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5:00 PM
@thecoshman It was more like "restart the damn thing to the rescue".
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Firefox is has gone apeshit"
 
we still haven't moved on from rogcg's compiler errors and the string concatentation?
 
This is boring. I'm bored now.
 
@BobFincheimer anyways.. thanks a lot for your help.. I guess I will dig this code a little more to see what my be causing this..
 
5:00 PM
any way, can't sit too idle, I have CV's to be sending :D
 
@thecoshman Oh you were fixing grammar? I'm going to blame it on Firefox being apeshit.
 
Ell
Ima start again.
 
@thecoshman You bailing out of your current job?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not so much bailling
 
@rogcg what error?
 
5:01 PM
@thecoshman got fired?
 
@BobFincheimer the undefined error..
 
@thecoshman Oh. The nasties, then.
 
@TonyTheLion Spent too much time in the lounge
 
however when I try to build LexicalAnalyzer, I get this warning:
#error This file requires compiler and library support for the upcoming \
ISO C++ standard, C++0x. This support is currently experimental, and must be \
enabled with the -std=c++0x or -std=gnu++0x compiler options.
 
@rogcg what line?
 
5:02 PM
CodeBlocks sucks.. gimme a good ide for windows
 
@rogcg so did you enable C++11 mode?
 
@rogcg So, uh.. add that flag?
 
@Collin lol
 
Ell
@rogcg put -std=c++0x on the end of the command?
@rogcg text editor & a compile script! cmake? something
 
I'll just note that googling that error is pretty straightforward and produces nice results.
 
5:02 PM
i'm not compiling on terminal. I just click build on CodeBlocks
 
@rogcg @Ell @LuchianGrigore is std::regex C++11?
 
ahhhhhh
 
maybe I have to change some config file
 
use VS2010
 
that alternative theme on the forums is just oh so terrible
 
5:03 PM
@BobFincheimer Yes, it is.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ^
 
i wish sublime text could build my cpp projects
 
Also, don't bother using the std::regex that comes with GCC. It doesn't work.
 
@sehe I like this one more:
http://pubby8.wordpress.com/2012/10/15/stack-based-template-metaprogramming-in-c-11/ oh god. oh gaawwwdd. kill it! Kill it with fire before it's too late!!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what should I use then?
 
5:03 PM
@rogcg it probably can, it's that awesome
 
@rogcg boost
 
huh... my cat is singing along to the song :P
 
It is unimplemented and I wish they didn't even ship the damn thing at all instead of shipping it halfway implemented.
 
@Praetorian no way
 
@rogcg It does
 
5:04 PM
I think she likes getting one up on the Germans :S
 
@rogcg The regex library from boost is implemented, unlike the one that comes with GCC.
 
sublime text says
LOL
 
@rogcg If you want to use regex with gcc, I don't see any other options
 
This file requires compiler and library support for the upcoming ISO C++ standard, C++0x
really a 100 mb lib in my project?
 
> upcoming ISO C++ standard
it already exists
the C++11 standard is a fact
 
5:05 PM
@rogcg You can get only the regex bits.
 
@rogcg You think linking to boost::regex will increase your exe size by 100 MB?
 
@TonyTheLion YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
 
@rogcg Damn, that's old.
 
39
A: C++ templates Turing-complete?

Johannes Schaub - litbI've done a turing machine in c++1x. Features that c++0x adds are not significant for the turing machine indeed. It just provides for arbitrary length rule lists using variadic templates, instead of using pervert macro metaprogramming :). The names for the conditions are used to output a diagram ...

whoa
 
@BobFincheimer lol
 
5:06 PM
I must add -std=c++0x or -std=gnu++0x compiler options. Where do I change the compiler options?
 
@rogcg what compiler/version are you using?
 
GCC 3? (lol)
 
WTF
Stack Overflow that's why it's there
 
@LuchianGrigore holy fuck
 
5:07 PM
@BobFincheimer Probably 4.5 or 4.6.
<regex> is not implemented on 4.7, so don't even bother.
 
I’m going to learn C#.
 
@BobFincheimer IDK
 
@rogcg You can use this tool to extract only the regex part: boost.org/doc/libs/1_51_0/tools/bcp/doc/html/index.html
 
@Pubby it is intriguing. what does it do? yeah, i'm baffled!
 
@daknøk lol
 
5:08 PM
@thecoshman ?
 
@daknøk oh, your serious, poor you
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll see that later.. thanks.
 
@thecoshman poor?
C# isn’t that bad.
 
@BobFincheimer GCC 4.6.1
 
@daknøk C# is great. It makes money appear in my pocket.
 
5:09 PM
@daknøk What are you going to do it C# ?
 
@kbok maybe a bug tracker or something.
 
fuck sake, why is writing speculative applications so hard? "Here's me, what you got on offer?"
 
@Pubby starred
 
@EtiennedeMartel true true, C# is literally a money generator
 
I have Mono so I don’t need Windows, fortunately.
 
5:10 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes He'll still have to build regex separately, won't he? Since its not header only /cc @rogcg
 
@daknøk Beware, I'm afraid Mono is seriousfuckingly outdated
 
@daknøk Oh, so don't have the GLORY that is WPF or WCF?
 
WTF
 
@rogcg @Praetorian @R.MartinhoFernandes You have moved away from my expertise to the std libs... i don't think I can be of any more help...
 
If I want a GUI I’ll use Cocoa or Cocoa Touch.
 
5:11 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Really? I program C# for a living but that never happened to me
@daknøk Windows Template Fibrary
 
Windows Template Foundation
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Q: Memory requirement of C code

johnIs there any way to know memory requirement of my C/c++ code? For example I made C code of int arrey[1000]. so how much memory will it consume in RAM when running,can I know it with any code/tool without counting it manually?(system:Ubuntu)

> int arrey[1000]
 
@Praetorian I think so.
 
-1
Q: computing a method,but return with funny values

Heng Aik HweeAs stated above,my program is trying to compute a value after user has input his data in. My computing function will decide on what kind of type the user has typed in and using if loops to compute.But strangely, after computing, the value i caculated is very much different, and no matter what kin...

 
@kbok It is?
I thought that they had same day C# 5.0 support.
@LuchianGrigore reads title, thinks UB is the answer
@LuchianGrigore looks at code, closes eyes in pain
 
> Support for the 3.0 and 3.5 and 4.0 API is not complete.
 
5:15 PM
If it's not answer, then why is this here, and what stops me flagging this as "not an answer"? — Etienne de Martel 7 secs ago
 
hmmm... how to word, "If we can do this fast, I am coming over soon for a holiday, so I could do an interview" with out sounding cocky or pushing them towards "sure, quick answer, no"
 
@kbok The problem is that when people think "C#", they think ".NET", and all the shiny libs that come with it. Sure, Mono fully supports the language, but only part of the framework (the BCL), which means you can pretty much only do console apps with Mono.
 
@thecoshman "Bitches, I be needin' work fast. Answer plix"
@EtiennedeMartel Erm, what?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Or interop with native libs and produce your own UI lib based on that.
 
Oh, and GUI stuff with whatever they have, like Cocoa# or GTK#.
 
5:17 PM
They don't have WPF, and the WinForms support looks ugly as fuck. But GTK# is fine.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes paw-fect
 
Maybe I'm biaised because once you start using WPF, you don't want to use anything else for GUI.
 
This is C++, not PHP or Perl -- you can't use strings as the keys in switch statements (and that's not even valid C string or switch syntax). — Barmar 1 min ago
 
pff
 
haaa busted!!!!
Back to PHP!!!!
 
5:18 PM
I used WPF for ten minutes and it pissed me off immensely
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sure. I, for one, think about .NET when I hear "C#", esp. WP7 and Metro
 
@DeadMG I am not surprised.
 
@DeadMG I quite like it
 
@DeadCicada Barmar?
 
5:19 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I totally agree - using anything else (or maybe Qt) is a pure waste of time to me.
 
"Whilst I do not want to be to forward, I am in fact coming to home to visit family soon, so would be available for an interview if it suits"
huh?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Arlington, MA; he's like 15 minutes from me
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Probably went like "OMG THIS IS NOT STRONGLY TYPED RAGE".
 
www.wpf.net haha
 
user image
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this ^ oh gawd
 
5:20 PM
hmmm
 
@DeadMG fairly sure I gave it the same
 
LOL
 
@thecoshman I find "I don't want to be X, but I will be X" silly.
 
Oh dear. Not another LOLer.
 
@TonyTheLion oh you
 
5:21 PM
something's gotta entertain me
 
calculation with performance optimization off: 10 seconds
calculation with performance optimization on: 3 minutes
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh... see what you mean, suggestions?
 
:(
 
how do I enable -std=c++0x or -std=gnu++0x in windows?? where is the compiler options?
 
@EtiennedeMartel what's wrong with LOL? D:
 
5:21 PM
Who here has experience doing CUDA development? Is it hard and does it allow generalized computations on the GPU cores?
 
@rogcg What? Windows isn't a compiler.
 
@rogcg Are you using Code::Blocks?
 
@DeadMG GCC on windows dude;;
 
@EtiennedeMartel While I'd agree that WPF is about as good any any other GUI library I've used, there are still others I'd consider roughly on a par with it. Depending on exactly what I was doing, I might consider any of a half dozen (or so) my first choice.
 
@Tuntuni sublime text
 
5:22 PM
is invoked through the command line, where you pass compiler options like any other program
 
@rogcg MinGW actually. :) A windows port of GCC. ;)
 
so you wouldn't have that problem if you were just using GCC on Windows
 
@Tuntuni It stands for "laugh out loud". If you're not currently laughing really loud, then don't use it. Also, it makes you sound like a retarded teenager.
@JerryCoffin For example?
 
@EtiennedeMartel or an over sexed lion
 
@EtiennedeMartel Since when does anyone use lol to indicate they're actually laughing? It's more like giggling.
 
5:23 PM
I just need to know the command
 
@Tuntuni Hey, not my fault if everyone uses it wrong.
 
troll ALL the noobs!
 
@JerryCoffin Do tell, do tell!
 
@JerryCoffin I'm interested, too.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There are other views on that.
 
5:24 PM
@rogcg How are you building it from within Sublime Text? Using a make file?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Lick Our Lamb.
 
@EtiennedeMartel :3
 
@Praetorian not using make file. just ask to build and sublime does it
 
@Tuntuni How old are you, by the way?
 
@EtiennedeMartel IIRC 13
 
5:25 PM
@thecoshman I read "boobs" the first time
 
@EtiennedeMartel It can be argued that "lol" actually means "I acknowledge that there's something funny in what you said".
 
@EtiennedeMartel Oh noes, age questionz. :( I am a teenager but i'm not retarded.
 
@TonyTheLion not surprised
 
5:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wait, you use "LOL" often, right?
 
@Tuntuni your rush to deny shows a guilty conscience
 
@EtiennedeMartel Trying to build an ad hominem argument?
 
I use in any situation where I have no idea what to say. funny has nothing to do with it anymore
 
god I hope I spelt that right
@TonyTheLion lol
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'll start with the most controversial, that most will laugh at -- but MFC is clearly superior for some tasks. OWL probably isn't quite as controversial, but still viewed as ancient and obsolete by many -- still works well for some situations though. For still others, I'd prefer FLTK. For programs with heavy 3D display and minimal GUI capabilities, GLFW would be what I'd generally look at first.
 
5:27 PM
> MFC is clearly superior for some tasks.
my eyes ^
 
@JerryCoffin I could cut the laughs with a knife. And probably my fingers in the process, but that's secondary.
 
huh, cat's don't really like energetic leg kicking
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. As Alf has clearly proved earlier, I love doing that.
 
@JerryCoffin I think the fact that you know how to use MFC weights a lot in the balance.
 
@thecoshman When did I say I was 13?
 
5:28 PM
@JerryCoffin I can't stand MFC's use of hungarian notation.
 
@Tuntuni busted
 
MFC is bad
 
@Tuntuni apparently I not recall correctly, or you feel the need to hide form it
 
@thecoshman I'll go with the first one. ;) @kbok Erm, wut?
 
@EtiennedeMartel There are certainly things about MFC that I dislike (in some cases intensely). That doesn't stop it from working better than anything else available for certain tasks.
 
5:29 PM
I would use the chat search feature, but I am having a rather rage free night
 
@JerryCoffin uh oh
 
@JerryCoffin What are those tasks?
 
@JerryCoffin like inducing rage?
 
@thecoshman What does my age (or searching text) have to do with rage?
 
MFC: The rage inducing framework.
 
5:30 PM
@Tuntuni Notice the "@JerryCoffin" in that message. That means it's not addressed to you.
 
@TonyTheLion MFC looks good if the alternative is writing hundreds of lines of Win32...
 
I'd still use WPF given the choice.
 
@Tuntuni sigh... you haven't tried using the search feature on this chat have you?
 
@TonyTheLion but there are other alternatives which are much better
 
I think I'll ignore Jerry's recommandations.
 
5:30 PM
@BobFincheimer true
 
@thecoshman Nope. :)
 
@BobFincheimer Oh, sure, getting punch in the face is not as painful as taking a javelin in the groin.
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@EtiennedeMartel notice the one further up, that's a general comment, that means it's addressed to the general audience
 
@EtiennedeMartel Huh? When did I reply to something that was addressed to Jerry?
 
5:31 PM
@EtiennedeMartel my point exactly...
 
@EtiennedeMartel debatable
 
@EtiennedeMartel One example would be ribbon bars. When you need ribbon bars, it's the only one that currently really supports them (there's been a purely demo-level attempt with .NET, but nothing more than that).
 
¬_¬ is that right?
 
@thecoshman Damn.
@JerryCoffin I hate ribbons.
 
5:32 PM
@Tuntuni for the love of god would you learn to respond to specific messages!
 
@JerryCoffin Hmm, I see
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't like them either -- but I've had at least a couple of customers absolutely demand them.
 
@thecoshman That would require moving the mouse.
 
I'll just remember to stay away from ribbon bars in the future then. :)
 
5:32 PM
@Tuntuni sigh... sit right one sec
 
can I change the description of the room?
 
@rogcg You have to be a room owner for that. So, no.
 
@Tuntuni (and any other suckers who have not yet got it) keyboard foo
 
@EtiennedeMartel I meant it. The rate at which I use "lol" is irrelevant. FWIW, I use it every time I'd make any laugh-ish sound in a face to face conversation. I don't necessarily laugh in front of the screen, though.
 
@thecoshman add me as owner so I can change
 
5:33 PM
@rogcg huh?
 
@thecoshman i wanna change de room descr!!!!!!!!
 
@rogcg see my name?
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: If you ask, we'll make you a room owner so you can change the topic. [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
multiple exclamation signs ... sure sign of ...
 
@EtiennedeMartel "... a WPF implementation of ribbon that includes all of the basic ribbon features" [emphasis added]. In other words, it's not ribbons, nor even a complete emulation of them. As I said before, demo-level only.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Oh god, eight!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
 
urge to plonk rising
 
@thecoshman what is plonk? why do I not know this?
 
plonk = ignore user
 
5:35 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Please don't
 
aha! New avatar again! Muahaaa
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes see I changed the room name indirectly. but I did. hahahahahh
 
@rogcg Stop it.
 
@TonyTheLion thanks
 
@Chimera for fuck sake
 
5:35 PM
@BobFincheimer "Plonk!" is the sound you make when you hit the bottom of a user's killfile.
 
@BobFincheimer Plonk is the sound the user makes when he falls to the bottom of someone's blacklist
 
@EtiennedeMartel what dude.. relaxxx..
 
anyway, microsoft's Windows Ribbon Framework is only for Windows 7 and later
 
@Chimera That doesn't look quite as angular as the 2014 emblem
 
so for earlier I think maybe MFC would be easier
if one really really wants ribbon
 
5:36 PM
@rogcg if you are going to tempt us with triple x content, you better follow through with it!
 
@Chimera Why are you always changing that?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf and sucks
 
@rogcg NEVAR
 
maybe one should create the Spare Ribbons Framework
 
@thecoshman what are u talking about??
 
5:37 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf There's someone still using XP?
 
@rogcg relax
 
@rogcg > relaxxx - a suspected bed wetter
 
@EtiennedeMartel yes, there was a lot of discussion about an early decision to abandon XP with VS 2012. it ended with XP being especially supported.
 
markdown you have failed me for the last time!!!
 
@kbok cool logo
 
5:38 PM
as i recall the market share is about 30% for XP
 
@thecoshman so?
 
@thecoshman I'm going to bookmark this message for latter face-rubbing. Also, multiple exclamation marks.
 
@thecoshman it fails me all the time..
 
@EtiennedeMartel Last time I checked, it was something like 30-35% XP, 15-20% Vista, 30% 7, and the rest various older stuff.
 
relaxxx - NSFW
 
5:39 PM
lol
 
@JerryCoffin Well, damn. I can't wait for XP to be ditched.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes time is relative
 
not funny when you open the link in company and is full of people around you. AGGHHH
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes faster porn
 
5:39 PM
@kbok It's like all the buzzwords in one shot. All it needs is a large "Fork me on Github!" ribbon in the corner.
 
Ell
hmm. Now I'm missing np++ in comparison to gedit
 
@rogcg You were warned.
 
@rogcg ¬_¬ I did say NSFW, what more do you want
 
idiots exist
 
@thecoshman IDK the meaning of this
 
5:40 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I'd like that too -- but living in the real world means I can't just develop for what I'd like instead of what customers use.
 
@rogcg Not safe for work.
 
like I said, if you are going to tempy us with triple X, you best follow through
 
@rogcg Not Safe For Work.
 
@rogcg what planet do you live on?
 
What. You can't post LMGTFY links in comments? How shitty!
 
5:40 PM
@TonyTheLion a planet you will never know.
 
@rogcg seems like
 
@rogcg suspected age now single digits
 
@Cicada Beware: workarounding it with URL shorteners is suspension-y.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Really?
 
I hereby coin the term "RAIIght" - as in "using smart pointers instead is the RAIIght thing to do" :D
7
 
5:41 PM
I butchered too much English in that sentence.
 
FUCK YOU MARKDOWN!
 
@Cicada Yes.
 
I'm too stressed and I had coffee
 
4 mins ago, by thecoshman
markdown you have failed me for the last time!!!
Man, that was fast. :P
 
5:42 PM
@LuchianGrigore Nice, you coin the term and typo it right after. +1 internet for you
 
@Cicada I have no idea what you're talking about :P
 
I should totally have waited 2 mins.
 
@TonyTheLion Probably Earth.
 
haha!!!! too late!
 
still, my point was, three 'paragraphs' all starting with "I ..." is a fairly sure sign I need to rework that shit
 
5:43 PM
@LuchianGrigore too late*
 
@EtiennedeMartel oh that place.
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah, with lions and bacon.
 
@Cicada quit correcting non-mistakes....
 
@Cicada Trop de lait.
 
@LuchianGrigore Three dots only
 
5:43 PM
how come nobody commented on my pumpkin? I assumed I'd get at least one comment! Not even @Ell commented!
 
@thecoshman The moral of the story is: "Markdown can always let you down once more", aka "You can't trust the system".
 
@LuchianGrigore oh noes. multiple again!!!!
 
(Alright, everyone, we should all ignore @MooingDuck)
 
5:44 PM
Reddit is down. :(
 
@Cicada When I first encountered it, I was told we should try to help people instead of being sarcastic. I could only reply with:
 
@MooingDuck it's a thing alright!
 
@thecoshman Fuck!
 
@TonyTheLion simple solution - NSFW
 
@MooingDuck Is that a pikachu?
 
5:45 PM
@MooingDuck i think it is from wallace and gromit movie?
 
Ell
@MooingDuck woaah that's awesome! I somehow didn't see that message o.O
 
@Tuntuni it is
 
@thecoshman I don't do r/gonewild
 
@TonyTheLion No, it's not.
 
@MooingDuck Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yea.
 
5:45 PM
@JerryCoffin haha, nice! :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes says it's down here
 
reddit seems to die in a very strange way
 
@MooingDuck FWIW, isup.me is the same thing, but shorter.
 
Is down for me too
 
5:46 PM
lol
> Richard Stallman's beard is made of parentheses.
 
You guys suck.
 
@MooingDuck When you click the link, it says "Reddit is down".
 
> It's just you. reddit.com is up.
 
@EtiennedeMartel no it doesn't.
 
Richard Stallman is a virus
 
5:47 PM
> Richard Stallman never showers: he runs 'make clean'.
 
Did you know that he never uses hotels?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Technically, they're right: it is serving a page. It's just that all it's serving right now is a page that says Reddit is down.
 
fuck it! CV is on it's way!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, but it doesn’t surprise me.
 
5:48 PM
 
He came for a talk in my university and there was a big fuss because no one teacher wanted to be his host.
 
@TonyTheLion oh! Oops. I can't get at reddit from here, so I trusted the link
 
@MooingDuck You did what?
 
Stop making shit up.
Reddit was working five minutes ago.
 
5:49 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You mean “big fuzz”.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I trusted the site that says "reddit.com is up."
 
like I said, when reddit dies, it dies in a strange way
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Even when it's "up", I don't think "working" is a word I'd associate with Reddit.
 
@MooingDuck Unacceptable.
 
Reddit’s down page is the only page on Reddit that doesn’t look terrible.
 
5:50 PM
you don't go to reddit for reddit
 
@daknøk yes, that's true
their interface is pretty bad looking
but links
you can click them and be entertained
 
It’s Web 1.5.
But it works.
 
that's good enough for me
 
I’d rather have a terrible-looking Reddit than some beautiful but crappy completely AJAX-powered application.
 
Really, WTF were you expecting? It's a place where people drop links and write comments.
 
5:51 PM
@Chimera I just say what your damn Gravatar is ¬_¬
 
That means 90% of 90% of pages is going to be comment threads. There's little space for good looking there.
 
Maybe I shall venture on TvTropes
 
RES makes reddit pretty good
 
because I have no life
 
@Collin RES makes it usable, yeah.
 
5:52 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Because I like to.
 
@Chimera But it's confusing :(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ok, I won't change it again for a long time......
 
This one looks like a whale tail.
 
Yeah, I can see that in the small version. :-)
 
@TonyTheLion That's a very bad idea.
 
5:56 PM
@thecoshman it doesn't matter if the way is strange, as long as it dies
imho
 
indeed
 

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