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12:18 AM
cbg,
does the json library have a command for seeing all the nested elements in a json like a tree
 
1:13 AM
The json module will do conversion from JSON str or file to nested dict, and the reverse. To view the contents of a nested dict, look at using the pprint module, which can show a nested dict like a tree (sometimes I have to fuss with the width arg to get what I want)). You can also convert from the nested dict to a JSON string with an indent argument, which will generate a tree-like output.
 
I suppose I should be a bit more careful, I wanted to see all the unique keys at each level of nesting
my bad, the json I was looking at is particularly massive
so just knowing all the args like 6-7 layers deep would be helpful
 
You'll probably need to roll that for yourself. But parsing the JSON to a dict and then walking the dict recursively to print out the keys at each level, in an indented form, would be a good exercise.
 
 
7 hours later…
8:11 AM
a = [['a', 'b'], ['c', 'd']]
b = ['e', 'f']

print(list(zip(a, b)))

# Output>  [(['a', 'b'], 'e'), (['c', 'd'], 'f')]
# Desired > [['a','b','e'], ['c','d','f']]
I've achieved it using the following print([x + [y] for x, y in zip(a, b)]) but looking to know if there's a simple way for it
 
print([i+[b[idx]] for idx,i in enumerate(a)]) if you want to avoid the zip but yours is better
why do you think that is not simple?
 
i think that itertools have a func which wrap it
 
wrap?
print([*map(lambda x:[*chain(*x)],zip(a,b))]) ?
chain is from itertools
 
8:56 AM
Morning
I got that question regarding numpy
One of my student asked me this but I could not find a decent answer
Let's say
I have this var_array = np.array([[2, 3, 4, 5], [9, 8, 7, 6], [11, 22, 33, 44]])
If I do this var_array = a[: , 1:3], I have [[3, 4], [8, 7], [22, 33]]
I understand the : part, which says all the sub arrays inside of the main array.
What I don't get is the 1:3: Is it not supposed to do pick the second element until the last element e.g for the first sub array 3,4,5?
 
it's picking element 2 and 3 from each list
 
I understand for the index 1, because 1+1 but for the index 3, should not it be 3+1...?
@αԋɱҽԃαмєяιcαη yes, I can see it
 
[2, 3, 4, 5] >>> by index it's [0, 1, 2, 3]

so when you say 1:3 so it's will pickup 3,4 and stop on 5
 
@αԋɱҽԃαмєяιcαη ah ... 5 is excluded
all rite... thanks.
 
you welcome.
>>> a = [1,2,3,4,5]
>>> a[1:3]
[2, 3]
>>>
 
9:05 AM
indeed, the ending of the slicing is not inclusive
 
that's correct. so in case if you want to pickup the rest, just use [1:]
 
10:02 AM
My youtube playlist seems to slowly be morphing to be entirely Thomas Bergersen while working. It seems odd to me that he writes more compelling music (at least to me) than Hans Zimmer but got a lot less traction
I did look up his net worth, though, and it's apparently $6m so I won't spend too long lamenting this fact :P
 
10:16 AM
Might want to check Hans Zimmer's net worth :P
By the way, I need a "you are doing it wrong" dupe. Preferably for "why is <concurrency framework> slow when doing <non concurrent task>?"
 
Oh sure, but I meant more as in, Thomas is not exactly broke himself :P
For the dupe question, can you narrow it down a bit or you want a catch-all thing regarding the GIL? Or maybe it's the overhead of spawning multiple processes?
I think there's multiple simple pitfalls that people get caught up in in that <waves hands> area
 
OP is trying to parallelize two tasks. They spawn task 1 in a process, wait for completion, then spawn task 2 in a process, wait for completion, ...
 
Oh. I don't know what to search for in that case and I don't have one off the top of my head sorry
Indeed, everything I'm turning up is just about .Pool() :/
 
 
1 hour later…
12:01 PM
Hi anyone here i have a doubt regarding pyspark ,spark
 
Nope, nobody here :P I don't think we have many (any?) regulars that use Spark so we might struggle, but it's better that you just ask your question and people will help if/when they can
 
 
1 hour later…
1:04 PM
I feel a bit behind the times - I didn't know Tim Post was leaving
 
1:38 PM
well that question is less than a day old
A merge in the wild! i.stack.imgur.com/zjUkM.png
It's only fitting for SO employees to hijack the community farewall post that came first.
Heh, four paragraphs 24 hours after the community post.
 
1:59 PM
Ah, ok, I hadn't followed the twitter trail. I just saw "as some of you may know" and I didn't :)
 
2:28 PM
sad he's no longer going to be a CE/CM... but can't wait for him to get back to being an "ordinary mod" once he's had his vacation :)
 
I find it really odd that these things are announced at the very last second. I don't know whether it's just a corporate thing over the pond or something else, but it's very unusual to me
In other news, I now don't believe any of my timeit work :O
^ I should have hyperlinked that better - it's not the result of my work but the principle is concerning
 
3:10 PM
@roganjosh you might want to take a look at pyperf. drop-in replacement for timeit, avoids some gotchas of timeit's default behaviour.
plus, running benchmarks on pypy with timeit always scolds you to use pyperf instead...
 
Thanks, and I think that makes sense. I guess I'm a bit bummed that the one ipython magic I actually use might have shot me in the foot
 
I am a newbie in python but this guy stackoverflow.com/questions/63894169/… has the exact same issue I am having. It says "The fix is to use Python3's version of urlencode. Fortunately, Python3 seems to have a drop in replacement:" and it says "replace from pandas.io.common import urlencode with from urllib.parse import urlencode"... how do I go about that?
 
Exactly as stated in the answer. Change your import statement at the top of your script
It should just be the case of changing 1 line of code any everything working :)
Looking at your comment under their answer, I think there's either a) some fundamental misunderstanding on your side or b) you're not using a conventional setup. Have you inherited this code from someone else?
 
Maybe this is more readable.
Replace this line:
    from pandas.io.common import urlencode
with this line:
    from urllib.parse import urlencode
 
that's the thing... that isn't my import statement... my import statement is: "from pandas_datareader import data as pdr".... and in the error it points to "pandas.io.common import urlencode"... my guess is that is buried in the pandas_datareader or something
import pandas as pd
import numpy as np
import datetime
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
from pandas_datareader import data as pdr
import yfinance as yf
those are my import statements
 
3:23 PM
Since "with" is a valid Python keyword, I first read that as a single Python statement.
 
@XCELLGUY Ok, so the library pandas_datareader is probably out of date
 
i just installed it... so i don't think so... but again the link i mentioned says... "The reason is that pandas removed urlencode from their library. Thus, with newer versions of pandas this will never work. Installing other libraries or upgrading will NOT address the issue."
 
I'm looking into it now, give me a couple of mins because it looks like the library is being maintained and this is a legacy issue
 
thank you
i tried installing pandas 1.0.3
 
And?
 
3:26 PM
that didn't work
 
Searching the github repo for pandas_datareader, it looks like the latest version uses the stdlib urlencode, as you would like. Maybe you just need to pip install --upgrade pandas_datareader
 
i read somewhere that it might
 
I'm wondering whether you're on Python 2.7 at this point
 
pandas_datareader is not part of pandas, you need to update it separately
 
im using anaconda
 
3:27 PM
And what version of python?
 
again very new... but...
i tried 3.8
and 3.6 python
both produce a similar error
here is my entire code
 
taps microphone Is this thing on?
 
import pandas as pd
import numpy as np
import datetime
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
from pandas_datareader import data as pdr
import yfinance as yf
yf.pdr_override()

#aapl = pdr.get_data_yahoo('AAPL', start=datetime.datetime(2018, 1, 1), end=datetime.datetime(2019, 1, 1))
data = pdr.get_data_yahoo("SPY", start="2017-01-01", end="2017-04-30")
daily_close =appl[['Adj Close']]
daily_pct_c = daily_close.pct_change()

wealth_index = 1000*(1+daily_pct_C["Adj Close"]).cumprod()
previous_peaks = wealth_index.cummax()
 
Ok, so I don't have pandas_datareader in my setup, meaning it isn't installed as part of Anaconda. Did you pip install it or conda install it?
 
lol sorry? what?
oh...
well neither...
 
3:29 PM
So how did you get it installed?
 
i used anaconda navigator
clicked on environment
 
Ok, so that's the equivalent of conda install. Let me try replicate
 
then there is a package search
ok
 
@roganjosh - please explain to @XCELLGUY that pandas_datareader is not part of pandas, and that it appears that the latest version of pandas_datareader in the github repo uses the correct import
 
@PaulMcG Sorry Paul, I was jumping between windows and missed this. I think you and I are on the same lines
I think they're aware of that. For my own curiosity, I want to see which version is in the conda repo. They sometimes don't ship the latest versions. It's just hella-slow to do it via the navigator
 
3:33 PM
lol... yes... but i like it... :-) (the GUI approach that is...)
 
@XCELLGUY - are you aware that pandas_datareader is not a part of pandas, but must be updated separately?
 
yes... i started this project yesterday and installed both yesterday...
 
Ok, the package listed in conda is 0.8.1
 
even tried to update pandas-datareader... but it said it was already
what does that mean?
 
Please do print(pandas_datareader.__version__)
 
3:35 PM
k
 
Looks like you have hit this issue then? github.com/pydata/pandas-datareader/issues/833
 
0.8.1
 
Oki doki, time to try repro it then
 
? what does that mean?
 
I have pretty much the same setup as you do, so I'm going to try reproduce ("repro") the issue on my computer. That saves me asking questions to help debug if I can just get the errors on my own computer myself
 
3:39 PM
lol... ok
 
That issue is fixed in pandas_datareader 0.9.0
 
I mean... I would be doing that right now if I wasn't still waiting for yamming Anaconda Navigator to do its job (honestly, you don't have to live like this!)
 
Which was released in July
 
Ok, that's just easier. Thanks Paul. Are you on Windows, @XCELLGUY?
 
hold on...
it looks like i can install that version...
 
3:42 PM
From the command line, yes. Not from the conda repository shown in Anaconda Navigator
 
what i mean is... from this wonderful anaconda navigator... when i right click on the check mark... you can select a specific version... and 0.9.0 is an option... I don't know why it defaults to installing an older version... anyways... i uninstalled... (via right click check mark)... and now I am installing 0.9.0...
 
I installed anaconda a few years ago, but getting it to cooperate with pip was too complicated, so I haven't looked again lately. Also, I think their default version of pyparsing is 2.2.1, which is from September 2018, and could stand an upgrade.
 
Ok, in future, I really just suggest leaving the Anaconda Navigator alone. It's, frankly, crap. Just open a command prompt and do pip install <package_name_here>. I'll caveat this advice with saying that they go out of their way to recommend not doing this, but I've not broken anything in 5 years
I mean, I've broken tonnes of stuff, but never through not doing conda install or going through the navigator
 
I think the vision for conda is to try to keep from installing incompatible versions. It's possible that the most recent incarnation of pip does a better job with this issue.
 
Fun fact: when I installed Anaconda on this laptop they were shipping incompatible versions of multiple libraries so they failed in that quest
Jan 3 at 12:26, by roganjosh
@smci 4.7.12. I think the issue in the end is that the current Anaconda version from here has dependency issues in what it's shipping. Downgrading conda works to fix the first issue, but then it keeps finding conflicts when you e.g. try to upgrade to Spyder 4. There are no irreconcilable conflicts but I think it can't find its way through dependencies. The solution was simply conda update --all
Also, better than pip install, maybe python -m pip install but I suspect that issue is unlikely on Windows when you're starting out
 
3:53 PM
I have taken a couple 16 week classes in python... and been self teaching myself for a few years too... i used to use pip... but i used quantopian which used jupyter notebook... and quantopian shut down... so i needed to install jupyter notebook to read my code... i didn't like the idea of launching jupyter notebook from the command prompt... not bc i am scared... its just awkward... and hard for me to remember as infrequent as i use it... this led me to anaconda... and the navigator
 
Once upon a time I could do some pretty nifty things in Excel. Those days are gone. I'm probably just a few steps away from going back to doing sums in a calculator and typing the results back into cells now
 
i am by no means a guru... but I am 1000 times the level of anyone I work with... or anyone I have ever met in real life...
 
... until that pesky python comes along :P
 
lol...
I have been working with C# also...
 
It's super-easy to misuse pandas when you're starting out and you can easily sit wondering why the hell everyone talks about it. But once you get some of the basics down, it's unlikely you'll want to open a spreadsheet to do anything but look at it
 
3:58 PM
really...
all i hear... is "pandas is so powerful"... but I don't really even know what it is...
 
I certainly don't do any work in Excel any more. If I'm on Windows, it's just a convenience to be able to scroll along columns, which you can't really do with pandas intuitively
 
the code i pasted above is plagiarized...
well crap... now it says i need to install yfinance... i have done it 3 times... and it goes through the motions but then isn't installed... i just closed everything down and now am re-launching...
 
In the back of my mind, the stocks portion of pandas was overhauled a while back
What is it you ultimately want?
 
there is a calculation called max drawdown... many packages include a "maxDrawdown" function... so the calculation part of it isn't necessary... I want to look at every stock on the stock market (roughly 8000 or so) and check their max drawdown over x time period... maybe a year? or 3 months? whatever... then I want a to sort them in order of least amount of drawdown... to most... for example... this isn't real... but... 1 year:
apple = maxdrawdown = 10%
google = maxdrawdown = 11%
GE = maxdrawdown = 15%
etc...
omg... so yesterday I installed yfinance... worked fine... now I can't install it... it goes through the motions but then isn't installed
 
4:19 PM
That's an interesting metric, I've just been reading about it here. I can't say that I find it particularly intuitive in the example to ignore the $800,000 peak, but that's by-the-by. Do you have the actual data already?
 
if i go to the command line and use pip...
the environment i am using is "Python 3-8 myDrawdown"
do i need to navigate to that?
 
Lol, the investopedia formula is screwed anyway so I'm not sure what to make of what I just read
 
or activate?
 
You will need to activate that particular conda environment
Then run the pip install command inside that environment
 
yahoo finance seems to be the place to get the data... like steams it from their api or something... i have used it in excel... and in backtrader... quantopian uses quandl... but its no longer free as i understand...
the yahoo one breaks from time to time but is working now as i understand
 
4:23 PM
Again, I have a sneaky feeling they changed pandas on this point. Honestly, I seem to remember them just ripping this functionality out
Ah, it wasn't pandas. The history is explained here.
 
so i need to activate my environment... then i need to navigate to "C:\Users\RussellT\Anaconda3\envs\Python 3-8 myDrawdown" and do "C:\Users\RussellT\Anaconda3\envs\Python 3-8 myDrawdown\conda install -c ranaroussi yfinance" is this right?
or is there another folder deeper i need to go?
 
What do you think "activate your environment" does?
 
ok so.... when i type in "conda activate Python 3-8 myDrawdown"... it will automatically take me to the correct file location?
 
Nope
 
ok... idk what "activate your environment" does
 
4:35 PM
But it should probably override the pip command
I don't know the windows equivalent of which to prove it
 
@XCELLGUY conda abstracts a lot of stuff away for you. It might be helpful just to think that it points your commands to a particular .exe and everything installed goes into a specific directory
 
@AndrasDeak where command?
 
The point of environments is isolation. So stuff you do in one conda environment won't affect another environment. If you just open a command prompt/powershell/conda cmd window and do conda install x it will install it into your "base" environment
You will see these names in Anaconda Navigator on the left hand side when you try to install new packages
 
i dont understand... should i navigate to the "lib" folder? I have heard some people say that? or the scripts folder? some people say that? I understand the concept of the environment... I just dont understand exactly how to install a package into a specific environment using the command line...
i normally use the navigator... but see above... it isn't working for some reason
 
4:41 PM
?
 
@YeshwinVermaTheProgrammer you too
 
@YeshwinVermaTheProgrammer and to you too :)
@XCELLGUY ok, first, just drop the idea of the Navigator. It's not helpful
 
ok... I am trying...
 
Once you've activated an environment, everything you install in python goes to a separate directory
 
so i need to activate my environment... then i need to navigate to "C:\Users\RussellT\Anaconda3\envs\Python 3-8 myDrawdown" and do "C:\Users\RussellT\Anaconda3\envs\Python 3-8 myDrawdown\conda install -c ranaroussi yfinance" is this right?
or is there another folder deeper i need to go?
 
4:44 PM
I appreciate that the reasons for this probably make no sense at all when you're starting out. But it's for a very good reason that will become clearer as time goes on
 
first i do "conda activate Python 3-8 myDrawdown"
 
No, you just need to activate the environment. Then you will see something like this:
 
right?
 
Notice the environment name in brackets on the command line?
 
yeah
 
4:46 PM
@BožoStojković beats me
 
That's all you need. Once you have that, then do pip install and it will go to that specific environment
 
ok... but instead of "pip"... its best to do "conda install -c ranaroussi yfinance" right?
 
Don't bother. Just use pip. If it breaks, you can yell at me in another chat room
5
 
lol
 
@roganjosh Jesus, your tabs xD
 
4:49 PM
@BožoStojković “if a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?"
 
Good point :P
 
Also, there's a tab hoarder far worse than me in this room. I'm just not calling them out :P
FWIW I think I can name the context of at least 90% of them without clicking them. That's pretty good going... the high-level-alarm isn't going off just yet
 
That's pretty awesome. Wish I had that kind of power c:
I stopped hoarding tabs some time ago. I don't know what changed, but it makes me uncomfortable, so I close them as soon as I can, or if I can't, I bookmark them and put tags in the title. I like the new Edge having collections, it's a good idea, just needs some more work.
 
I'm not sure it's "awesome" but it does help that I can context-shift relatively quickly :) I'm not sure it's ADD but I can't focus very well on one thing at a time. If I need to concentrate, I turn the music up louder (which makes no sense at all) :P
 
InvalidArchiveError('Error with archive C:\\... bla... bla... bla... \\yfinance-0.1.54-py_0.tar.bz2. You probably need to delete and re-download or recreate this file. message from libarchive was:\n\nCould not unlink')
that must be why the navigator wasn't working
thats what i got when i manually tried via cmd line
 
5:02 PM
@roganjosh FWIW, listening to relatively loud, non-vocal music helps me numb the surroundings and concentrate
 
Awesome, I'm not alone in this! :)
 
how do i manually delete it? do i literally delete that file "yfinance-0.1.54-py_0.tar.bz2"
 
I actually don't know how you got that
 
<Yelling commences>
 
Hahaha
 
5:05 PM
@roganjosh 1144 and counting
 
@AndrasDeak I KNEW it was you
 
We don't know that
 
I'm gonna call it; he knew :P
 
I thought it was either you or Kevin
 
Kevin being Kevin probably stores his info in the 5th dimension, not some silly 2D browser
 
5:08 PM
But something about "I'm just not calling them out" made me think it was someone in chat currently
@roganjosh Haha, true
 
@XCELLGUY I haven't forgotten you btw. Please put the full traceback into dpaste or something and link back
 
user14596741
Hi guys, i've opensourced package, but came into some problem
 
oh no
 
Can you link the package?
 
user14596741
5:12 PM
I will sure, but when have build i will show you guys, it is underdevelopement although package have been made.
 
@edward But you've released it on pypi, so anyone can now download it, right? I'm not sure why you'd be reticent to give us a link when you've made it available for the whole world to include in their work
 
user14596741
I will show you sure, when is completed, after all i've made it gpl version :) just need more months to finish it . for now just implemented some functions :)
 
That's not a good sign. If you don't want to show us then why do you expect people to be able to use it?
 
user14596741
ok guys, i am deleting this account. I will come from original account and ask :)
 
5:18 PM
In other words, if you think it's too broken to show us, then it's too broken to be published#
 
<The plot thickens>
 
"We" already know who they are btw
 
by the way... tried navigating to the folder and deleted the "yfinance-0.1.54-py_0.tar.bz2" zip folder... and tried installing again... same thing happened...
 
Ah I'm behind in reading the chat >:(
 
@BožoStojković you're not behind on the chat :)
 
5:19 PM
Oh I see
 
@XCELLGUY I previously asked for the traceback
 
i took a picture of the cmd line and sent it? is that not what you mean?
 
user13415013
:)
 
Another alt?
 
@XCELLGUY sorry, I overlooked the context. You can't yell at me over this because you went with conda install :P
 
5:22 PM
i knew you were going to say that...
 
user13415013
:) while importing importing
I had folder 1 -> folder 2 -> python_file and inside it function
inside folder 2 ive used __init__
When importing package i've to do
from folder1.folder2.python_file import some_function
 
@XCELLGUY I mean... contracts are contracts!
 
user13415013
but i want to do from folder_1.python_file import some_function
 
so... if i try pip... you think everything will be peachy?
 
user13415013
yes,
 
5:25 PM
No, but I'm not giving you the "yell at me elsewhere" option now because that conda command could have done anything to sabotage my plan (it's probably immaterial if it even did anything, which it probably didn't)
If law was like what it is on TV, I think I'd find a nice home in that profession
 
ok... i am remorseful for my actions... now what do i do?
:-P
 
You did not follow terms of the contract. You will now be terminated.
 
Er, pip install?
@BožoStojković <bangs gavel>
 
2nd chances?
 
Just do the install!!
 
user13415013
5:31 PM
cbg
 
user13415013
why everybody silent, lets have some fun :)
 
@nerd no
 
user13415013
:)
 
cbg nerd, but this isn't that kind of chat room
 
@nerd you may not have picked it up but you've been nothing but exhausting since you've come with your sock puppet account to ask all sorts of things. If I were you I'd lay low until I have something to ask for help with, rather than try to generate off-topic noise too.
 
user13415013
5:42 PM
:D, Please dont mine, i didnt wanted to hurt anybody thoughts.
 
I do mine
 
user13415013
sorry :)
 
@nerd it's "mind" not "mine" (which means something entirely different). The people here are basically of a mindset that every problem can be tackled and you keep posting nonsense. I hope I haven't mischaracterised the room, but people want to fix things and you make it hard
 
^ I second that
 
user13415013
My package problem have been solved, actually my all python functions were importing as seperate modules .
while making package,
folder1 then have __init__ and then folder2 and inner python functions,
This worked.
 
6:32 PM
@roganjosh... just now got it working!! such an amazing feeling!! thanks for your help!!
 
Glad to hear it @XCELLGUY :)
 
so... I accidentally in the process of troubleshooting created a "Python 3-8 myDrawdown" environment and a "Python 3-8 myScreener" environment... the names were similar enough that I didn't notice i was in the wrong environment when i was trying pip install yfinance
so of course it kept saying yfinance was not installed
surprisingly... you were right... dispite all the documentation to the contrary... my computer didn't burst into flames from using pip install instead of conda install
 
@XCELLGUY "surprisingly" :P
^ I'm totally wrong all the time but I wouldn't be making bets if I wasn't confident :P
 
6:50 PM
:P
 
Just a complete random thing: Do you guys have any recommendation for hosting (flask) websites?
 
I'm not sure it makes any real difference that it's flask. Are you willing to pay?
 
Actually "not initially but yes"
 
For example, I went with Digital Ocean for my own site because I really needed CPU power to actually deliver what I wanted as content on my site. Beyond that (CPU/RAM), I don't think there's much more to consider
And I say "CPU power" but I only have 2 cores. But they're dedicated to me
 
Well it's the thing I dont' need that at all, only thing I need is ability to run my own dockers with nginx and one running flask. (And another for postgres, redis etc).
But the actual cpu, memory or disk load will be really low. Since these would just be portfolio projects.
But since i don't have a job I cna't really afford to go into all those 10+ dollar things, that's about half a month of living expenses.
 
user6568562
7:01 PM
@paul23 Why do you need Docker if it's a simple portfolio project ?
 
Since actually that is my biggest strength nowadays: being able to work with dockers or customizing unix systems. From the job I had before corona I actually switched away from programming to more setting up dockers, managing nas etc.
 
@paul23 That's not a good situation to be in, so I totally sympathise and help where I can, but my instance is costing me £25/month and that's far from their most-basic plans. I don't believe there's such a disparity between the UK and The Netherlands that this is half a month of living expenses
 
I'd hoped things would open up at the fall so I could be rehired. However that's not the case.
I mean food etc :P
My parents have taken over paying for rent right now.
 
user6568562
You should give nanode from linode a try, if you hadn't already
 
But can't live on their retirement fund for long.
 
user6568562
7:06 PM
Can you answer my question above ? As to your usecase of docker
 
The entry level servers are like $5 for a month. I don't buy the idea that this half a month's salary under any circumstance.
Not the $5 or the $25 price tags
 
@randomhopeful Just to show "hey I'm fluent in setting up dockers and managing container clouds".
 
user6568562
I hear you, I was in that "situation", once. If you can't afford showing off, it's really okay. You self host your case and then use tools for public access. If you have a reliable internet, it really easy and boils down to turning on your local computer and giving the other party a link
 
Well I currently dont' really know how much I'll be able to afford, since in the process of getting formal reduction on all bills. (Though it would mean the government decides my allowance).
Really annoying to get "fired" -actually just no income till the company has clients again, which are event organizers- in march just when I moved houses (but actually even too expensive for that job - the location was supposed to be a stop gap to prevent travelling. Then without a job no one would take me so I was forced to stay in the overpriced apartment).

Now my bank account has kind of ran dry and I'm sick of waiting till events are allowed again. Even though the government keeps saying "in a month you can start up", "oh wait nope you cannot".
 
user6568562
@paul23 Give this option a thought.
 
7:18 PM
@randomhopeful sorry, that's a bit sketchy. I'll just move that.
 
user6568562
I understand and fully cooperate, lol.
 
@paul23 I can certainly understand the frustration, but this isn't pointed at trying to find a solution in programming terms, it's just venting
 
yeah yeah, no worries won't continue.
 
FWIW I've lost thousands of pounds that I put away to buy a house and only this week I turned 33 and I'm living with my mum. I'm fortunate. Your situation seems worse, but we can't go anywhere just by complaining
 
user6568562
Hosting is a headache, for sure. Unless you have buckets of money to throw at problems, it is tricky to get satisfied.
 
user6568562
7:21 PM
I ended up renting a bare metal machine, but I had to go against every idea I was convinced of.
 
Well my initial idea was to "hey let's get this aws under my belt so I can tell I'm experienced with that".
 
So you'll excuse my brunt question of "do you think this site represents you well?"
 
huh?
 
Because it seems like your skills are back-end, so I'm not sure how a flask app illustrates it
 
Well my skills are backend + python... I use python to do nearly all tasks.
 
user6568562
7:24 PM
Also, from I think I understood,you're seeking to be hired, and personal projects are often ignored. At least in my biased experience.
 
That dodges my question
 
Well and "python + website" = flask (or django for that matter) as easy way to show off. I can't really show off the maintenance scripts I created for my old company can I?
@randomhopeful I keep running into "experience with aws/azure/xyzframework" at job postings?
 
ok... So i have a question... My anaconda environment keeps having a pop-up message saying it needs to update... I click "yes" update... but nothing seems to happen... I see that I can update by going to the command prompt (using windows) and typing in "conda update anaconda-navigator" but it says it doesn't recognize conda...
am I supposed to do this from "anaconda powershell prompt" instead or something? or the "anaconda prompt"? I see these 2 options under start-->all programs-->anaconda3 (64-bit)
 
@paul23 I don't know. That might be the thing we should be considering before trying to think of how to host the app
 
user6568562
@paul23 I don't know, I just have this experience, that anything you do personally doesn't hold its weight in the eyes of employers
 
7:29 PM
nevermind... i figured it out
 
You're asking how to host an app in the cheapest (free) way and we haven't even established whether it's even a sensible route. If I can, I'll piggyback it on my server, somehow, because I'm bored of the collateral Covid damage. But I can't get a grip of where you're at.
 
user6568562
Listen, if you have a really interesting project, and you're serious about it, I can lend you some space on my own machine
 
Lol, jinx
 
user6568562
lol rogan
 
7:35 PM
@roganjosh To be honest: I'm not really "anywhere" yet, I'm merely using the weekend to look at options to broaden my job search.
One of the things is to go into more general web-development, especially "frontend" thingy seems popular with job offers.
 
user6568562
That's a trap
 
As well as cloud hosting... (We used on premise at my "previous" job). So I wish to learn as well as show what I learned those in the next few months.
 
user6568562
@paul23 Make a VM, treat it as remote hosting, once you've got something tangible, get in touch with me, and we'll do it live Bill O'Reilly style
 
user6568562
Hosting isn't really your real issue, it seems
 
Oh it wasn't, was just meant as quick question and got sucked into my mood XD
 
user6568562
7:43 PM
I've been there, no worries
 
Cbg Pears. Happy Diwali To All. 🙏🎆🎇🧨
 
@Destroyer-byte Happy Diwali to you too :)
 
Thank You Josh 😃👍
:)
 
user6568562
Anyone planning to come to Tunisia ?
 
user6568562
I know it isn't the first destination to think of, but I would be happy to host you
 
user6568562
7:55 PM
@paul23 A little bit of pun intended
 
8:28 PM
@paul23 I've just gone through the transcript a second time and you can absolutely do this
I'll give you my honest review of your responses, though. You're just making excuses. You've had me and randomhopeful offer you free hosting, with implied difficulties to figure out, and you carried on as normal.... "you're welcome"
 
? I'm not trying to be ungrateful, I'm just not really in a point to actually do much. As I don't know how I am financially in two weeks.
 
What does that have to do with the server I own?
 
Don't wish to take that hand if I can pay for myself. :/
Not being rude, just feels wrong.
 
user6568562
It's okay, man
 
Stuff it, take the help. I can't argue your point, though
 
user6568562
8:39 PM
Know just that spend money to make money only works when you're ve got a lot.
 
user6568562
If you're good enough to be a backend agent, don't try to shift full stack.
 
If the government decides we are officially an company base on "events" my salary would be paid for 70% by them. -- Currently we're not since we officialy registered as something like "general ict", even though 100% of our customers and all our applications are made specific for big events.
 
user6568562
What is your country, if I may ask
 
I'm actually happier now knowing the response. Let's fix this portion of the problem
 
The netherlands
 
8:41 PM
@paul23 I got ****ed by this same thing
 
user6568562
Nice country, just keep tight and hone your specific skills. My lone opinion.
 
Do you have a screenshot of the site?
It's totally-non-trivial for me to host it btw so it better be good :P
 
Not at all, as said I am just looking at what options I should take to get hired easier
 
user6568562
Well, you have it then, two free options, one of them non trivial, and a bunch of cheap options.
 
Even if corona would be gone the damage from it has made my current/previous job a professional dead end :P.
 
user6568562
8:52 PM
However, if you'd like to impress employers, you better give them something to buy.
 
9:13 PM
How do you then respond to the "do you have experience in xyz"/"can you show the experience" question during interviews?
 
probably by telling the truth
 
Yeah but would people believe you on your blue eyes? It's also an annoying question and I am more inclined to answer that question in an essay about Dunning-Kruger.
... I need to work on my standard answers for standard questiosn.
 

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