2:09 PM
@Xeo No, it's clearly not me -- it's that beer is a bad idea. :-)
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin Brother! :)
 
@GamesBrainiac I don't like the US because it has more rep than me.
 
Xeo
Although I don't like wine either, so maybe only half-brother.
 
@JerryCoffin what is your drink of choice out of interest?
 
@GamesBrainiac Almost case in point?
 
Xeo
2:09 PM
@thecoshman Wine, IIRC
 
@Cicada yeah, but it's all bad rep
 
Beer is a very bad idea at 14:10. Come 20:00, it's complexion changes.
 
besides, digital computation was almost entirely invented by the British.
 
^ lol
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Wrong message
 
2:10 PM
@Cicada You're only 5K rep away to 20K
 
@Xeo :P
 
@Xeo Not necessarily :)
 
@GamesBrainiac Who needs rep when you can have pet moderators?
 
@thecoshman Mostly wine, though a good margarita goes down nicely with Mexican food.
 
@Cicada You have a pet moderator?
 
2:11 PM
Three.
 
@Cicada Log rafts? ...with internet?
 
@GamesBrainiac BoltCock is our pet moderator.
 
I got mah coffee. I can work now.
 
@EtiennedeMartel And what a pet moderator do exactly?
 
Xeo
@DeadMG s/moderator/smurf/
 
2:12 PM
@GamesBrainiac We feed him annoying noobs that shit flags.
 
@Xeo TM
 
@Cicada Ok, I meant the specific case of OP. Sure there are places where 2 additional CPU ticks matter, but they are extremely rare.
 
@DeadMG Oooh typo.
 
@JerryCoffin wine does not fit all the roles tough
 
@MartinJames Excellent way of putting it.
 
2:12 PM
@GamesBrainiac Eh?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Bwahaahaha
 
@thecoshman and again, I meant that most of these people prematurely optimize
 
@BartekBanachewicz And I meant "some people..." as I said. Oh well.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hahahaha, good catch.
 
@SamDeHaan We all love boat programming.
 
2:12 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I had the choice to correct it, but decided I'd leave it.
 
@GamesBrainiac You really need to learn to aim those replies. I think you wanted to ask @DeadMG.
 
@Cicada okay, I agree with you here. Notice however how low percentage of cases here it is
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yikes, sorry.
 
@thecoshman Probably not. Though I haven't in quite a while, I used to also drink vodka (with cranberry juice).
 
@JerryCoffin meh, Vodka. Rum is where it's at :P
 
2:14 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes We all up-boat programming.
 
@JerryCoffin I prefer grapefuit juice, tubocharged with a double vodka. My favourite morning pick-me-up.
 
While I have nothing against those who partake, I have found absolutely no interest in any form of alcoholic drinks.
 
Christmas came earlier this year
I just got a pile of HW without asking
it's like having a baby
 
@thecoshman Imagine that -- a pirate drinking rum. How original!
 
2:15 PM
when you get a new workstation, everyone gathers and gives you presents
 
@MartinJames I never drink anything stronger than whiskey before 1100.
 
@thecoshman You should drink grog. With MI's recipe.
 
@JerryCoffin There is time before 1100?
 
@BartekBanachewicz that is always a fun day.
 
Xeo
@thecoshman Yay, white rum
 
2:16 PM
@Xeo You mean cheap rum?
 
@SamDeHaan now I only need another screen
 
@BartekBanachewicz Now go change its diapers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz to make 2? Or to make 3?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz A buddy of mine, working at a university, got a 256GB SSD from his boss - for free, without reason - once.
 
@MartinJames Unfortunately, yes. At one time I doubted, but now that I have kids I'm forced to experience it quite routinely.
 
2:17 PM
@Xeo He stole it?
 
Xeo
Sorry, but that message was about to give me eye-cancer.
 
@Xeo well, maybe he did something exceptional.
 
hahaha
 
@Xeo Smells like ducksicking!
 
@Xeo I was about two seconds from posting 'bin the cute'
 
2:17 PM
@SamDeHaan in work it will make 2, or 3 if you count my laptop too
 
user1357851
hypothetically if I were to try & sell an app to a corporation (because it is useful to them), how much should I ask?
 
@Telkitty they won't buy it
 
Xeo
And nah, he just gave it to him and said "here, use that for your laptop or something"
 
user1182183
best room ever has no hearts, bah
 
@Xeo What happened?
 
2:18 PM
¬_¬ I drink dark rum (the proper stuff) because it's damn tasty. so shut up ye faces! @JerryCoffin @R.MartinhoFernandes @Xeo
 
@Xeo yeah yeah
 
white rum is the nasty
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes .
 
@GamErix we are a bunch of dicks
 
@thecoshman What did I do?
 
2:18 PM
@SamDeHaan Bartek's desk has scaffolding and acro props. It's the only way it can stay up under the weight.
 
user1357851
@BartekBanachewicz hypothetically
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes grog indeed. I have class you know!
 
@BartekBanachewicz fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/5c6a/index.htm (I have to admit, I was quite surprised when this search turned up results)
 
@Xeo Well, I didn't close it as NARQ, that was just my opinion. You guys can do what you want with it.
 
@Telkitty they won't buy it even hypothethically lololo
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...
 
2:19 PM
屪
 
Xeo
His boss also lent him a Galaxy Tab 2 last week, he'll "tell him when he needs it back"
 
not some sort of cheap skate who can't afford a slug of rum
 
you should take rests from Unicode
 
Xeo
Some bosses are just... woah.
 
@thecoshman You know what the worst part is? Many brands of "dark rum" are actually white rum with colouring.
 
2:20 PM
@Xeo welp, I get a lot of HW here too
(sorry pirate)
 
@EtiennedeMartel Not the ones he drinks obviously.
 
user1357851
@BartekBanachewicz if they do one day, will you dress up as a dog, crawl around and bark like one?
 
@EtiennedeMartel well, distillation would will remove the colour, it's during maturation where it can be 'coloured'. Hopefully with tasty stuff and not just dye.
 
@MartinJames makes sense
 
I would say that with templates and magic this can be solved, but I'm not smart enough to know how. — Tony The Lion 10 mins ago
 
2:21 PM
Also, this workstation is nice
2xLAN
shitload of USB 3.0
 
@BartekBanachewicz huh?
 
me gusta
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion lol "Houdini"
 
@thecoshman I meant with additives and stuff. No maturation.
 
@TonyTheLion Meh, gimme da codez.
 
2:21 PM
@thecoshman I pliked you because I misclicked
 
@EtiennedeMartel oh right right
 
So, you got to be careful not to get spicy rubbing alcohol instead of good rum.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ah no worries, chat is currently behaving... god damn I hate that hoise
 
@Xeo oh I didn't see the pun
 
anyway, with two keyboards, my desk is starting to finally look proper
 
2:22 PM
@TonyTheLion Oh no, wait, it's multiple dispatch all over again.
 
someone could come earlier and think I am an accountant or whatevs ;/
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh
 
@EtiennedeMartel sadly my choice is basically Sea Dog or dry
 
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Q: C++ type cast operator code that won't compile in visual studio 2012, but worked fine in visual studio 2005

Robert SjödahlI'm trying to update a old project that has been building with visual studio 2005 to uses visual studio 2012, and I'm getting an error that I cant solve. The code that works fine under VS2005: #include <iostream> #include <string> #include <sstream> using std::cout; using std...

bug in VS2012?
 
Xeo
2:24 PM
@TonyTheLion First thought would be "bug in 2005"...
 
I don't know what I'm talking about
 
@BartekBanachewicz Cripes! You have four arms/hands as well :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, you are going to use emacs, I see.
 
Xeo
lol
 
LOL!
 
user1182183
2:25 PM
 
user1182183
any help? that fuckign extension keeps returning
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion The question itself is done nicely, though. SSCCE with error message, clear explanation, tested against another compiler...
 
Also, wow
"Intel EXTREME BOARD Inside"
moar caps.
 
2 hours ago, by Gam Erix
double secure
I will say no more.
 
2:26 PM
@Xeo so what's wrong then with this?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Heh!
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion My guess is ambiguity with the templated conversion op
 
user1182183
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's a chrome issue cuz No virus is detected by the most destructiva anti software peice ever made
 
Did I mention they gave me two identical keyboards?
 
2:27 PM
@BartekBanachewicz porn worse-than-porn work
 
I should install Ubuntu on it <3
 
Xeo
On the keyboard?!
 
user1182183
aka combofix /killall.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes cd wors[tab]
 
@GamErix lol, that's it?
 
2:28 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, if I was there, the plugs would get swapped over first time you left the office.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lolwhat
 
@Xeo you so funny today
 
@MartinJames I would swap them each night in preparation for that.
 
@SamDeHaan hahahaha
that's the spirit
I'll grab a cup of coffee
maaan, it's half past 3 already
 
user1182183
2:29 PM
lol Skype
 
I wish it was half past 3 already. It's only half past 10.
 
user1182183
FUCK YOU SKYPE
 
user1182183
stupid extensions
 
Quick! Someone swap his display cables over!
 
user1357851
what is the mumble server IP you lot use?
 
2:32 PM
lol again
 
Xeo
Hmmm. Robot
 
@Telkitty we are hiding it
 
Xeo
Wait, nvm
 
TRAY FULL
TRAY MISSING
FILL WATER TANK
man, I hate taking orders from robots
 
user1357851
@BartekBanachewicz not sure you are even on it
 
user1357851
2:33 PM
are you blacklisted too?
 
@Telkitty I am at work right now. What would I do on mumble?
 
Xeo
Compiles fine with Clang Trunk, so I guess it's a bug with their overload resolution not picking the non-template before the template. Note that there are two viable constructors: The one taking wstring&&, and also the one taking wchar_t const*. The former would invoke the wstring conversion op, while the latter would invoke the conversion op template. — Xeo 4 secs ago
 
user1357851
no idea, I will find it out
 
> yo men
lol
 
user1125394
and girls
 
2:35 PM

C#

General discussions about the c# language, Squirrels | gist.gi...
Just saying. This thing exists.
 
this ^
 
user1125394
ah indeed
 
But the C# channel, you would actually tell someone to go there?
 
user1125394
let's move this message
 
2:35 PM
lol.
spot on.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Good, you moved 'yo men'
 
Xeo
Sometimes, it'd be nice to directly move users.
1 user moved to bin
13
 
user1125394
meh
 
aha! These keyboards have different Windows keys!
 
2:36 PM
@Xeo ahahahah
 
one is 7-ish, one is 8-ish
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not bad for identical keyboards.
 
@BartekBanachewicz WOT??
 
Out of curiosity, how would a box with negative dimensions actually look like? — Mihai Todor 3 mins ago
 
Xeo
Okay, now it's good.
 
2:37 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes they are te same model (Logitech K120)
 
I did wonder....
 
Oh - Win logos, got it.
 
@TonyTheLion It would look a lot like a black hole (seen from the inside).
 
yea, I should totally install Ubuntu on it. I might try polishing my vim skills at work
 
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Q: SIGSEGV When accessing array element using assembly

JavaBackground: I am new to assembly. When I was learning programming, I made a program that implements multiplication tables up to 1000 * 1000. The tables are formatted so that each answer is on the line factor1 << 10 | factor2 (I know, I know, it's isn't pretty). These tables are then loaded...

someone is trying to be a compiler
 
2:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz vim skills is an oxymoron.
 
Xeo
Awesome, robocopy finished 30mins ago
So 14h to copy over 1.1TB
 
Why would anyone want to oxydise morons?
 
because morons
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "burn them with fire!"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'cos ordinary lethal injection is too good for them?
 
2:40 PM
Oh wait, I have a better joke for that.
Ok, maybe it's even worse.
Yeah, let's forget about it.
 
Dammit, why do some things sounds so funny only in my head.
 
Is there a way to reinstall linux from linux itself?
 
user1357851
@R.MartinhoFernandes then they will be a better waste of oxygen
 
Shit. I held my breath for, like 10 seconds there..
 
2:41 PM
I mean, I have no pendrive.
And there's Ubuntu windows installer.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What? You've borked the install already?
 
Oh gawd, not again.
 
@MartinJames no, no.
Hey, everything under control!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yup - it's the puppy action replay.
 
uh, it looks like it will have to wait until my socket is plugged to the network anyway -.-
hm, or not... should it have net access at all?
questions, questions.
 
2:44 PM
1 message moved to C#
Again?
 
user1125394
oops
 
user1125394
@R.MartinhoFernandes you're fast thx
 
@crl he's a robot, it's his job to be faster than us humans
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not until it's time to go home. Connect it up then and you have all night for the 3623 software updates to filter down.
..and that's just for flash.
 
@Cicada teehee
@BartekBanachewicz speak. for. yourself.
 
2:52 PM
@sehe oh, I am just a little zergling.
 
> This file requires compiler and library support for the ISO C++ 2011 standard. This support is currently experimental, and must be enabled with the -std=c++11 or -std=gnu++11 compiler options.
I wasn't aware that I needed that for TR1 on Android.
 
meh, it's needed everywhere
 
Xeo
lol, somebody just sent me this with the title "Linux problem solving"
 
Not on Windows, it seems.
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel What exactly is your #include?
 
2:54 PM
@Xeo <unordered_map>
 
#include <not_tr1/unorder_map>
 
@Cicada starred. a bit late, but still
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel For GCC, must be <tr1/unordered_map>
 
Okay.
ifdef time.
Because we have to support that fucking MSVC9.
 
Xeo
2:56 PM
#if defined(BUILDPLATFORMWIN) || defined(_LIBCPP_VERSION)
	#include <memory>
	#include <unordered_map>
	#include <unordered_set>
namespace cpp11 = std;
#else
	#include <tr1/functional>
	#include <tr1/unordered_map>
	#include <tr1/unordered_set>
	#include <tr1/memory>
namespace cpp11 = std::tr1;
#endif
:)
 
boost anyone? :/
 
We're trying to drop Boost.
 
everytime I write something like this I pat my forehead and get a boost version
@EtiennedeMartel what.
 
@Xeo Ugh, why do you include everything?
Worse, why don't you include the same set of things with both configs?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes stdafx.h
 
2:57 PM
oh my
 
Well, second still applies.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes There's an #include <functional> prior to that block somewhere.
 
@Xeo #ifdef'd too?
 
Xeo
The tr1/functional is because of std::tr1::function
 
2:57 PM
yay for consistency
 
Hmm, I think no matter how you put it, it will sound silly.
 
anyway, boost.
it's there.
 
Xeo
No move semantics
 
use it.
uuuuugh.
fuck me you are right.
 
@Xeo Still see no reason to not keep that maintainable, i.e., consistent.
Re-inclusion is harmless.
 

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