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12:09 AM
@Mikhail Strange. I thought Wiki was only supposed to have entries for famous people, but I've never heard of this guy.
 
If someone is a vegetarian and a dog lover who keeps a dog, what does the dog eat?
 
dog food
 
dog food contains meat ...
 
Oh, so the dog is supposed to be vegan too.
 
@Mikhail I have never seen soft toys with butt holes on them. It's not like if they need them. And what kind of soft toy maker would purposely put a butt hole on a toy just for the sake of it??
 
12:22 AM
I have given this much thought and I have come to the realization that nationalism and nationalists are self-destructive.
 
@TelKitty Since vegetarians are (at least in their own minds) self-sacrificing, they obviously sacrifice their own limbs to properly nourish their pet.
 
@TelKitty I don't think it's trying to be anatomically correct. I think that's where they shoved the cotton.
 
OMG I have never thought of it, but one of the reasons why animals have tails is to hide butt holes!
 
Yeah, I think it's more of happenstance. A synergy of irony and pun, a type of double entendre.
 
@JerryCoffin The other odd point is that hair is made of protein. Dumbledore has a lot of hair/beard. How did he get all these proteins? Did he eat bean and related products all day?
I totally support #metoo movement, it's just that the name of it resonant with herd mentality.
Too much strange thought for now, I have some other place to better amortise all my brain power.
 
12:47 AM
@TelKitty you think it's a herd mentality
Octopussy is a 1983 British spy film, the thirteenth in the James Bond series produced by Eon Productions, and the sixth to star Roger Moore as the fictional MI6 agent James Bond. The film's title is taken from a short story in Ian Fleming's 1966 short story collection Octopussy and The Living Daylights, although the film's plot is original. It does, however, include a scene inspired by the Fleming short story "The Property of a Lady" (included in 1967 and later editions of Octopussy and The Living Daylights), while the events of the short story "Octopussy" form a part of the title character's...
The name of the female lead is Octopussy.
she has 8 of something, and I don't remember there being any cats in the move.
This seems like a movie @Mikhail would probably enjoy.
 
1:33 AM
Sukiyaki Western Django (スキヤキ・ウエスタン ジャンゴ, Sukiyaki Uesutan Jango) is a 2007 English language Japanese Western film directed by Takashi Miike. The title of the film refers to the Japanese dish sukiyaki, as well as Sergio Corbucci's spaghetti western film Django. The film was produced by Sedic International, Geneon Universal Entertainment, Sony Pictures Entertainment, Dentsu, TV Asahi, Shogakukan, A-Team, Nagoya Broadcasting Network and Tokyu Recreation. It also takes inspiration from the "Man with No Name" stock character variously used in the spaghetti western genre but most notably in the Dollars...
This is the last film I saw
Have a Nice Day (Chinese: 大世界; pinyin: Dàshìjiè; previously titled 好极了 (Hǎojíle)) is a 2017 Chinese animated dark comedy film directed by Liu Jian. It premiered in the main competition for the Golden Bear at the 67th Berlin International Film Festival in February 2017. It is Liu Jian's second feature film, following his debut Piercing I. The film, mostly done by Liu himself, took three years to complete.Its plot revolves around the journey of Xiao Zhang, a young driver working for a gang, who steals a bag from his boss containing a million yuan (approximately US$150,000) to fund a trip to South...
 
2:14 AM
^Okay which one of you guys did this?
My code is like the titanic, it keeps getting hit by ICE.
Also they should build boats out of Microsoft OneNote because it won't sync.
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Government website mygov sent me a sms about having a notification in my inbox. I signed in to mygov account and saw 1 message in my inbox. It said: 'we will send you a sms whenever you have a message in your mygov inbox' and nothing else. So mygov website sent me a message for the sake of sending me a message ...
 
3:28 AM
Sydney property prices went down 15% in the last 2 years, NSW government insisted the price went up by 15% so they could collect more land tax.
Government greed.
I mean ... seriously? Did all the figures meant nothing to them? Are they mathematically illiterate or just being a nazi?
 
3:56 AM
Sometimes it's hard to tell whether it's a cubby house or a chicken coop.
Or maybe it's a dog kernel ...
 
@TelKitty Government greed, or merely attempting to pay for the services you're receiving? (I honestly don't know which applies there, but here in the US, there's certainly a lot of deficit spending).
 
4:59 AM
@JerryCoffin Stronger than expected budget surplus here ... also Australia gets a lot of $ by digging up dirt (coal, iron etc) and selling them overseas.
Not sure the accuracy of the news. But the merge and acquisition of blackholes - that's real business :p
 
5:15 AM
@TelKitty Does sound like using indirect means to raise taxes may have been a tad unnecessary.
 
5:47 AM
@Rick Just happened today. The dude that ran himself into debt submitted a ton of small computations for all the obscure (nobody cares) constants.
I implicitly told him to GTFO by not responding to him and adding a different world record from someone else (for a popular constant).
He got really pissed.
Either the guy is really good at trolling (seeing as I haven't blocked him after about 50 emails). Or this is an addiction like compulsive gambling.
Since he refused to stop after multiple times of telling him to stop.
In any case, Google sure got their money's worth for that computation.
 
6:05 AM
That is really messed up. He might have a case to get his money back.
I'd list him for his constants mostly because I'd feel bad for the person.
 
@Mikhail It's a compulsive addiction. And it seems to get worse the more he interacts with me.
So I'm actually going to block him.
Since he can't submit scores anymore, it cuts off his incentive to waste anymore money.
If he was trolling the whole time, he needed to be blocked anyway.
 
Using the precedents set by gambling addiction lawsuits, he may have a claim to get back some of his money. Specifically, needs to assert he was acting on his addiction, and therefore was not in the right state of mind when contracting for compute time.
In at least one case I know, when somebody accidentally ran $5k of EC2 bill, Amazon gave them their money back.
So, as long as you're not in the south being drunk while singing a contract makes it possible to void your contract.
 
@Mikhail The ones I've heard are when someone steals the auth token and then hijacks the account to mine crypto.
 
6:34 AM
In this case, the dude seems desperate for attention. So he wants to sweep the record lists to put his name all over it.
He's set one record (unverified), and he really wanted me to link his name to some FB profile the way I link Ian Cutress' name to his twitter.
But this guy seems to have some questionable morals which is probably too far right on the social spectrum that I don't feel comfortable linking to his profile. So I'm not gonna do it.
 
And this guy possibly reads this chat ... just saying ...
 
most digits horifficaly removed: mysti
 
@JerryCoffin It does not stop there - there used to be train station near the property. But since September last year, trains have been stopped because they are doing work at the station. Buses replace trains. Tons of complaints about buses because they are late, they take too long, they are not reliable and some need to change transport when one did not used to have to.
Even when the train station reopen at I don't know when, still no train to the CBD as they used to.
In the worst period of time, some properties value went down by 35% and a few months on the market.
If the price of the property price did go up because of the government's infrastructure spending, I would not be as mad.
But I am furious because they try to charge more when they made things worse - a lot worse than they used to be.
 
MSVC still lets you throw std::runtime_error
I don't have a twitter, but can I get your voice on my answering machine if I compute some large number of digits on an Intel watch? (venturebeat.com/2017/03/14/…)
 
7:01 AM
Oh, BTW I know there are apps/programs to analyse people's personality based on their social media profiles - linkedin, facebook, twitter etc. I talked to a guy who made such an application just a few weeks ago. Made as in ... paid others to make.
 
In August 2016, Intel recalled the tracker for overheating issues known to cause discomfort, burning, or blistering on the skin. It is no longer available for purchase, and Intel is offering exisiting users a full refund for the tracker and any authorized accessories.
 
Level 1 weapon: processor that vibrates at the frequency of human cells.
 
Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows how much would a scalable e-commerce website cost in the US? I'm talking about lots of products, 20 gb elasticsearch db, network application to fill es from sql, user accounts, etc.. Sorry if not c++ related, this is the room where I found most the answers..
 
No problem, just give me a credit card and the 3 digits on the back.
Intel Quark SoC X1000 contains a bug #71538[12] that "under specific circumstances" results in a type of crash known as a segfault. The workaround implemented by Intel is to omit in the compiled code LOCK prefixes not required on single threaded processors.
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While source-based embedded systems like those built using the Yocto Project can incorporate this workaround at compile time, general purpose Linux distributions such as Debian are deeply affected by the bug.
 
When I raised chickens in my yard, they used to get rid off every single mice or rat who was unlucky enough to get in here. Nowadays, I have no more chickens, but I got eight cats and three dogs and the slaughter of rats and mices keep going.
 
7:13 AM
Clearly single core users of any distro are getting hosed.
 
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8:10 AM
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Q: Why doesn't my second thread keep running indefinitely?

traduceradI am starting to learn things about scheduling and operating systems. But some things are stilll not totally clear to me. I ran this on a singlecore CPU and compiled with NO optimizations (-O0) : #include <stdio.h> #include <sched.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <pthread.h> static void* vpTas...

 
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I m putting this here because I KNOW "some people" here are familiar with rtos and multithreading ;)
 
10:51 AM
@traducerad this really depends on the scheduler
 
11:39 AM
It would appear that when you remove the LOCK instruction, the code runs so fast it burns the user's wrist. Or perhaps they didn't set the avx downclock low enough?
 
@Mikhail what is this a wearable?
regardless not having LOCK would make the processor useless on any pre-emptive multitasking system with interrupts
 
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12:04 PM
@A.H. how so? Could you please elaborte?
 
user7659542
This behavior seems inconsistent to me. You either preempt or you dont. There is nothing in between
 
@traducerad because stdio is syncronized and the main thread probably starts with the lock.
 
@traducerad Every scheduler operates with it's own parameters
Have you tried if they both yield?
Sometimes I amaze myself with my stupidity, I was razor focused on file transfer over ssh that I was neck deep in libssh, fstat and directory recursion, link following, etc. Then I suddenly realized hey scp is something that exists and is pretty good
 
 
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1:22 PM
@Mgetz to me this doesn t prove anything. This doesn t mean vTask2 should not be running infinitely, like is expected
 
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@A.H. if they both yield it prints everything nicely/concurrently
 
user7659542
@Mgetz task1 prints and then yields. Now task 2 does a computatiom but never yields. So normally task1 should never run again
 
user7659542
I dont see what this has to do with locking
 
1:43 PM
@traducerad it means that it's giving the OS a place to preempt it
 
user7659542
@Mgetz i don t understand what you mean unfortunately. To me the behaviour should be consistent, yet it isnt and I don t see why!
 
user7659542
Could you please clearly explain, based on my post on SE, what you think the issue is?
 
user7659542
vTask2 (without pritntf), should imo just run indefinitely, bottom line.
 
are you sure there is no preemption?
 
2:00 PM
@traducerad you assume locks are fair?
 
user7659542
@ratchetfreak that s what I am trying to find out. The os allows preemption in theory
 
user7659542
To me vTask2 should just keep adding and vTask1 should never run again
 
user7659542
@ratchetfreak how would you explain this behaviour?
 
@traducerad actually I have a stupider explanation... the compiler detects that i will overflow and optimizes out the loop
 
user7659542
@Mgetz no because look at the assembly code
 
user7659542
2:13 PM
It s all still there!
 
user7659542
Nothing got optimized out, based on the assembly
 
user7659542
Long story short I was initially trying to find out whether task2 would gget interrupted if it never yielded. Turns out it sometime does and sometime doesn
 
user7659542
Which is crazy aa fuck to me
 
user7659542
*as
 
@traducerad welcome to threading?
 
user7659542
2:19 PM
That s not the type of behaviour you d expect from a non-free closed source RTOS
 
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@Mgetz
 
user7659542
I don t see how this makes any sense
 
2:30 PM
Welcome to the world of multithreading, where nothing makes sense and your expectations are subverted harder than in episode 8
and you are let thinking, my god what have I gotten myself into
 
2:44 PM
@traducerad without having docs for the RTOS I can't comment about it's scheduler
I generally don't use RTOSes
 
2:58 PM
I find it strange that C++ doesn't have a ready solution to escaping strings for shells, especially file paths stackoverflow.com/questions/55610499/…
Neither does boost
 
@A.H. why should it? That would require domain knowledge that's not strictly necessary?
 
3:14 PM
Maybe for the standard library, but boost really should have it
it already does transformations based on platform
 
 
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5:45 PM
when you increment char pointers is that basically deleting the first element in the string.
what is the mechanism of action for this?
 
@Rick no it doesn't, it just points to a different point in the memory block. it also makes it unfreeable unless you have an original pointer
 
I have the original pointer and it is also modified.
hold on let me double check that
just incase
 
6:01 PM
@Rick if you modify what you get back from malloc you're doing bad bad things
 
your right
like what kind of bad things
 
not being able to free the memory
 
how about I put those pointers into an address table and then modify the original pointer that way.
that way I can walk it and modify it
 
@A.H. I don't find it particularly surprising. Relatively few people use C++ to do things like generating a command line to feed to a shell. People doing things like that are a lot more likely to use a more or less scripting sort of language.
@Mgetz If (and only if) you modify it in a way that you can't undo when you're ready to free the memory.
 
@JerryCoffin if you lose the original address returned you can't free
 
6:12 PM
@Mgetz Let me give an example of what I'm talking about. When you do new foo[size], it'll typically do something like malloc(size * sizeof(T) + sizeof(size_t)). Then it'll store the size if the array at the beginning of the memory, and pass the user the address following that. When the user does a delete [] foo;, it'll take foo, subtract the size of a size_t to get back to its count of items. Destroy each of those in a for loop, and finally pass the original address back to free.
 
@JerryCoffin yes but if you take that returned value and do fooptr++ that's then not delete[]able
 
But, from the time new returns the (modified) pointer to the user, and the time the user calls delete, the original address isn't stored anywhere.
 
I realize I'm not communicating this well
 
i was actually thinking more along the lines of this chars char end = s, temp; while(*end){ temp = addressTable[*end ] if(whatever) etc... end++ s= temp} etc...
 
@Mgetz I'm pretty sure we agree on what's actually needed. When you call malloc you get an address. When you call free, you have to pass it a matching address. Likewise with new/delete. But what you do in between is up to you. Though with the rules added for conservative GC compatibility, it's a little more complex than that too (not that it matters much, since nobody uses/supports them).
 
6:19 PM
correction char s; not chars
 
@Rick I'm still not at all sure I follow what you're trying to get at.
 
@JerryCoffin I'm just surprised a string can be traversed in this manner. just by walking the pointers.
 
@Rick Oh, okay. Yeah, that's pretty much the sort of thing pointers are for. So yeah, you can do things like: for (char *s = input; *s; ++s) if (!isspace(*s)) cout << *s; to print out a string with all the white space removed (though it technically has a bug--you should cast to unsigned char before passing to isspace).
 
@JerryCoffin pretty much. As aforementioned, I'm bad at communicating
 
6:36 PM
@Mgetz your not a bad communicator. I dare say you are a better communicator than me.
However, that might not be much of an accomplishment.
 
6:49 PM
The only one worse at communication than us is yo' momma!
 
 
@JerryCoffin that's true, my momma has a heavy eastern european sounding accent.
 
7:06 PM
She was so happy when Melania became the first lady. She was like "look, she speaka like me, I Miss Amerrrica, stop being jealous you hating".
 
@Rick That sounds more like what I'd expect from somebody mocking an Asian (with a touch of Italian thrown in) than an Eastern European.
 
Kinda sounds like Borat.
 
7:33 PM
@StackedCrooked I have to admit, I never quite got that. I mean, I never though Bo Derek was quite as hot as some people did, but comparing her to a rat seems kind of extreme even to me.
 
Dammit you're making me Google.
 
@StackedCrooked I guess I've failed. I was hoping for for giggles than googles.
 
Seems like Bo Derek would have been the hot model about when you were a late teen.
In my time it was Cindy Crawford.
Which means we're about 10 years apart.
Hm...
Not sure if that's right.
Dammit I bit may pinky nail and now it's bleeding.
 
@StackedCrooked Something like that, anyway. Her big movie was "10", but I'm pretty sure I never saw it--no matter how beautiful she might have been, it wasn't worth sitting through a movie with Dudley Moore in it.
@StackedCrooked They make these cool things called nail cutters that help reduce the necessity for chewing off the ends of your fingers...
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah. I should check them out one time.
According to grandmothers there's this quick way to judge whether a guy is good husband material: check his fingernails and his shoes. If both are clean then he's good.
I always fail at both.
Despite that I'm pretty good at C++.
That must mean something.
 
7:48 PM
Wasnt there a boost library that allowed you to do like:
using Foo = boost::type_safe_basic_type<float>;
using Bar = boost::type_safe_basic_type<float>;
and now even though theyre both "floats" you can accidentally assign them to each other?
(kinda like going from enum to enum class)
 
You mean BOOST_STRONG_TYPEDEF?
 
@StackedCrooked Clean shoes? I'd qualify now pretty easily, but when I was growing up in the great white north, not so much (especially this time of year--melting snow makes all sorts of mud puddles and such, so even if you stay indoors, just getting close to an outside door will get your shoes dirty... :-)
 
Dammit, you're making me Google stuff again.
 
^ this, clean shoes virtually impossible
 
"great white north" means Canada?
@ScarletAmaranth I suppose you're not husband material then.
:P
 
7:56 PM
I'll be proposing to my lady in a few days / weeks, let's hope that's untrue :P
 
Hey, you're not supposed to tell us.
 
I am not?
 
Anyway. Better clean your shoes.
And report to us afterwards :)
 
we talk about it fairly casually, it's I believe a mutually understood affair at this point that it will happen soon enough
so unless I'm missing something fundamental, it should work out just fine :P
 
That sounds good.
 
7:58 PM
do you actually have someone?
I haven't ever heard you talk about your romantic involvements
:D
 
No. I kinda gave up on that.
 
how does one give up on that - just not interested in like, founding a family?
 
Had a 2 year relationship in my early twenties. We were both in this evangelical church. We broke all the rules (like no sex before marriage). After that I left church. Did a lot of partying. But I didn't manage to get into a relationship, despite trying. When I was around 30 I was like: ah well, I don't care anymore. Nothing happened since then.
Great story. They should make it into a movie :P
 
fair enough; this should be made into a Netflix speshul
 
First marriage proposal is the hardest, second one is easier.
 
8:11 PM
it's close to being pre-agreed upon, we've even found a promise ring together; no big deal really
 
knock on wood
 
When you want to get some kids let me know, I know a guy who sells giant butterfly nets.
 
FBI has joined the chat
 
@JerryCoffin I just used this site, dcode.fr/russian-accent. I added the extra "a" for zest. Clearly, that threw you off.
 
9:10 PM
@Mysticial lol I forgot about it the moment you said 100 billion and realized this is just bitcoin mining. If someone went broke trying to get to 100 billion that just seems sad. Unless they did something unique but that seems doubtful.
@JerryCoffin so you wouldn't tap that.
 
 
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11:08 PM
@Rick If you want me to see it as Russian (or similar), start with the Cyrillic alphabet.
@Rick Now, I'm married, so no. As a teenager...well, how many teenage boys would decline sex just because she wasn't quite exactly the woman he'd prefer?
 
11:49 PM
@JerryCoffin I know you have to pay for tips in motels & hotels in the U.S. Do you have to pay tips while staying in airbnb or homeaway? How about Canada?
 

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