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12:01 AM
@VLAZ I've assumed that there is malware in the document and/or that they gain data from the attempt to access it. At least in my experience, accessing Google spreadsheets/drive files shares more information with the holder of the document/drive than I'm comfortable with. In general, I use a separate browser profile/VPN/proxy to access such links.
 
"At least in my experience, accessing Google spreadsheets/drive files shares more information with the holder of the document/drive than I'm comfortable with." I use Google Drive extremely rarely and only for my stuff, so this information is useful. Thanks.
 
np
@eyllanesc This does not appear to be a debugging question. Thus, the "no MCVE" reason is inapplicable. Only debugging questions require code (actually, a MCVE/MRE, which is usually code, but might be config info for resolving a problem with some programming tool).
 
@Makyen The OP talks about a code that he has but it seems that it does not work as expected so to understand the problem I think I need an MRE
 
12:44 AM
Official policy is that we decline deletion requests from question authors. Please see How does deleting work? What can cause a post to be deleted, and what does that actually mean? What are the criteria for deletion? If you feel that the question and answers should be deleted independent of the question author's request, then you can post a new request with that reason.
 
1:11 AM
@eyllanesc The way I read the question, it's asking about new functionality that the user wants to add to their existing code. Yes, if the user was to add some code it would significantly help to narrow and clarify the question, but code is not required and the MCVE reason is not applicable to "how to" questions.
 
1:29 AM
@Makyen We simply have 2 different views of the question. In the end, my request may be incorrect, it will be the task of each user to analyze whether the post should be closed or not for the reason that I indicate or for another.
 
 
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@tripleee is that the link you intended to post? it looks like you answered that a while back
 
4:36 AM
^ Invalid request on the room. Must be binned.
 
5:20 AM
Does this question need focus?
 
5:36 AM
@RyanM apologies, didn't scroll it down far enough to see that (-:
@bad_coder certainly at least needs details or clarity (indentation problems)
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, requestor is involved
 
6:06 AM
How to mark this of answer. NAA or not NAA?
 
@Droid I have left a comment. I won't mark it as NAA just yet.
 
6:27 AM
@Droid thats a spam seed. flag
 
@SurajRao Yes, question and answer both. but I marked the answer as spam
 
@Droid no use of commenting under such posts. They are most probably a bot.
 
 
8:05 AM
This SD reported answer is spam, isn't it?
 
@JeanneDark yes, very much
 
Thanks!
 
8:20 AM
There are 3 repeating answers from the same user in those SD reports. This, this and this
 
8:31 AM
@Tomerikoo That's probably better discussed in charcoal chat room, I believe (since we don't discuss users in SOCVR).
 
@JeanneDark Oh no I don't care about the user. More in the way of deleting the duplications
(See my cv-pls above - related)
 
@Tomerikoo I don't know what's going on there, but the "duplicate" answer doesn't solve the problem in the target question.
 
@Braiam yeah, that was my idea as well. More like: Let's see where I have a vaguely looking related question so I can dump my answer there.
@Tomerikoo by now it is worth a mod flag.
 
Yeah already did. @Braiam not sure I understand. Two of the questions have the same accepted answer...
 
@Tomerikoo What? One of them has no accepted answer. What are you reading?
 
8:42 AM
Ok that's the third... The other two have the same accepted answer
 
AFAIK, the message I linked is about two questions, not three
@Tomerikoo I'm not talking about this.
 
Yep, just realized.... I got confused there
 
9:03 AM
Is this off-topic?
 
looks rather opinion-based
 
@Droid That is opinion based.
 
Thanks Jeanne Dark and Braiam
 
9:28 AM
this is an answer?
 
definitely not
 
@JeanneDark thanks Jeanne
 
 
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11:36 AM
 
How come the close notices on questions closed as suitable on ServerFault or SuperUser doesn't actually link to those sites?
 
It does.
 
@Braiam The close notice here doesn't even mention the existence of ServerFault
 
OH, so they fixed that! Cool.
Now it's like it should be, without linking external sites.
Now if they merge both closer reasons and just say "this is not programming", that would be great.
 
Why? Shouldn't it link to the appropriate site?
 
12:01 PM
Morning
 
@Tomerikoo Most network questions are not appropriated for SF. SF is for professional system administrators.
Also, there isn't an appropriated site for every off topic question and the reason why we close them isn't because there's a "more appropriated site" on the network, but because is off topic here
 
@Braiam Got it thanks! Makes sense...
 
I saw someone post a question titled "Hey can you make a c++ program using arrays for me?" (now deleted). It was like watching injured Bambi fall into a shark pond.
 
12:44 PM
@JeanneDark Did the sharks have laser beams strapped to their head so they could get a warm meal?
 
It wasn't that bad until tagged and
@NathanOliver I always thought Bambi was warm blooded?
 
1:06 PM
@Braiam SF is for "managing information technology systems in a business environment", nothing in there about being professional :-P
 
but their close reasons do spell that out
 
@tripleee I'm just quoting the tour and help page; I'm not familiar with SF's close reasons text in particular
since I have very little rep there anyway
 
1:24 PM
@TylerH So they changed it.. it said "is for system administrators and desktop support professionals, people who manage or maintain computers in a professional capacity"
 
1:38 PM
@Dharman horrible question, so delete worthy, but I think it's clear if you just swap in a question mark for the period in the last sentence or two
I don't know why OP is asking what they are asking, since they just described what it is it should do
 
2:09 PM
Apparently, part of this was redesigning the front page. There are no longer less than three developers. But I'm not sure if the change is for the better or worse.
 
@VLAZ Stack Overflow no longer loves us
 
@Dharman </3
 
@Dharman There are now >3 people who code
 
Or exactly 3. We don't know.
 
@EvanCarroll You are involved in it since you are the question's author
 
2:28 PM
@TylerH @EvanCarroll We do not allow cv-pls or reopen-pls requests on posts where the requester is "involved". This includes being an answerer and especially being the asker. In this case you are both.
 
> reopened by Rene O_o
 
3:04 PM
@TylerH Ah, my bad. I think it should be like EZ-Pass where you get like 1 warning every year on that violation. ;)
A little wiggle room.
 
@EvanCarroll sure thing. That was your warning :-)
Next time we will send attack squirrels
 
Around these parts, they'd be in the Top 0.30% of Moderators this Quarter
 
3:21 PM
@TylerH Could that question just be edited to "what is the difference between all : unset and normalize?"? It's the question that the answer answers, and it wouldn't be POB then.
 
@cigien that's not quite what they answer; that question would be too broad because there would be a lot of differences
 
Ah, I see. Thanks.
 
3:39 PM
 
Strange, I edited a post but I didn't change the word "between" stackoverflow.com/posts/66676113/revisions and it is marked in green
 
@Dharman possibly your edit merged one from the OP?
 
@Dharman Strange. But the markdown view confirms that you didn't change it.
 
Maybe invisible characters
 
I looked, but couldn't see any! :)
 
3:45 PM
This answer is now acceptable?
 
@Droid Looks fine to me.
 
@Dharman this is what I see here i.stack.imgur.com/Y443J.png
@NathanOliver thnaks
 
@Droid Same here. I am going to blame it on invisible characters.
 
4:09 PM
@VLAZ for now...
 
@TylerH define FOREVER = NOW
 
4:29 PM
@rene Feel like making another rollback?
 
nope
 
How many does it take to lock it???
 
3, IIRC. (Well, for an auto mod-flag. No auto-lock.)
 
only a mod can lock it
 
5:55 PM
Needs a edit
Also this
 
@Droid both edited
 
@Droid Aren't you able of editing?
 
6:18 PM
@Droid we're not a big fan of bringing into the room. You're free to ask for advice if an edit is needed and/or if an edit is substantial enough to get approved in the review queue. Just posting links here for us to do the work doesn't feel right at the moment. What is your motivation to post these kind of requests?
 
7:05 PM
@Braiam then it goes to edit queue. I don't have enough rep to edit without queue
@rene Is there any room to do that job?
 
You can suggest edits, right? Those go in the queue
the queue is the "room"
 
@Droid And is a problem, why?
The queue exist precisely for that reason. So that users can suggest edits.
 
7:21 PM
Sometimes the queue is full, so you can't submit your edit, which is the worst user interaction I've ever had.
 
That is a fair reason to post a link here but it helps if that reasonsis included, at a minimum, in the request in this room
 
@code11 not sometimes actually, most times the queue is full
 
7:43 PM
what's the limit on the suggested edit queue?
 
500
it is around that number atm
 
that seems oddly low
 
@TylerH it was 200
 
well
at least they're slow in the right direction...
oh thank goodness this user is getting terminated from our environment.
His last name was samples
Threw me every. single. time. I was working on some project and saw his name in db employee record results
"Wait, who put this test entry in here?" "Oh, that's an actual person"
 
7:55 PM
@TylerH lol
 
@TylerH Hey, that was me :(
BTW, don't you keep records of previous employees?
 
@Braiam in our HRIS sure but not in application databases which usually only track/create records that are submitted/modified as part of that application's process cycle
 
I'm still in awe that you created your own application to manage your employee database.
We are 800 strong and use excel *ducks*
 
jps
8:29 PM
Hi, I just noticed a new tag and already 9 questions of which some are dealing with the command line usage of this tool for . E.g stackoverflow.com/questions/66680269/… For me it looks quite off-topic. Thoughts?
 
@Braiam well we didn't create our own, we use ADP :-P
but yeah we could do that I suppose if we wanted to.
before ADP we used Kronos
those HRIS applications are our "source of truth"
so we have AD and O365 sync against them
we get data dumps to additional SQL tables like 5 times a day though from ADP so that we can play around with data and just have copies for whatever/backup as well
 
@jps Yeah, it's off topic for me. Voted to close as off topic, belongs on SU
 
@jps That new tag appears to have been added to 9 questions by one user, around one hour ago. The only change to those I checked is adding the tag.
 
Apparently GMIC has a command line interface
does that make it programmy enough
 
jps
yes, the OP of the now closed question added it. The tag itself seems ok, some questions are related to python programming, but his own question was really OT
@TylerH then in the good old DOS days everyone was a programmer, as soon as he added a parameter to a command ;)
dir -?
 
8:49 PM
@TylerH Wut? Why so frequently updated employee database? I expect at most weekly, unless you are literally giant where changes of personnel happen any day/hour.
 
@Braiam users could be onboarded at any time
and we want to make sure we can reasonably have 100% accurate data for when we're working on stuff
it's incredibly cheap resource-wise so why not
@jps well yeah when you use CLI you are programming :-)
 
jps
@TylerH yeah :)
it seems someone got a bit upset about me closing his question
 
@TylerH Nah, when you use the cli you are hacking, like in the matrix
 
jps
just got 3 DVs in a row
anyone else just got downvoted?
 
@Braiam Could I ask you to add at least one reason to the requests? There are several close reasons that simply don't apply here, such as duplicate.
 
8:58 PM
@cigien Actually, several close reasons apply: unclear, mcve are just the most obvious one.
I just hope that someone somewhere really introduce a close reason called "read the error message..." we shouldn't read it for them.
 
@Braiam Right, I'm just asking that you add at least one of them.
 
jps
@Braiam rtfem
@AdrianHHH did you also get downvotes in the last few minutes?
 
Anyways, we failed. Someone already answered :(
 
@jps Yes, on 3 questions, all done 9 minutes ago.
 
jps
@AdrianHHH for me on 3 answers
quite obvious revenge voting
@NathanOliver did you get any DVs?
 
9:05 PM
Bah, don't think about it @jps. Just let the system do it's thing.
 
jps
I'm relaxed, I'm just curios. Some people take it personally when you tell them the question is OT
 
@jps Nope.
 
@code11 I've done some query-ing data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/… and indeed the queue seems rather full lately /cc @Droid so I understand the struggle that results from that.
 
I don't believe that's a productive line of thought. You will not get an answer.
 
9:53 PM
well I just wasted 2 hours... Spotify's web player crashes my laptop's external monitors while at work, but not while at home.
Apparently it's a major known issue, so naturally Spotify has marked the issue WontFix.
 
I recently installed the Spotify app on my home PC. I use the web player at my work desktop. Today I decided to listen to some music on home PC, so I pressed play and...nothing. I went around testing if my audio setup is OK and so on until I found out that the player that is installed on my home PC decided to just play music on my work desktop.
 
@VLAZ lol yeah that's annoying
it should be set to the right machine almost always, maybe you opened the menu option and accidentally clicked the other machine at some point
 
As far as I know, I didn't. But who knows, I might have misclicked. I don't actually use Spotify a lot at home. That was probably my second time I used the desktop app.
 
Hmm
 
It's also slightly annoying that in the app, the artists I've favourited are in alphabetical order. In the web player, they are in the order I've added them in.
 
10:01 PM
yeah it probably saw that you always play on the work computer so it thought "this is the user's default play location"
I have rarely used the web player, but our security team is bi--complaining about users who have the app installed as it's "unapproved software"
normally I WFH lately so I may not have noticed if it was a problem there since I just came in this afternoon to work
 
Yeah, I try to avoid installing software that's not strictly related to work at my work desktop. Less headaches with IT that way. That's why I use the web player.
 
I am happy to use the web player as well
so long as it doesn't crash my monitors...
I am currently thinking it is something to do with DRM, DisplayPort, hardware acceleration, or some combination of the three
 
Most likely.
 
Even loading the webpage was enough to turn off my monitors
unfortunately this laptop has an annoying dell thunderbolt dock with only DP ports so I am likely stuck with some kind of DRM
 
The DRM does get in the way. I tend to leave my work desktop running and just lock it. When I come back the next morning, the music cannot start (either at all or at least the current track) because of the DRM. Seems whatever session I got that allowed me to listen to music expired and I get a bunch of errors in the console.
Also, it resets the playlist some times.
Haven't had display issues because of it that I know of but I've had a couple of weird display things that now I think might have been related.
 
10:09 PM
Weird
I've never had issues with the desktop app... not sure why the browser version would have htis issue
You have a desktop or a laptop at work?
and what kind of cables do you have connecting your monitors to your computer?
 
Uh both. I use the desktop most of the time.
 
The issue as I've seen online appears to be specific to "external monitors" aka laptops, and they're probably all hooked up thru HDMI or DisplayPort rather than VGA/DVI
 
HDMI x 2 for cables
 
11:06 PM
 
Isn't spotify desktop just chrome?
 
@Braiam You mean Chromium? Maybe; I don't know if it runs on Electron
seems like it quora.com/…
 
Yeah, it starts spotify with type=zygote,gpu-process and --no-sandbox. Those are definitively chrom*
 
yeah, chromium embedded framework
Though the web player is clearly different in a lot of ways from the desktop app
especially considering I am using Firefox
which does not rely on Chromium
 

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