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fp feedback on autoflagged post: Keep batch file from being edited [MS]
Autoflagged FP: flagged by @SmokeDetector, @Rob, @CalvT
 
5:02 AM
@Machavity I'd say not, and also asks multiple stuff - first half asks about a compile time error, second half about some runtime error, and yeah, both without giving even a single line of code
 
5:47 AM
Would making a "null" edit to one's own closed post, simply to get it back into the reopen queue (after it's already been through that queue once and was left closed) be considered abuse?
... this is from a user with > 2k rep and the post has two current reopen votes (presumably, one is the OP's). I've seen it in review both yesterday and today.
 
6:17 AM
is this question on topic? It isn't about programming, not sure if it can be seen as about "a tool used by programmers"
 
6:30 AM
"strong experience in marketing" = posting spam answers on SO
 
7:21 AM
@AdrianMole How often does that trick work?
 
@JeanneDark I don't know. I do know that you can only cast a reopen vote once (which they presumably did to get it into review the first time); but, the fact that they were allowed to edit and submit for review after (presumably) the first round, suggests that there is no obvious limit.
... in which case, it is a clear potential vector for abuse.
That potential for abuse was mentioned in the Meta.SE post that announced the changes to edits and the reopen queue (Anita, IIRC). She seemed to think that it was not going to be problematical. I'll see if I can dig out the post ...
 
@AdrianMole yes
 
@RyanM Would you like a flag?
 
Unless a mod does it, because some people raise flags instead of checking the box on their edit and I like to be helpful when declining it...
@AdrianMole sure
@AdrianMole I believe part of the reason that it's assumed not to be a huge problem (and it's generally indeed not) is that such abuse can be flagged and mods can handle it.
 
@RyanM Done! I'm sure you can find the flag ... or I can give you a link to the review queue, if you want. :)
 
7:36 AM
already found it, thanks :-)
 
So, the mod tools can be useful? xD
 
Well... sort of. I found it by opening your flags page, lest you give the mod tools too much credit ;-)
Okay so yeah adding a space to the end of a line to get another round of review is definitely not okay. But...is this really a typo?
I sort of suspect it's a dupe though.
 
@RyanM being one of the close voters, I can't really say it isn't. Admittedly I didn't look for dupes.
 
@RyanM I don't think it's a typo but I also don't think it's worthy of a full answer/reopening. But that's beside the immediate point.
@blackgreen Here's the review, if you want to act ... stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/32180075
 
@blackgreen thanks, perfect. Hammered.
@AdrianMole as a mod with a universal hammer and unlimited close/reopen votes, though... happy to do the reopen/reclose myself :-)
 
7:44 AM
@RyanM Weird ... even after your hammering, it's still in the reopen queue.
 
argh
that bug just won't go away.
 
I call it the "Cody Effect".
 
Fixed, thanks.
 
@AdrianMole Usually I prefer to VtC as dupe over typo, but when there's already 2 close votes as something else, leaving a lonely comment with "does this answer your question" when the close banner says something else really irks me
plus in this case I do think it's a kind of typographical error
but... it's not an issue anymore
 
(and yes, that doesn't make the null-edit non-abusive in any case...they could have added a line explaining that it's not a typo, or something...)
 
7:48 AM
@blackgreen very relatable. tbh there have been times I wished I could override the typo close in favour of a dupe close, exactly because "typo" is being used broadly to cover a common logical error, and we have a dupe explaining the logical error in detail
 
... now I just have to wait for my flag to be declined handled. :)
 
although I absolutely do VtC as dupe even if it looks like a typo when I can override the close reason with the hammer
at least the hammer makes this always look better
 
@gnat that looks like a troll post not an actual question though...
 
8:05 AM
@AdrianMole Wait, I'm supposed to handle flags and not just discuss things related to them?!
 
Hehe
 
@SurajRao yeah it kind of does. I deleted it.
 
8:34 AM
Who is the sponsor (if that's what the icon means) for ?
 
@AdrianMole tangentially, the tag wiki includes a link to some guy's personal website. It should probably be removed
which is a dead page
 
The Cloud is dead. Long live the cloud?
 
@AdrianMole This looks related
 
Yeah - that seems to be the same icon. But do they actually own the Cloud? There was an outcry on Meta when some organization sponsored .
 
8:50 AM
@blackgreen It is listed as "source of this article" which suggests the contents were plagiarised.
Or dunno - if there is link to the source is it considered not plagiarism?
 
@VLAZ For tag Wikis, even if the source is cited, we don't like copied content.
 
Out of curiosity I tracked down the last copy of the article in the web archive. It's from January 2014. It was deleted at some point later the same year.
Oh, I see. The tag wiki history shows that a user with the same name as that of the website made initially created the tag wiki.
Yet in 2016 somebody completely re-wrote the tag wiki...
I don't think it's at all related to the original blog post that was copy/pasted it was based on.
 
9:28 AM
Spam combined with voting fraud - that's a new dimension!
 
jps
9:46 AM
@AdrianMole and now someone even upvoted question and answer...
 
10:07 AM
 
10:39 AM
@user692942 user targeting is not allowed in this room (see FAQ rule #20)
 
@Cristik why targeting? I see only two cv-pls for questions from the same OP that were asked 2 hours apart, it often happens that users ask several questions repeatedly which are all in need of moderation
 
@blackgreen from the rule "Posting multiple successive moderation requests for questions/answers/edits by the same user."
 
TBH I don't think two requests about the same OP qualify as "multiple", and those Qs were asked a short time apart, so it doesn't look like user692942 is going through that OP's questions in order to moderate them.
anyway I'm not a RO, this is just my interpretation
 
well, we can argue about the semantics of multiple, I just took that rule ad-literam, I also don't think user692942 was actively targeting that user
nonetheless, that rule is there for a reason
 
11:43 AM
@Cristik How is this user targetting exactly?
 
@Cristik It's also the user's Twitter handle which they have on their profile
 
@user692942 from that rule "Some examples of behaviors that are considered targeting a user ... Posting multiple successive moderation requests for questions/answers/edits by the same user."
 
Also, that Twitter profile is suspended...
 
some Trump wannabe? :)
 
Dunno. I clicked the Twitter symbol in the profile just to see if they had a link to that website there. Then I noticed that the name of the Twitter user is the same as the website anyway. I went to the tab to close it, as it wasn't needed and noticed the profile is suspended. No clue what happened. I just thought it's amusing since they apparently also post self-promotion here.
 
11:52 AM
@Cristik The most important part from rule #20 is probably: "Keep in mind that we are concerned about both not actually targeting users, and not having the appearance of targeting users. Thus, what's considered acceptable is conservative."
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12:08 PM
Why is there an icon on this tag? stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/web-applications
 
I hate ads that offer services I'm already subscribed to...
 
12:33 PM
@blackgreen exactly what happened
@JeanneDark The thing is I’m just going through the recent questions in my followed tags, didn’t even realise they were the same user.
 
I understand that. And that's probably the typical way of creating the appearance of user targeting and why I quoted that part. Whether or not it's enough in this case I gladly leave to others to decide :)
 
@Dharman Sponsored, I assume. By adding a little CSS: .post-tag .sponsor-tag-img {display: none;} it doesn't bother me. :;
Surprisingly, they actually used semantic CSS.
 
12:57 PM
@JeanneDark Same as , which I mentioned in here a few hours ago.
Sorry, meant that reply to @Dharman ... mobiles + Stack + Tropical Environment + beer ... issues. xD
 
tropical env?
 
Is this answer close enough to make it a duplicate of this one? The question seems to attract a lot of redundant answers.
 
1:13 PM
@Makyen shh, don't say anything or they'll wreck it
@Dharman it's also on ...
 
@mickmackusa I noticed you added the tag without excerpt to two questions. Given the unspecificity of this tag and recent burninations of punctuation-related tags, are you sure this is a necessary addition? I would like to remove these tags
 
1:30 PM
@blackgreen edited the question to add an "a" to the tag.
 
@RyanM isn't that just off-topic though?
 
@user692942 Yes, that happens sometimes. It's even happened to me in here without my knowing it, as I pay very little attention, basically none, to the user when moderating content. At the time, I was actually quite surprised to get a ping about it, because I really had no clue that it had happened. It's not a big deal if it's the result of going through a tag which you normally look at. Given how users sometimes post a batch of poor questions, it's fairly likely to happen, from time to time.
OTOH, user targeting does happen, even in here. It's something we don't want even the appearance of being facilitated through requests in SOCVR. So, it's looked for in requests (which is a large portion of why usernames are included in requests created by the Request Generator). When it's noticed, which is often by someone else noticing and posting a message about, it's something which ROs will look into.
If it's just a couple of requests which were made as you're going through recent posts in a tag, then "meh"; it happens. If asked about the requests, then just explain that's what you were doing.
If it gets past two, even over a more extended period of time, then it starts to look more and more like user targeting.
Assuming someone is just going through and moderating content on tags and not looking at a user's profile, searching for their posts, or otherwise doing something to intentionally focus on a user or that user's content (e.g. searching for terms they use, etc.), then my point of view on it is: just completely ignore the usercard on the post; moderate just the content. That will result in rare times when requests in here may start to look like there might be user targeting,
but that's something that should be easily handled by a message asking what's going on and getting an explanation. It may mean some requests are moved to /dev/null, if the user has been posting a substantial amount of really poor questions, but, IMO, that's better overall than forcing everyone to pay strict attention to users as they moderate content (who the user is really shouldn't be a part of moderating content).
 
@blackgreen I am not someone who is passionate about tag curation (or the general rules behind what is worth keeping/burninating). If it should be removed, I will not be insulted.
 
@TylerH Yeah, they probably forgot for some reason. It's better not to remind them. :(
 
jps
1:42 PM
@RyanM beautiful ;) can we call it zebra-formatting?
 
@Dharman Thailand - A country that lies entirely between the Equator and the Tropic of Cancer.
 
@RyanM Wasn't that something that was happening with the Stacks Editor??? Is SE running another trial? Did they turn forcing new users to use it back on?
 
@RyanM The answer to your question: Else they get the your post contains too much code error
 
jps
so they put 3 backticks between all lines and don't understand why they ended up with a zebra
I think they just misunderstoof the code formamting instructions.
similar case like this in which the OP thougt every code line needs to start with enter code here
 
@Makyen I thought that was "everything is inline code," but I wasn't paying too much attention to that particular kerfuffle, so don't take my word for it.
 
1:57 PM
@Makyen Brief testing with a test account showed the normal editor being used for new questions. However, that doesn't rule out a transient or A/B test. I haven't seen any indication that they were actually turning this on now, other than that they said "we are targeting the end of June" in "Ask Wizard Test Results and Next Steps".
 
@TheMaster That is...an unfortunate edge case of the gold-badge feature. I suspect you may have been able to hack around it by temporarily putting it back, since you weren't the first to add it...reopened it before I thought of that, though :-)
 
@RyanM Yeah, it's different. OTOH, they did make a change which was supposed to resolve the issue which resulted from "Is the new editor's inline code tool supposed to break up code blocks?", so it's not unlikely that it merely changed it to something else.
 
@RyanM But I didn't expect it before I cast my reopen vote. So the vote was already recorded and there wasn't anything I could do afterwards. Thanks for reopening ;)
 
@TheMaster I'm generally inclined to believe a gold badger that their own unilateral close vote was incorrect ;-)
 
2:15 PM
@RyanM I'm interested if anyone tests this. I bet the "you can't hammer this if you edit the tag" restriction will kick in.
 
@IanCampbell It's only if you are the first to add the tag
Since OP included the tag originally, someone can remove it and add it back and still hammer the question if they have a gold tag badge for it
 
Interesting "feature"
 
It's to prevent abuse of the tag to close questions you otherwise wouldn't be able to unilaterally close
if they included any time you added the tag (even if another user added it first), then it would provide a vector for abuse in the other direction: preventing a gold badge holder from rightly closing a tag about something just by manipulating tags.
Think to those close/reopen wars we used to have before mods instituted the one close/reopen rule for mjolniring.
 
Ah, that makes total sense. I forgot to consider the edge case when a gold badge holder would reopen and remove the tag.
 
@Dharman I posted on Meta. cc. @JeanneDark
 
2:57 PM
I'm pretty sure if I made the same mistake at work 10 times, they'd fire me.
 
@IanCampbell Good job your bosses don't count in binary. :)
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OK, that was a good one. I laughed out loud.
 
3:15 PM
what is the biggest pay raise in terms of percentage you have ever gotten from switching jobs
 
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Could I get a volunteer to test if I can hotlink to your deleted questions?
 
i will be your gunnie pig
 
@MFerguson ∞
 
🔫
 
3:20 PM
@MFerguson Does this go to your deleted questions?
 
🐖 🔫
 
whoa
 
Poor pigs, such smart and noble creatures.
 
Perfect, thanks so much!
 
3:22 PM
Just an hour or so ago, I had some Thai street food. Without saying what it was explicitly, I can indicate that, according to a well-known (Biblical) proverb, it would not have been suitable source material for a "silken purse". :)
 
You live in Thailand now? I imagine the beer must be cheap.
 
I don't live here - just visiting for about a month. I plan to end up living in Laos and/or Thailand, though.
 
@IanCampbell Why wouldn't you be able to provide a URL/link? It's just a URL. That doesn't mean that anyone other than that user and moderators will be able to view the page. Are you aware there's a generic URL which works the user who clicks the link to take them to their own page: your deleted questions and your deleted answers?
 
Beer was ~£1.70 for a 650ml bottle in a flower shop just down the road. They gave us a table with two seats and played music.
 
@AdrianMole interesting! For work/research? Or for pleasure?
I mean your plans to live there permanently
 
3:28 PM
Pleasure. I plan to retire in the next 12 months.
 
@AdrianMole you're kidding, right?
 
@Makyen I was not aware of that current user link. That's neat. Although, it doesn't take me to my deleted questions or answers.
 
@Turing85 About the flower shop? No. Anyone can sell beer ... if they have a fridge and a few seats, then why not?
 
@AdrianMole ... I meant the retirement plans
@AdrianMole will you retire from SO as well?
 
Also no ... and also no.
 
3:30 PM
No, he will finally run for moderator :-P
 
x)
 
@TylerH I'm Ian Campbell and I approve this message.
 
As opposed to running from moderators?
 
Thanks Makyen, I'll save those for later.
Although moderating whilst having a 3rd beer seems like a questionable move. =)
 
I seldom need a third when I'm out here. Back in Scotland 7 or more in a session isn't unusual, but here things are just different.
 
3:33 PM
@IanCampbell Moderate drunk and explain yourself on Meta sober.
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@IanCampbell sigh A copy & paste failure. I've fixed the links in the message. Interestingly, that copy and paste failure is actually a bug, as the wrong link is repeatably being copied (i.e. the link I was hovering over isn't the one that's copied).
 
We could start a support group MAD'M: Moderators Against Drunk Moderating.
 
Looks like they did allow (and apologize for) my comment on the unit testing blog post, mildly nice to see
 
My sister-in-law lives in Edinburgh. I'm looking forward to visiting. Just need to decide what time of year.
 
3:40 PM
took me way too long to find the post again because the layout has apparently been drinking again too
there is no visible ordering mechanism applied to the blog posts
 
Got a link? I want to see all the juicy drama.
 
stackoverflow.blog find the one that talks about unit testing; my comment is first
 
That was a pretty reasonable reply actually.
 
Yeah, that's really bad phrasing on their part. Good catch
 
I really want to reply that actually when SO was a small company without any paid products was when they tested their changes before pushing to prod
it's only been since they have pushed paid products so much that they have stopped testing
maybe it was a couple specific people who are not here anymore
anyway I hope the new 'do unit tests' ethos succeeds for everyone's sake
 
3:48 PM
> our tests are passing, so it's actually working as intended.
 
Hopefully they're good unit tests!
 
@KevinB Reminds me of what they say on DIY.SE about electrical multimeters... "don't trust it if it tells you no current is flowing through"
a somewhat counterintuitive explanation for how to use them
 
4:19 PM
 
5:15 PM
same user as the earlier Thunderbird one, apparently; I simply came across them among the recent questions (the majority of which were junk, unfortunately)
 
@jps is that even a coding related issue?
to me it sounds he is trying to deal with crypto currency rather then actually code something
 
jps
6:04 PM
@tacoshy I have really no clue what this question is about. Quite confusing.
 
@tacoshy I assume it's some cryptocurrency/web3/smart contract thing. Those attract...not the greatest questions.
 
6:19 PM
Is there a rule that disallows deleting a closed question and reposting it verbatim? I had tried to coax info out of them yesterday and the question was closed as needing detail.
 
it's just a bad idea
 
Yes, there is. Closing is supposed to be followed by improvement of the post and reopening. Delete + repost bypasses the entire process.
Also, deleting moves you closer to a question ban.
 
Ta. I'll just close vote again.
 
@tink If it's still close-worthy - feel free to.
 
I think it is. They basically don't know what the authentication method for the site is ... I gave them two hints yesterday which they seem to have ignored. However atm Stack Overflow seems grumpy - can't refresh the page. Will try again once I'm at work.
 
6:25 PM
Uh, are you sure you voted to close the question? You didn't accidentally close all of SO, I hope. I can't open any posts.
A-a-and, SO is back
 
was it ever really gone
 
6:36 PM
@tink Basically, no, that's not permitted. They should edit their original question. Unfortunately, at least the last time I checked, the UI on closed questions encourages people to ask a new question, which is often misunderstood by the OP to mean that they should just ask the same thing again. While some people would certainly just re-ask, the problem is made substantially worse due to the UI (which should explain that they need to edit and what they need to change, but really doesn't).
As to what to do about it: If it's just once, leave a polite comment telling them that's not what they should be doing. If they do it more than once, raise an "in need of moderator intervention" flag and explain what the issue is.
 
6:52 PM
@tink it's a really common occurrence, unfortunately. Makyen already said what needed to be said. If you want a few MSO reference: repost to avoid closure, repost to dodge votes, reposting answers
 
We have a canned response for question repetition, but we do warn users for doing that with answers as well. I've been amazed at how many high rep users do the latter.
 
I instantly think about a 3 letter user that always answer on typo caused question or duplicates and after posting votes for closure...
 
@Machavity I've once seen even a currently elected moderator do that
 
7:40 PM
@blackgreen only once?!
 
@Makyen Thank you for the explanation, comment and advice :)
@blackgreen I hear you ... I've seen it happen quite a few times over the last couple of weeks.
 
@TylerH That looks a clear, useful question to me. I'd be happy to edit out the OP's attempts and convert it to a "how-to" question with no attempt, and remove the "elegant" bit.
 
Heh. @Machavity I see high-rep users happily answering off-topics, too, because historical reasons? :D
 
@cigien There's no way to edit this without inserting your own interpretation of what OP wants.
OP has code that works and they want something that is more elegant because only they know what they really mean by 'elegant'. If the question is to be edited to be objective, it needs to be done by OP. However, the chances of that even being possible in a way that does not invalidate at least one of the myriad answers that already exist are slim to none.
 
@TylerH I don't really care what criteria the OP has for elegant solutions. Since it's unclear what the OP means by elegant, i.e. what their intent is, I don't see how I can possibly change the intent. Also, I don't see any answer that's invalidated by converting it to a "how-to" question. None of them directly address the code in the question.
 
7:53 PM
Bleh, I knew I should have closed that as a duplicate.
 
TylerH, cigien, I think that with "it works" it kind of asks to be posted on "CodeReview" rather than here? :)
 
@cigien By changing the question from "how do I make this more elegant" to "how do I achieve this specific, objective criterion" you are by definition changing the question being asked (e.g. the intent) and inserting your own interpretation of what 'more elegant' means by choosing a criterion in the first place, rather than asking OP to choose one themselves
@tink Yes, this would be a good fit for Code Review IMO
 
@TylerH Yes, which is permitted. It's like converting a resource request to a "how-to" question. Also, the fact that it would also work on codereview is irrelevant to whether it should be closed on SO.
 
@cigien No, it is not permitted to change what someone else is asking when they don't offer that information in the first place
 
@IanCampbell Do you have a link to a target? If not, I'm going ahead and editing it. There's useful content there, and the question can be quite trivially salvaged.
 
7:57 PM
If someone is asking how to do something and they give things they want to achieve and just word it poorly (e.g. in an opinionated way), you can fix that kind of question yourself, because you're not having to guess at what OP wanted.
 
I'm trying to track down the perfect one. I know I've answered something very similar in the past.
 
If someone just asks "how can I make this code more elegant" without explaining what they mean... non-OPs can't fix that
 
To clarify, I have no intent of inserting my own interpretation of "elegant". I plan on just editing out that part entirely.
Let's see what Ian digs up.
 
So you intend to remove the question from the question?
I don't see how that will improve things
 
I see cigien's side of things though. The duplicate I am thinking of is basically just this one answer there are a lot of other approaches provided here.
 
8:02 PM
@TylerH No. I intend to replace the request for "better" code, with just a request for code. Honestly, people shouldn't share their attempts (working, or otherwise) when the problem statement is clear, and narrowly scoped. Of course, I understand users being wary of doing that, given how often questions without an attempt get closed as "needs focus".
 
The question won't make sense then. "Here's how I did it. How do I do it"? Because you definitely should not remove OP's own attempt from the question. If you consider just focusing on the fragment of a question at the very end, which asks for apply or a for loop, you could ask how to do it using those two methods, but that would invalidate 4 of the 8 answers (which don't use that).
in general it is not worth bending over backward to assist with people who cannot be bothered to ask a question that doesn't violate the site's asking guidelines so clearly...
especially not worth it when the OP gets 8 answers from eager beavers and 11 upvotes, to boot. They don't need our help; just let this one remain closed; I think that is the most useful outcome for all involved. OP and future readers get the signal that such a question as asked is off-topic, the answerers and asker still get their rep, and the asker gets 8 different ways to refer back to how to do it.
 
I agree with TylerH This won't be any more useful. The question needs to go to Code Review. Not a fit for so at all. He doesn't have a problem. He has working code.
 
Personally I think the most important thing to happen here is that 9 different users in the community need to learn that "more elegant" questions should not be asked and answered... we lose that very important signal if we reopen the question and indirectly reward them for answering such questions in the first place instead of slapping their proverbial wrist.
 
I think you've misunderstood my goal here. I have absolutely no intent of helping the asker, nor do I care if they find the solution they want, or are otherwise helped, and I definitely don't care about any rep the asker, or answerers may get. My goal is simple; can I contribute positively to the Q&A repo? In this case, it seems to be a very clear cut "yes".
If you want to teach the OP to ask better questions, or teach answerers to be more careful in which questions they answer, go right ahead, but please try and avoid doing this at the cost of content on the site.
 
@TylerH Well, I have bad news for you. I don't think that's going to happen.
I can't find a good duplicate target that's more than "change all columns based on the value of the previous column". So I guess I wouldn't hammer the general question.
And in my search, I found some that would go better the other way. With the new question as the target.
Although the highest scoring answer here is very specific to the question author's data to be poorly generalizable.
 
8:18 PM
@TylerH I've edited it. It really does look like it makes sense. There's an example data frame, and desired output. Could you take a look?
 
@IanCampbell LOL, I know, unfortunately
@cigien I have already given my opinion on that type of edit. I am not going to start a rollback war but I disagree with the action that was taken.
 
@TylerH Fair enough. Thanks for checking.
 
Now it probably is an an nth duplicate
 
Sure, but given that it's been on HNQ for a couple of days (giving time for duplicate targets to be found), and at least one SME in the room has actively searched for one without success, I'm guessing there isn't an appropriate target. If one is found eventually, I have no issues with it being closed as such, of course.
 
The closest I found was this, but the new question is so much better.
I also edited in some other terms for SEO. I think the site is a better place. =P
 
8:37 PM
@SmokeDetector sigh It would be nice if there was a level at which each NAA and VLQ flag either counted as a "recommend deletion"/"delete" review result and/or just deleted the post. This one had 9 NAA and VLQ flags, which really should be enough to delete an answer without the need for more reviews in the review queue or a moderator having to step in.
 
As you have rightfully pointed out elsewhere, the -100 penalty is a powerful method to get someone to look into abuse.
Otherwise, I could just quietly set my sock puppet ring to NAA flag my enemies pals' answers. (Good luck finding them Dharman)
 
True. It would need some level of oversight. OTOH, for deletion from the review queues for those types of flags, all the OP has to do is vote to undelete, and the post is undeleted and a mod auto-flag. So, that could be sufficient, as long as the user is also notified of the deletion, which isn't the case for some types of deletion.
 
Excellent point, but without the rep loss, how would you even know your answer was deleted (assuming it was more than 60 days old)?
I guess maybe it could generate an inbox message to provide feedback and tip you off to abuse.
 
As mentioned, the user would need to be notified, which is not currently the case, at least for non-review based deletions, as far as I'm aware. I don't know if deletion from review results in a notification.
 
Bleh, sorry, I read that sentence and misunderstood.
 
8:48 PM
np
 
Sounds so reasonable, I bet there is a feature request somewhere like that. If not, I'd upvote that.
 
9:11 PM
@cigien well, some of us have HNQ turned off :-)
@IanCampbell perhaps it's a case where older questions are better duped against the newer
 
@TylerH How are we supposed to lure you to our tiny other StackExchange sites without HNQ?
Having spam you need to flag?
 
Scenario: question about an "if" condition not working as expected. Resolution is exclusively about fixing the boolean logic. I actually have found a canonical for the particular logic in this, but it's in another programming language. Close as typo, or hammer anyway?
 
@blackgreen if it is a typographical error, close it as a typographical error.
There are very few situations where it is appropriate to close a language-specific question as a duplicate of a question in a different language
 
@TylerH IDK, does getting a boolean op wrong a typo? (spoiler: I vtc'ed as typo)
that's a logic error
 
It depends on the error I would say
The typographical error reason also covers 'errors not likely to be useful to other readers'
 
9:21 PM
Q: why !a || !b always produce true? A: it should be !a && !b
 
Yeah, that's a logic error, but not one particularly... programming-specific, in terms of programming logic. OP just did not sit down and think about this one out loud; I would not find that particularly useful
though depending on the rest of the question info/broader context I may or may not bother VTC
 
conceptual typo?
there's a canonical in JS though: stackoverflow.com/questions/6115801/…
 
@blackgreen Hmm, that actually looks like it doesn't need the JS tag because OP wrote pseudo code in the first place
 
answers that just copy and paste the offcial documentations should be custom flagged right?
 
@TylerH oh, right
 
9:26 PM
Yeah, but the answers are and include links to javascript pages.
 
?? I was talking to a completely different case.
 
Sorry, I was replying to Tyler. I have an unnatural aversion to pinging people which has come back to bite me.
 
I have an unnatural aversion to boolean logic typos
 
@IanCampbell I've adjusted the tag to be language-agnostic and added a blurb about OP working in jQuery to keep the validity of all the answers, but allow for it to be used as a dupe target for other language questions where appropriate.
 
sounds good; anyway my vote on this one is gone. meh
the close queue will do the rest. or not.
 
9:30 PM
Ironically, one of the answers to the canonical made the exact same logical error. =)
@tacoshy Can you link the example? Does it include a reference?
 
he just mentions that this is the offical google support suggestion, the rest is a 1:1 copy paste
 
Try not to post just a bare link in chat. It's within 2 minutes, so edit in any other text and it will fix the problem
 
Apparently it's also a no repro question looking at OP's self-answer
 
Here's a link to the question: stackoverflow.com/questions/48624580/… I'll bin the one-box
 
9:36 PM
to late Ian
 
No worries, Tyler helped us out. Next time.
It seems that answer is actually from the email that Google sends. So they've sort of referenced it the best they can.
 
a block quote would be better at least
 
Yes, a block quote would be an improvement. Honestly, I'm torn on this one. This Meta discussion is relevant: Can I copy & paste documentation from Google or other sources? But its about the long lost documentation feature.
 
10:01 PM
What should be the best course of action to propose a tag synonym if I don't have the 5 rep point on that tag? Should I propose it in a meta post?
 
@β.εηοιτ.βε yep...and even if you do have the points, you probably still need the meta post, because proposed tag synonyms are basically totally undiscoverable.
I would be shocked if more than a tiny handful of tag synonyms were approved by 5 users voting for them (or whatever the number is) rather than by moderators.
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I didn't even know /tags/synonyms existed until like 2 months ago.
 
@IanCampbell I was today years old when I learned about that page, or at least that it's got useful mod features...
 
Yes, the pending approval tab is helpful. R users seem to be prolific synonym suggesters.
 
Hmm, there are definitely some not-great proposals in the list, but also some that are probably good.
 
10:10 PM
Indeed, I downvoted one
The real question is, can I post a request for a synonym proposal?
 

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