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1:00 PM
Whcih is the wrong thing to be doing but it worked and I ditched the project shortly after so I don't care! =D
 
@Sean BAD MAN
 
@rudi_visser I'm pretty sure that Mark'nSweep GC does exactly that kind of thing
 
@rudi_visser BITE ME
 
@folex You're running out of memory from a strong reference to a string(?)?
How many instances of this damn thing are you creating
 
@rudi_visser Why string O_O? That's object
 
1:01 PM
That was just a guess based on Action.Target
 
afternoon all
 
Evening @TomW
 
Morning @TomW
 
@rudi_visser I can't get the way you guessed it. Anyway, it's not string, it's Monotouch object
 
Morning?
 
1:02 PM
@TomW hi
 
11am here.
 
@folex I'm high on life! Anyway ok
But surely your EventHandler isn't sticking around long anyway?
 
@rudi_visser Gah. Visiting your website locked up my machine. What the hell.
 
7 am here
 
1:03 PM
@TomW ?! What site
 
@TomW He does that to people.
 
He lures them in and causes their browser to crash.
 
@rudi_visser Second case (from pastie) works.
 
There's no JS or anything on my site!
 
1:03 PM
He's like a really rubbish troll
 
@rudi_visser so yes
 
Just kidding - I don't believe that it's really connected, but both happened to occur at the same time
;)
 
@Sean I think you'll find I had the best site ever but it turns out that domain expired...
@folex Works yes but BIG PICTURE this shouldn't matter
 
@rudi_visser Works for me
 
Not that one, I mean another site
It even played the "Trololo" song
 
1:05 PM
@rudi_visser Stop blagging my head
 
Request denied
 
@rudi_visser Well, BIG PICTURE is pretty clear: something prevents object from been GC'ed.
 
This machine stinks. It's got an i7, an SSD and 16GB of RAM and it lags to hell and back on boot.
 
Get W8 whoa
 
I think I must have a lot more crap starting up than is obvious, and I haven't yet got windows on the SSD
installed it but didn't get round to formatting
 
1:07 PM
You've got an SSD but your OS isn't on it?
That kinda defeats the purpose unless you're doing some funky shit on there
 
...yeah. I bought it separately and have never found time to reinstall
I know I need to, but haven't had time - that's it
 
But I have very specific question: why it doesn't work in first case and DOES work in second?
If that's because
object reference = SomeInstance;
reference = null;
doesn't say GC that it could free that object, then how can I remove reference on this object?
 
@folex what do you mean by 'remove reference'?
 
You "remove a reference" by not using it anywhere, = null does not do what you are expecting. You have invoked a method on it, if that's created any objects you're going down the chain like a monkey on crack
 
Hm.
object reference = SomeINstance; // now "reference" referencing SomeInstance and GC can't free SomeInstance's memory
 
1:09 PM
@TomW Fair enough :D
@folex .. until the lifetime of reference is over, ie. it's not in scope anymore, ie. in a class, when that class is destroyed
 
@rudi_visser The only place where StrongReference is used is the code you see in pastie
hmm
So if I would do
object refVar;
refVar = SomeInstance1;
refVar = SomeInstance2;
refVar = SomeInstance3;
and so on, all instances will live until refVar will run out of the scope?
would'nt
*
 
Likely
 
Hell.
And there is no way to force that?
 
GC.Collect()
 
I fucking hate the BBC now. They've gone to shitty tabloid headlines...
 
1:12 PM
But that's not guaranteed
 
It force just GC's clean cycle
 
"Light smoking 'doubles health risk'"
"But in people who are older than this - as most of the nurses in the study were - it can be the first sign of coronary heart disease, where the heart's arteries become blocked by fatty deposits.

Of the 315 sudden deaths in the study, 75 were among current smokers, 148 were among recent or past smokers and 128 occurred in people who had never smoked."
 
I reckon if I smoked I'd die in like a day
 
so basically, IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH SMOKING
 
I have the lung capacity of a foetus
 
1:13 PM
jesus f*ing christ
 
Holy crap
var testInfo = @Html.Raw(Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConvert.SerializeObject(Model.Tests));
        function SwapPopup(testId) {
            for(var i = 0; i < testInfo.length; i++) {
                if (testInfo[i].testId
            }
        }
 
and I hate "scientists" who jump on board going "this gives a strong message to people to stop smoking"
 
How did VS give me intellisense off of testInfo[i].testId?
 
smoking is bad for you, everyone knows this, linking completely unrelated statistics is not only misleading, IT'S BAD SCIENCE.
 
@Sean Spreading FUD, that's all :)
 
1:14 PM
CALLING ALL BOTS
cc/google FUD
...
goddamnit
 
Sandbox..
 
Fear Uncertainty and Doubt
 
@rudi_visser Got it nowe
 
That's cos I just told you
 
I tabbed and googled
wiki entry with the title was first result
 
1:15 PM
Either way
 
@Sean I quit smoking to reduce the gross residue on my pc and first edition/rare/signed books. I gave exactly zero fucks about the trumped up health claims.
 
@Billdr I don't smoke
I just hate shitty news articles that mislead people on health matters
 
yar
 
save it for women's magazines, keep it out of the news
 
Is there a way using Regex to get 3 letters on the right, a hyphen or not and 4 numbers on the right ?
 
1:16 PM
I did a bit of research... it's basically a 1 in 10 chance that smoking will be the cause of your death (assuming 1 pack/day)
 
@AndréSilva @"\w{3}-\d{4}"
 
Press reporting of science stories is universally terrible
2
 
and since my family has a history of heart disease, my ticker will likely go out on me before lung cancer gets me. So.... MEH.
 
K, let me test in the bot :D
 
Amen, Tom.
 
1:17 PM
@Billdr Yeah and to die of cancer you need to be genetically pre-disposed to the gene. Which shuts most doctors up when they try and tell you something is increasing your risk of cancer
@TomW Indeed.
 
Damnit it's times like this when I demand the ability to eat at my desk, this is ridiculous
 
@rudi_visser You're not allowed to eat at your desk?!
 
Do they not know I have to not do company work and instead have to finish a stupidly huge project in 3 hours time
Correct.
 
breaks out the sandwiches
Still at my desk, like a baws
Or, just like anyone else
 
Yep like everyone apart from the suckers that work here
 
1:20 PM
Do it anyway.
 
I did
 
HR slug: You can't do that
You: Sack me.
 
But I like it here
They pay me lots for doing not much at all
 
@rudi_visser, look. I have List <WeakEventHandler> (from first case from pastie).
When needed, I clear that list, but object referenced from WeakEvenHandler.strongTargetReference doesn't get GC'ed.
Is that because I have reference on that List <>, and that List <> once has references to that WeakEventHandlers? And referenced object will be killed only after I remove reference on that list?
 
This can only really be determined through testing it
 
1:22 PM
It seems like that
But I want to fix that
 
It's likely that once you've removed (by .Remove) from the list the WeakEventHandler and it's no longer doing anything in memory either then it will be GC'd (and thus the objects hanging off it too)
 
And if what I've said is true then there is no way to do that
 
But what are you doing? I mean are you generating a shitload of MonoTouch objects all the time or what?
 
easy way, ok
 
hi
 
1:23 PM
I want to go to bed. Right now.
 
Hello @techno
@Sean Do it
 
im stuck with azure
 
techno techno techno um-tssh um-tssh um-tssh
 
That's a shame
 
im trying to download a sample azure c# app
 
1:23 PM
That's a shame too
 
and run it on visual studio
i have VS Professional
 
Terrible shame
Oooooh what a shame
 
@rudi_visser You're getting to be almost as bad as Kendall
 
but when trying to open some error pops up
 
That's not very good, such a shame
 
1:24 PM
@rudi_visser Only difference is you can never tell when Kendall is joking
 
right, crappy machine, enough. You're getting formatted.
 
@Sean >_>
@TomW YAY!
 
@rudi_visser I have table. Like in Exel, for example. There is cells. When I'm scrolling up and down, those cells are recreated every time (that's ok, be sure). I have WeakEventHandler from every such cell. So, these cells doesn't get GC'ed and I'm getting out of memory
 
@TomW VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
 
@rudi_visser @Sean lolz
 
1:25 PM
And after that, I might actually treat you to some new spinning rust in RAID5
 
Well of course they're not being GC'd if you've got a handler referencing them
Why don't you just recycle/recreate the handler each time too!?
 
:)
:) :) :) :)
 
I just turned on the fireplace, and I'm eating some ginger cookies at my desk. Working from home is pretty great.
 
Excuse me @techno wtf r u doin
 
Ha, working. Schmucks.
 
1:26 PM
@techno Have you gotten to your problem yet?
 
@rudi_visser How can i recycle these handler? That's my very question
 
I agree
 
I'm between jobs. I don't have to do ANYTHING.
 
@folex Remove them from the list!
 
Quick question. On a custom exception, is it possible to fixate ( is this right ? ) the error message and title ?
 
1:26 PM
The only reason I'm working is because I have an important meeting tonight :(
 
@techno What's the error you're getting?
 
@TomW Did you miss the part where I'm eating? :p
 
@AndréSilva ?
 
@Billdr hows the bitcoin business?
 
1:27 PM
1 min guys let me check
 
@coolguyxp pretty good. Looks like we might break $14 today. I should have about $1100 to invest in it tomorrow afternoon.
 
@AndréSilva How do you mean fix?
 
@folex Removing it from the list (and not holding any other reference to the event handler and/or cell) will result in the cell being GC'd
 
oh crap i did not install that sdk
 
@rudi_visser Instead of throwing throw new CustomException("blablabla") I want to do as throw new CustomException()
 
1:28 PM
@Billdr Well, are you going to publish your site?
 
I don't why I wrote fix..
Wait..
 
@AndréSilva Then set the message in the constructor........
 
@rudi_visser The "Wait.." makes me think he realised he asked a stupid question
 
@coolguyxp I'm working on my finals right now. Once they're done I'll have two weeks (with four days off from work) to get the blackjack game up and running.
 
Yeah I just wanted to get in there before he spoke his realisation in public
 
1:28 PM
@Billdr GO GO GAMBLING ADDICTION!
 
@Sean It's not gambling if you're the house.
What I really want to do, once I figure out how to give my application it's own wallet, is to start an RPG where bitcoins are the currency.
 
I think I might come to work in a Tux tomorrow
Just for zero reason other than I'd look good
Both amazingly good and amazingly stupid at the same time
 
@Billdr Oh, I know game design!
 
@Billdr Sure it is, you rig the odds in your favour a lot but they still have a chance to win. It's just slightly safre. But you keep telling yourself that ;D
 
1:30 PM
then put the blackjack game inside it so I won't get shut down for gambling so fast :p
@Sean learn 2 math
 
@Billdr I can haz math
 
@Billdr Think about card counting!
 
I just don't have a gambling addiction..
 
@Sean If the house has a 1% better chance than the player, if the player plays perfectly, over time the house will profit.
Also, most players don't play perfectly.
@rudi_visser standard set up is 4 decks shuffled every hand
 
Oh right, sure I get it.
 
1:32 PM
@rudi_visser so... you can't count.
 
I just don't think math all the time either.
 
._. You're right @Sean, Asking stupid questions make me remember stuff I don't usually remember..
 
@coolguyxp I may rope you in when it gets down to game development time. I did a MUD ~15 years ago, but I can't say I'm very good at it.
 
@Billdr I can count
 
Just like when you call someone over to your desk to help you, and you realize in the middle of your sentence what you have to do..
 
1:33 PM
@AndréSilva That's called the wooden programmer effect.
 
@rudi_visser You can't count cards when it's 4 decks shuffled every hand. The deck never has a chance to heat up/cool off.
 
@Billdr I already counted
 
@Sean Define : Wooden Programmer Effect.
 
That kid just saw up some hot lady's skirt.
"GET IN!"
 
1:34 PM
i got it worked !!!!!!!!
 
@techno OH MY GOD CONGRATULATIONS
 
@rudi_visser fuck off
 
haha
I'm so proud of you, man
 
@AndréSilva Ok so. You ask someone over to your desk to help with a problem. They stand there. You explain the problem to them and half way through you stop talking and go "Oh..." then fix the problem. You may as well have put a wooden cut-out of Bill Gates next to your desk and talked to that. Hence, wooden programmer effect.
 
Hi @dav_i!
 
1:36 PM
@dav_i Zomg. It's been a while, hey man =]
 
@Sean Oh, you mean the ninja duck?
 
Hi @KendallFrey!
 
cc/define: ninja duck
 
@Billdr No I mean the wooden programmer
Ninja ducks would be scary
 
@Sean ._. Thanks
 
1:37 PM
I love it when Gangnam Style comes on random playlist
 
@Billdr I don't think CCs bot is alive
 
Bots are officially stupid.
 
@AndréSilva You're very welcome
 
@Billdr I got suspended for saying something to that effect
BE CAREFUL MY FRIEND
 
Who'd flag me? I'm adorable.
 
1:38 PM
flags
 
@Sean Anatidaeninjaphobia ?
 
@Billdr Sounds good :D
 
@Sean visualising CC throwing his head back toward the sky and booming "It's ALIIIIIIIIVE!"
 
@Billdr Nope, bot is dead, maybe again
 
Hmm. Would a new MUD still carry weight in a world where MMOs exist?
 
1:41 PM
Here, I will turn it on
 
Naw, it's ok.
 
@AndréSilva Did you just make that word up?
 
cc/define MUD
@coolguyxp MUD: A computer program, usually running over the Internet, that allows multiple users to participate in virtual-reality role-playing games. (source)
Ah
 
think text-based mmo
 
ugh, steam backup y u no faster
 
1:42 PM
@TomW No. Even better.... JOHNNY FIVE IS ALIIIIIIIVE!!
 
connected to via telnet
 
@Billdr Not many games are textbased anymore
Nor use telnet
 
Jon Skeet called himself stupid. The date is 12/12/12. World end.
 
@Billdr I enjoyed MUDs when I was younger. Ironically, I have lost the attention for it
@KendallFrey It's my birthday. The world does not end on my birthday. I simply will not allow it.
 
@KendallFrey well, around here the world seems to be ending itself via the medium of COLD. How about you?
 
1:43 PM
@KendallFrey World end is 21/12 not 12/12
 
@Sean Thank you for using the word "ironically" correctly.
 
19 mins ago, by Sean
@rudi_visser Only difference is you can never tell when Kendall is joking
 
@rudi_visser Same shit, different pile.
 
@Sean The ninja part yes.. the rest is all true
 
!!!!
 
1:43 PM
@Billdr You're very welcome.
 
@TomW Medium. 0C this morning.
 
Bitcoin tip bot for SO Chat!
 
cc/define ninja
@coolguyxp ninja: a person trained in ancient Japanese martial arts and employed especially for espionage and assassinations. (source)
 
1:44 PM
cc/define bitcoin
@coolguyxp bitcoin: Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency created by the pseudonymous entity Satoshi Nakamoto. (source)
 
Is that bot software you guys are running floss?
 
cc/define espionage
 
@TomW espionage: The act or practice of spying or of using spies to obtain secret information, as about another government or a business competitor. (source)
@Billdr Custom run Javascript engine I think
 
cc/define breasts
 
Could not find definition for breasts. Trying Urban Dictionary
@rudi_visser [breasts](http://breasts.urbanup.com/511343) [Tits], [titties], [tig ol' bitties], [boobs], [jugs], [melons], [cans], [hooters], [dirty pillows], [gazongas], [yabbos], [tig bitties], [knockers], [mammaries], [fun bags], [honkers], [headlights], [baps], [meat puppets], [ta-tas], [naturals], [boobies], [guns], [bahama mammas], [balloons], [bawagos], [big brown eyes], [blinkers], [bobambas], [bodacious tatas], [bombs], [bosom], [bosooms], [boulders], [Bristols], [brown suckies], [bubatoes], [bups], [bust], [busts], [Ca
cc/undo
 
1:45 PM
Best thing ever
 
ha
 
@Billdr It's Zirak's bot, search it on the googul and find the license from his github thingy
 
@coolguyxp You do not have permission to use the command undo
 
"[penis squeezers]" hahahaha
 
cc/google zirak's bot
 
1:46 PM
@Sean @Billdr Yea, his bot that I modified
 
"[love monkeys], [luscious scoops of flesh]" OH MY
 
@rudi_visser, Hm. I've just realized that I don't need strong references in there. I'm so happy ._.
 
cc/tell Billdr help
 
@rudi_visser [golden winnebagoes] wtf?
 
1:46 PM
@Billdr Mine is, under the conditions of MIT.
 
@coolguyxp Could not process input. Error: invalidcommands is not defined on line 1892
Ugh
 
@Sean [Cadillac bumper bullets] :D
 
LOVE WARTS?!?! o_O
 
@KendallFrey Does that mean I can modify it willy nilly?
 
Best things ever
 
1:47 PM
wtf happening here
 
Yes, under the conditions of MIT.
 
I don't know what those are.
 
@folex Congratulations
 
anyway, got a repo I can look at?
 
Sigh, no tell command on kenedalls bot
 
1:47 PM
You need to give me the credit.
 
cc/google MIT software license
 
$help
 
And there's the repo ^
 
1:47 PM
@Billdr ^
 
Thank you
 
I am amazing
Don't mention it
 
not mentioning it
 
This'll be a project for a few weeks from now, but the idea is you'd be able to "tip" people for being helpful in chat. So say I'd give Kendall .1 bitcoin for the link (which is like a dollar fifty atm), which would be transferred to an online wallet that Kendall has access to from an online wallet I have access to.
 
Just use PayPal.
 
1:50 PM
He can then take that bitcoin and turn it into looneys or tooneys
 
Once I turn 18...
 
Transaction fees ftl.
Or he could buy computer equipment with it off bitmit (assuming he has enough)
 
I suppose I need some sort of electronic payment method to get these coins?
 
no
 
Then how?
Do they come out of my printer?
 
1:51 PM
Surely I could just pump £1000 into BitCoin and then bet on the exchange rate going up
 
You use your wallet to transfer for other people..
 
The bot would generate an online wallet for you.
 
@KendallFrey It's fake money
 
Sweet.
 
@rudi_visser It's internet currency.
It buys real things.
 
1:52 PM
lol
 
And how would I cash in? Those toonies...
 
I don't know why that makes it fake.
 
Thumbnail butt plug

Buy now 0.895 BTC (7.77 GBP)
3 hours 36 minutes
 
@KendallFrey There's exchanges. MtGox is the biggest one. You'd sell it for meat-space currency which can be transfered to your bank
 
BitMit is fun
 
1:53 PM
I'M RICH!!!
not...
 
Meh, it's $1.50 you didn't have before, for doing what you'd do anyway.
 
Yeah, bitcoin I have never fully understood
 
@TomW You understand paper money?
 
@Billdr Because until I can accept transactions to my bank in BTC it's not real monies
 
@Billdr How much do I get?
 
1:54 PM
OK, poor choice of words
I understand how a currency based on something other than legislative fiat can exist
 
@rudi_visser Cool story bro.
 
@rudi_visser 'Real money' and 'legal tender' seem to be getting confused.
 
^
 
I'm just not sure where the actual utility comes in. I don't know of anyone that accepts them - so it seems that everyone who has them, has them just because there are markets trading in them
 
BTC is the new che(ck|que).
 
1:55 PM
wtf ? I create a crystal report file ( rpt ) and I get a mht ..
 
I'm using real money as something to legal tender yes
 
@KendallFrey Most people don't understand what the term legal tender actually means
even if they think they do
 
I probably don't.
 
bye people, I know you will miss me
Try to hack my bot while I am gone
 
1:56 PM
@coolguyxp later man
 
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Sweeeeeeet
 
But I know that $10 I have is legal tender.
 
People use it to mean money in a form or denomination that a seller MUST accept if they've offered something for sale
 
I know the 10btc I have is not legal tender, but it is currency.
 
1:57 PM
but in some jurisdictions that doesn't actually exist, the UK for one
 
@rudi_visser hey guys
 
Hello again @dav_i!
 
Sorry for the lack of contact - new job!
 
there is no rule at all on the form of payment that should be accepted as part of a transaction, it's for the parties to decide. Legal tender, at least in the UK, means the acceptable form of paying a settlement to a court
 
@TomW Which is generally accepted to be GBP or in some cases, Euros
Technically you can pay people in euros as it's valid currency that they can then go and exchange. You have offered to pay, that's all that matters
 
1:59 PM
Indeed - my point was that the term is widely misused
 
@dav_i Yay do you like it? Is it MVC or just shitty WebForms?
 

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