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9:16 AM
@RaghavSood If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much
 
9:44 AM
@Mehdi do you use confusion matrix?
 
10:02 AM
yes
 
so I got f1, macro avg and weighted avg as far as I know f1 score is the one that concludes if your classification si good or not
right?
macro avg and weighted avg I've read that you can use either macro or weighted regarding how you support looks like
 
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Jun 14 '20 at 22:03, by Mauker
I'll now abolish my master degree as well then
 
the F1 score measures the accuracy of your model
you pick a metric that you want to optimise, you can't optimise them all, so you need to pick the one that works best for you
"i want my model to not miss true positives at the expense of including false positives" or "i want my model not to include false positives at the expense of missing true positives" etc..
only you can know what you want to optimise for
read the first answer here quora.com/What-is-an-intuitive-explanation-of-F-score (please don't ban me Tim for linking Quora)
 
10:43 AM
yes, but should I take macro or weighted into consideration?
hmm
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Q: macro average and weighted average meaning in classification_report

user10296606I use the "classification_report" from from sklearn.metrics import classification_report in order to evaluate the imbalanced binary classification Classification Report : precision recall f1-score support 0 1.00 1.00 1.00 28432 1 ...

these are about the F1 too
yea thanks mehdi
I'll have a look into these
the thing is my dataset is kind of 100, 40, 30 - positive, negative, neutral
 
11:31 AM
@Mehdi I feel like being in a stand up scenario fitted me well in the first months but now things become too hectic and I get too many responsibilities. I will be involved in the releases etc while Im on my best to simply code and have it reviewed. I have a contract under a recrutement agency for a year. What can I do? Must I sit this year out or take action now and perhaps.. swtich job or whatsoever? Is that even possible with a signed contract cause I don't think so
 
well
> I get too many responsibilities
ofc you do
> things become too hectic
ofc they do
 
In different sectors this used to give me energy, but not in IT as I figured. Such takes time to figure out but I'm quite sure now
 
I hate it too
 
11:47 AM
So, perhaps I should instead look for bigger IT companies instead where the pressure is lower when things could go wrong
 
you know it better man
but I feel you
 
I dk if my image about bigger IT companies is correct here
 
I m in the same situation
 
but you are in school right?
 
uni and working full time
 
11:48 AM
really
damn
 
really
hahaha
 
I worked appr 15 hours a week next to my studying period
 
Tim
hello slaves
 
ahaha
hi pleb
 
Tim what is your opinion on this? You live in the same delicious country
 
11:50 AM
lol
@Tim a wild evil RO appears
 
Tim
what opinion
 
I feel that if I switch to a bigger IT company I can simply just do my tasks (working away tickets) without pressure on other subjects
 
DON'T BE WEAK
 
because, as I mentioned, I aimed for the other tasks but I regret that now when it comes to the IT sector
 
Tim
you can terminate your contract but you will have to keep working there for a month or so while they find a replacement, this is specified in the contract. Likewise your employer can terminate the contract but they have to pay you for a while
 
11:56 AM
I wanna stay untill they find replacement either way
because otherwise it's like a knife in someone's back
 
Tim
"I don't want to do anything except be assigned tickets and work on them" this is not really realistic, there will always be other things to do and you don't want to be that guy that doesn't want to do anything. Release process and other stuff is all part of the job
 
TLDR; there is no way out
 
ah great
but when dealing with a bigger company there is a larger buffer for when things might go wrong I suppose
 
don't be scared of failing
it's not your fault they let you go wrong
haha
 
Tim
you can work in a company with 1000 people but still you might be working on a project in a team of 2 for example, and still all the responsibility is on you
 
12:02 PM
as I m in a 150 devs company and I have 4 projects on me head
:)
 
@Tim but I now work in a team of 4 that is responsible for the entire software inside this company
 
maan
chill a bit
 
Tim
yeah but you're a junior, surely you have no responsibilities other than "try to do whatever you can and be eager to learn"
anything goes wrong doesn't matter what, they can't blame you
 
^ this
 
@MwBakker for #1: why do you think it's bad? for #2: of course you can leave / resign whenever you want, this is not the CCP :D
 
12:12 PM
@Tim either I take things too personal or that mindset is not present here
@Mehdi I've never done that before and it feels like betrayal
 
Tim
if it's just you, you need to work on that. If it is them, leave
don't worry about betrayal, they don't care about you so you don't have to care about them either
 
^
this may seem cynical or harsh, but it's the non sugarcoated truth
 
maybe they want him to leave
lol
"let's suffocate him with tasks"
 
@Tim Due to me being autistic I dk if this is a me or them problem
 
I think you should relax for a bit
and wait a few days
 
Tim
12:24 PM
for example if they give you the same responsibilities and expect the same level of contribution from you than from the other people who have been working there for 6 years, it is a them problem
 
ugh
 
@Tim XD
 
12:50 PM
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@Tim not exactly, but they will merge me into these tasks later I suppose
And I just hate php with javascript. Besides python it was my least desired language
 
hows it goin guys
 
Tim
but you're not working with php/js are you?
what up b-stack
 
@Tim I am
and this shit is too fragile for me
 
Tim
1:54 PM
that in itself is a reason to leave
 
its their reason they go to a new framework build on C# and purescript
 
Tim
oh ok
 
An Android app tightly coupled with REST services how do you do the UI test ? The REST service response objects cannot be mocked as there are plenty of JSON objects to parse and use them further.....I am using Espresso for testing but the REST service part is what I am stuck on
 
Tim
move all that logic out of the UI classes
 
Hi
 
2:02 PM
@Tim < this
 
@Tim Something like MVP or MVVM ? The code is too much to re-architecture
 
Tim
it doesn't matter, just move the code elsewhere
 
Ok but how should I re-write again as a MVP or MVVM ?
 
whatever you want
I'd go for MVVM
 
I have no idea of MVP, MVVM should be fine
The code is 3 years old..
 
Tim
2:08 PM
people in 2018 also knew not to put HTTP code in the UI
 
Probably they might have followed MVP at that time
 
Tim
unlikely, anybody who knows to apply an architectural pattern also knows not to put HTTP code in the UI
 
My Scenario is bit different, An activity has a viewpager which has 5 fragments. Each of those fragments contains 5 spinners.

There is a single API that loads around 30 JSON arrays for the Spinners. I call the REST api in activity and when each fragment is created I load the data(i.e JSON array for each Spinner) from the activity by an interface.

Beyond that in a fragment there is a fragment which contains
Country -> State -> City -> District Spinners. Each of them are dependant on the parent and loading them is via a separate API call.
 
Tim
"I call the REST api in activity" don't do this, the scenario is not relevant
 
Where do I call it then ? I can't call them in each fragment repeated API calls won't be fine
 
Tim
2:18 PM
in some class in the data layer
 
30 JSON arrays
man that's a lot
 
@Tim That is ok but even if I put it there I will have to make a call to the API...
@grrigore I highlighted that to the BE team they just don't care
 
feel you bro
 
Tim
yes but not in the UI, and then you can write your UI test, which was the original question
 
Without loading the data there would be only empty spinner values which can't be tested..
All the spinners would be empty
 
Tim
2:20 PM
..
use fake data
 
@Tim Well that's exactly what I am telling I cannot fake 30 JSON arrays too much of code.
 
Tim
then you shall have no tests
or you use the real rest api in the test
 
I think I only have one option..take JSON data from Postman by invoking the API, store as a JSON file and parse that to use it for testing
@Tim Is that possible in a Espresso test ?
 
Tim
yes
 
Android documentation has no reference of a testing of that sort
 
2:24 PM
because it sucks
 
You'll have to play around to understand yourself.
 
Tim
yes
 
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Afternoon Everyone!!!! :D
 
@Tim Only I know I had to go through a lot of issues just to setup testing and run a small test..The documentation didn't help..I was looking to search for testing a fragment and was getting errors, I then stumbled upon a SO answer only that helped to resolve the issue and this wasn't mentioned in the docs at alll...
@grrigore Yes I went through that i uses a MockWebServer which I had discussed around couple of days ago
 
2:28 PM
and what happened?
 
Tim
well now you know for next time, that is how we learn
nobody gets anything right on the first try
 
except @RaghavSood
 
The issue was fixed but not sure if it will cause other problems or not
 
3:11 PM
Hello, Android!
 
My Watchy has arrived
It is excellent
Now I have more computer per unit area of myself
 
congrats man
 
3:29 PM
@RaghavSood looks nice
 
It is very nice
An ESP32 on my wrist
Plus, I just got a LAN cable run to my desktop today
So now I can safely kick everyone else off the WiFi via watch
 
xD
 
@RaghavSood #GucciGang ?
 
I don't understand that reference
 
3:41 PM
I don't understand that video either
 
doesn't matter, you're a new man, a man with swag
 
Tim
swaghav
9
 
nice
 
nice
 
3:57 PM
nice!
 
4:19 PM
nice
 
@Tim I started a solasta campaign over the weekend
 
Word up sports fans
 
sports are dumb
 
True story
 
Tim
@ballBreaker sick, I am close to the end now, but a bit annoyed cause I reached the max level already
 
4:36 PM
Oh no D:
 
@Tim oh wow eh, yea I had a feeling it was going to be short
 
Tim
4:50 PM
it's not too short, I've spent a few dozen hours I think
not counting my first attempt
 
o/
 
Tim
ello then
 
\o
 
looks like you made a new friend Tim
Mr. Little
 
5:16 PM
oh fair fair
 
Tim
I scared him off real good though
 
thanks for filling in while I was on vacation
 
I have a question
Those who have used or are using GNU/Linux, do you think that it has the aptitude to be better in the future?
 
5:34 PM
no because it's already perfect
 
Tim
voting to ban taser for shitting on linux (1 vote needed)
 
+1
 
Tim
voting to ban taser for shitting on linux (2 votes needed)
that's what you mean right
 
Hello
tims RO again?
 
Tim
yes I was mean to some noob and rewarded for it
 
5:41 PM
👏
 
I don't see how it's going to be beneficial to the Linux development if a lot of people start switching over to it, let's say from the Windows. All the proprietary software will be ported to it but they will do exactly in Linux what they do in Windows. How's that going to be different?
It pisses me off knowing that there are tons of distributions each to their own 'goals' that in the bigger picture do the same thing
 
proprietary third party software isn't what makes people think linux is better than windows
theres plenty of proprietary third party software for linux
 
What exactly makes Linux better than Windows? The open-source thing? The 'free' thing? The customizability? The ability to stay updated?
 
Tim
not being windows is a great start
 
it's leaner
 
5:47 PM
imo it's way of doing just about everything is better but that maybe just because im used to it
 
it's great for servers/development the only reason I use Windows at home is for Gaming support and the only reason I use Mac is because I can't develop iOS without one
I would love to just run Linux on everything
 
The desktop environments are not as exactly as mature and polished as Windows. I have used a few of them but out of all of them, I only found KDE to be better but sometimes it just goes buggy
 
Open source is never polished
 
:O
 
For me Linux is like the girl that's really attractive but unfortunately, we just don't match
 
5:50 PM
Tim!!! You are a italic person!!! Congrats!!!!
 
The lack of certain software makes me sad :(
So now I am planning to move to MacOS for good
 
like what software?
 
@W0MP3R only because someone needs to ban noobs and raghav doesn't want to be bothered anymore
 
I think in most cases macOS is better than linux for personal use.
 
xD
 
Tim
5:51 PM
@W0MP3R thanks for 5$ you can be one too :) let me know in private message
 
I'll take $5 to be a RO
 
You get the best out of both worlds
 
@JBis I recently bought a Transcend portable SSD and it's disk locking / encrypting app only supports MacOS or Windows
 
Can I pay you guys in JBisCoin?
 
As a makeshift I run a VM Windows to access it
 
5:53 PM
@Taseer "disk locking"? there are plenty encryption options (almost definitively better than the built in one)
 
@Tim yeah... no thanks x')
 
I am not sure about that, have not looked that far yet
 
JBisCoin is my very own pyramid scheme cryptocurrency
 
Also whenever I try to customize my DE, it just becomes a mess of glitchy effects. Anyways, I will just move to MacOS now
 
Go for it, macOS sucks. Just sucks less than windows.
 
5:57 PM
There's often a common rant that Linux has a piss poor power management but in my experience, it's actually the best. It does the same work with lower temps compared to Windows
By lower I mean by 8-12 celcius
 
mac hardware + software generally has best power management because apple is the only one that can optimize both for each other
 
Tim
is it already possible to create a new file without using the terminal on macOS?
 
I want to go for the M1 Macbook but the 16 GB variant is really unjustifiably expensive
 
you probably don't need 16 GB
what are you going to use it for?
@Tim wdym?
 
Tim
open the finder, go to random folder, create a new file, how do you do it?
 
6:01 PM
like a text file? you can open text edit and save a file
 
Just for the usual stuff, Docker, IDE, and relevant stuff. Maybe some mobile app development in the future
 
Tim
no, I'm already in the folder, I want to create a file here right now
 
Actually I am quite confused if 8 GB is the right one
 
you could likely get away with 8 GB
but if you are running bunch of docker images with IDE and VM 16 will obv be better
 
That's what everyone is suggesting to me. I am kind of confused because currently even without Docker, my usage crosses 8 GB
 
Tim
6:03 PM
it's not possible, and it's the most annoying thing about macOS for me
 
tbh you could easily add that functionality if you need to
 
Tim
why is something so simple not in there
 
because most users don't need to that. If they want to create a blank text file they open text edit and drag the folder from finder to the save dialog (or just find it manually).
how often do you need to do that?
 
Tim
that's very cumbersome
 
The simple answer is because Apple products run on inferior software and is only successful due to marketing and a captive user base
 
Tim
6:07 PM
I need to do it often enough to be bothered by the lack of the option
 
If you are already in the working directory, is it not possible to do something like "gedit/nano yourFile.txt" ?
 
I just touch then open
using the terminal
 
Tim
@JBis this makes no sense because you can create a folder easily
what's the point of creating a folder if you can't put anything in it
 
@Tim why would your average user need to create a blank file and then just leave it there?
they may need to create a blank file it and then open it, but why add another step
 
I was searching for something and came across this gist.github.com/anubiann00b/…
damn that was so long ago
 
6:09 PM
6 years ago you were top dog
 
@Tim how would you do that in windows?
 
now look at what you've become
 
i'm still top dog
just low key top dog
 
Tim
@JBis right click > new file
 
i must have been funnier back then
 
6:10 PM
NotDog
 
;_;
 
Tim
@JBis how do they open it, if they can't create it first?
 

Ahmad was jealous of Raghav's book

Aug 12 '12 at 14:13, 6 minutes total – 8 messages, 2 users, 1 star

Bookmarked Jul 27 '18 at 20:26 by Dave S

 
@Tim i think we both know what each other is saying, point taken
 
Tim
thanks, I don't take your point though
xD
 
6:12 PM
holy shit lmaooo
I remember me and raghav actually had a book deal together after that
@raghav we never finished that ui book did we
damn raghav really wrote about AR in 2012, miles ahead
 
@Tim that sounds annoying af
 
here's the better question, why does backing up a 20GB drive on macOS take 30+GB?
 
I create new files on an explorer level every single day
 
Tim
because a lot of extra memory is needed to do all those "create new file" operations
 
especially excel files and text files
 
6:16 PM
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that would drive me bonkies
 
.DS_Store would like to have a word with you
 
@ballBreaker technically an API does exist for MS to add that ability to macos finder if they wanted to
 
Time to go~~
Cya tomorrow everyone!!!! :D
 
ello
 
6:18 PM
@JBis need a microsoft api to add text files to mac os?
seems donkey brained
 
alright next topic
So Israel got a new PM. Thoughts?
 
Right winger?
 
he's weird. Apparently is socially pretty liberal like he's cool with gays, but also wants to anex like 60% of west bank.
 
lol
how else would he get voted in if he didn't want to settle the rest of palestine
 
lol
 
Tim
6:21 PM
I heard he doesn't mind that you can't create files in the finder. Fucking weirdo he is
 
hehe
 
I am going for camping tomorrow :>
 
You're in Banff Taseer ?
 
No
 
@Tim what a bloody psycho
 
6:27 PM
Picture looks like it
 
It's Komrat Valley in Pakistan
 
yeah that looks like alberta/bc
oh nice, looks gorgeous
 
It's about 12.5 hours drive
Then switch over to jeeps because it's all forest and cars can't do shit there
 
For some reason, I doubt
 
why
 
6:32 PM
@Taseer That's some crazy clear water.
 
Yeah, it's beautiful
This is how camping is done there
 
haha that's awesome
 
Unfortunately, I am only going there for like 2 days. Can't find time to do stuff
 
7:04 PM
thats crazy how similar to canada it looks!
lol graeme thinks pakistan is 100% sand
 
it is, this is just a trick to make graeme think he's in Pakistan
 
that's probably how they got the british empire to leave, they only showed them sand :D
 
lol
 
bahaha
 
7:16 PM
All those previous images were fake this is the real one
 
@Mehdi just stay out of nothern india.. it's really really ugly.. british people would hate it
 
"just sand and heat, nothing else, look at this drawing, people living in the desert smh"
 
lmao
oi mate I shake me 'ead
SHAKE ME 'ED MATE
 
XD
 
after seeing the list of events in the starboard I think raghav gave tim RO to punish him for suggesting that raghav will help
Jun 10 at 13:06, by Tim
we have someone here who wrote a book about AR on android actually, his name is raghav sood. He can help you for sure
I've seen through the veil
 
7:27 PM
but mehdi did it
iirc
 
anyone here who is solid in networking in a LAN?
 
rag for sure
 
rag guided mehdis hand
 
he pulled the strings
 
illuminati confirmed
 
7:28 PM
haha
shit
 
I've worked with WiFi/TCP/Network layer quite a bit from a software context, less so IT
 
I miiiiight be able to assist warren but my knowledge falls off eventually
 
@RaghavSood my Padawan. How are you?
I give it a try, bb :D
My situation:
 
I went halfway through a cisco certificate and then gave up out of sheer survivability
I saw the noose dangling in the future and had to stop myself
 
I have 4 pcs that I need to put into the LAN of a university network. Their admin said to me, he gives me only one IP address and the other PCs I need to connect via an internal network. I have two problems with that:
1. I need to have remote access to all 4 PCs as easy as possible and
2. The 3 "internal" PCs need to communicate with the university network anyway to get updates over the internet and talk with the windows authentication server to keep their windows installation active.
So my question: With NAT (maybe bridged?) I am already past my level of expertise so I am looking for some
 
7:33 PM
ok
bb admit you don't know
 
I probably will create a bit more detailed question in the networking SE community...
 
hmm yeah that's beyond my abilities as well, I would have said that maybe you can create a VLAN for the internal PCs but I'm not sur ehow they would communicate with the other network at that point
 
Back in my old days you could share "internet" to internal network making your windows PC kind of the a gateway for the other ones.
 
yeah you can setup an intranet through a pc
so you have PCs on an intranet and only one pc on the internet
but that's like 1990s LAN architecture and idk if that stuff is still supported/done
 
yea so 1800
but I guess there should be something like hardware
 
7:53 PM
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Q: Internal network inside an internal network

WarrenFaithI have the task to integrate 4 PCs (1 server, 3 workers) into a local network (from a bigger organization). The admin of that network only allows me to integrate the server directly into the network (he will give me an IP for my mac address). The 3 workers and the server should therefore communic...

 
this may help
except you would use ethernet and you may need a switch to get them plugged into the mac properly
 
guys
 
but I could be way off ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
do you know about macro or weighted avg?
 
Tim
8:41 PM
I know about macro plays in hots
 
and I know about weighted avg in school grading
(since it seems the CCP blocked access to google, you could use a Random forest or XGboost models, they take care of this on their own)
 
Tim
classic CCP
 
personally I welcome our new overlords
I've never had anything bad to say or think about china, everyone knows it
 
and I know nothing
what's macro plays?
you know it's bad luck to laugh at stupid people so stop laughing at me
 
Tim
8:58 PM
it's knowing when to soak and take camps etc
vs when to fight
 
this looks like a GME stock lol
oh
 
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