« first day (3270 days earlier)      last day (324 days later) » 

12:22 AM
 
12:39 AM
Done. Ugh. Upvoting answers is exhausting.
 
@mickmackusa based on your summary you lack of stamina.
 
1:45 AM
@Thingamabobs What part of my summary indicates a lack of stamina?
 
2:04 AM
@mickmackusa you voted 10 times today and you don't seem to upvote on answers very often. But if you insist on been fit on that matter, I would leave it like that. ;P
 
2:42 AM
@Thingamabobs For someone doing quite a bit of moderation, it's fairly common to have a higher percentage of their votes be downvotes, just because when concentrating on moderation, you're seeing a lot of poor content. People use their votes in a large number of different ways. There's a spectrum of opinions as to what's a "good" ratio of upvotes to downvotes. In reality, there's no "right" answer to what that ratio should be.
 
 
1 hour later…
3:50 AM
Where is the Caesar Cipher canonical for PHP? I want to post an answer, but I'm not sure where to park it. I have found: stackoverflow.com/q/21177443/2943403 and stackoverflow.com/q/28270371/2943403 and stackoverflow.com/q/38195647/2943403 and this earliest one is closed, but maybe it shouldn't be: stackoverflow.com/q/18269747/2943403
 
@Adriaan maybe this request should be binned? The Q has been closed and reopened, but the cv-pls is still pending.
 
5:46 AM
Blatant spam cigien.
 
@SunderamDubey Assuming you're referring to this request, yes, it's blatant spam.
 
4b0
@4b0 now OP start to abuse comment system.
 
is it Mod flagged?
 
6:30 AM
@bad_coder Yes, that may be binned. Thanks
Can a RO please bin this request?
 
4b0
Is this related to programming ?
 
7:10 AM
@4b0 only vaguely, but I'd be hesitant to vote to close; understanding how numbers are represented in computers is only relevant if you need to implement something related
 
4b0
@tripleee Ok thanks. SO why I also hesitate for CV.
 
@Adriaan they are a constant nuisance, I guess you don't see much of it here because it is handled very expediently
not like several per day, but definitely several per month
 
@tripleee they used to be several per day a few years back. And always in central India. At least now I know who not to hire if I move there...
 
right now, it seems like every digital marketing company in India wants to promote its services on Stack Exchange, but I don't understand how they all can be the best
 
@tripleee The best in different areas, duh. The best in internal decoration is not also the best in floor tiles. Although, if they all merged, then they'd take over the world. We can only be thankful they are only interested in being the best in one specific area.
 
8:11 AM
Are these posts spam? There's no clear affiliation, but dropping the same unattributed link twice in as many days does ring bells
 
Baeldung was recruiting freelancers to create content for them a few months ago, the quality has been extremely variable ... I would not be surprised if the OP is behind that content, even though it's simply attributed to "Baeldung"
 
@tripleee both posts should be deleted IMO; the accepted one could stand on its own but is naught but a citation, the other unusable without the link
 
@Adriaan I searched for the username + baeldung and I didn't get any other hits than the two on SO. Thus, I consider it highly unlikely to be promotion. Note as well that Baeldung is a rather popular site in the Java-world with strong SEO. Searching for lot of Java-related topics would tend to yield an article from Baeldung.com among the top results. So, the links might be there only because it's a popular site.
 
@VLAZ so a simple deletion based on them being link-only and copied content-only. Thanks!
 
8:21 AM
From my experience, the articles on the site aren't wrong tend to be simple and straight forward. Which isn't what I'm looking for if I'm searching online, as I'd already be aware of the simple things.
@Adriaan Yep, sounds OK to me
 
It's no longer link-only. They removed the link
 
So, it's "only"?
 
@AmitJoshi the dupe target you were proposing is closed as being a recommendation request...?
 
8:52 AM
@blackgreen First version of that question may be considered as resource request. I have edited that question long back to make it on-topic. I just cast a reopen vote on it. I cannot place reopen request here as I have my answer on that question. If someone does that, I will be thankful.
 
@tripleee no, it is a programming problem. End users don't deal with CDATA peculiarities
 
I guess
thanks
 
that doesn't mean the question is any good.
 
9:10 AM
what is an answer that contains an image of code flaggable as? NAA?
 
@blackgreen VLQ; it is an answer, just unusable unless the OP heavily edits, i.e. adds the code as text
 
VLQ right... sometimes I forget about that flag
 
That is, of course, only if that code is the backbone of the answer. If it's a side note and the answer stands on its own without it, I don't flag. I do always leave a canned comment about images of code though
 
It's a thank you answer with an image of code
 
9:32 AM
Is that ^ a new way of disguised spam?
 
@Adriaan Dunno. Really hard to say. But even if it is spam, it's not a new way. The scraping questions have always looked like that. Pretty sure we had several posts on Meta on it, as well.
Also, the scraping questions tend to be garbage. Well, more than the baseline garbage for the site, at least. Because a lot of them are "here is <link to page> how do I get information?". Which can also be spam to try and get visitors and/or links.
 
stackoverflow.com/a/74315176/4826457 this is NAA right? a comment?
 
10:19 AM
sponsored posts in the side bar? Really? The blog in itself was already of abysmal quality, and now this
 
look at the bright side, at least they do say it's sponsored
 
@SurajRao I guess it's at best a comment to the answer, examples of hardware that's not supported, it seems
 
11:18 AM
@Makyen You have suggested, in your comment, that the poster of this could raise a flag (after an edit) ... but can they? That is, don't they need 15 reps to do so?
... see also this Meta question. ;)
 
@Makyen I don't judge anyone. All I did was respond to the statement it would be exhausting. My personal choice is to close poor content, downvotes are reserved for false and poorly written answers or question that are either demanding the codes, like Stack Overflow would be a service, or just not solvable and the author is too lazy to edit the question in a way that meets community standards.
 
@AdrianMole hmmmmmmmmm. I thought that new users could flag their own questions, but...Catija's comment suggests that I'm wrong, I suppose.
 
@RyanM One of the few occasions when I can accept that both you and Mayken are wrong is when Catija is involved. ;-P
... but that question would perhaps be an example to answer Catija's comment in the linked Meta post?
 
11:35 AM
@JeanneDark Aha! So, I can rest easily, knowing that Makyen was not wrong. :)
 
But maybe that's not possible on SO due to its size? I didn't test it.
 
Shall we find a way to reduce your rep, then get a mod to delete one of your posts ... for science?
 
From the MSO question it didn't seem people were sure about it. Their test account was deleted, so I can't check it. If it was unregistered, it may hint at another possible explanation: It seems that unregistered accounts can't flag, so it may not have been due to a lack of rep.
 
Wait, it's not a possible explanation. If they asked a question with their test account, it can't have been unregistered.
 
11:42 AM
Yes, 1-rep users can indeed flag their own posts. (at least if they're registered; I did not test an unregistered account)
 
@RyanM Yeah - but that was a moderator's sock-puppet, so maybe it's different. :)
 
I actually had to create a new sock for that, because my other sock has 15 rep...
 
Odd socks? Very gauche.
 
Well, it's even socks now.
 
11:58 AM
 
Morning
 
actually I guess that's spam, the user's previous post looked quite similar
 
@RyanM Unregistered accounts shouldn't be able to flag even with enough rep.
 
Should we burninate the tag? Discuss
4
 
12:58 PM
 
1:08 PM
Is this behaviour (see my comment) worthy of a mod flag? Or will the system jump in to prevent repeat offences?
 
at some point they'll get answer-banned
 
Some point very soon. Answer bans seem to be a lot more eager to trigger. But from what I know, are also easier to get rid of (by getting some more rep, or something).
I've seen reports on Meta from users with 3-4 answers who also had an answer ban.
 
But two of those three NAAs would likely trigger an auto-flag for the mods ... because they are identical, I think.
 
@blackgreen unlikely
 
@Dharman why unlikely though?
 
1:19 PM
because answer bans work a little differently and are too easy to get out of. By the looks of it this users is incapable of getting answer-banned. But I don't know the exact algorithm
 
1:34 PM
 
1:54 PM
@jps Eh? This is an IDE
 
jps
@TylerH if these weird characters appear on three different programs, it seems to be an OS issue.
 
@jps I see, looks like it is also a dupe
 
2:16 PM
I miss being able to tell how other people reviewed stuff
 
@TylerH Badly.
 
I can't tell if you are saying you badly miss that as well or if you are saying people review stuff badly. But both apply, so I will assume both :-)
so frustrating though. "UserX reviewed this item: reviewed" wth is the point of the "reviewed" word there? I already know they reviewed it from the rest of that sentence
 
@TylerH I meant that people review stuff badly. But I didn't think of the other meaning. I do agree with "both"
 
@TylerH Where do you see that? If I go look at your reviews on your profile it tells me you if you vote to close or leave open
 
@NathanOliver I mean from the review itself
Or from a post timeline
Maybe it's different for different queues, but first questions just shows me "reviewed"
I didn't used to have to hunt down how a user reviewed a specific item in their profile or in the review queue history pages... the review item itself just told me
I'm pretty sure it still just tells moderators there, too
 
2:26 PM
idk. When I look in the review itself after it's been completed I see: TylerH reviewed this 5 mins ago: Close
 
For reference, this is the specific review I am looking at: stackoverflow.com/review/first-questions/33095346
Also holy moly you get 80 first question reviews a day?!
 
Aha. I think it might be as intended. In that queue you have an other action option, I think that just gets lumped into a "reviewed" category. If you look here you can see every other action is specifically listed
 
The "Reviewed" status means that the reviewer chose the "Other action" button, after performing some, uh ... other action.
 
So lazy programming -_-
 
... downvote, close-vote (you'll see that), added a comment (you'll see that, too), upvoted a comment, flagged the post, whatever.
But flagging a comment doesn't count as an action.
 
2:33 PM
yeah, I did one just now and close voted it and it showed up as 'reviewed'
 
@TylerH Well, the queue doesn't know what you did, just that you hit the button that you did something
 
@AdrianMole that makes sense given that you're reviewing the post, not comments under it
@NathanOliver but the site does, and the queue is part of the site
 
Also, I don't think posting an answer (for an FQ review) counts as an action. But it should.
 
especially if you are doing it from the review page itself, and the fact that they track that in order to make the 'other action' button clickable in the first place, they should already know exactly what you did
 
Okay, lazy programming
 
2:37 PM
:-)
 
Sometimes, I do my "other action" from outside the review queue (so I can use Advanced Flagging, for example). Then I have to refresh the review page to enable the Other Action button. I haven't tried that with an answer ... but I would imagine that, if I answered it, I would also give a "Looks OK" verdict. :)
... I filter for C and C++ in FQ, now. But, if I had R or regex Qs, I suppose I could post an answer, then hammer closed as a dupe. xD
Is this red-flag worthy?
 
just looks like a lost soul to me
 
@AdrianMole probably just a confused user
 
@KevinB ... or a soul who lost $200?
 
3:02 PM
 
@RyanM Huh... that's a comment that seems somewhat out of character. Either I've learned a lot in a year or I was being weird that day.
Or maybe there was a different question in an earlier draft...
 
@Catija no worries, we love you weird every day ...
 
:D
But it's been possible for ... as long as I've been on the site, so I think it's a bit odd.
 
3:22 PM
:sus:
 
 
1 hour later…
 
1 hour later…
6:25 PM
@andrewJames You could also flag it as R/A
 
Sorry - what is R/A? (I'm learning how this room works.) @JeanneDark
 
Or the user could mysteriously vanish whistles innocently
 
Rude / Abusive
 
@andrewJames The rude and abusive flag. Six of those delete a post and apply a penalty
 
grumble mods stealing flags grumble
 
6:29 PM
Got it - thank you. So R/As - do they generally get flagged here? Or is it typically all over too fast for a flag here to be needed?
 
@NathanOliver Run for mod and you don't need flags. Just sayin'...
 
@andrewJames As long as it's about a rude or spam post, you can discuss it in here
I just happened by at the right time is all
 
See also the FAQ
 
Or wrong time, if you're trying to pad your flag count :P
 
6:34 PM
@andrewJames We have a bot (smokedetector) that reports possible spam/ R/A posts and those do require some community assistance (flagging) to clean up. If you see posts that you believe are spam or R/A then you can post about it in this romm. We pretty much handle all moderation activites in this room, although there are some exceptions. Our FAQ has a lot of information about what we do and how we do it.
 
6:56 PM
 
 
1 hour later…
7:57 PM
 
8:17 PM
 
8:29 PM
I was under the impression that deletion and conversion to comment was reserved for users with the comment privilege. Is this an exception?
 
that doesn't make much sense to me, most comments as answers happen by people who don't have the comment privilege
 
@blackgreen wouldn't that restriction kind of defeat the purpose of this mechanism? A large number of NAAs are posted by newcomers
 
No, any answer can be converted to a comment. There is a meta post about it titled something like "how did this user post a comment"
 
it wouldn't make sense if converting it couldn't happen without the privilege
 
I recall reading somewhere that converting to comment only 50+ rep users was done precisely to avoid that confusion
i.e. others seeing that a user without the necessary rep is able to comment
 
8:34 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
such a great title wasted on an awful question
 
Liberate the title using del-votes
 
title: "How do i do X?" Description: "I need to do X."
 
@KevinB there, now it's free to be used elsewhere if it ever gest undeleted
 
 
1 hour later…
10:03 PM
@TylerH This isn't new, unfortunately. It doesn't tell moderators either; we see the same thing.
the only advantages we have are 1) we can find uncompleted review items from the post 2) we can instantly complete review items to find out how people voted
except triage! apparently we can't instantly complete Triage.
 
that would be too powerful
 
10:29 PM
I love this Triage item. Reviewed by two moderators, neither of whom actually were able to complete the task.
(and who came to opposite conclusions, although we both agreed that it was clear, just one also found duplicates)
 
lol
I guess SE does not trust mods to review triage and auto complete the task
 
@JeanneDark Confirmed that an unregistered 1-rep user cannot flag their own posts. There is a Flag option but clicking it does...nothing. At all. Not even an error message.
@Ethan I am unaware of any mod who can stand reviewing in that queue, so it's just as well :D
but yes we really ought to be able to insta-complete reviews there like we can literally everywhere else.
@miken32 not sure this is asking for off-site resources. Seems like it's asking about configuration options.
 
10:55 PM
I saw "Could anyone share, Is there any such configuration like that" as a resource request. Seems borderline server config as well, IMO.
 
ehhhhhh. It's configuring programmatically.
it sounds like they're trying to avoid the server config way of solving it :-)
 
If you feel the request should be binned I'm ok with that
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null (by request)
 
Any folks want to say if this is opinion-based or not? Seems like it to me but I'm not familiar with the language at all. stackoverflow.com/q/263191/1255289
 
Feel free to request for other reasons if you think they apply
@miken32 It seems to be, in essence, asking what the difference is and if there's any reason to choose one over the others. At the very worst, it should be edited to ask that objective question more clearly.
(not a C# SME; did some a long time ago but mostly going off the question and a couple top answers)
 
11:17 PM
 
11:34 PM
I just answered a question that I was very close to hammering. If anyone else feels that the page is similar enough to close, I won't be insulted. It was a bit of a coin flip. stackoverflow.com/q/74323241/2943403
 

« first day (3270 days earlier)      last day (324 days later) »