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4:00 PM
@KevinM.Mansour well, we can amend that [rolls the sleeves] :)
 
@OlegValter What is rolls the sleeves?
 
@KevinM.Mansour LMGTFY
> informal : to prepare to work hard
 
@OlegValter Good :)
My To-Do list is:
Make an Event listener for Buttons.
Make Seprator Dragable.
Make Headers.
Add Chars with spaces, num lines, and paragraphs counts.
 
@KevinM.Mansour yeah, its more conventional use is "roll up one's sleeves", sorry
 
@OlegValter No Problem.
Am I missing anything in My To-Do List?
 
4:16 PM
@KevinM.Mansour Don't people also do that when starting a fight? :D
 
@KevinM.Mansour dunno, it's your list :)
 
@OlegValter Good :)
@Scratte That is funny. :)
 
@Scratte I think so :)
 
Oleg just doesn't seem like a someone who will pick a fight..
More like someone who will implement a randomizer that decides who wins :D
 
@Scratte if I can implement a randomizer for that, why wouldn't I add a cheat code that will make me win and then pick a fight? :)
@Scratte but you're right, not the type
 
4:29 PM
Can I close this Pull Request?
Since everyone reviewed code and I added them to my to do list.
Also I want to delete the dev branch and recreate it.
 
@OlegValter That's not the same as picking a fight. I know you like to argue and I'm sure you like it when people see that you are right. So I'd not fault you for rigging the randomizer ;)
 
@KevinM.Mansour did you drop the code from it?
 
@OlegValter I do not understand.
 
@KevinM.Mansour I mean, do you not intend on using the changes from it?
 
@OlegValter Yes.
 
4:37 PM
@Scratte hm, why not? If I know I'll win, I am all for picking fights :)
 
4:59 PM
@10Rep Isn't your bot hosted on Online Server?
 
5:10 PM
@OlegValter lol! I see.. :)
 
5:28 PM
@KevinM.Mansour Not yet, but I plan to do so :)
I want to finish it make sure there are no bugs before hosting it
 
5:40 PM
@10Rep Good I tried it in its room but it didn't respond for that I asked.
Thank you. :)
@OlegValter What If deleted dev branch? Does the master branch will be affected or lose any edits I pushed to it?
 
@Scratte hehe :)
@KevinM.Mansour why would you think one branch could affect another branch? :) That's the whole point of branching - making them independent
 
@OlegValter Good :)
So what about the Pull Request?
 
I just realised... my bot account got hacked!
 
@10Rep Got Hacked!?!
 
Yes, and as a result I got a notification from google that someone tried to access my gmail account.
I think it was leaked through github... :|
@KevinM.Mansour You see all these messages? chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/52468079 I didn't post those.
And someone also tried to get into my twitter... damn
 
5:54 PM
@10Rep Take Care.
@10Rep I thought you how posted them.
Add Message to make sure. no click on those links ever.
@10Rep What?
Secure your account.
 
Yes... it's the same person, I know that for sure.
I've secured my accounts and I know exactly how it was leaked.
 
@10Rep How it was leaked?
I hate "leaking". :(
 
to run my bot, I had to log in with the credentials through python code
and then my credentials were accidentally posted... I'm an idiot :)
 
@10Rep LOL!
Take Care next time.
How is that related to twitter?
 
I'm lucky that that was not my personal account... I will
 
5:59 PM
@KevinM.Mansour what about the pull request?
 
@KevinM.Mansour I have the same login with twitter
and a lot of other sites
 
gosh, you need a mod to clean up... Apart from other issues
 
The hacker was kind enough to send a message: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/52467918
 
@10Rep Isn't your bot credentials are different than your personal accounts credentials?
 
@KevinM.Mansour I never used twitter with my personal account, luckily.
 
6:01 PM
@10Rep I more disappointed that the person who hacked you seems Russian
 
He is a Russian Hacker.
 
@OlegValter They are from bissen, luxembourg. Not russian, but they could be of russian ethnicity.
 
@10Rep wait, you have an approximate location?
I was just going with the video titles :)
 
Also, I found that one different IP adress logged in through openid.stackexchange.com :)
 
@10Rep Firefox on Windows.
 
6:04 PM
@10Rep that might've been a proxy, no?
 
He is not a hacker at all.
@OlegValter You can read the video titles, no?
 
@KevinM.Mansour yes, that's what I said
 
@OlegValter What's a proxy?
 
@10Rep VPN in other words.
@OlegValter Good :)
 
Oh yeah, that could be true. But I don't want to go after them.
 
6:06 PM
@10Rep well, I mean, they could've been proxying the request through another server (like via VPN or a Tor node)
that one seems to be a nationalist as well
anyways, luckily, they seem harmless :)
 
They could have done worse... but now how do I clean the chatroom up?
 
@10Rep mod flag, they will come and clean up - explain you were hacked
 
Hmm.. that is not a bad hacker really. Just someone that used your posted credentials to mess a little with your bot. It could have been much much worse.
 
@10Rep Flag every message.
 
6:09 PM
@KevinM.Mansour one should be enough :)
 
Hacky, but it works I guess. I'd better be careful in the future.
 
@10Rep better clean those up, though, those videos have no place on SO
@10Rep meh, who didn't accidentally push credentials to GH at some point :)
 
@OlegValter OK.
 
@Scratte yeah, they seem to be sort of a grey hat
 
I wish room owners could just delete messages...
 
6:13 PM
@10Rep Take Care Next Time.
@10Rep Chat is Useless.
 
lol, I will take care. Thank you :)
 
Good Luck. :)
 
@10Rep well, I don't think it's that big of a burden for mods - this stuff happens
 
@OlegValter I should explain that it was someone else who posted it through my bot account, right?
 
@OlegValter Is that something special? "gray hat"?
 
6:17 PM
@10Rep There is Hacker hacked my account and posted this messages. I have recovered my account and please delete this messages. Thank you. :)
@Scratte White Hat, Grey Hat, Black Hat.
 
They could have used the credentials and changed the password on it..
 
@Scratte maybe they are hackers who aren't oficially working as hackers but they still report any vulnerabilities to people.
 
Also.. you never have to store your credentials in a file. Not even for a bot.. just use the language feature that prompts you for credentials on startup.
@KevinM.Mansour I see. Thanks :)
 
Do I even need to log in through code? technically I don't need to do that....
 
It's convenient to just start the bot up and it logs in on it's own.. but make it prompt you for both "passwords". The login email and the password.
 
Most language have a special feature for this so that it's not even kept in memory.
@KevinM.Mansour and it says "To run WelcomeBot, run nocrash.sh and log in with your Stack Exchange OpenID credentials." :)
 
I think python has something similar... let me do some research :)
 
@10Rep Of course the snake has this.. :)
 
@Scratte They do not store data in code.
@Scratte That is funny.
 
@10Rep I flagged it already (sorry for not informing you)
 
@Scratte Awesome.
 
@KevinM.Mansour yeah - a white hat would've just reported it and went on; since they did trash-post, but did not do anything else - a grey hat. What I am worried, though, is that they tried to log in - they could've been trying to do more but just failed
@Scratte I see the project is growing :)
 
@OlegValter That is true - they tried getting into my twitter account a few hours ago - but I've changed my passwords everywhere, so I think I'm good now.
 
@10Rep or maybe they would've just done the same thing to your social accounts :) If I were one, I would've definitely check if the password matches other accounts - so many folks out there use one password for all or many their accounts it's ridiculous
 
@10Rep Use different passwords on all sites not same.
 
6:33 PM
@OlegValter I was one of those folks for a while :)
@Scratte I like that you can toggle the border width - that's super cool :)
 
@OlegValter I wanted people to test for bugs.. no bugs have come in. But feature-requests have :D
 
What is "Bumped by Community user"?
 
@KevinM.Mansour Means the Community user did something so the post was bumped (put on the home page.. at the top of the list as if it was edited or Answered)
 
@Scratte Thank you. :)
 
@Scratte You might want to use Stacks.setTooltipText()
 
6:41 PM
@double-beep Hmm.. yes.. no. It takes forever to make the screenshots :(
And I'm personally against Stacks horrible spacy invasive tooltips.
But.. at least one can turn them off :)
 
@OlegValter What if I deleted the dev branch, What will happen to this Pull Request? Sorry for a lot of questions.
 
@double-beep How important do you think it is?
 
you mean how important using Stacks tooltips is in my opinion?
 
Yes.
It'll take about 4 hours of work..
 
4h??
 
6:46 PM
Especially since the spacey tooltips means I'll not only need to make the base-image of what I have and add the tooltips, but I need to change the base to make room for the humongous bubble of space it requires.
@double-beep Yup. Took me 6 hours to do this one.
 
ok.. If you don't like them you can use your own
 
2 of then because I messed up and the images weren't exactly aligned, so when toggling between tooltips and no tooltips, the image would look like it moved.. or rather the buttons.
@double-beep It's just the standard one when adding text to the title field of an element.
I'll try to find them on Stacks Design.
 
@Scratte I... don't think I understand that :(
 
@double-beep When the user toggles the tooltip on/off, the only change is suppose to be seeing the tooltip come on or go away. Not seeing the buttons move :) The preview are all just images.
On this one it's just images..
But since the images weren't perfectly aligned, it looked like the buttons were moving. So I had to re-do some of them.
 
7:05 PM
> kevinmmansour deleted the dev branch 2 minutes ago
hmmm
 
@double-beep That is funny.
 
@double-beep Did you push to that?
 
@double-beep I have deleted the dev branch and recreated it clean and also I have closed my pull request but all the notices that you and Oleg Valter added is on my To-Do List.
My Job now is to remove OnClick and setup an EventListener.
 
But why do you delete the branch?
Recreateing it cleans means that the history is lost on it.
You can merge into the dev branch if you have made changes to another branch.
 
@Scratte Cleaning since I pushed the Pink Header Menu for testing purpose.
 
7:17 PM
@KevinM.Mansour I think that's not how people are suppose to use git.
So someone.. could be working on that branch and making use of the history on it.
Deleting a branch and recreating it makes a right mess for people that have cloned the repository.
 
@Scratte I have just pushed something for testing purpose then people have reviewed it and I got suggestions. That is all.
 
Is this not the repository that you put on the meta post?
 
@Scratte I have two branches master and dev. master is main branch and the dev branch is for testing purpose.
@Scratte Yes.
The Community Ads 2021.
 
So don't delete your branches. I'd expect people have cloned this repository..
 
@Scratte They cloned the master branch but the dev is for testing purpose.
 
7:22 PM
No.. that is not possible.
 
Only one person forked the repository... but @Scratte is right, it's good practice to not delete branches.
 
@10Rep OK.
 
You either clone it or your don't. There's no "just clone this one branch"
@10Rep missing a not somewhere? :) It's returned :D
 
@Scratte As 10Rep said: There is only one person and he forked the master branch.
 
lol I got confused there
 
7:24 PM
@KevinM.Mansour How can one only fork one branch? Is that a GitHub feature or something I know nothing of?
 
@Scratte He fork a branch to his account.
 
@KevinM.Mansour Normally you cannot fork a branch. You can only fork the repository including all branches.
 
@KevinM.Mansour You can't fork only one branch - there's no option to do so. I just tried....
 
@Scratte I am not sure. :)
 
@KevinM.Mansour I am..
 
7:26 PM
@Scratte Good :)
 
So whoever forked your repository is probably not going to like that.
 
@Scratte Who forked is "Oleg Valter". :)
 
I think it was @OlegValter who forked it...
 
How do you see that it's been forked?
 
7:28 PM
Well.. Oleg is probably to have to untrack that branch then.
 
@Scratte When he forked there was only the master branch.
 
@KevinM.Mansour Nice :) Didn't know about that.
 
@Scratte Good :)
 
@KevinM.Mansour How do you know Oleg did not pull from origin at any time?
 
@Scratte I don't understand. When he forked the repository there was only the master branch and he push to his fork then create a pull request. I am who only pushed to dev branch.
 
7:31 PM
Someone's bot also forked it, I think :D
 
@Scratte Yes.
From Minutes.
 
I wonder who did that... so rude! If I were in that place I'd do it with my main github account... (jk)
 
@10Rep That is funny. :)
 
@KevinM.Mansour The branch is part of the repository. It's in the index.. every branch is part of the repository. When you fetch, you'll get it all.. new branched or deleted! branches.. so you can delete your branch and the next time someone fetches, the branch is gone from their index too.
 
@Scratte OK.
 
7:35 PM
Once you check out a branch it's automatically tracking changes (depending on the setup), but if I recall correctly it will only prompt you to track if you create a new branch. You can change the tracking at any point though.
 
Speaking of repositories, can someone else check if my bot's website is up? closinator.github.io. I think it should be working, but I'm not a web dev. (It's running for me, but I want to test to see if it's on the internet).
 
@10Rep Works.
 
Not really sure.. it looks a little messy. Is this up?
 
@Scratte yup, that is what it looks like... I suck at html :D
 
@10Rep You need some CSS. :)
 
7:37 PM
I don't know what to do to make it look good :D
 
@10Rep Where is the repository?
 
@10Rep First you need to know what you want it to look like.
 
@Scratte Mapping the UI in photoshop?
 
@10Rep I just do it in my head. Or some crude mockup.
 
@10Rep Map it in your brain.
 
7:39 PM
I'll try that... for one I need a logo
 
Once you know what you want it to look like, you read a little about CSS and styling.. to get the general idea.. and then for every thing you need, you search like mad and read Stack Overflow posts :D
 
@10Rep Close Icon, no?
 
@10Rep What does a Closinator do? Close posts?
 
@Scratte It's like smoke detector but for low quality posts instead of spam. The long term goal is to reduce the size of the close votes queue
 
@Scratte OK. So, next time I wouldn't delete the branch anyway.
 
7:42 PM
@10Rep Consider at least writing what TP and LQ and those things means on your site.
At this point it might as well be I4 and H- ..
 
@Scratte You mean what the acronym stands for? Ok.
 
@KevinM.Mansour I can't remember if it's possible to put a description on a branch. But if you have one for your own testing purposes on a public repository, I'd probably call it "DoNotUse"
@10Rep Yes.. :)
 
@Scratte OK. Thank you. :)
 
@10Rep I think Stack has one such too. It sends post to the Low Quality Posts queue that should not get deleted.. but that are getting deleted :(
 
Can others contribute to personal repository?
 
7:46 PM
@10Rep If you don't know how you want your website should look like, just search for it. "Ideas for website structure" or similar :)
@KevinM.Mansour Not if it's private. Then they cannot see it.
 
@Scratte The difference is that the one Stack has doesn't report them to a chatroom so that trusted members of the community can handle it properly. The problem is the LQP is available to 2k who are mostly not aware of moderation.
 
@10Rep I think you do not understand reputation :) There's no correlation between reputation and curation abilities :)
 
@Scratte Yes, I agree with that. That's my point. 2k is hard to get but most 2k users don't know the rules of the queue.
 
@10Rep What do you know so far about HTML & CSS?
 
@KevinM.Mansour I know how to write a css class, and I know basic html tags, as well as some css syntax.
 
7:49 PM
@10Rep I have forked your repository and I will contribute to it. :)
 
@KevinM.Mansour Thank you :)
 
@10Rep How do you like this UI?
 
@KevinM.Mansour That's pretty good, but will it fit for the homepage?
 
@10Rep So do you like to create same UI for your website?
 
@KevinM.Mansour If it fits, then yes :)
 
7:52 PM
It will be a bit better since we will use latest versions.
@10Rep Sure. It will fit.
 
Ok then, thank you!
 
@10Rep This UI has been created using Bootstrap CSS Framework.
Or in other words "Twitter Bootstrap" since creators of this library worked in Twitter company.
 
@KevinM.Mansour That's deep territory for me, but I'll try to understand what you are doing. :)
 
@10Rep Boostrap is the easiest framework. Don't worry. Everyone learns.
 
@KevinM.Mansour If you say so :)
 
7:56 PM
@10Rep First: We need to connect Bootstrap to your HTML file.
 
@KevinM.Mansour I'm editing the HTMl right now - how do you do it?
 
@10Rep Do you know the head element?
 
Yes, you mean <head> at the top right?
 
@10Rep Right. :)
 
What do I put there?
 
7:58 PM
Between two head tag (<head></head>), paste this code:
<link href="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/bootstrap@5.0.2/dist/css/bootstrap.min.css" rel="stylesheet" integrity="sha384-EVSTQN3/azprG1Anm3QDgpJLIm9Nao0Yz1ztcQTwFspd3yD65VohhpuuCOmLASjC" crossorigin="anonymous">
<script src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/bootstrap@5.0.2/dist/js/bootstrap.bundle.min.js" integrity="sha384-MrcW6ZMFYlzcLA8Nl+NtUVF0sA7MsXsP1UyJoMp4YLEuNSfAP+JcXn/tWtIaxVXM" crossorigin="anonymous"></script>
 
Ok, I've done that.
 
@10Rep So this is called CDN. A way to connect Frameworks to your projects.
Second: You will need a Navbar.
 
Ok
 
@10Rep Do you know the body tags?
 
of course :)
 
8:01 PM
What is a CDN?
 
@Scratte Content delivery network.
@10Rep Paste this code between body tags:
<nav class="navbar navbar-expand-lg navbar-light bg-light">
  <div class="container-fluid">
    <a class="navbar-brand" href="#">Navbar</a>
    <button class="navbar-toggler" type="button" data-bs-toggle="collapse" data-bs-target="#navbarNav" aria-controls="navbarNav" aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Toggle navigation">
      <span class="navbar-toggler-icon"></span>
    </button>
    <div class="collapse navbar-collapse" id="navbarNav">
      <ul class="navbar-nav">
        <li class="nav-item">
 
Ok, I've done that. It already looks better :)
 
@10Rep So, save file and preview your HTML file.
 
I've already done that lol
 
@10Rep Do you see a navbar in the top of the page?
@10Rep That is funny. :)
 
8:07 PM
@KevinM.Mansour Yeah, it's linking to both of the html files
 
@10Rep Yes.
Just remove the above code and add this:
<nav class="navbar navbar-expand-lg navbar-light bg-light">
  <div class="container-fluid">
    <a class="navbar-brand" href="#">Navbar</a>
    <button class="navbar-toggler" type="button" data-bs-toggle="collapse" data-bs-target="#navbarNav" aria-controls="navbarNav" aria-expanded="false" aria-label="Toggle navigation">
      <span class="navbar-toggler-icon"></span>
    </button>
    <div class="collapse navbar-collapse" id="navbarNav">
      <ul class="navbar-nav">
        <li class="nav-item">
 
Ok, I've done that. This is my entire code now:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width">
<title>Closinator</title>
<link href="style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<link href="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/bootstrap@5.0.2/dist/css/bootstrap.min.css" rel="stylesheet" integrity="sha384-EVSTQN3/azprG1Anm3QDgpJLIm9Nao0Yz1ztcQTwFspd3yD65VohhpuuCOmLASjC" crossorigin="anonymous">
<script src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/bootstrap@5.0.2/dist/js/bootstrap.bundle.min.js" integrity="sha384-MrcW6ZMFYlzcLA8Nl+NtUVF0sA7MsXsP1UyJoMp4YLEuNSfAP+JcXn/tWtIaxVXM" crossorigin="anonymou
 
@10Rep Great! Do you see this line <a class="navbar-brand" href="#">Navbar</a> ?
 
8:30 PM
@10Rep I will make a pull request with this new navbar.
Sorry for late reply.
 
 
2 hours later…
10:12 PM
@10Rep So far, I have made the pull request, Check it in GitHub.
 
10:27 PM
gosh, some people are absolutely insufferable
 
That deleted comment? Yeah.
They lucked out that CMs are already looking into that. Otherwise, I would have just deleted the whole thing.
 
@CodyGray well, I mean the whole post
 
Haha, fair enough.
Rep entitlement is a curious phenomenon.
There have been a couple of times when we've done site-wide rep recalculations, and oh you should have seen the whining.
 
@CodyGray red flags came off as soon as I read "I put it on my CV" :)
@CodyGray I can imagine that...
 
Now, rep is recalculated automatically, but in the old days, recalcs had to be run manually.
So all the stuff where you lose rep by posts being deleted, etc. didn't necessarily show up immediately until a rep recalc was manually run.
 
10:40 PM
@CodyGray huh, I assume some got pretty drastic deductions after recalcs :)
I sort of want to repost their latest comment for posterity...
 
If only there were only one.
 
@CodyGray huh, thanks :) I've been following it since the posting, though, so I've seen all of them (really an insufferable type)
 
Oh, me too. :-)
 

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