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Dan
12:00 AM
The portion about the array merge seems abundantly clear. His follow up questions are not
 
The problem with follow-up questions is that it often shows that it's not even clear to OP what they want, let alone trying to get it across to others. To me, it looks like they want to do a zip and a join of each sublist
But then: "How can I show these in blade with pagination?" is far too broad, there are countless ways to "show" data, and then "Can I show all in one query?How?", have they made any attempt at trying to come up with a query themselves, or even thought about the possible steps even if they haven't tried implementing it?
It screams TB to me, rather than unclear
 
First, I was afraid of questions being infected with COVID-19. Now you're saying I have to worry about tuberculosis, too?!
 
^^"
I gather you got my message Cody, the support is much appreciated o7
 
Dan
The follow-up is broad, I agree. On the other hand, maybe he's looking for a broad answer too, like, "You just loop over them", etc. Or "No, you can't." Maybe that's enough for this to be unsalvageable. In that case, 50% of the questions on SO are probably unsalvageable though
 
@Dan That crosses over into the philosophy of the site... are we here to teach how to program? Or are we here to provide answers to specific programming questions? I vote the latter
 
Dan
12:06 AM
Well, those two are often intertwined. But it's a good question
 
Often one will be taught by getting the solution to a specific programming question, but at the root level, we're not teachers, we're answerers
 
Dan
So without the follow-up how, would this question have been ok?
 
@Nick I did. Another mod pinged me about it, just to make sure I saw it, since I am not always good about going through my inbox. I was surprised to see how generic you made it, so I decided to respond by disclosing my true identity.
 
I was fairly certain it was you, I even asked (likely the mod who pinged you) to verify, but I didn't want any names in chat, for the benefit of the doubt, it was directed to you
@Dan If by follow up you mean edit that added the part on the merging of the arrays, I think had the question just been that, it would've been more on track to being opened if that were the whole question without the 2 open ended questions after IMO
 
Oh, I didn't know you spoke to another mod about it. All moderator messages (sent and received) actually go to a global inbox that all moderators can see. I figured they just saw it there.
 
Dan
12:13 AM
Alright. Thanks for the discussion guys
 
@Dan Yeah, I'll grant this is a bit of an edge case. Were you actually banned for that review?
 
Dan
Yes
 
@CodyGray Check the comments on the meta post in question, you should know the post I mean, there's a now deleted reply to me asking about who submitted the mod message (as i understood it, the one who sends the message gets an inbox notification on reply, and other mods can go and access it if they choose, but aren't "pinged" about it)
(And i wanted to clarify who would get pinged about the response before I sent it)
 
@Nick That's correct. The mod who sent the message originally gets direct pings about it. Which go to the inbox and appear as the Red Badge of Courage Numbers. Which I don't ever check because ain't nobody got time for that.
 
Fair ^^", I'm glad you got to read it though
 
12:16 AM
I was kind of surprised to see the response so late. You've been active 'round here for a while now. I had totally forgotten about it.
 
Life is complicated, it got away from me
 
@Dan OK... following up in a private channel. Either way, I think if you now understand the meaning of "Requires Editing" (meaning, can be edited into a question that does not need to be closed by someone other than the original poster), then the review ban has served its purpose.
The ban was also concerning your decision here, which you probably didn't see, because only one message can be shown at a time. I think that one is self-evident. "Requires Editing" is the wrong choice because the only person who can fix that question is the person who originally posted it. A third party like you or me cannot edit it into shape. Whatever edits we make, it'd still need to be closed.
In cases like that, "Unsalvageable" is the correct choice.
 
As for the vagueness, just caution, how often should one know who sent a mod message
 
@Nick Mod messages are anonymous now, and have been for several years, in order to keep down attempts at retribution. (Stalking us, hunting us down and threatening to kill us, etc. Not exaggerating. These things have happened and do happen.) So you never know who sent a mod message, unless we change the reply to include our names, intentionally removing the anonymity. This...we almost never do, for obvious reasons.
Beyond limiting retribution, the moderator team functions as...well...a team, so it doesn't really matter which individual mod clicked the button.
 
Most of the time, no, in situations like this, slightly different :p
 
12:22 AM
Right, which is why I did edit the message. I figure you're not going to hunt me down and try to get me fired.
 
slowly raises pitchfork
;p
 
user12960916
Hi
 
@csscoder Hello. Did you have a question?
 
user12960916
I know this is not the correct room but I had a question about Trello, is there a room for general questions?
 
No, this is a room about Reviews on Stack Overflow. I don't think there is a room for Trello general support.
 
12:25 AM
@CodyGray I have a deep appreciation for the mods, while I may not always agree with outcomes (and some I disagree with more than I agree with), I still stand by their actions, besides, even if did want to hunt you down, I think the evidence across the site is stacked against me ;p
 
user12960916
Alright thanks
 
Good UTC morning, here's today's review ban stats -
Currently, there are 1308 banned reviewers, out of which:
- 1166 (89.1%) users are banned for Triage reviews in one way or another
- 975 (74.5%) users are banned for selecting "Requires Editing" in Triage when the question was unsalvagable
- 118 (9.0%) users are automatically banned for failing multiple review audits
- 259 (19.8%) users are banned for the first time
- 378 (28.9%) users have at least five review bans
- 88 (6.7%) users have a duration of at least 100 days, of which 18 users are perma-banned
 
its 00:26! that's not morning sam xd
 
@Nick Bring on the disagreement!
 
:D
 
12:27 AM
Seriously. I welcome constructive disagreement.
 
So do I... but I haven't had much to disagree with recently
actually, there is one thing!
 
Heh. I'll try to fix that. :-)
 
Spreadsheet updated.
 
Dan
@CodyGray - Agreed, that other one is clearly unsalvageable. Thanks
 
I posted a mod flag "Mar 1 at 19:00" which was declined, and I can't quite understand why, I understand that it's one of my worse written mod flags, but my point was the lack of self-attribution, the adding links part was... incorrect (on my part)
That said... looking back at it, I may have flagged pre-emptively... they appear to only have changed 2 links, one of which does have attribution
See, nothing to disagree with, how boring
 
12:33 AM
I'm not entirely sure what to make of that. I probably wouldn't have declined it. The user should be including a disclaimer in their answer saying that it is their blog. I'm fixing that now.
Also... the mod who handled that flag did delete a whole bunch of link-only answers by that same user that linked to their own blog. So I suspect this was a case of a hasty decline, followed up by a bit more thorough investigation.
 
ahhhh
 
We sometimes go too fast.
 
Perhaps, I did think there were more but I can't see them in OPs profile anymore
 
Another recent example where I hastily declined a "rude/abusive" flag, before realizing that, at the time of the flag, it did meet the standards for "abusive".
 
Yes I read that post, the work around is a bit.... oof
 
12:37 AM
Raise a flag of my own in order to dispute it? Yeah...the fact that I immediately thought of that may suggest that I've been doing this a bit too long.
 
Well if you want a couple easy flags to do, i've got a couple plagiarism ones lying around, ones even been handled but the flag was left unresolved
 
I've got plenty of things on my plate at the moment
 
I was kidding ;p
I always have plagiarism flags to deal with ^^"
Turns out, despite all the warnings people have heard about checking for plagiarism with tag wiki edits, people still don't do it
 
Yeah. Speaking of, no need to roll these back yourself. If no other edits to the tag wiki have been made in the meantime, mods can override the approval on those, thus removing any rep that might have been gained from suggesting the plagiarized edit.
I have no idea if you know that already, but if you don't, consider yourself having learned something new.
 
I am aware of that ^^ it's why i tend not to roll back edits where I also flag, I'll only rollback individual edits where I don't think it's necessary to involve a mod
(not that I can do much about the tag edits, a lowly 5-6k rep, I didn't even know you could roll them back)
The only difference with tag edits (with plagiarism) is that I tend to mod flag them even if they get a single approve vote, because reviewers really should be keeping an eye out for that, especially when it's so blatant
It was actually Yvette that told me mods could override edits iirc
 
1:08 AM
past 1am, gn all o/
 
goodnight
 
 
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6:37 AM
@Chipster And from what I've read here it's quite a common problem / confusion, yet bans are still handed left and right. And people wonder why SO is often regarded as unwelcoming and elitist... not saying it is, but I can see the signs now.
 
7:37 AM
@SamuelLiew pondering on the idea of raising triage privilege from 500 to 1000 made me wonder if rep correlates with bans or not. I checked your spreadsheet and couldn't find data on how bans distribute among users with different rep levels (say, 500 to 1K, 1 to 2K and above 2K), could this be added (or made more prominent if I somehow missed)?
...on a related note, I wonder if throttling less experienced reviewers would make for a better learning experience than totally cutting them off review. I am thinking about something like limiting them to 5-10 reviews a day before they reach some milestone (say before 1K rep if we want it rep-based or before they make 50-100 triages if data shows that rep correlates with bans too weakly)
 
@gnat I could, but there are 1000+ bans and user rep is not displayed/fetched next to their name. Usually this is where we ask Shog to provide stats.
Yesterday I read a similar review ban stats posted by Shog a few years ago, it's still somewhere on MSO
(on mobile now)
 
7:55 AM
^^^ this one?
 
8:29 AM
@gnat yes. Only Shog can do such stats.
 
8:48 AM
Hi, as comment is disabled this is the only place where I can have this informal "praise". Sam, You have been around having fun with script and mastering the art of conducting (orchestra like) the review queue and ban. Thanks for that. I have nothing but respect for people diving into the queue.
 
9:01 AM
somebody needs to do the dirty work
luckily I'm out of a job at the moment and can devote the past few months to this
 
9:46 AM
@SamuelLiew your definition of "luckily" is orthogonal to mine
BTW i 100% agree with your suggestion to immediately review-ban anyone who tries to use triage. until or unless SE Inc. give it some much-needed TLC (i'm not holding my breath) it is causing more harm than good.
it should not fall to the site's users, or in this case a single user, to cover for SE Inc.'s failure and inability to provide basic functional tools
 
@IanKemp You don't think that'll will cause a lot of confusion if users get banned from using a link they've been told to please use? :)
 
@Scratte it will, but at this point options are limited. and maybe mass confusion will lead to people tweeting at SE Inc., which as we all know is the number one way to get things prioritised there
honestly, samuel - you have already given so much of your time to this - and time = money, so you are effectively paying SE Inc. to do the thing that they should be paying you to do. the whole dynamic is just fubar.
 
10:03 AM
@IanKemp True. It certainly will. However, there's also a risk that banning users without evidence that they did something to provoke it, may not go down very well for the moderator banning those users.
 
I'm also not sure there is causation between reputation and failed audit in a way that suggests that there would be less failed audits if the review privilege was moved to a higher reputation score. It may as well be that review experience is gained along with increased reputation. If I had started reviewing at reputation 100, I would have failed less audits at rep 500. Not sure I'm making sense.
 
> due to the free rep users got from the doubling of question rep from 5 to 10, we have at least 53,000 new users who suddenly flood the review queues without knowing how to review
 
@Scratte samuel's meta question, plus the fact he is even suggesting doing something like that, shows me he's at the end of his tether. if SE Inc. isn't willing to take that into account when judging his actions, particularly considering they're the ones whose fault this all is, they will have another Monica situation on their hands. and i dunno if they can survive another one.
 
Isn't this a short-term win? These people will, eventually, hit 1000 rep anyway and be able to review. It therefore feels like postponing execution, not a permanent solution.
 
10:13 AM
@Adriaan That was my point :)
 
@Scratte Something like, give people a single review queue like Triage, let them earn a badge, give them, say, 0.1 votes and then when they get to 500 rep, review their stats and decide if they're capable or not?
 
@IanKemp I can't speculate on different outcomes. I don't think most users ever read meta, so any situation is lost of a lot of users.
 
@Scratte I just popped in here to mention that, since comments were disabled on the meta post. Haven't read anything in here as of yet
 
ultimately what samuel chooses to do is his choice alone, i just want him to know that the community is behind him regardless, and that he should NEVER feel like he is obligated to continue this sisyphean task alone. if he decides to throw this all in the trash and walk away, i would not blame him, in fact i'd probably cheer him.
 
@DavidBuck Not the Triage queue. It's the worst one :D But that may work. Don't give then a actual vote, but old reviews. When they press the button, they can see if they're in agreement with others.
@DavidBuck I'm not sure their stats should be measured. Some learn very well by making all the mistakes :D But if they can play with it, they'd move their experience level without harm to the site.
 
10:21 AM
@Scratte and that is the tragedy of it all. SE Inc. has been talking "community" forever but a whole bunch of people who are just trying to get solutions to their problems is not a "community". the people who clean up after everyone, who willingly give their free time for no cost in order to ensure everything keeps working, THEY are the community. and they need to be protected and nurtured and listened to. and that is meta.
getting people into meta by pinning posts airing community grievances is hardly the best way to do it, but either SE Inc. needs to step the f**k up or we need more people in the actual community
so if confusion, and disruption, and airing SE Inc's dirty laundry is the only way to get them to fix the problems they've spent the last half decade ignoring, so bloody well be it
 
@IanKemp You're arguing that people who go out on a limb to do the right thing should never be punished, but instead praised. Unfortunately that's not usually the case in the real world.
 
@IanKemp eventually I'm going to have to apply 365-day bans on the first offence, I'm sure SE will take notice then
yesterday, by Samuel Liew
If no changes to the UI next week, perhaps I need to take more drastic actions, like increase minimum ban duration to 8 days, and change the suspension reason to:

"Congratulations!!! You, like many others, have been fooled by the poor wording of "Requires Editing"! **PLEASE STOP USING "Requires Editing"!!!** Read [https://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/389148](https://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/389148) to find out what "Requires Editing" really means, and direct your complaints or request a dispute at community-support@stackoverflow.com"
yesterday, by Samuel Liew
Then, after a month (Apr), change duration progression from 8 > 16 > 32, to 8 > 32. Following in May, min 16 days, then jump straight to 64
 
@Scratte people don't work for free in the real world either
 
@IanKemp They do on things they feel matter. Local politics, charity, calling out bad leaders. That's work they do for free, sometimes with their life on the line. Most of the world isn't free either. Trying to make the world a better place, causes entire families to go missing.
@SamuelLiew Have you considered the collateral damage that reviewers that get a long ban may never return to reviewing?
 
10:36 AM
quality comes first
 
Sam, if I see a post early closed by you can I assume you've already handled, stackoverflow.com/review/triage/25566110 for example
 
yes
 
Actually I have created a checklist that I use while reviewing, but I'm not very good at CSS and the like. I was planning on making it into a proper check-list and post it on META. But since it's just a text-file with no fancy colours and missing tables, it's just sitting on my desktop.
My idea was to put it as HTML-code with CSS being part of the one file, that people could then just copy and keep on their own system to view in whatever browser on the side while editing.
If anyone wants to give a hand, they're most welcome to ping me or start a new room with me.
Scratch that message two lines up. It was suppose to be: My idea was to put it as one HTML-file with CSS being part of the one file, so that people could then just copy and keep on their own system to view in whatever browser on the side while reviewing..
 
11:00 AM
Perhaps the "Requires Editing" button should just fire up the editor with the words "Go on then!"
6
 
11:18 AM
@yivi H&I is crap. It's quite literally a skipfest, meaning nothing can be reviewed. Even now.
Either skip or kick it back into Triage
@DavidBuck I would replace it with the "Edit" button. Otherwise, I fully agree.
 
11:38 AM
I did as much as I could today, spreadsheet is updated with interim stats
 
stackoverflow.com/review/triage/25566052 (maybe?, there's no description of what they expect it to do, just what it does)
 
@Nick I read "completely ignoring my expected output such as deleting number **6 and remaining values as {4,7,10}" as the expected output.
 
Yeah, but why expect that? What's the code meant to be doing
~~at the very least it definitely does not "Look OK"~~
 
@Nick I can tell you what it's meant to be doing by reading the messy bit :) I don't imagine you want me to tell you though.
 
dw, already got them for other reviews, now in a 32-day ban
 
11:51 AM
@Scratte Well it's presumably meant to remove the first element in the list each click ;p, still, disappointed it "Looks OK"
 
@Nick I agree. It should be edited, but I think it's salvageable. I'd Skip it though. I don't like being banned :D
 
From the comments it appears to be no-repro now though
retracted the unclear either way
 
Do people get banned for choosing "Unsalvageable", when the Question is really a "Requires Editing"?
 
you will if you unsalvageable enough good audits ;p
 
@Nick Somehow I've passed most of those. Not sure why :D
 
11:56 AM
I saw a bad Triage audit earlier that required the user to click "Requires Editing"
just because it had upvotes and revisions
 
ive always wondered if unsalvagable -> duplicate is a valid option for "good" triage audits, because often well recieved posts are actually dupes
 
@Nick. You can easily fail those, if I understand the system correctly. It only remembers what initially happens with the post, not what happened to it later on. But I may be mistaken.
 
who like it risky and does reviews without my userscript?
 
I mean if you try it in an audit, will it fail you
I do @SamuelLiew, but only because under the old group policy at work we couldn't have extensions, instead i just check the vote breakdown on all posts to audit check
 
aww
 
12:01 PM
i have it at home though
 
@SamuelLiew What does your userscript do? And does it work for low-rep users?
 
@Scratte if you have to ask you don't need it :P
 
@SamuelLiew If it's the one that auto-skips things, then I like it risky. Skipping stuff I don't see would not be giving me enough exposure to reviews :)
 
@SamuelLiew I hope that you still appreciated that poem posted on meta that you closed earlier ;p
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I did upvote it, but still off-topic :)
 
12:12 PM
Very good :D
 
I can't seem to find a post that mentions if a deleted post (like an answer) is ever completely removed. Do they really live forever in deleted mode?
 
@Scratte Yes, they do
IIRC even stuff requested removed by routes like DMCA takedown requests stay soft-deleted
 
@Nick Ahh.. bugger. Then I suppose I need to keep a list on my desktop for all my deleted stuff, as the UI will only show post that I deleted within the past 60 days.
 
@Scratte deleted post ids 60258683, 60025594, 59841291, 59815406, 59804131, 59743770, 59723777, 59723200, 59702241, 59700055, 59697872
 
12:20 PM
@SamuelLiew That's very service minded of you. Thank you :)
 
@SamuelLiew what is in the column ">= Five Times " of the Google Doc, users that are banned more then 5 times by you?
 
currently on their fifth or more review ban
for any reason
 
I feel that it then should be that they are on their last review ban ;)
 
nah, we want to keep letting them doubling up until 2048
 
So I assume that that also correlates heavilly with the column >= 100 days
 
12:27 PM
we have ONE user who is currently review banned for 1024 days btw
 
So they served a 512 day ban, and quickly did things wrong again?
 
yes, audit ban within the next 30 days of previous expiry
 
ouch
 
I remember someone saying before they'd got a "permanent" review ban
 
so we'll see if we have a 2048 record by Oct 16, 2022
ping me then if you want to remind me
 
12:29 PM
I remember there used to be a perfect explainer on the Triage queue by Shog, but I don't see it listed in your Q
 
I'll find it. It was quite short, right? With a flow-chart?
 
feel free to reasonably edit my featured post
 
@Luuklag I think you mean this one including the train-wreck..
 
This one I was thinking of, but I don't know if that was such a good post
 
ewwww onebox
 
12:33 PM
One of the very usefull functions of chat @Nick
 
I dunno about everyone else, but my triage queue today turned up less problems than the last few days
 
Same with the Late Answers.
 
12:49 PM
The queues definitely ebb and flow. In the murky waters of H&I I've nearly reached the review limit on a couple of days, on others there might be a couple worth hacking into shape but 25 flagged for closure
 
I have done a grand total of 7 H&I reviews
and if I show skipped reviews my history has 7 pages of them
 
What happens to the posts that everyone skips? Do they live the queue forever?
 
I'm on my 4th page of reviews but 57 pages of skips. Of those 57 pages, I'd guess I've flagged a minimum of 25% in some way.
On my most recent page of skips, 40% of them have already been closed. Not sure what happens to the other 60% if no-one ever edits them.
 
 
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2:18 PM
quick stat: There are ~6100 users who did at least three Triage reviews in the past 30 days (mod-only link), and ~10200 users participated in Triage.
 
2:36 PM
I got (again) banned from the Triage queue because of using "Requires editing". The first time was, in my opinion a correct ban, as I really didn't know what "Requires editing" was used for, after reading through https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/389148/ answers I thought I was aware and well prepared to continue reviewing triages.
I then got banned again now, because of using "Requires editing" again on this post https://stackoverflow.com/review/triage/25567820 which, in my opinion was the right choice as the post gives enough information to provide answers, but was pretty bad forma
 
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Q: Create a community curated review training simulator

MachavitySimilar to this request, but not filled with random audits (which are sometimes notoriously bad) and more focused on training people on how to spot what reviews are looking for. We have a process like this for people asking questions, it makes a lot more sense to do this for reviews. What the qu...

 
So what I learned now is to never use "Requires editing", because you get banned if other people do not agree with you, even if you think it's the right choice?!
 
2:49 PM
The post doesn't even have an example input or any code shown, so it's missing an MRE at a minimum, they're also asking 3 questions (one being a yes/no admittedly)
 
3:06 PM
@ich5003 The key (as always) is could you make an edit that makes the question viable? If the answer is "no", you should not pick Requires Editing
 
@ich5003 Your ban was likely a manual one. Samuel closed the question, and he likely also saw your incorrect "Required Editing" review feedback and handed out the manual ban accordingly
One of they key aspects of editing is that you should always correct all the problems you observe. Just because a post could be visually improved by editing doesn't mean you should edit it. If the post is not a good fit for Stack Overflow, then at that point editing is just polishing a turd and potentially making more work for other users.
I've gotten dinged myself by hitting the "Requires Editing" button just because I saw some unformatted code or ugly lists, and didn't take the time to read the post to see that it should be closed. In general, as Machavity mentioned, if one of the required edits to make a post better needs info from the post author, you should choose "Unsalvageable".
Or just skip it. I probably skip 5-10 times in Triage between choosing any of the other options
But yes, you observed correctly that "Requires Editing" is almost never the right choice there. In fact, Samuel's own Review Queue Helper userscript goes so far as to remove that button entirely from the Triage options
 
Thank you for your detailed answers. Maybe I indeed at first saw an ugly formatted post as @Das_Geek described. As there were still code examples in this question I thought it would be detailed enough to allow other users to edit the post to have a nice formatting, though as @Nick pointed it there was (against my initial intention) no MRE given.
It's also good to know, that I should stop using "Required editing" at all, as long as I am not 101% sure it's really only a formatting problem and triple check the post before using this option-
@Das_Geek Also thank you for the link to this script, I didn't know about it and will try it out as soon as I will be able to review again after my ban has expired.
 
Without looking at the question too hard, it seems like it could have had enough detail. The problem was that is was asking too much at once. One of the close options, "Needs more focus", gives the guidance that multiple questions shouldn't be asked in a single post. In this case, the user was asking two pretty distinct questions and should have only included one of them
 
@ich5003 You're already ahead of 90% of the reviewers out there just by having asked the question
 
@ich5003 No prob! It also has some handy audit-skipping powers. If you ask Samuel in this room he'll probably un-ban you. That's the point of the ban: to get users to find out why they were banned and hopefully learn from it
Since you've done that, I'm sure there won't be an issue.
 
3:47 PM
@ich5003 congratulations
 
:D
 
@Machavity :D
Thank you all for your support
 
np o7
 
4:26 PM
@Machavity The secret word is "stop" :P
 
 
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8:15 PM
Hoo boy, getting rate limited now :P
^ Ping me with the number of bans handed out from those links. Curious to see
 
9:01 PM
hey guys, I got a ban on triage for saying stackoverflow.com/review/triage/25566869 requires editing. I thought the question is pretty clear. When the user goes to the page for sucess they want the header and tab elements to disappear from the their device. I thought this could have being edited to be more specific. What are your thoughts, am I mistaken? Should I by default flag this questions as needing more details or clarity?
 
9:13 PM
@Kevin The ban comes from a misuse the "Requires Editing" button, and probably stems from a misunderstanding of what that feedback means. I think what you wanted to happen was correct, that the original poster should edit their question to have more detail. However, "Requires Editing" means that the post could be edited by anyone and be fixed. This is clearly not true, as nobody but OP knows the details of their situation
In general, if you could feasibly edit the post and fix it, you should choose "Requires Editing" (almost never the case). If OP has to edit in the information, then you should choose "Unsalvageable". If you're unsure, you should choose "Skip"
 
9:32 PM
@Das_Geek This is glorious...and much needed. (the review issues, not the rate limit)
 
@SecretAgentMan Just using my query
Since the data in SEDE is only refreshed on Sundays, it's really only useful about once a week :P
 
10:15 PM
@Das_Geek I've received some bans recently, can I know why? I came here through this post, and I think that I've missed an explanation so that I can learn why I was banned.
 
10:29 PM
@BernardoDuarte Unfortunately, as I'm not a mod I can't see your review ban history (Samuel is, though). I could look through your recent reviews and see if there's anything that sticks out; when were you banned?
 
@Das_Geek From feb 8 to march 1
The thing is I didn't know this page existed before that post, only now I'm finding myself able to discuss my bans ;/
 
@BernardoDuarte Well this room is fairly recent, and was created to help make it more obvious that Triage is terrible and to help educate those who wish to use it so they don't make more work for others
I'm unable to find anything glaringly obvious in your review history, so it may have been an automated ban rather than a manual one
In general, you can always discuss such things by making a post on Meta. A friendly neighborhood mod will usually swing by to help
 
I've made some wrong reviews on autpmatted questions once or twice and for that I understood, but I've received a manual ban once, I know that because I only realised when I went to review and couldn't.
Thanks for the tip!
 
No prob! It's always beneficial to post on Meta, so long as you can provide enough info about your situation. Sometimes a mod will decide you've been banned wrongly and lift the ban, or at least let you know why. Better than sitting around wondering :)
By asking here, you're already better than 90% of reviewers
 
11:17 PM
Just FYI, the wording concern I raised in the question is something that I brought up in my recent user research interview with SE staff. I clearly explained how "unsalvageable" carries a negative connotation and drives users to review not truly "unsalvageable" questions (in the mood sense of the word) as "Requires Editing".
I also explained the infinite cycle of clicking "very low quality" in the H&I queue and how it simply sends things back to Triage, using Taryn's flowchart of the queue posted on MSE.
Also, it's worth noting that several years ago, review privileges were granted at 125 rep; this was bumped up to 500 rep once the old retag privilege (which allowed users to make tag-only edits without having them approved as suggested edits) was abolished.
They did tell me that if there were concerns I thought of afterwards, I should email them. So it would be nice if I got a compiled list of those, so I can email the UI designer about it. (Which will hopefully resolve the issues faster.) (cc @SamuelLiew)
 

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