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Tim
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10:49 AM
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Nov 24 '19 at 4:03, by Raghav Sood
Your computer is secretly going slower so that you leave it alone for longer
 
11:32 AM
o/
 
12:19 PM
Greetings, person-who-must-have-tried-NixOS-by-now
Also, I'm now a maintainer for NixOS :D
I give them labour in exchange for nothing
 
1:02 PM
you are a maintainer of the core or the maintainer of some plugins and packages?
 
1:22 PM
the nixpkgs repo and a handful of smaller ones, one of a thousand or so people with commit access
Not particularly special :D
 
indeed. "nix" is the German word for "nothing"
 
The guy who started it is Dutch, so perhaps @Tim has some insights
 
1:35 PM
@RaghavSood still pretty impressive, is there some sort of vetting process before being accepted?
 
Generally just a matter of being active and not making terrible PRs/giving unjustified bad reviews to other PRs
I mainly asked for commit access to speed up and improve our coverage of blockchain packages, only a couple of other people were working on that area right now
Most maintainers focus on a language/application group, although you can work on stuff outside that as well
That's why there's 1k+ - you'll have a few for python, a few for node, a few for go, a few for compilers, a few for blockchain stuff, a few for linux subsystems, etc.
 
ah okay, so it's basically: if you want your field to be supported better, contribute :D
 
Pretty much - we already end up maintaining in house versions of many things, might as well upstream them
 
Ribbit
 
1:54 PM
Nice, not that I envy you and your company but I envy you a bit XD
 
Always good to give back to projects you actively use
 
I totally agree
 
Plus, having commit access means that in the event of actual CVEs, we can move faster, rather than have to temporarily overlay a patch locally
Less work, better for other people using the software too
 
and less maintenance locally
since you're not too far from the main code base
 
Yup - much easier to keep things in sync
Plus, now I can totally write it off as a work expense if I need a build farm
I mean, I could earlier too, but now I'll feel better about it :D
(this could also have been solved via rmmod feelings)
 
2:25 PM
@RaghavSood do you actually need one to compile the kernel? wouldn't your laptop suffice?
 
Sometimes large changes can trigger thousands of packages rebuilding
I probably will run a "farm" of 3-5 servers as our usage of Nix grows
Right now, I have just one server for building, which is fine
 
2:50 PM
@Mehdi im power hungry and want to see removed messages
so same as you guys
 
So no RO for you, then
 
see, power hungry ^.
 
Yes, but I already obtained the power
 
@JBis what about this?
Oct 29 at 14:19, by JBis
but @JamesBot can :D
does your bot log messages or something?
 
I'm an honest man, i dont use jamesbot to see deleted messages
 
3:00 PM
Sounds like you're just not using the resources you have on hand well
We don't want that kind of slacking behaviour in our dictatorship council
 
but how does it read them? by logging every event or does it have access to the deleted chat transcript?
 
Deleted messages are deleted via websocket commands telling the client chat UI to mark it as deleted
If you are logging all websocket events, you'll have the original message posted event as well
 
@Mehdi logging
 
I recall there was a way to get historical events too, but I can't remember if it would include post+delete or only deletion events for past deleted messages
 
yeah you can, although im not entirely sure if it reveals a deleted message
the api call is somewhere in the unoffical docs
also i want to be RO of the Android room without knowing anything about Android
 
3:08 PM
That position is also already filled, by me
Haven't done any Android stuff in ages
Might even go and buy an iPhone over the weekend
 
Why would a robot need an inferior robot?
 
GOOD - unplugs Raghav - MORNING
 
Hello Nyak!
 
My lights just got brighter. Seems Raghav was causing the global electricity shortage.
 
you shouldn't log messages JBis, this violates the privacy of the members of the room and specially people who delete or modify their messages
 
3:15 PM
ok i can disable the log, i think it gets cleared every so often anyway
it was intended for debugging not seeing peoples messages btw
 
yeah I didn't doubt your intentions
thanks 👍
 
heya
 
k should only log in debug mode now
@ballBreaker yoooooooooooooooooo b 2 da b
 
3:31 PM
@JBis it should only log in debug mode in the sandbox room
 
alright i change that in a bit
 
thanks man, I appreciate it
 
so can i have RO? :D
jk lol
 
XD
 
yo yo yo
I shaved my head again like brittney spears
 
3:43 PM
birds flying high and you know how I feel 🎶
o/
 
how do you feel taser
are you feeling good?
 
Perfect
And you?
 
@ballBreaker Pic or it didn't happen
@Taseer Now, it's stuck in my head (but I don't mind)
 
It was stuck in my head too so I let it out by typing it here lol
 
kinda stuck in mine now too
bastard
 
3:51 PM
It's from a song called "Feeling Good" by Mollono.Bass of Album "Birds flying high Pt.1"
 
its called Feeling Good by Michael Buble
 
I have been listening to it's cover then
 
It's not called Feeling Good by Nina Simone
 
@Taseer yeah
@Nyakouai hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmm sure
maybe
depends if facebook messenger get's its shit together so I can download my pic off of it or not
yeah maybe later haha
 
@Taseer funny, that is a german comedian...
 
4:04 PM
@WarrenFaith What's his name?
 
I would need to look it up, he works with a female together...
 
@WarrenFaith "He works with a female" How bold, how progressive :P
 
That is him "Gute Arbeit" is the name of the duo
Florentin Will and Katjana Gerz
 
4:58 PM
o/
 
5:10 PM
posted on November 23, 2020 by Android Developers

Posted by David Winer, Product Manager The Android Kotlin Extensions Gradle plugin (not to be confused with Android KTX) was released in 2017 and brought two new conveniences to Android development in Kotlin: Synthetics let you replace calls to findViewById with kotlinx.android.synthetic bindings. Parcelize allows you to remove boilerplate and easily create Parcelables through the @

 
5:24 PM
o/
 
6:03 PM
O/
 
Tim
@RaghavSood nothing in dutch is "niks" with same pronunciation as "nix"
"nix" is kind of slang way to write it
6 year olds use it in text messages
 
6:19 PM
@Feeds Another day another feature rip
 
6:51 PM
Yeah @Feeds, da heck are you doin' man
 
7:01 PM
\o
 
I just got the most amazing product/business idea
But I'm almost sure Mehdi would have to remove the messages, and then me
 
interesting
share it in the discord :D
 
^
 
Done. Dave can now kick me out of the Discord
 
lmao
my wife has a she wee
 
7:17 PM
A what now?
 
Nevermind, I can guess
I'm not clicking that link while logged to my company VPN :P
 
it's a plastic tube for camping
who considers that nsfw?
 
Not me, but I suppose it could raise a few eyebrows :P As in "Why are you googling that during work hours?"
 
a she wee lmfao
 
7:20 PM
lol
 
my weeeeeeeeeed is heeeeeeeere
christmas for me
 
Cause you aren't getting any for Christmas?
 
you said it was legalized eh in Arizona dave, when's the plan for that to kick into action?
@Nyakouai lmao tbh knowing my dad, I will
woah wtf I think the dude tripled my order
nvm they just janked the weight on it when they wrote it down
 
@ballBreaker currently prosecutors are dropping all personal possession marijuana cases. In Jan it will no longer be a crime officially. In March the first licenses are expected to be issued and stores will be able to begin selling recreationally. In July prisoners will be able to start applying to have their charges dismissed
 
Triple the weight for the base price would be a crazy deal. Triple Christmas
I'm always baffled at how people are okay with it here
 
7:24 PM
@Nyakouai haha yeah especially since I already got a good deal, the guy was out of the cheap stuff I wanted (was ~ $90 an ounce) and was out of that strain so he upgraded me to the stuff that's $160 an ounce.. and kept my original price :D
 
6 months until you can start to apply? tf
 
@DaveS oh wow nice man, that's pretty quick! awesome :D
 
legal system takes time
 
I think it took us over a year or two to get things together smoothly
but I guess it's a bit different for a whole country vs one state
although our populations might be similar?
 
well maybe but we already have the medicinal framework in place
so really it's a matter of medicinal shops getting the right licenses and they can sell immediately
 
7:26 PM
right
yeah we had that too
I think the biggest thing for us was actually ramping up production a shit ton to meet the demand
 
in every province under the same medicinal system though?
ah that could be
 
yeah
 
cards are so easy to get here I don't see it being a problem
 
actually, each province was probably different since health care is managed at the provincial level
 
^
 
7:27 PM
yeah so that woulda added to it for sure
also I imagine the logistics of setting up an online store / all the dispensaries for a country our size was a logistical nightmare
 
yeah
well widespread availability is gonna be different than legal availability
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a year plus before I don't have to drive 20 miles to a specific store that has a license
wouldn't put it past the republican state legislature to fuck with it as much as possible too
 
yeah makes sense
plus with all the covid shit, might take a bit longer
@Nyakouai haha yeah it's been such a steady part of our culture for so long now
been borderline legal for a long long time
I think personal possession (7.5gs or under) has been legal here for like 20 years at least
 
Well, lots of people smoke in France, but it's still illegal, so it's frowned upon in society
So whenever I smell smoke, I began by frowning before remembering I'm the stranger here :P
 
hahaha
that's definitely reasonable
 
7:42 PM
o/ nerds
that sub is gold
 
7:54 PM
yeah that sub is dope
IDK wtf is wrong with facebook but they've broken messenger.com
 
good fuck facebook
 
this instagram, messenger, whatsapp merger has been such a mess
 
Tim
good
 
they bought (other than messenger) the only good messaging apps
and ruined them
but yeah fuck facebook
messenger is the only thing keeping me from deleting mine
I'm glad they keep letting you use it with a deactivated account at least
I just watched a squirrel shit on my patio furniture on my balcony that's 11 stories up
why does this squirrel hate me so much
he climbed 11 floors to shit on my shit
 
I can see them freezing them to death on an electric pole outside my window. They look kinda miserable lately
Maybe this one came to get back at you for not letting it inside in this cold weather
 
8:07 PM
hahah maybe
when I realized they were climbing up the side of the building to get to balconies I left a little bowl of little nuts out as a treat
the next day there wass sooooo much squirrel shit on my balcony so I never did it again haha but now I still get the poop
although a lot less
 
Your balcony is now the winter toilet
You're welcome
 
haha
friggin squirrels man
 
8:46 PM
the veeeeeeeery right part of my spacebar is starting to fail and its driving me crazy
somanywordsgetaccidentallyputtogetherrrr
 
I don't know what entally means
 
hmmm
I feel like you maybe missed some previous letters xD
 
So many words get acid, yeah
 
haha
accid
 
I mean, you're already doing weed, acid isn't that much harder :P
Shh, it doesn't fit the joke
 
8:52 PM
lmao
acid is like
20 steps above weed
I'm tempted to fix this spacebar myself but I'm worried I'll break it and then have NO spacebar
lol
 
depends on how much you take
a mild dose isn't much harder than weed to enjoy
 
fair
 
9:07 PM
I can not relate
Never took anything harder than alcohol
And I'm already bad at it
Weak genes
 
a mild acid dose is easier to handle than being drunk
but a strong acid dose is a rough ride
like anything it's about setting and dosage
 
yeah I don't really dabble in acid after a horrifying experience my first time lol
I know I'll probably be fine and not have a repeat bad time, but not worth
 
worst experience as two paper tabs getting absolutely fucked up not knowing what I was doing
 
I really enjoyed it before I absolutely hatedit though
 
best experience was small camping festival with a bunch of friends on private property and my friend had a mild vial and we'd just get a drop every couple hours
and had a great chill time
 
9:13 PM
yeah I had 1 paper tab, was great, had a second paper tab, was amazing .. and then about an hour later I decided it was a good idea to smoke weed for the first time in like 2 years
and that turned it up from a 7/10 trip to like a 30/10
 
lol dumbass it was the second tab
 
nah
 
takes an hour to kick in
 
it was the weed
 
I mean weed can definitely enhance it
 
9:14 PM
my timing doesn't make sense but I meant an hour after the second tab hit
 
ah
 
not an hour after I took it
yeah haha it turned it from like this is a fun hallucination experience to omg I'm in a cartoon world that I'm never getting out of
 
well I usually smoke before during and after trips so not a big deal
never ramps up on me like that
alcohol it will though
 
yeah that makes sense, it was definitely since I had such a looooooooooong break on the weeds
 
yeah
I usually don't want to take so much acid I hallucinate anyway
I mostly want the mild wavy effects and vibing
go dance at festival
 
9:15 PM
yeah thats what I would prefer myself as well
 
but keep track of my wallet
 
more like a nice shroom trip than a balls to the wall hallucination thing
 
yeah
too much acid and you lose track of where you end and the hallucinations start
 
my acid experience after the point of no return was more like salvia than acid at that point it was really terrifying haha
yeah exactly
 
that's too much unless you're going for a spiritual awakening in a safe setting
 
9:17 PM
yeah for sure
my friend was trying to help calm me, but he was just as mangled as I was and he wasn't blinking when he was helping me and it was scaring the shit out of me lmao
 
lol
One time I took too much at Coachella and had to stay behind until the evening, it was also deathly hot
but I could feel my friend's facial expressions on my body
it was weird
 
lmao
 
like my friend would smile and I'd feel it on my arm
 
brb in a sec gunna try to fix this spacebar real quick and hopefully not break it..
 
Woah. Last time I felt so fucked up, it was this night, in a weird half lucid dream (the one you know you're probably dreaming, but can't control). You mean you can get this bad while awake? Brr
 
9:27 PM
well I've never really been in a situation where I couldn't control my actions
it's just the information you get can get messed up so badly it makes it difficult
 
lmao so much cat hair in here
 
and that's when you take way too much
 
feck
didnt fix the problem
I guess the metal must be a lil bent
 
did you try turning it off and then back on again?
 
9:43 PM
gah
I kinda fixed it and at least improved it by maybe like 20%
still a deadzone though in the bottom right corner of the space bar :/ whatever
annoooooyyyiinnggg
@Nyakouai hahah
 
probably just apples software updates causing planned obsolescence of your space bar
 
the only time ive lost full control of myself was salvia
so just stay away from salvia
 
First time, I thought it was a typo of saliva
Did not make much sense
 
@DaveS yeah probably eh, they're infecting lenovo laptops with their malware
 
Does not now either. tf is salvia?
 
9:44 PM
@Nyakouai hahaha
Salvia divinorum (also known as sage of the diviners, ska maría pastora, seer's sage, yerba de la pastora or simply salvia) is a plant species with transient psychoactive properties when its leaves are consumed by chewing, smoking or as a tea. The leaves contain opioid-like compounds that induce hallucinations. Because the plant has not been well-studied in high-quality clinical research, little is known about its toxicology, adverse effects, or safety over long-term consumption. Its native habitat is cloud forest in the isolated Sierra Mazateca of Oaxaca, Mexico, where it grows in shady, moist...
Used to be fully legal here, could get it at gas stations/convenience stores
 
it can transfer through saliva, hence the name so be careful kissing strangers
you might get really high
 
and it was the most intense hallucination ever, it's like DMT but way more intense/less euphoric and usually you have lesscontrol
 
yeah salvia is super intense but also super short
 
yeah
 
not long enough for you to cause much damange
I was only out 5-10 minutes
 
9:46 PM
yeah as long as you havesomeone watching you you're finefor the most part
fucking god fucking dam it
 
I like how you guys know so munch about this stuff, enough to write a bunch of guide and share it there... and I have 0 intention to ever try :P
 
guess thats what happens when you grow up as an angsty white kid in the suburbs
 
haha
I grew up in a small city of ~25k people so drugs were the only thing to do
 
drugs get a bad rap from society, hallucinogens helped me overcome depression / suicidal thoughts, may have saved my life
similar but the edge of a big city with nothing to do
wasn't developed yet
 
makes sense
I can see the vibes being similar
the outskirt boroughs of toronto are a lot skeevier than inner city
reminds me of home :')
 
9:49 PM
yeah I mean there was miles of desert to the N W and E of my block
closest movie theater was like 6 miles away
 
true lmao
definitely can see the similarities
man this spacebar is making me lose my mind slowly 0.1% every day
having to retype words repeatedly gets under the skin slowly
 
0.1% of 0 is still 0
you're good
 
haha
 
Meh. My teenage years were not that fun, but nothing dramatic. I never needed anything to cope, since I always managed to live through it in the end. Now, the whole idea of trip is less pleasing than the appeal of letting go, so... *shrugs
 
yeah that's fair, I never did drugs to self diagnose a shitty life but they were really just a crutch of boredom
 
9:51 PM
^
 
they definitely did help me through some stuff though as side effect
 
it was an accidental overcoming of depression
 
yeah makes sense dave
 
just realized some basic truths about perspective and attitude and helped rewire my brain out of anxiety
 
that being said, I wish I held off on smoking weed as early and as frequently as I did
 
9:52 PM
yeah weed wasn't that great for my teenage development
 
definitely stumped some mental growth
yeah
it fucks with your dopamine cycles too, I'd argue it primes you for addiction more than someone who doesn't (other than the whole, addiction to weed aspects of it)
 
yeah the effects on an immature brain aren't great
 
yeah definitely
plus who wants to vaguely remember some of the "best" times in their life
highschool and university are suuuuch a blur for me
university not as much but highschool I almost entirely forget a whole year of my life
 
yeah it definitely impacted my grades and study habits
I wouldn't say I smoked so much that it's foggier than other years
but I gave less of a shit about homework and such
 
that's fair
for some reason grade 10 is particularly bad for me
the rest is foggyish but that year is almost entirely gone lol
that could just be the 7 or 8 concussions I've had too though
 
9:56 PM
lol could be
 
hahahah not a good combo for the ol memory
 
I'd probably rather my kids experiment safely with acid / shrooms than habitually smoke weed
in their teens*
 
@ballBreaker Just pile that over there, on the "possible cause" plate, the doctor will see you shortly
 
@DaveS yeah same, I think forming an addiction like that at a young age is a bad news bears scenario
its hard to get addicted to shrooms/acid
particularly shrooms
@Nyakouai hahahahaha pretty much
 
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