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12:00 AM
@Dharman That's not a very good summary though :)
 
@Dharman It's bad practice to have unclear edit summaries, in case reviewers encounter a hard review to judge.
 
Yeah, but once it's there then there's nothing you can do other than ping the author and ask them kindly to provide better summaries in future
 
Next time I make an edit, I'll just put "Worsened post".
 
@Scratte I think that comment is system-generated on the review queue if you improve a suggested edit.
@Scratte LOL
 
12:03 AM
@bad_coder It's a suggested edit, made by < 2k
I'll try pinging them.
 
@10Rep Huh? How can that be a suggested edit?
 
@Scratte Less than 2k, :D. Making plenty of typos today
 
12:17 AM
 
Is this seeking recomendations? stackoverflow.com/q/64272153/12708583
 
Thanks.
 
Should I flag this or ask 20k to delete? stackoverflow.com/a/64254717/1839439
@10Rep Are you trying to save that answer?
 
No, I just edited out the unneeded part. I don't think it's fully salvageable, tbh.
 
1:06 AM
I feel so guilty if a get a tiny-vote on a comment while I edit it in the grace period. What if the one that tiny-voted don't agree with my edited comment? :(
 
@Scratte If you really feel guilty, you could always delete the comment and write it again from scratch...
 
@Nick This time I "rolled back" my edited and posted another one :)
 
That works too... :)
 
1:26 AM
"opposite of most". Not everyone picks the hard way for everything ;)
 
When do the tables of the SEDE queries update?
 
I think it's Sunday night or something like that. But I'm not sure.
 
1:45 AM
Yep, 2 revenge down votes.
 
2:21 AM
I can't decide which page should close the other based on answer quality... Should these questions be merged? stackoverflow.com/questions/1319903/… and stackoverflow.com/questions/526556/…
 
3:18 AM
@Nick anyway, your meta post I answered...If you hadn't been friendly to me I wouldn't have minded it. It was a chance to write something that's hopefully funny enough to be worth reading, while adding to the question. I'm not a fan of the principles the question based itself on, namely a strange kind of meritocracy that attempts to express distinction by establishing contrived rules. (Somehow I didn't expect you to write something on that basis.)
 
@bad_coder don't SO's reputation and badges imply a meritocracy? The reasoning behind my question was just to help the site get more value (in my perception) out of the flagging badges, as I don't consider flagging comments to improve the site as much as flagging posts.
 
@Nick essence of the question: was the post funny? :D And did it add an interesting angle?
 
@bad_coder I wouldn't have said "funny", definitely interesting and a useful alternate perspective.
 
@Nick ohh come on mate, where's your sportsmanship :D ?! That Kevin Spacey clip at the end was the bomb!!
 
yet another how to re-index an array question stackoverflow.com/q/64272537/2943403
 
3:37 AM
@bad_coder well, yeah, Kevin Spacey is funny! :)
@mickmackusa what do you want us to do with it? it won't be eligible for deletion for a couple of days...
 
it can become eligible before then, but I cannot say how make this occur.
 
@Nick I knew you had a heart :D Any guy who plants a vineyard appreciates the finer things in life, and knows how to abstract himself from the sludge that surrounds him. The mundane chores, arbitrary rules, and petty antagonizing arguments :D
 
@bad_coder beautifully put!
 
@Nick what's a put mate? You got me there, 3 letter hook punch at my insufficient vocabulary. Just exactly what kind of reduction was I just subjected to? Wait, let me check the dictionary :D
 
beautifully stated
 
3:46 AM
@Nick ohh it's a verb and a noun with a double contradictory sense. Craftful, exactly the kind of smart minimalism only natives master :D
 
@bad_coder ah, sorry about that - when you live in an English-speaking country you often forget what an impossibly difficult language it is for those who don't have it as their first language.
@bad_coder just the way I like to make my wine :)
 
@Nick Exactly. I was meaning to ask when do you harvest the grapes? I just finished my harvest a couple of weeks ago.
 
...before all of the marsupials eat them!
 
@bad_coder We're just at 4-5 leaves. Very wet spring so far so big problems with snails. So far a little ahead of normal so probably start picking late February for the whites.
@mickmackusa you may laugh but we actually have a huge problem with kangaroos eating grapes. They especially love Cabernet Sauvignon...
 
4:01 AM
I have a very small garden in the burbs of Brissie and the little marsupial rats eat EVERYTHING that the sun doesn't scorch to death. I have had a couple of black muscatel vines for several years now and I have yet to eat 1 grape off of them.
 
@mickmackusa Think of it as your contribution to preserving our native fauna and heritage.
 
@mickmackusa A good solution for that is letting the vine grow above 0.5meters and hanging the branches up on something. If you want the grapes for eating it's basically a garden plant so it should be watered like the other plants.
@Nick that's amazing, let me think 4-5 leaves would be sometime in March here depending on when the first warmth comes.
 
My sliver of land around the my house is too narrow to use properly, I've planted in a raised garden (which gets a steady stream of my compost) and run the two vines along some wire between star pickets. Effectly, they run tightly against a 4 metre high rockwall and the rodents live/play in the rock wall.
 
@bad_coder we're probably a bit cooler than you
 
@Nick Climate here is temperate Mediterranean with an Atlantic touch.
 
4:12 AM
We're also temperate Mediterranean, but at 350m elevation so around 3-4C cooler than sea-level on average
 
@mickmackusa the star pickets with the wire is the right choice. For the rodents getting a cat is a solution - that's guaranteed to solve the problem. Otherwise I honestly don't know, either put a net that somehow stops the rats from getting to the grapes or plant vines in some other spot away from the wall.
 
@bad_coder they're native rats and so protected...
 
@Nick 350m isn't bad at all. And if it's Mediterranean there's no better climate.
@Nick move the vines then (although it's generally considered "nature taking its course" to get a cat.)
 
...can't get a cat, they attack the awesome water dragons that I feed. I have a humane rat trap that gets lucky every once in a while. I catch and release them in distant bushland near a creek. @Nick
 
@bad_coder but all the cats are imported, so definitely not "nature taking its course"
 
4:20 AM
feral cats and camels are a problem in Oz.
 
@mickmackusa not sure if you noticed but that post is now eligible for deletion (and 2/3 of the way there)
 
I VTD already, need one more. Cheers.
 
@mickmackusa ok, that's the approach I would probably take in regards to the wild life. The technical solution if you want the grapes is getting something like this and make the branches grow away from the wall.
 
@Nick please review this answer: stackoverflow.com/a/64207327/2943403
 
@Nick Ok, problems with snails have 1 origin. The grass/weeds around the terrain. If your neighbor (or you) have some unplowed land that's where the snail breed and come from. If you plow it (or just get rid of the weeds) the snails should become manageable.
 
4:33 AM
@bad_coder Our entire vineyard is grassed. Unfortunately we didn't notice the snails breeding in Autumn and didn't get out bait when we should have.
 
@Nick Off course I couldn't afford to have my vineyard grassed...
 
@mickmackusa seems reasonable to me
 
@Nick bait?! Never heard of using bait for snails...That a novelty to me :D
 
@bad_coder trying to stop it being grassed is the problem here... :) snail bait is a wonderful thing, it has a huge attractant in it so the snails come down off the cordon to eat it and die!!!
Was I a bit OTT with the "die!!!"?
 
@Nick not my choice of words, but it's ok.
 
4:40 AM
@Nick ah good, then it is just a classic case of trollish no comment voting. Perhaps Stack Overflow should run a short campaign to educate people on how to vote properly. And stress that necro-answers are not inherently bad -- in fact they benefit researchers if the new answer is superior to other posts or contains otherwise valuable insights.
 
@Nick optimal solution is this: plow one half of the terrain once a year, mow the other half twice a year. That gets rid of the snails, let the soil breathe, and stops weeds from taking up nutrients, while letting insect live in the mowed part.
@mickmackusa I'm on the fence about giving a +1, don't know why...Something about SO changed my perspective on up votes. I haven't figured out yet how or why...
 
Maybe it is harder to neutralise a DV for someone who is perceived as rude at times. My stance is: If I see a provably correct answer (and I feel qualified to assess the technology in the question) which includes an explanation and adds something unique and valuable to the page (from you or anybody), but it has a negative vote tally -- I will be UVing it.
If it doesn't educate "me", then I am not compelled to raise it above 0, but negative vote tallys are very likely to bias unknowing researchers. So if you find yourself no-comment-DV'ed on a quality answer, let me know and I'll assess and potentially neutralise.
 
@Nick It also provides a nice carbon capture, since you let the weed grow before you mow it (twice). And OTOH, when the weed is long you cut it that way it doesn't suck up water and nutrients. I haven't researched in depth, but I'm convinced this kind of management keeps water retention at a surface near optimal.
@mickmackusa I hadn't thought about that. A metric of balance...
 
4:57 AM
I will not be St. Nick (Santa Clause) with UVs, but I am willing to be Mother Mary MacKillop: The Patron Saint of Abuse Victims.
 
@mickmackusa I know about mother Mary MacKillop, an Australian friend first told me about her.
 
Those of us in this room are very likely to be "aggressive content curators" and that too often draws the ire of malicious voters. I am very happy to defend those that are acting with the best intentions for this site.
 
hold on - technical break - regular up/down vote requests are not allowed in here, so presumably reverse up/down vote requests shouldn't be either?
 
@JohnDvorak The only thing that I am promising is an honest assessment of a post. I am also defining the behaviour that you can expect from me if I find a post to be unfairly abused and its negative tally is unmerited.
I will only be doing this where I am a SME -- namely, only on php posts. (caveat, there may be php posts that I am not qualified to assess)
 
@JohnDvorak No comment. I was having a conversation. Within the rules as far I know.
 
5:03 AM
Inversely, if I have a post with 30 upvotes and I get a no-comment-DV, I wouldn't be asking for an assessment because the vote tally is >= 0.
 
... wait, are you saying there exist PHP questions that deserve an upvote?
 
If someone asks me to review one of their negative tally posts and it is just a code-dump, then my feedback would be: "explain your answer" it is currently incomplete and some people DV code-only answers.
If an answer is negatively voted and the poster didn't realise that it is redundant on the page, then my response would be -- your answer doesn't add any new value to the page and it is rightly DVed.
 
@mickmackusa guys I enjoyed the conversation but it's late and I'm out of here. See you all around. Cheers.
 
Later @bad_coder
 
5:21 AM
@bad_coder good night!
 
 
7:10 AM
@mickmackusa What was the score on this question when you posted this message? [@Nick, you appear to have looked at it at that time. Do you remember what the total score was when you first looked at it after it was posted here? If so, what was it?]
 
Today I woke up to 5 notifications from here...
 
If it could apply when one Nick gets upvotes, the other one gets the same ;)
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@Nick Sorry. I should have remembered that your nick gets nicked too when I @nick.
 
waffle.
 
@RyanM Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]
 
7:25 AM
oh whoops.
 
@Makyen When I looked at it at first, I thought it was +1, but then when I looked at it again, it was at -2 with no record of an up-vote (i.e. it was +0/-2). So I decided I must have been confused...
@Vega what an excellent idea! :)
 
@Makyen Nah, don't worry about it, you were replying to someone else while essentially CC'ing Nick, can't expect you to write 2 separate messages every time you wanna do that (although I guess you're a mod now so you could use global ping)
@mickmackusa however.... did you know that you can reply directly to messages by clicking the curved arrow at the right hand side of a message you want to reply to? This will link them together and only ping the user that wrote it, even if they share names with someone else :P
 
@Nick That is an option which I had not considered. Super pings are generally thought of as a moderator tool, so I didn't put it in the context of using it for what I considered a standard notification... Hmmm...
 
ahhhh super ping, I couldn't remember the name, god ping and global ping came to mind, not super ping /shrug
 
Hi guys my profile is blocked I cant ask questions anymore. Because i had 2 question with bad voting. Thants to unfair
I dont know what to do
 
7:37 AM
@Shalomi11 how low did you manage to get those two questions?
Your profile lists two questions with negative score, but they definitely weren't the sole cause
 
It was detected as a duplicate @JohnDvorak but belive me it was not. I mean I had an other problem. I think SO is so hard I use it since 4 year and now I'm blocked
 
@Shalomi11 The "we are no longer accepting questions from this account" message you recently encountered is a question ban which is imposed by the system. Even moderators can't lift that system imposed ban. Please see What can I do when getting “We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account”? for more detail about question and answer bans and what you can do to get out of them.
 
@Shalomi11 your latest closed question was closed two years ago. You have been asking successfully after that.
... and that question doesn't even have negative score.
Only you can see questions that you have deleted, which is why I'm asking.
 
@Shalomi11 Saying that the issue is just 2 questions is disingenuous. You have 25 deleted questions, of those 11 have negative scores, and 5 of your deleted questions had an answer. That's way more than "2 question with bad voting".
 
I cant see my deleted questions
In the past 4 years
 
7:48 AM
You can see your recently deleted questions here.
 
Thnaks
Thanks
What do you think I should do?
The problem is that my posts were also deleted by others
 
@Shalomi11 Please see What can I do when getting “We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account”? for more detail about question and answer bans and what you can do to get out of them. I'm not just trying to fob you off onto something else. That question and answer have the best information available specifically for people in this situation.
 
Thank you @Makyen
 
@solid.py A del-pls is not valid on an open question. Please make a separate request once the question is actually eligible for a del-pls.
np. That's easier than binning the request and having you repost it. I also changed the link to be to the question, rather than your deleted answer. In general, it's helpful to link to the post on which you actually want the action taken.
@mickmackusa I should probably be a bit more straightforward. From the publicly available information, it appears you posted this message when that question was at a score of -1.
Your message and your subsequent messages make it appear that you knew, at the time you first posted a message about that question, that making a del-pls request about that question was against our rules and that you posted your non-del-pls message about it with the intent of getting around that rule. It feels like you were intentionally abusing the room in order to specifically get a response from people (downvotes) that our rules are explicitly intended to prevent.
Not having the room be a downvoting cabal is a high priority for us. Please don't do things which can be easily interpreted to be heading in that direction.
 
9:07 AM
^^ SD report: Nut sure about the link but it's at least NAA (asking new question(s))
 
9:19 AM
@Shalomi11 I'm not sure all your recent changes are improvements. Probably take a break and read the stackoverflow.com/help section and in particular How to ask and What topics can I ask about here
 
@Adriaan the user who suggested that edit might need to be put on Smokey's watchlist in case they try to spam post/edit again.
 
@Adriaan I watched their domain, but Smokey doesn't review comments or edit suggestions
 
@tripleee good enough I guess, thanks
 
9:41 AM
@Nick Thanks. I suspect you're remembering -1 as +1, as that's what it looks like to me the score was at the time the message was posted (and for many minutes afterward).
@Nick @mickmackusa @ArghyaSadhu I'm wondering why there was such a push to delete the above question so quickly? While it doesn't appear to be a stellar question, it also doesn't appear to be all that bad either.
The dup-target has a grand total of 6 other duplicates, so it doesn't appear that there are too many duplicates. OTOH, I do see that there appears to be a rats nest of PHP questions about reindexing arrays with dup-targets pointing at multiple different questions. So, it's possible there are other, more appropriate targets for the duplicate with more duplicates pointing to that hypothetical dup-target.
But, basically, I'm just not seeing a reason to be slamming so hard and rapidly on the downvote and delete buttons. IMO, doing that in this instance is bad for both the site and the question OP. For the site, we'll never know if the question would have made a good signpost for the dup-target. For the OP, having their first question rapidly downvoted and deleted both feels quite negative, and strongly pushes the OP towards a question ban.
If you're wanting to clean out duplicate questions, then please concentrate on older questions for deletion, preferably ones that have been closed as a duplicate for a long time with low views and low score where there are a large number of existing duplicates for the dup-target.
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10:02 AM
@Makyen You could probably ask the same question about many of the PHP questions that turn up here with a del-pls tag on them. To be honest I perhaps didn't pay enough attention to this particular question other than to note that yes, it was yet another duplicate of the same type that has come through a lot recently.
I didn't notice that OP was a new contributor and definitely didn't consider the possibility that this could set them up for a question ban. That was an oversight on my part which I will try to be more alert to in future.
 
@Nick Thanks. I appreciate that.
BTW: Life will be a bit better off for our scripts if I change the del-pls tag in your message to just del-pls in code format. Would you mind if I edit to make that change?
 
@Makyen np (to both)
 
10:42 AM
Room owner (@Makyen?) please change this request to typo error
 
10:58 AM
@tripleee yeah, I couldn't decide which red flag was more appropriate...
 
11:12 AM
@DavidBuck I wanted to upvote the first comment there but apparently it wasn't a reaction to the question
???????????????? — Pham Huy Giang Sep 15 at 2:10
 
@tripleee I thought it was a reaction at first, too. At least the answerer seemed to understand the question, even if they didn't actually answer it.
I'd like to nominate this for answer of the day stackoverflow.com/a/64278215
 
@DavidBuck agreed - bonus points for using the wrong effect/affect in a way that almost weirdly makes sense in the answer.
 
11:28 AM
@DavidBuck What answer? Are you seeing some kind of leak?
 
11:39 AM
German spam is the Wurst
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@DavidBuck rotfl
 
@DavidBuck reminds me of "Children are kind, but German children are always Kinder"
 
@Adriaan another good one...
 
11:55 AM
@Adriaan hmm, not an SME but I doubt it...the webserver's configuration may be relevant to CORS. I'm also not sure that it's especially useful to remove, unless you think it's unduly promoting a site engaging in spam: it might make sense to code-format some/all of the URLs, in that case.
 
@RyanM @Adriaan code-formatting the URLs seems like the best option, the answer wouldn't make sense if you changed the URL to example.com
 
Found at the end a question with a rambling, unclear explanation of what they're trying to do: "So, I think I explain perfectly."
Narrator voiceover in my head: "They did not, in fact, explain perfectly."
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This is a bad edit approval, right? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/22291539
 
@RyanM Doesn't make sense. The edit seemingly attempted to re-open the closed as duplicate question.
 
@RyanM <!-- End of automatically inserted text --> wut? Is that real? Never saw it.
 
@RyanM I don't think it makes any sense. Testing access to one host on the internet is pretty much the same thing as testing access to any host
 
12:03 PM
Both good points. I rolled it back.
 
Close enough for government work, anyway...
 
Morning
 
@MarcoBonelli it's the long-replaced system for duplicate closures
 
@NathanOliver could you get this one too? It was acted on, and then reopened after fixing.
 
12:05 PM
What the... It doesn't make any sense.
 
@MarcoBonelli Well it really doesn't make any sense without the suggestion that person deleted that I put back.
 
12:19 PM
I wish there was some way to reward reviewers/users that posted relevant comments on posts. It makes it so much easier to review when someone else has identified a problem that one can just check up on.
 
Why is this happening so often? stackoverflow.com/questions/64265323/…
 
Having just had an answer deleted as OP deleted the question just after I posted the answer, I'm kind of wondering what happens if I vote to undelete my answer (that option is available). Does that automatically vote to undelete the question too?
 
It should be blocked. You can't undelete an answer on deleted question
you can undelete the question though
 
@Dharman indeed you're right, that's exactly what the message says.
It seems the option shouldn't be there to begin with.
 
@Dharman It's just when people read too quickly. I see it a lot. P.S. You can delete your comment now. The user has removed theirs.
 
12:58 PM
@AmitJoshi it seems that question - although not great - actually has a potentially useful answer and so doesn't seem worth deleting.
 
@Nick Answer is opinion based and much vague. Question is correctly closed as Broad. One year old and 40 views. Not useful IMO.
 
@AmitJoshi agree to disagree... :)
 
@Scratte Worked like a charm: stackoverflow.com/questions/64265323/…
 
@Dharman Noooo! I even wrote a comment there explaining what to look for :(
 
@Dharman No good deed goes unpunished...
 
1:09 PM
I don't even understand the reasoning.. I'd just take it and print it to my console with and without that method just to see if there's a difference.
"Try to input 'I will NOT bother Dharman again' and then print the variable with .lower() to your console" ;-)
 
Does anyone know if this is rude? stackoverflow.com/questions/64178242/…
 
@Dharman I just flagged it as such
 
@Dharman It doesn't seem rude to me, just NAA.
 
@cigien It's close enough to an answer of asdfasdfasdfasdfasdf that I considered it a deliberate garbage post.
 
@DavidBuck Oh, I thought the R/A flag was only for a post that is actually rude/abusive. I'm not sure who would take offense at asdfasdfasdf, not counting the users in this room ;).
 
3:05 PM
@cigien R/A also covers "inappropriate for respectful discourse". I think it's well established that a post that looks like your cat has walked across your keyboard qualifies as R/A
 
@DavidBuck Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification :) I'll take that into account when flagging.
 
@cigien Posting gibberish like "asdfasdfasdf" is an abuse of SO's resources and the community (wasting our time, flags etc.). That's why you can flag them as R/A, too (bonus point: it gets deleted even quicker). Just be careful in case it might be a foreign language in which case VLQ or NAA are more appropriate.
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@JeanneDark For that answer, it was in a foreign language, but basically gibberish in that language as well. So R/A is still appropriate, right?
 
3:21 PM
@cigien I went with VLQ. But R/A is justifiable (I even wondered if it might be no-link spam (that attorney part)).
 
3:40 PM
 
3:51 PM
@cigien Gibberish can be red flagged
 
4:09 PM
@Machavity That's a very helpful link, thank you.
 
@10Rep Seems you reached it 7 flags ago. If you have strictly less than 5 declined flags, you're a Gold flagger as per Samuel's userscript.
 
I have 7 declined flags....
How many declined do you have?
 
@10Rep I see. Then you're a Silver flagger, and you need another 407 flags to make Gold.
 
15 total out of 1Ki2
 
I have 1300 helpful flags, 9 declined. I just want a cookie.
 
5:28 PM
on SO
/me suddenly feels like a loser :P
 
@JohnDvorak That's still pretty good. Anything above a 96% helpful flag rate is pretty good.
 
But.. don't despair. I once saw Samuel note that they are a Silver themself :)
 
How does that userscript work? I've enabled it, but it doesn't seem to do anything different.
 
@10Rep Have you noticed a little flag on your profile next to your username?
@JohnDvorak what the i?
 
@Scratte Yup, just noticed it :D
 
5:34 PM
As opposed to 1k, which is 24 less
 
@10Rep If you hover over it, it will give you your status and some statistics, including your accuracy.
@JohnDvorak Wait what?.. that's a notation I've never seen before. Does that say 1024? How would you use that to say 1025? :)
 
1025 is just 1ki1
 
Hooray for powers of 2
 
It says I have 1032 flags, which is more than I actually do. What's with that?
 
5:38 PM
@JohnDvorak ?!?.. lower case and one less makes it one more?
 
ah, I meant 1Ki1. Sorry.
 
@10Rep It doesn't care for your helpful flags. It cares for your total post flags. Including disputed and retracted. But comment and red flags don't count for the script.
 
So disputed flags count as helpful?
 
@JohnDvorak Still one less..
 
1Ki is 24 less than 1k, not 1Ki2
 
5:41 PM
@10Rep No. It's measuring your total post flags against your declined ones. It's not about any one of those being helpful or not :)
 
I see... that's a lot more accurate.
 
@JohnDvorak OK. That does Ki mean? What does it stand for? :)
 
Apparently I'm a "hmmmm flagger" on meta.
 
It's a shorthand notation for a kibi-.
 
Yeah.. I like my 100% accuracy on meta. Though I've only ever flagged one post there :D
 
5:43 PM
Likewise, Mi would be mibi- and Gi would be gibi-.
 
I've flagged 27 posts, with 4 declined on meta... makes sense tbh.
 
For further information, please refer to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
 
@JohnDvorak Thanks. How it's starting to make sense :) Did find a lot of information from Kibi :D
The only issue with those it that the hardware industry seem to be using the decimal k, M, G and T
 
I'm going to become a gold flagger here... by having 4 tabs open. 3 with chatrooms, and one with a special filter of closable posts.
 
errorneously - or to mean decimal prefixes, hoping they would be misinterpreted as binary ones
 
5:48 PM
@10Rep That's not how I did it. I flagged NAAs. I started with the Late Answer review queue. And I didn't flag anything and everything. Keeping your declined low is key here. So I read the post and evaluated every one :)
 
@Scratte NAA's are a recent discovery of mine
And plus, it's rare to have a close flag to be declined :)
 
@JohnDvorak In my opinion, it's cheating. I buy a teraByte disk, I go home and it's not a teraByte on my computer! :D
 
It is a terabyte. That you expected it to actually be a tebibyte drive... common mistake, but do be wary.
 
@10Rep I don't think so. Ask meta and users in here about that :)
 
I can't find my close flags in the pile of NAA's I've flagged now. Perhaps I've just never had one declined.
 
5:54 PM
@JohnDvorak You mean it was a mistake to email them an explain that some of those bytes must have been lost in production? :D
 
Ok, I need help. Is this NAA? stackoverflow.com/a/64277976/12708583
Seems like it should be a comment to me
 
@10Rep You can click the categories. If you want a list of your declined flags, just click on that
 
I know, I've checked, and I have 0 close flags declined.
But 56 have aged away :D
 
@10Rep I would probably have linked to the tour to explain to them how the site works. And also commented to the fact that one isn't suppose to have a discussion but post only answers in the Answer box. I'm not sure they will understand how it works from the comment already there.
But if they want to, they can click the links in there, and they will learn :)
 
I linked them to tour. Didn't think it was appropriate to explain how to ask the question yet, since they might again ask it in the comments.
 
6:05 PM
I don't think that Question is fine tough. Isn't that a mixture of not very focused and asking for off-site resources and.. needing details as per the comment/answer?
 
it's not really a question, its saying, "I can do this for you". So I don't want them to ask that, either.
 
@10Rep I'm not referring to the Answer. I'm looking up.. at the Question :D
I'm not even sure it's practical programming question.
 
I flagged it as Needs More Focus.... seems unrelated to programming as welel
 
I flagged it as "Needs details and clarity" due to the tag :) It's like just using the "facebook" tag.
I can see it was properly reviewed by one of our lovely regulars :) and spent 4 days in the close vote queue without getting any attention.
 
6:22 PM
lol! Someone put an url in a comment as a "clarification". Only.. it's to localhost :)
 
So it won't work for others, correct?
 
No. It won't :) It's going to their own system. If I go to that url, my system will take me to mine :)
 
6:43 PM
 
6:58 PM
@10Rep yes
 
Yeah, just wanted to be sure.
 
Say you DV a question that's meanwhile deleted, do you get the rep back? And when?
 
@bad_coder Yes ... its normally within a few minutes.
 
@bad_coder I've had it take several hours to get the rep back at times.
 
I assume you mean "answer," in which case yeah, seems to depend but often a while. See After I downvoted an answer, the answer was deleted. However, my reputation wasn't refunded
 
7:19 PM
@RyanM yes that's what I wanted to say, an answer. Thanks guys.
 
7:30 PM
 
7:54 PM
I missed Vinyl Friday :(
 
I didn't although I was in the car for the commute home
 
I can listen to it now, but I haven't been able to find a way to see the video other than live.
 
Yeah, the live stream is not saved AFAIK
 
8:10 PM
I've also found that some of the shows are cheating. Like the one that's "live" now is just some image..
 
yeah, that is because Rob Stenders is using his home studio and to save bandwidth they have no video feed.
 
You know everything :-) I guess it helps to speak the language.
 
In Vinyl Friday they sometimes "cheat" if they don't have vinyl record that is requested in the studio then they connect to Rob who fetches the vinyl record from his archive and plays it from his studio.
Yeah, it doesn't translate well for an international audience ;)
 
what is vinyl friday
 
I was about to ask
 
8:17 PM
a transylvanian's last day alive coinciding with the end of the workweek?
 
I've been cheating too. Playing it in a tab, that I'm not watching.
 
probably the day when you go to work in your PVC clothes
 
@AndrasDeak we actually just put in a bay window and took the opportunity to replace our vinyl siding with hardie plank (fiber cement) siding
much more robust than vinyl
 
More confusing words!
 
@TylerH dutch radio show where they play Vinyl records instead of from a computer : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record
 
8:19 PM
It's Dutch radio playing actual vinyl every friday between 18:00 and 20:00 CET
lol! Nice touch on the link to explain what vinyl is :D
 
Yeah, better get the facts right ...
 
Somehow, the more common (and technically correct) acronym, "PVC" seems less 'with it' than "vinyl" - which is an obsolete term for the ethenyl radical: -CH=CH2.
 
Are you flaunting your chemistry knowledge? I have no idea what you just said, so I'm naturally very impressed :)
 
8:49 PM
@rene ah
@YagizcanDegirmenci Hi, is this a cv-pls request?
 
@Scratte I was thinking of taking up activity on Chemistry.SE ... but over there, they'd call me out on my flawed expertise. ;-)
 
It's better to drink the chemistry anyway :)
 
9:10 PM
@YagizcanDegirmenci You've linked to a comment, and not stated what you want done. The implication is that you think the question should be closed, but it's not 100% clear that's what you want (i.e. we have to guess; it might be a good guess, but it's a guess). Please see How and why do I need to format my cv-pls (and other requests)? in our FAQ for how we format requests here in SOCVR.
 
It appears that somebody has just cleared out almost all the comments in the "AutoReviewComments" script. There was an orange banner saying READ THIS and, when I close that, only about 5 or 6 comments are left. I was looking for the "Code Only" response and it's gone.
 
Question for the group, asking "for a friend". A cv-pls has a bounty on it, but is apparently a duplicate. No answers (yet). I think that's been discussed here before regarding bounty refunding etc. Is it preferred to let the bounty run out? I expect at some point someone will visit the dupe, copy the answer, and earn the bounty.
 
@DanielWiddis How long has the bounty been running?
 
@AdrianMole guess who made the last commit ;)
 
@AndrasDeak Dunno - who?
 
9:14 PM
 
@NathanOliver I saw 6 days left, so... 1 day
 
In the form of a riddle: bouquet, photosynthesis, blur
 
@DanielWiddis You might get a mod to refund the bounty but it depends on how long it takes for the mod flag to get handled. I think SOP is to just let the bounty run its course and close and/or delete afterwards.
 
@NathanOliver Here is the cv-pls. I haven't yet actually researched the dupe to see if it's actually a dupe yet, just was curious as to the correct approach.
 
Is it considered a conflict of interests for the purpose of room rules if the dupe target I'm suggesting is a question I answered?
 
9:16 PM
No
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica It's not, I had that question before.
 
@AndrasDeak heh - I can see the GitHub for the script itself but I have forgotten the link to the comment database.
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I actually requested my cv-pls be cancelled but was told that was unnecessary
 
@AdrianMole but I don't see a recent change, especially not a brutal one, so perhaps it wasn't the right repo
 
@AndrasDeak Indeed - no obvious change in the script ... just the comment repo.
 
9:19 PM
@AdrianMole I checked the comment repo. A comment repo.
 
Ack just got scooped by someone with Mjolnir. They used my dupe target though.
 
[insert Kronk poison meme]
 
I think I just lost the link to the comments database (I cleared out my cookies and stuff today). I'm now doing a new "auto get" ... hopefully, that will fix it.
 
9:35 PM
@AdrianMole Where can one find that script?
 
@Scratte Start here
 
@AdrianMole Oh dear.. a user script that need to be built?!? Using the JDK..
 
I didn't do any building ... there's probably a ready-to-run version linked in that post, somewhere.
... but now, I can't find the URL for the standard database of comments.
 
@AdrianMole this one?
 
I think that's it but it's not working as a URL for the "get now" command (parsererror in angry red text).
 
9:47 PM
@NathanOliver so I did just peek at the proposed dupes and it's not obvious to me. If someone can translate whatever's supposed to be duplicate into an answer for the bounty, more power to them! :)
 
I think this is the user script I had a plan to modify, so that one can append different canned comments.
 
I don't use the script myself, so I couldn't say :-) I have a text file full of comments.
 
@RyanM Me too.. :( It would be easier for me to have them in a user script though. But I mix and match the ones I have, so I'd like an append option.
@AdrianMole In your console or in the user script manager? Or am I missing something about a user interface button?
 
In the user script interface: There's an edit box in which to type a URL of a comments database and then a "get now" button. It did work once.
 
@AdrianMole Maybe you need to import them individually, not the entire repository
 
9:52 PM
No - There's a way (I had it running until I cleared out my browser history) where you auto-link to the online list of comments.
 
it may be the "raw" link in the file ...but that would be each individual file, not the whole repo, hmm
not sure!
 
Here's a typical screenshot: i.stack.imgur.com/jDHkK.png
 
Yeah.. that would also not work very well with my usage, since I clear my cache every time I restart my browser. Localstorage would be gone every time.
@AdrianMole Nice username :)
 
Heh - Hadn't actually noticed, just opened a random post to get the box popped up.
 
I just realized a feature I want. I would like to use my SO rep to put a bounty on another SE site.
 
9:59 PM
@klutt IIRC that's been requested, it's somewhere on MSE. the tl;dr of the general sentiment was that the influx of rep from larger sites could distort the reputation on smaller sites.
Though I find it much easier to gain rep outside of SO, personally :-p
It would also make it much harder to police voting fraud using bounties, since most moderators could only see one side of things
 
@RyanM Did you try MathOverflow? :D
 
@Scratte I suspect I would have a harder time earning rep there, as I am not a particularly knowledgeable mathematician :-p
I'm a much better fake paralegal than I am a fake mathematician.
 
@RyanM I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to get reputation on any other site. Except maybe Home Improvement.. My only real problem is the naming of things there. I'm not used to English names of tools and stuff.
 
The smaller sites make it far easier to get into Hot Network Questions, where I should have an answer in...just over 4 hours.
 
@RyanM Those are pretty good arguments. But it's annoying for me atm. :)
 
@TylerH yes it's was a CV request, unfortunately, I pasted the wrong URL.
 
Why does a userscript that post canned comments need all that information about a user? It seems to be making ajax calls to the API.
 
It shows a summary of the user at the top of the popup - which is potentially useful when choosing which comment to add, or whether or not to edit that comment (adding "Welcome To Stack Overflow" for new users, e.g., which is sometimes automatically added).
 
@AdrianMole I see. I never do that. If the user turns out to become the next 1 million "repper", it'll just look silly anyway. And when I'm explaining to them that they need to improve (or their post is removed) if kind of feels a little... maybe less welcoming :)
 
@DanielWiddis If you feel the question should be closed and there's a bounty, raise a flag. Moderators will then evaluate. A duplicate close is going to be harder to handle, because it commonly needs more technical knowledge in the area the question is asking about, which any particular moderator may or may not have. The moderators may choose to let the bounty run, or may choose to refund it. If it's close to the start of the bounty and there are no answers, then refunding is much more likely.
 
10:20 PM
@Scratte I think that place is already booked: VonC, I reckon.
 
@AdrianMole One never knows. I may be a sock of someone high on the list :D
But on the topic of calling the API, I think it would be nice if that could be turned off. Some users are hitting their API limits sometimes.
 
@Makyen Thanks, Makyen. I looked at the proposed dupes and do not have enough technical knowledge to know whether they answer the question, so at this point I'm staying uninvolved. However that answer is good for future events.
 
@desertnaut Yikes. I hope the user eventually stopped/was stopped?
 
10:36 PM
@DanielWiddis I think you may have selected the wrong duplicate target on stackoverflow.com/questions/64248169/… - I'm not really sure how that's related
 
@RyanM Okie.Maybe I copypasted wrong link.
CV retracted.
 
I think the other suggested dupe in the comments is also incorrect, FWIW
 
Sometimes when you're exploring multiple options your ctrl-C misfires. :)
 
^ Spam
 
@DanielWiddis Happens to the best of us :-) figured that was what happened and thought you might want a heads-up
 
@10Rep for some reason, that doesn't seem to be highlighting a message for me...
@10Rep hmm, that duplicate doesn't seem exactly on point. The issue, if I'm understanding correctly with no tkinter knowledge, seems to be that they forgot the self, which the answer doesn't specifically address. (please correct me if I'm misunderstanding)
 
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