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8:35 AM
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9:10 AM
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so my son had his 3rd bday yesterday and today he killed half of the sweets I got for my birthday that was stored in a cupboard... so sweet this little fucker
 
Tim
9:37 AM
cheeky little bastard
 
9:49 AM
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10:14 AM
classic 3 yo kid
 
hello good people
 
hello
 
didn't really mean to include you in that bucket, but ok
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-.-
damn right, i'm not good. i'm great
 
:D
 
10:30 AM
sup?
 
Tim
good you?
 
good
working
 
good, just rewrote a date generating function and it took me a bit more time than I'm willing to admit :D
 
you're into data science?
 
a bit, but more focus on data engineering and ml
 
10:41 AM
@Mehdi made my day!
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Hmm. Actually, nothing interesting was said on this day last year.
 
 
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12:04 PM
o/
 
12:28 PM
Anyone ever do the encryption export "annual self-classification report" for an iOS app?
Because I just did, and I'm pretty sure the government really doesn't want you to submit it correctly. Like if I was intentionally designing something to maximize the mistakes users make, I would build their website exactly the way it is.
Also, there is no way that website is legal. It isn't even remotely accessible. They even put the giant glob of text that explains how to submit the report inside an image with no "alt" text.
--End Rant--
 
Wait, you really thought the gov is there for the citizen? To help them? To make their life easy?
 
No... I'm talking about a completely useless report that iOS devs are required to submit. The concept is fundamentally the opposite.
I'm saying that I would bet somewhere around 50% of the reports they receive are done incorrectly in some way.
And its a federal website, so by law it is required to meet accessibility standards.
Actually 50% might be optimistic. I suppose it depends how many companies pay a lawyer to do it for them.
 
1:29 PM
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2:20 PM
@Mehdi what about sentiment analysis?
 
did your girlfriend left you ?
 
 
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3:41 PM
@twiz thats government websites for you
 
4:14 PM
@grrigore no, never done any
 
4:37 PM
heyo
@MwBakker lmao I remember when you posted this video
im trying to think of new snacks I can get when I go grocery shopping
 
cookies
biscuits
frozen cakes
 
I want something healthy but I'm out of ideas
 
frozen pizza
ah that s sad
water?
 
lately I've been having whole grain bagels with creamcheese which are tasty
or dark chocolate almonds
and sometimes peanuts
 
that sounds sad
 
4:42 PM
I love it
I'll eat shitty snacks too sometimes but not as often
maybe I'll get some stuff so I can bake my own cookies :o
 
yes
avocado pudding is great
 
if I get into baking I might die
avocado pudding :thinking:
 
like, guacamole?
huh interesting
 
like banana and avocado iirc
 
4:44 PM
interesting
 
you're welcome my friend
 
maybe I'll get some dried meats as well to snack on
like some proscuitto or sometihng
I'm all about the high protein, high fat, low carb shit
but im also about that lazy shit
 
haha
 
@grrigore fyi, when a north american tells you "interesting", it's a nice way to say that what you're saying is garbage
 
lmfao
 
4:46 PM
that aint true
bb is canadian
 
nah I was genuinely finding that interesting
 
not north american lol
 
never heard of avocado + chocolate pudding lmao
hmm
 
some girls might like that
wink wink
this one
 
maybe I'll get some cheese and meats, and some more bagels ... and some creamcheese, and maybe some DIY cookies
and some bell peppers and like hummous or somethin
 
4:50 PM
ugh
 
lmao
you really want me to make avocado pudding eh
 
haha when you feel like it
 
haha
 
but you should try it's great
and i guess it s not that shitty
 
if it makes you feel better ill probably go to the grocery store and then forget everything I want to get and I'll just get the same shit I always get
 
4:52 PM
hey y'all o/
 
yo jibs
@Mehdi I got in an internet fight yesterday when I said that attack on titan was abad anime
thought you'd appreciate that
apparently weebs on reddit love that show
 
hahaha
I can honestly understand people not liking the first [0.5, 2] seasons, but the 3rd one is 🔥
 
haha third is when I quit
 
seriously? you didn't watch the Levi vs beast titan fight?
 
that's shit
 
4:57 PM
not sure, I might have, whcih one is beast?
 
shit couldn't get shitter
 
oh, yeah i did watch that
I quit shortly after
too much scream crying
I remember I put on an episode and went to the bathroom and I never heard more annoying sounds coming from my living room in my life, so I went back and turned it off for good lmao
 
ok guys
i m off
have a good snack bb
 
cya grrig!
 
bye o/
 
5:04 PM
eeeyooo
 
eyyooo
 
What's up, B?
 
not much man! just starting work / just going to leave for the next 30-40 mins to go get groceries xD
 
How many groceries you buy XD
 
enough to make at least one african village envious
 
5:06 PM
heuheu
 
hehe
oki brb in about 45
 
I got to see M3 Lee in real life for the first time
omg
Also M3 Stuart
 
Tim
who
 
M3 Stuart
Got 300+ images, don't know how to share them
 
5:34 PM
o/
 
o/
 
@JouanH.Sulaiman it's fine to ping me if I'm not around, I get the message(s) when I get back to the chat. Glad it got you farther!
 
5:51 PM
My 12 monitors should be here today
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GPUs showed up yesterday
Soon, I shall be able to see more
 
How many monitors do you have now in total?
 
What are you doing that you need that many?
 
Probably his hobby
 
12 monitors
He s got more than the average company
 
Having more monitors is not going to make you a good dev, Raghav
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6:04 PM
Current set up is 2 monitors + laptop display
New set up will be 6 monitors and a desktop
Multiply everything by 2 for a home and a work desk
@Taseer I don't need to be a good dev, just a productive one
 
6:24 PM
@CarlAnderson will lay them out as 3x2, top 3 for charts/logs/monitoring, bottom three for the same things I use my current displays for
 
what sort of things are you charting/logging/monitoring that you need them constantly visible?
 
Trading/wallet systems, metrics, overall system stuff - we're hiring a 24x7 team to take over this so I don't have to stare at it all day, but I'm sure I can find other stuff to take its place
I'll probably leave some of them up anyways, spotting problems early is a huge time saver
 
7:04 PM
someone in my matlab chat posted an ancient @code-apprentice joke
in Lounge<C++>, Jun 18 '17 at 7:28, by Code-Apprentice
Late one night, a cop sees a man crouched on the ground beneath a street lamp clearly looking for something. The officer walks over to offer help. "What are you looking for?" he asks. "My keys," the gentleman replies. "Where did you drop them?" "Over there," gesturing into the shadows. Confused, the officer asks, "So why are you not looking over there?" "The light is better here."
 
7:35 PM
@RaghavSood can't most monitoring be automated? like it'll alert you under some conditions?
 
probably
he just likes to feel like he's neo in the matrix
 
he seems more like an agent
 
hahahahaha
lmao fair and very true
 
8:10 PM
@ballBreaker wow, that's a throw back. I don't even remember posting that.
IIRC, it was in reference to someone asking a non-C++ question in the lounge
 
hahah
andras who posted it in matlab posted it with 0 context as well lmao
no idea what had him searching the archives for that one
ahhh nevermind it was a similar scenario, someone asking a non-matlab question in the matlab
that's funny that you made such an impression on him that he remembered that joke 3.5 years later
 
I'm gonna apply for an internship at facebook. Wish me luck y'all.
It's specifically application security so I think it'll be perfect if I get it
 
ew facebook lol, goodluck
 
8:26 PM
i'm optimistic lol, thanks
 
@ballBreaker andras deak?
why yes it is...such is the nature of SO chat, I guess. I know him from the Python room. Not surprised that he is also in the Matlab room, but had no idea that he frequents the Lounge.
 
@Code-Apprentice yep!
yeah that makes sense!
 
Funny how that's who I thought of when you said "andras". Although, I'm sure that there are other andrases on SO.
 
hahah yeah that is pretty funny, he's been on here for ages so I'm not toooo surprised
I see him everywhere
 
huh...must have a lot more free time than I do
I'm barely in SO chat any more these days.
maybe I'll have more time for it, though.
 
8:34 PM
aha I feel like python users tend to cross-platform on this site quite a bit xD
yeah that's fair! recent job switch or something?
 
yes, I'm starting a new job next monday. Moving this week
 
ohhh right, I remember you mentioning that last week or so!
 
and by "this week" I mean Saturday. Slowly packing this week.
 
You found a place then, or going to be in a hotel for the interim?
 
I'll be Android adjacent, but not directly working on the app, I think
my position is as a python backend dev.
nope, no luck yet. But I haven't had time to look really. I'll do more of that this week.
 
8:36 PM
oh nice! that should be pretty cool
I much prefer backend personally
 
in between packing and cleaning
 
ahh yeah, moving is such a hassle, I don't blame you
 
there's part of me that wants to do some android stuff, but yah, I'm with you. Backend is my bread and butter.
the part of client side (whether some JS framework or Android) that I enjoy is defining how data moves around...like shapes of data structures and stuff like that
 
Yeah same here, I much prefer to deal with abstract concepts/data than to build a UI to interact with it
But I totally feel you
I've almost always been full stack, so I would miss some of it for sure
 
If I have a designer specifying a pixel-perfect UI, then I can probably enjoy that...but not as much as the underlying logic and data pushing.
talking about which...I've dabbled a little with numpy and scipy for calculations. I'd love to get into more of that.
 
8:40 PM
Yeah I'm with you on that
 
for example, one of my previous projects had a linear regression feature and then plotted it. That kind of stuff is fun...and I found a google JS library to take care of the plotting.
 
That's more of a job for an artist than a software dev, although I have found enjoyment in doing it
@Code-Apprentice oh nice man! Data science is really interesting stuff
 
right, UI design is definitely an artform
I mean this was really, really, really basic data science. Probably basic enough that a real data scientist wouldn't call it "data science"
 
hahahah yeah that's fair
 
but yah...I'd love to do more of that kind of thing
 
8:42 PM
Sounds like you might be heading in the right direction! I mean even if you don't do it for work a python backend would be the perfect place to kick off that kind of learning
 
yah, python and django are fun to work with.
I've been doing a lot of django over the last 3 years...and very heavily over the last year.
 
Oh nice! I've never worked with it before
I've barely used python as well, but I know enough about it
Was using matlab pretty heavily in uni and for about a year after, hence why I was in that matlab room with andras
but yeah, never got into python much other than to make myself a script for moving my mouse around my computer to fool peopl einto thinking im working
if they look at my microsoft teams status lol
I wouldn't mind screwing around with some neural network stuff in python, but i also dont really have energy to code as a hobby
 
@JBis It really is remarkable, isn't it. Like they somehow manage to make it worse than the bare minimum. lol
 
9:03 PM
@twiz and I'm sure they are paying double then what they should be
 
9:24 PM
Riots going on in my country :(
 
I saw that
pretty stupid too
why riot over a curfew, so dumb
 
10:03 PM
They don't riot over curfew
The group doing this is the representation of the people that cost our country the most money, and get the most destruction/fraud from
 
@MwBakker amateurs
 
ohh I see what you mean
 
Its not about skincolor, religion or anything cause everything is involved: it's a certain type of behaviour we call "tokkienisme"
 
yeah I'm not saying they're really rioting for the curfew, but the protests started because of the curfew right?
 
10:05 PM
@JBis Double? I would imagine more like 10x at least.
 
They started it cause the scum had another reason to rebel about
 
I mean rioters are going to riot
 
I should start a rioting club at my school. Every month we pick a new topic to riot about.
 
protest for more violence from your police
that might be a good one to induce a riot
 
just a bunch of masochists
 
10:07 PM
@MwBakker yeah the shit disturbers
if I wasn't so lazy I'd probably be a person who rioted
but that would mean I would have to protest, which means I would have to leave my house
 
"Free the crabs!"
 
which means I would need to put pants on
etc
 
"Down with rubber bands!"
 
hahaha
 
cya all o/
 
10:10 PM
I would totally join a riot demanding to free all the lobsters.
 
"my fellow brothers and sisters. This is a fight. this is a fight for our lives! We are being boiled alive. I can hear the screams out of our bretherin dying by the thousands at night in my dreams. These rubber bands are another threat from the government to our very existence!!"
silence because lobsters don't have lungs
 
Haha
Well all jokes aside, I'm very pissed off. They even managed to storm the entrance of a hospital last night
 
The best part is that people are so stupid, I bet the 24 hour news channels would bring in lobster experts to discuss the importance of the topic.
 
@twiz lmao guaranteed
 
The police are outnumbered, they get to action a while after demolishion
I would heavily support these rioters to be shot, lethal
 
10:13 PM
@MwBakker damn dude that sounds crazy.. I've been seeing the protests in Russia and at least they have some reason to be protesting. Sucks you have countrymen who are being so silly right now
I was going to send you a video earlier and ask "is this a friend of yours?" , so i'm glad I didn't
 
Haha what video
 
Well... my government was nearly overthrown by a bunch of people who were too stupid to realize that attempting to overthrow the government was illegal, so...
 
Im still in for dark humor, always
 
its one of some black guy doing obscene gestures at police while a second police van sneaks up behind him and they all unload and then beat the shit out of the guy and carry him away
it's pretty great, lemme see if I can find
 
@twiz at least they had to the guts to actually shoot and kill as a warning to the rioters with the message "don't be stupid"
 
10:15 PM
@MwBakker That guy was literally the last line of defense.
 
@ballBreaker lol I have just seen this vid per groupchat
 
as far as I understand.
 
@ballBreaker I don't know what the guy did but that did seem a bit exegarrated cause I didnt see him carry a weapon or conduct violence. The video is pretty funny though
 
@MwBakker So they just hate everything that's not them?
 
No they hate participating in a hard working society where actions have consequences and where you care for one and another
If their actions do get consequences they scream the loudest and make the biggest mess, we even had a program about it called "probleemwijken"
 
10:19 PM
@MwBakker hahah yeah I think he was carrying a brick but yeah, it was a little excessive lmao but funny
 
It was a report about villges stuffed with misbehaving people on welfare and how their days look like. It's like watching a circus, but a very costly one
@ballBreaker if it worked as a decent warning to others with bricks in their hands im all in for it
 
does probleemwijken translate to bottom feeders
lol
 
I better switch subject cause this seems to look like a rant again
 
I feel like you'd hate the show trailer park boys
its basically the kind of person you're describing
 
And I promised not to do those here anylonger
 
10:24 PM
@ballBreaker Hey, they grow and sell drugs. Technically that IS productive.
 
hahhaa its okay
@twiz lool fair
 
@ballBreaker perhaps, I don't know
 
it humanizes those kinds of people anyway
I'm not too bothered by that kind of stuff though
I think once you assume that 50% of all people are retarded and not worth worrying about, your life improves pretty nicely
just compartmentalize your problems away bro
 
@ballBreaker The scary thing is that they aren't stupid in the normals sense. It's not that their brains are bad at doing math or something. It's cultural stupidity, which means even the smartest people are susceptible to that form of stupidity.
 
yeah for sure it's definitely not a matter of just simple IQ test and boom
I've met some smart people who are pretty much useless human beings
 
10:32 PM
@ballBreaker I do not care about someone's whereabouts or what he/she does all day, just do not become a burden for society. For instance if someone never wants to work and do drugs all day it's fine just don't expdect anybody to pay for that
 
after wondering about how to solve these kinds of issues myself I think I concluded it's better not to try to change it at all and just to accept that there's always going to be: stupid people, selfish people, corrupt people, freeloaders, snakes, etc etc. IDK, you cant really get mad that people are a burden on society because they are always going to be those people, forever, always
I mean, you CAN be mad, but it's kind of pointless and misdirected
Unless you want to advocate for genocide of these people
which at that point you're looking at a whole world domination plot
 
I know, I just think that being collectively mad things could be straighted out. Its a small hope
 
I think maybe you could try to inflict positive change in a small area and be happy with that
or as big of an area as you want really
If it makes you upset to see it on an emotional level and you want to guide that anger somewhere
and if you're unable to just let it go
 
I guided it right into the Wreckfest game, love that stuff so much
 
hahahah
@MwBakker haha yeah that's actually fair too, I think I lost my sense of hope somewhere along the way
 
10:37 PM
Punkrock and car slamming, it's so simple yet so good
@ballBreaker :(
 
hahah :D
I've become quite pessimistic about humanities future tbh
but I see some rays of sunshine here and there
 
@ballBreaker absolutely right here btw, I think in nature every mammal has to deal with such
 
yeah definitely
 
@ballBreaker I think the rational will have the future
I am not sure if I am part of the rational ones, but then again if I die I had a good laugh
 
hahah yeah that's a little too optimistic for me
democracy's biggest failing is the weak minded and stupid, and they are never going away unless you start killing them
at which point you're living in some dystopia
not to say the majority of people aren't decent, but I think some systems need to get worked out first in some particular countries
before I'll have much hope for things going forward lol
 
10:44 PM
@MwBakker I think it's worth recognizing that people are the way they are for a reason. They didn't make themselves the way they are, including their inability/unwillingness to change.
 
True, there are multiple endings/sequals to the story. We know about Rome
@twiz then who or what did? Parents?
I know a great song about that btw
 
@MwBakker Whatever they were born with, and literally everything that has happened to them in their lives.
 
@twiz possibly, but it's never an excuse to just take and take while returning nothing but destruction to others
 
Basically the same thing as what I said about smart people being stupid. Everyone is basically the same. All of us could have just as easily become the people we hate.
 
haha yeah, I have some demons in me that want me to just take from everyone and give nothing back and go riot
 
10:49 PM
Really? You?
I thought the rebillion part in you would just be buying a motorcycle and head for horizon
 
@MwBakker That's me. lol
It's pretty crazy how people naturally fall into a mob mentality. Especially in literal mobs.
 
I have been in these mobs, it was for training the riot police
 
Did you become a stupid smart person? lol
 
One time we had to practise charges at an empty prison, they said there were no rules thus everything was allowed. This also included us getting beat up with no mercy
@twiz the stupid. They said everything was allowed so at one charge I took off all my clothes and stood naked for a few seconds in front of them
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For a few seconds they had no answer, for a few seconds I beat them. Then the beating on me continued
 
I'm like a highwayman at heart man, cheat and steal my way onward lol
not actually, but there's that side in there just deep down
 
10:55 PM
hahaha good job
 
hahahahah
I'm starring that because out of context it's hilarious and inside context it's still hilarious
 
The instructor called our group right after "we added a rule"
 
@ballBreaker I think that sums it up really. Fundamentally everyone is just trying to fulfill their basic needs, but everyone has learned a different way to accomplish that.
 
@twiz but one can accomplish much more in a group, thus one helping out another and reach a goal together
 
for sure
 
10:58 PM
Im thankful everyday to be born in a western country that functions well
 
I just need to make sure I don't end up homeless otherwise you guys will see reports of a lobster mugging people
 
And ofc it pisses me off to see those having no recognition in that
@ballBreaker you will always have a home here, nederbro
 
some people also don't know how to vent their frustrations in a positive manner
 
I mean... could you even be mad if a lobster mugged you?
 
@ballBreaker I am one of those more often than I am willing to admit
 
11:00 PM
give me all your money
also ignore the man holding me
 
Hahaha
 
If I saw that, I would be laughing too hard to stop anyone from taking my wallet.
 
@MwBakker well maybe some of those people out there are people like you but they're just mad and letting out their frustrations with things haha idk
@twiz yeah I'd just give them my money for the show
 
If you convince @MwBakker to carry you around naked, you could conquer the world.
 
hahahahahahaha
wow I was trying to find a clip of a scene that fits that perfectly, but the whole movie is on youtube so im in luck
 
11:06 PM
I'm mildly terrified that such a clip even exists
 
@ballBreaker nah it's braindamage to actually decide and act upon attacking innocent people and/or their stuff
 
have you ever seen "Perfume: The Story of a Murderer" ?
I love this movie so much, this clip is going to spoil the ending though
 
@twiz untill riot police show up, then it's just a couple of seconds
@ballBreaker nope
 
@MwBakker That's where lobster-knife comes in.
 
click the link so u get timestamp
also its nsfw if u keep watching it all the way through, but the bit there, some context: this guy discovers a perfume that makes him smell so good people just love him no matter what (he made the perfume out of hot girls and was being ordered to be executed)
so imagine that scene but mwb naked holding me
haha that last sentence becomes a lot funnier if you know what happens later in the scene
honestly I'd recommend just watching the full movie if you ever have time, it's one of my favourites
also gunna go make dinner, goodnight !!
 
11:15 PM
@ballBreaker I know what you mean. I've been a hobbiest programmer in the past, but lately I don't have much motivation to come home and code when I've been coding all day.
 
@ballBreaker Well... that's... interesting... lol
 
@ballBreaker I'd rather not, but I get the point
@ballBreaker good night, have a nice meal
 

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