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2:07 AM
!info
 
Unknown command '!info'
 
@MwBakker Mirror, maybe, antenna, maybe not - I've got a $80 chinese knockoff, so very fine stuff just comes out as a ball of filament
 
 
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3:09 AM
SONU SOURAV requested access. Rep: 371 - Questions: 5 - Answers: 10 (ratio 4:8)
 
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3:41 AM
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4:54 AM
Good morning everyone. :)
@IvanMilisavljevic, A very happy b'day. :)
 
 
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7:15 AM
\o
 
morning
 
eli
[ Hi ]
 
7:33 AM
o/
 
8:03 AM
Mihir Agarwal requested access. Rep: 21 - Questions: 1 - Answers: 0 (ratio 4:0)
 
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@MihirAgarwal you currently do not meet the requirements to chat here. You can find our requirements in the rules.
 
8:27 AM
o/
 
Greetings, people-who-don't-have-3d-printers
 
eli
lie
 
8:56 AM
o/
@RaghavSood do you?
 
I do
 
1) is it good?
2) prove it! :D
 
It's pretty decent
Making some upgrades along the way, but I can get print resolution to the point where I can print interlocking stuff that actually interlocks
 
9:11 AM
neat
 
how do you do the cleanup? acid, sandblast?
 
It's come a long way from Friday (left coin)
The blue stuff is painters tape, just rip it off and put down fresh ones
 
awesome level of detail on the right one
most homemades i've seen stay at left quality
 
Improved since then too
 
9:15 AM
how about speed and print fiber cost?
 
That's one of the newer ones, detailed enough to print whiskers/nose/eyes on the face
Speed is not too high - the cat took about an hour, the coin took about 20 minutes
The filament is pretty cheap 33 SGD for 1kg spools - you can print quite a bit
1kg is about 325 meters - or about 290 cats
 
nice
now sell them
keychains
 
o/
 
SGD?
south Gondor Dollar?
2
 
9:27 AM
maybe
 
@RaghavSood do you still use hangouts?
 
9:59 AM
I do
!reject
Hmmmm
Looks like the bot randomly encounters read timeouts
 
Online since 07-05-2020 02:46 (UTC). Running on develop@355b70d. Uptime: 0h
 
o/
 
10:16 AM
@RaghavSood a quick / dirty fix for network timeout gist.github.com/MehdiFal/27689ba484a31d3742d4bc301281aea6
 
Looks complex, I'll just set a cronjob to restart it every 3 hours
 
the method on that gist is already there, on that module.kt, just replace its content
 
10:39 AM
i know its a linux question but still i want to ask ,can somebody please tell what this -C stands for in following : sudo tar -xzf ideaIU.tar.gz -C /opt
what will happen if i dont use it
 
> "-C dir": When this option is specified, tar will change its current directory to dir before performing any operations
that was a 0 research question, Shashi :D
 
@Shashi you will create mustard gas, don't do it
 
10:55 AM
Apology for my silly question though I have searched but couldn't found explanations for specific use of -C , but thank you so much for responding
 
no need to apologise lol
 
11:07 AM
@Shashi man <command> will show fairly detailed help pages for most linux cli commands
 
@RaghavSood Thank you for helping :)
 
@Mehdi oh good this will save me some time in the future
 
I have a question which directory I should go for flutter installation /opt/ or any other ? any recommendations ?
 
11:23 AM
hey everyone
 
Alex Cohn requested access. Rep: 48788 - Questions: 33 - Answers: 2066 (ratio 4:250.4)
 
@Mehdi haha immediatly followed by an apology "your code still matters too"
 
!accept
 
@AlexCohn welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
 
@Shashi I put it under my $HOME, and it worked fine. Make sure that there are no spaces in your $HOME path.
 
11:30 AM
@Shashi best avoid pinging rest all good and no need to apologize for not knowing the command
 
@AlexCohn Actually I extracted it in /opt/ so should I move it to home or its ok to be there at /opt/ .actually I have installed idea ,eclipse, vagrant there already
 
when not required*
 
oh ok ,pinging only when responding to a response for my query . will avoid unnecessary pinging .
 
yes good
 
11:32 AM
@Shashi If you like to keep your tools in /opt, let it be it. On some machines, writing to /opt would require sudo, but this is all configurable
 
@AlexCohn can you read the rules?
 
@AlexCohn I am actually single user of my machine so hope it will be good . I actually got suggested by someone that for third part tools its better to go for /opt/ directory that's why . My intention was to have safest installation by every means . thank you for helping :)
 
11:49 AM
guyzzz
what would a "detailed product review for an app" contain?
 
12:06 PM
Oh, sorry, #6: I have read and understood the rules. Yes.
 
Thank you & Welcome! :)
 
12:17 PM
Since he read them, but after a delay, I propose we throw out 1/8th of Alex instead of all of him
Anyone seen the saw?
 
Tim
would you accept a rename to "Alex Coh"?
 
I can live with Ale Co and monthly deliveries of ale
 
Tim
I would like to test some samples first
 
🚨🚨🚨
 
that's the sound of the police
 
Tim
12:45 PM
I just ate leftover spareribs for lunch
god bless corona
 
i've had more cooking injuries in these past 2 months than I had in my entire life :D
 
lol
 
1:02 PM
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gioravered requested access. Rep: 586 - Questions: 22 - Answers: 10 (ratio 4:1.8)
 
!reject
 
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1:18 PM
random greeting not related to frog sounds
how's everything going?
 
@RaymondArteaga All sounds made by you are technically frog sounds
Therefore, you must be silent
Forever
 
go away Raghav -_-
you and your Volcanic logic
 
then try the vocals of the link I just posted
 
1:37 PM
Buenos Dias
 
2:05 PM
Buenos dias oso blancuso
 
2:21 PM
Um... yes
 
morn o/
 
@Graeme yes? are you sure?
 
No
 
Eklavya requested access. Rep: 3696 - Questions: 7 - Answers: 244 (ratio 4:139.4)
 
2:36 PM
Why not!? :(
Quisiera exprimir la coprofagia entomologicamente :(
 
Are you saying something about corpses?
 
2:56 PM
Of course not -_-
 
Question, is it normal for my service layer to have a bunch of proxies to my data layer?
class TeamService {
    static getAllTeams(){
        return TeamModel.getAllTeams();
    }
    static getTeamsLeft(){
        return TeamModel.getTeamsLeft();
    }
Many of my service methods are not like that, but some are.
 
TeamModel.getAllTeams() seems to have the same access level as getAllTeams()... so that looks like a nonsense
 
?
 
If you are on MyWonderfulClass.java, you can seamlessly call TeamModel.getAllTeams() or TeamService.getAllTeams() so that proxy has no sense
 
yes but i thought controllers shouldn't call db access layer directly, they should go through srevice layer
 
3:04 PM
then force it
 
huh?
 
that's what encapsulation is for
nevermind, I just hate static stuff
it just gives me the willies
 
why don't you like static methods? how do you think it should be done?
 
What I think is irrelevant, you should ask Raghav
 
Is it possible to get a Fragment from a View?
 
3:11 PM
Yes.
 
Tim
3:32 PM
@JBis this means your service layer is redundant
 
@Tim So I should eliminate it?
 
Tim
sometimes it can be ok, but sometimes it is a sign of overengineering
 
I do have many instances where I don't do that. For example:
UserService:
 static async signIn(email: string, inputPassword: string): Promise<string> {
        const passwordHash = await UserModel.getPassword({email: email});
        if (!passwordHash) {
            throw 'Could not find user';
        }
        const authed = await bcrypt.compare(inputPassword, passwordHash);
        if(!authed){
            throw 'Invalid Password'
        }
        const user = await UserModel.getUser({email: email});
        return await this.generateToken(user.id);
    }
What do you think?
 
Tim
I think it's odd that signIn returns a token, and that expected outcomes are represented as exceptions
 
heya o/
 
3:40 PM
how exactly that authentication works, I'm curious
what is this: UserModel.getPassword()
??
 
@Tim Its not really an exception. It a promise rejection (notice the "async"). Which makes sense because the sign in failed. It returns a token so that the controller can use it to set a token. I could do this directly in the controller layer however.
@RaymondArteaga it gets the password hash for the user
 
that's a retrofit call I guess, right?
 
wdym?
 
Tim
idk man I see a throw there
 
Just curiosity :shrug:
 
Tim
3:41 PM
what is that if not an exception
 
idk what "retrofit call" means
 
nevermind
 
Tim
@RaymondArteaga nice man you just killed a cat
 
what?
I'm unable to process that reference Tim, can you please provide more details?
Oh no! That's NSFW!
i just searched it in the urban dictionary!
 
@Tim how do you think it should be handled?
 
3:45 PM
How's that related to the current conversation?
 
Tim
exceptions should only be used for exceptional (unexpected) scenarios.
 
You would return an error message right?
return 'Could not find user';
 
Tim
I would return a state that represents what happened, and let the caller decide what to do with it
your service can not decide what the error message should be, that is up to the presentation layer
my opinion
 
I agree
Thats what i am doing:
 
Please Tim, can you give me an explanation after you finish with JBis? I want to know the english language in a better way. How's "killing a cat" related to saying : "Just curiosity :shrug:", this is a serious question, please dont ignore me :(
 
3:49 PM
UserService.signIn(req.body.email, req.body.password)
         .then((token) => {
            res.status(200);
            CookieSetter(req, res, "token", token);
            res.json({error: null})
        })
        .catch(err => {
            res.status(401).json({error: "Invalid Email or Password"})
        });
 
I think the status should always be there, and a message would also be nice to be there, in case the caller doesn't wanna customise the error and consume it / display it as is (useful for systems with tons of states)
 
then handles the success, catch handles the err
 
Tim
@RaymondArteaga the saying "curiousity killed the cat"
you're not a backend, you shouldn't be using http status codes to represent the result
 
Oh, then it wasn't a NSFW reference then! Ok! Thanks
 
would status be an enum like AuthStatus.USER_NOT_FOUND, AuthStatus.INCORRECT_PASSWORD?
@Tim the sign in procedure is in the backend
 
3:51 PM
Youtube has been nice to me today: youtube.com/watch?v=3OC2aPCuzjo
 
Tim
I did not know you were showing us nodejs (?) code
thought it was some layer in your website
 
yeah thats nodejs
(if you are wondering why i am asking about node in the android room, i am asking more design questions that are mostly language agnostic. Y'all seem to have a better handle on classic programming paradigms than most js devs.)
 
Tim
that's fine, no RO here to ban you for writing in the unholy language
 
:)
do i get at least some credit for use typescript?
 
Tim
like spraying gold paint on a turd
4
 
4:07 PM
@bluetoothfx Death Coming!
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Day Everyone!!!!! :D
 
@Tim hahahaha
 
4:20 PM
I thought it was android code at first glance :lol: I'm so stupid
I confused the async with the suspend XD
mixing languages is going to kill me some day
@JBis I take back all the stupidities I said before, please ignore me
 
thats how far we've come as a language, you can't even tell us apart from your own
 
Seems that Madagascar found the cure for covid.
 
can someone please resolve this query ?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61732716/android-sdk-toolsobsolete-for-flutter-not-found-in-android-studio-3-6-3
 
4:43 PM
@Chulo does it actually work?
 
4:53 PM
@Mehdi Madagascar president said yes. but in the meantime, some medical laboratories don't prove it.
the presedent interview with France24 was a lill funny because every time the president said that the medicine will not be proven because it's from Africa.
 
what about test results? did they release any?
nvm, I should be able to google it :D
 
he said that the result is good. but I didn't catch the details (number of people cured, ...)
 
Tim
I don't mean to offend and also did not check the news, but if country A says it has found a cure, then the president of country A is not a credible source to confirm it
 
@Mehdi here is the interview link france24.com/fr/afrique/… (french content)
@Tim welcome to Africa xD
 
Tim
:)
 
5:07 PM
timmmmy
@W0MP3R lol didnt realize its a game , i thought covid hitting him hard
 
noooooo >.<
 
@Tim xD
sup womp?
 
@Chulo I don't understand why does a president explain medical stuff? (5min in and still no fact presented) :D
 
what I'm positive about is the fact that the cure is vegetable medicine
 
Tim
my app required access_coarse_location permission in the past, but now it requires access_fine_location permission. I updated the permission request, but it does not get triggered. Any clue how I can make it?
so the app thinks it has location permission already, but it is the wrong type
 
5:18 PM
just reinstall the app
are you asking for prod?
 
@Mehdi no idea :=(
 
Tim
yes without reinstalling the app lol
I fixed it already
 
5:38 PM
@Chulo well hope it works, at this stage I think we just want something that works :D
 
@Mehdi Indeed, I hope too :D
 
anything that works but that doesn't destroy the whole organism along with the covid XD
 
hahaha
 
jyo srijyo requested access. Rep: 23 - Questions: 6 - Answers: 0 (ratio 4:0)
 
5:56 PM
user image
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o/
 
!reject
 
@jyosrijyo you currently do not meet the requirements to chat here. You can find our requirements in the rules.
 
anyone else get random invite from that guy?
 
Sometimes we do
 
6:02 PM
@JBis yes had to tell him I'm straight multiple times
how is everyone doing?
 
i'm a bit nervous, got a big test soon
can't study for it really, just got do well
 
maybe you can do some workout it could get off some of those nerves
 
jyo srijyo requested access. Rep: 23 - Questions: 6 - Answers: 0 (ratio 4:0)
 
yeah not a bad idea
 
@jyosrijyo you don't meet the requirements - you don't have 80 rep, and your Q:A ratio is 6:0, both of which disqualify you. You won't be able to talk here until you fix that, and if you request again I'll add you to the ban list.
!reject
 
6:09 PM
@jyosrijyo you currently do not meet the requirements to chat here. You can find our requirements in the rules.
 
6:20 PM
@Tim revoke it i guess?
nice btw
 
6:35 PM
It makes me wonder if language is the problem, that they don't understand the rules or why they're being rejected. But if that's the case how could they ask and receive technical answers?
 
6:56 PM
some people don't think the rules should apply to them
 
@Tim how?
 
7:11 PM
adios people o/
 
o/
 
\o
 
cya
@Ahmad and @Mauker today's Orbital is the two-part song "Nothing Left"
 
7:33 PM
And yes, it's a 16 minute song
 
7:46 PM
16 mins wow
 
Oh, and Carl - Do we have beef?
 
I don't know how to interpret your question
 
I can't think of a more fun way to ask it
 
beef as in, do the grocery stores currently carry it in my locale, or beef as in a dispute
 
Dispute!
Are you upset with me?
 
7:51 PM
nope
I'm somewhat shocked by your ignorance of certain political issues, but not upset
 
I'm not sure disagreeing with the way you see things fall's under ignorance... but sure :) Okay, just checking
 
well, I mean.. are you aware of the #meToo movement?
do you know what it's about, how it started, etc?
 
I am
And yes I do
 
that the central ideas behind it are that women generally go through a lot of trauma just to accuse their perpetrator
and that you should generally take the approach of believing them instead of forcing them to "prove it"
these are ideas that you didn't seem aware of on my FB post
 
I understand that's what it's about
Nope, understand fully
 
7:56 PM
do you... disagree with them?
 
I think it's a complicated issue
And I agree with a lot of it and empathize with the rest
 
my main point is that people who followed the advice when it came to Bret Cavanaugh, the republican Supreme court nominee, didn't do so when it came to Biden
> Several of the most vocal Democratic advocates against sexual assault have come forward to support Biden, providing him with cover against these allegations. This includes Kirsten Gillibrand, who ran against Biden in the primary and was the first Democrat in the U.S. Senate to call for Al Franken’s resignation after assault allegations were made against him.
It's these people who are effectively silencing Biden's accuser and are being hypocrits
 
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