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1:00 PM
@J.Doe Because of course you're fighting with W3C
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan full of enums
 
Wild guess, border-radius?
 
@RoelvanUden I am building toys. I started with small ones and they are getting larger which is why I am opening up to project management techniques
 
@MikeTheLiar And 'WASM is exactly like ActiveX'
 
@MikeTheLiar Im fighting about true things and they banned me about border-radius topics
Look, this is good thing, nothing crazy
And they deffered
 
1:02 PM
I will decide what is good and what not
 
> Since it looks like we're not rushing towards implementation, could we instead have safari and chrome try to remove it?
aha
 
and I decide that if W3C says its not good, it is not good
 
hahaha
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
"I want to remove feature X for arbitrary reasons; basically I just don't like it"
"I keep complaining how it should be removed"
"Why did I get banned?"
 
"border-radius"
 
1:03 PM
I had bunch of reasons, you dont know me and my activity even in 1%
 
sure
 
your activity in 1%?
 
@J.Doe Yes, because, in addition to this possibly useful feature, there are hundreds of other features, and things have to be prioritized. Is this really, in your opinion, the most important thing in the css landscape right now?
 
Border radius in W3C is closed to me
 
but we dont make a big fuss of things
 
1:04 PM
That's right. I don't know what you're like. I'm biased around what you're showing in here. And let me tell you man, it's not looking good @J.Doe
 
at least... most of us
 
The problem isn't with your opinions, it's with the abrasive and demanding way you express them.
 
@Wietlol you dont even know about border-radius
 
true
i only experienced the aftermath
 
Do you honestly think the W3C people don't know what Chrome is and its market share? But when you talk to them like idiots, you will get ignored. Because they have no reason to listen to some rando on the internet who comes in, guns blazing, calling them idiots. You'll get banned, because you're being an ass.
 
1:05 PM
But "word-break:break-word" is good thing and i will fight for this until i die or get banned in W3C in this topic
 
why fight?
its not your invention
its not your browser that gets promoted
 
its not your company that gets paid
why fight?
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Im "working" with W3C for the years and they are not smart. They have talented ppl but its only smart part
 
You accuse them of personal vendettas(?) because they didn't prioritize a CSS feature like you did(?!). You imply again and again that they don't know what they're doing ("maybe he doesn't understand how important it is") - that's no way to get people to listen to you. Remember, they don't need your input. If you want to be listened to, learn how to speak.
@J.Doe If "working" is what you do there, then I don't blame them for banning you if you've been a constant pain in the ass for years with shouted demands for trivialities.
 
1:07 PM
Dude this feels like one of those arguments where you see a woman complaining because she can't do X, but the whole idea of that argument was a completely different reason and she's just shielding behind a context that apparently favors her and helps her comfort herself. I pointed out a woman like I could have pointed out a cat, different ethnic groups, religion or political stuff, it was just an example, don't bash me.
 
@MikeTheLiar lordy lordy
 
@HéctorÁlvarez why a woman though?
 
@HéctorÁlvarez If you know you're being an ass in the message itself, why not go and edit it and not come out as a douche?
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan mostly because you want to show that you know you are an ass...
 
@KendallFrey i no rite
 
1:08 PM
@J.Doe Do you work? I mean, in a professional setting? Where do you work? How does that work?
 
(you not as in you you, but the person who says it you)
 
@J.Doe Go somewhere else with your arrogance
 
@KendallFrey why would you tell our prophet to vacate?
 
@J.Doe Your feud with the w3c has nothing to do with the importance of work-break:word-break. It's just you wanting to win, to show that what you want is what will happen. It's a pissing contest.
 
He's not a prophet he's a nuisance
 
1:09 PM
Don't ask me, I'm just reading this Doe controversy and it sounds just like good old feminism. A war lost before the first battle had started, because the underlying factor has nothing to do with what the subject refers to.
 
same diff
 
@RoelvanUden Im IT Pro
@KendallFrey If you want me to go you need to ban me
 
@KendallFrey i thought he was a user
 
And if you'll allow me to translate a crude Hebrew military phrase about pissing contests: "when you piss on the army, the army gets wet. When the army pisses at you, you drown".
 
gladly
 
1:09 PM
Wait @RonaldMunodawafa where did you go?
 
well that was quick
 
I wanna see MoonOwl and J.Doe get in a debate
5
 
@KendallFrey hes an IT pro tho
 
@J.Doe "IT pro"
 
@MikeTheLiar yes pls
 
1:10 PM
what do you do?
 
IT, duh
 
@MikeTheLiar who is MoonOwl?
 
!!moonowl
 
@Wietlol dude
 
1:10 PM
@Failsafe I'm around. I'm just setting up my issue registry while I wait for approval to use issue trackers
 
RonaldMunodawafa's old username
 
MoonOwl would just get pissed
 
The metaphor implies being an entitled person who pretends one's acts are condoned if the end justifies the means like it was the renaissance period.
 
Guys, can we try to stay on topic here? @RonaldMunodawafa and @J.Doe are trying to have a conversation
 
user47589
are they forging new relationships?
 
1:11 PM
🍿
 
Need to go. Either ways. I'm sure a discussion would have been interesting
 
@Amy Where none previously existed
 
Maybe next time
 
OPPORTUNITY WASTED
 
He will get banned for another year so probably not
 
1:12 PM
YOU DIED
 
user47589
i got better
 
@Amy Wait, is that a girl?
 
I'm sure there are people with legitimate issues who'd be blocked by what would become a laugable discussion
 
@Failsafe just now?
 
-3
Q: How do I refactor my model by converting an object to a boolean?

SkullomaniaCurrently I have a an object in my model that allows a specific row to inherit a css class: public Object Foo {get; set;} Then I add it to an array so that the necessary row gets the class: {..., Foo = new Dictionary<string, object> { { "class", "myClass" } }} ... My question is, how do I i...

 
1:13 PM
@HéctorÁlvarez Don't bother she's not into you
 
I changed the question but the sharks of so are smelling blood in the water
please help
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan No, i want make web better. If you know how to better and more effective fight with bad thing show me
 
@HéctorÁlvarez don't be a creep dude
 
@KendallFrey I'm not looking for anything, just amazed at the sight of a female in a place like this.
 
are you fucking 5
jesus
 
1:14 PM
wow
lol
 
sweats nervously h-hey guys
 
user47589
thanks mike
 
@Skullomania I'm confused
 
@J.Doe You made a suggestion, you were told it's not going to be prioritized right now. That's fine. Making this "a fight until they ban me" isn't making the web better. It's just self-righteousness.
 
tips fedora
 
1:14 PM
M'Amy
 
@Failsafe that's a microaggression
 
@Amy I gotchu fam
 
@RonaldMunodawafa how so?
 
@Failsafe nice
 
user47589
i know nerds aren't used to women and are shocked to realize they're in the presence of one.
 
1:14 PM
M'pony
 
@KendallFrey lol
 
I don't understand what his goal is
It appears to be deliberately poorly formed
 
https://stackoverflow.com/posts/49775774/revisions
really? "made question more clear"? You changed a word in the title
 
You want to make the web better? Refocus your efforts.
 
@Amy I mean actually you still classify as an inhabitant of Equestria
 
1:15 PM
couldn't of put it better myself @RonaldMunodawafa
 
@Amy and yet he referred to you as both a "girl" and "female" but not woman
 
muno with the sick burns
 
I have a model and I want to change an object to a boolean
 
user47589
@MikeTheLiar yep
 
I don't know who I offended, but my apologies, whatever it is I said wasn't meant to attack anyone.
 
1:16 PM
@MikeTheLiar I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt here because English isn't his native tongue, but he'll have to show he can decreep a bit to give him that.
 
@Amy You're a girl pony, tho. Not exactly the same is it.
 
user47589
potato, potato.
 
If someone could clarify what happened I'd be glad to hear it.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan But im trying to do something to make web better and not sitting on chair watching how world will burn. Action > Non-ction. About word-wrap im fighting from 2 years not to deffer it only because someone sad 2 words in irc
 
that doesn't work in text.
 
1:16 PM
The gender of a developer should not matter. For all we know, he, Amy, is a guy
 
@RonaldMunodawafa no
 
uhm what
 
user47589
checks nope.
 
@HéctorÁlvarez you're being a patronizing creep
 
@KamilSolecki im not sure but I dont remember any MoonOwl
 
1:17 PM
Well that logic is sound
 
I know Amy and she is a wonderful person
 
I had a friend named Stacy, he was a guy
 
@MikeTheLiar Really? Why?
 
@KendallFrey I see people focusing on her gender
 
@RonaldMunodawafa Amy is 100% not a guy
 
1:17 PM
@MikeTheLiar meh. I dont think so
 
on the other hand, i am "younger" than most of you guys (younger as in newer to SO Chat)
 
it is known
 
I guaran-fucking-tee you Amy knows more about programming than you do
 
My point is it doesn't matter what gender she is
 
oops I just did an Inspecter Fowler
 
1:18 PM
I've been misunderstood
 
Aren't you always
 
@RonaldMunodawafa @KamilSolecki "omg a female programmer in the wild"
 
@MikeTheLiar I don't think I expressed what I intended to.
 
"What a rare discovery"
 
lmao @ guaran-fcuking-tee
 
1:18 PM
@J.Doe Nope. "Action > non-action" isn't a universal truth. Non-action is better than bad action. It's better than destructive action. It's better than action backwards.
 
okay anyways, since we are going into the no zone
 
I never seen it spelledout
 
@MikeTheLiar omg a black programmer
 
NO! I saw people discussing her gender and thought they were obsessing over it
 
@MikeTheLiar what kendall said
 
1:18 PM
I'm obsessed over Kendalls undefined gender.
 
@RonaldMunodawafa I assume it matters to her.
 
If I was female, I'd definitely just want the gender to be ignored
 
whoa whoa whoa, I am a black programmer
 
too crowded here now
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan No need to assume
 
1:19 PM
why is this the new JS Room?
 
!!c#
 
Kendal has a winky wonky, I checked.
 
@RoelvanUden fucking javascript
 
May 5 '16 at 15:17, by BoltClock
THIS ROOM IS OUT OF CONTROL
 
@MikeTheLiar I had honestly only seen one girl in the chat before, I didn't mean that to be offensive in any way.
 
1:19 PM
@KamilSolecki "Amy is a wonderful programmer"?
 
But I get it, I apologize.
 
@RonaldMunodawafa The irony in this
 
THIS CONVERSATION SHOULD'VE ENDED 20 MINUTES AGO
 
@KendallFrey exactomundo
 
lol
 
1:19 PM
WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT
 
@KendallFrey lay it out for me
 
@Failsafe cause we're bored on a hump dayyyyy
 
agreed
 
@MikeTheLiar about the black people. I'd assume its was just one of these wowowo look its a black dude wowowo
 
!!giphy it is wednesday my dudes
 
1:20 PM
Only thing getting humped is your mother
 
jokes
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Sometimes when everything goins wrong better is do "bad thing" and burn it all to have space where you can start again. Non action is stantation going to self-destruction
 
@HéctorÁlvarez Now, let's say you're sitting in a social setting with friends. A setting where there are usually only guys are. And now a women steps in. You suddenly sit up and say "a girl! look! a girl! *points* a girl!". Would you think that would be pleasant?
 
@KamilSolecki I'm not sure how this is relevant. Is this a J.Doe reference?
 
1:20 PM
@J.Doe That's just plain not right
 
@J.Doe Yeah. That? Bullshit. That's destruction. That's not maknig the web better. That's breaking your toys because the game isn't going your way.
 
@MikeTheLiar I do know and understand your point, but I simply believe it was just slightly too early for a kick
 
@KamilSolecki it's been a pattern. Bud nipped.
 
I'm uncertain what the point of the conversation is now so I'm going to check out for now
 
user47589
i was in favor of the kick, for what its worth.
 
1:21 PM
as if conversations needed a point
 
This conversation has a point?
 
user47589
nothing quite like having attention drawn to my gender, as if its an important point
 
Yes it does
 
no it doesnt
 
besides the point that we offtracked, we still need reasons to shitpost
 
1:22 PM
@Amy I thought your vagina rendered you unable to effectively program if there wasn't a man dictating it to you?
 
this room is cancer and you are all making it malignant
 
lol dictating more like DICKtating amirite
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan You have a point... I will keep my face-gutter shut.
 
!!afk ♋️
 
@MikeTheLiar oh look! Pisces!
 
1:23 PM
@MikeTheLiar dank
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan When web will be too bad to repair it will be better to start from scratch. Now is still chance to fix it and thats why im fighting
 
@Amy I'm sorry. I was making the point that your gender could be unicorn and it shouldn't influence how the people who were discussing it perceive your contributions
 
@J.Doe have you, by any chance, played too much post-apocalypse themed games?
 
word-break is unquestionably a stupid hill to die on
 
@KamilSolecki Yes, this game is real world
 
1:24 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Althought I can't say I haven't seen that happen in an actual real life situation. Nobody was kicked from the store at that point though.
 
@J.Doe See? This is what I'm talking about. You're taking a small CSS issue and pretending it's nothing less than Custer's Last Stand. You shall word-break:word-break them on the beaches. You shall word-break:word-break them on the landing ground. This is where humanity stands up against oppression!
 
@RonaldMunodawafa I am a trigender pyrofox from the forest planet
so
 
But it isn't.
 
dont assume my gender
 
@HéctorÁlvarez No, because being kicked out is usually still considered a bigger offense than being made to feel uncomfortable because of your gender.
 
1:26 PM
Look at my GitHub, not my genitals
2
 
@Failsafe fuck forest planet seriously aqualand is much better
 
It's not because it isn't offensive, it's because it's the sort of offensiveness that people accept and take for granted.
 
@KendallFrey what if my github is just full of dick pics
 
is it
 
@KamilSolecki my name is firedash
 
1:26 PM
then that's what your potential employers will judge you by
 
@RoelvanUden base 64 encoded png images
 
@Failsafe "encoded" means encryption amiright
 
of my 2ft schlong
yea
 
Onto more interesting stuff: Why does .NET Core build dlls for console applications? Is there a way to "publish" a .NET Core app such it won't require the dotnet command to be run for it to run?
 
I am compTIA123cisp sertified
 
1:28 PM
@RonaldMunodawafa I don't understand the first sentence
 
Well, I honestly didn't want to mock, offend, attack, or make anyone at any level feel uncomfortable.
 
@RonaldMunodawafa ?
 
@Failsafe I am not certified™
 
@HéctorÁlvarez THAT OFFENDS ME
 
@HéctorÁlvarez We're not mad at you, it's just a tired old "joke"
 
1:29 PM
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan World is build on small pieces and from this we build better and more functional abstract. When this small pieses are cancer everything can be destroyed even when its only small part of all
 
You know when you run 'dotnet build' for a console app, you get a dll instead of an exe
 
@HéctorÁlvarez How dare you say this to me!?
 
Why is that
 
@J.Doe the fuck are you on mate
 
@RonaldMunodawafa because you run the dll in an exe that is your dotnet env
 
1:30 PM
@Failsafe freedom
 
the web is a constantly evolving entity not a foundation in shambles
 
@J.Doe Yes, but a minor css tweak isn't cancer. And you know what? Saying that it is shows a drastic inability to differentiate between important and unimportant things in life.
 
do you even realize the web broke already
like a decade ago
 
@RoelvanUden I'm guessing there's a publish command?
 
or more
 
1:30 PM
@KendallFrey Oooh, I get it. I wouldn't expect it was an overused comment. But as someone who's been mocked as a child for random reasons I can relate and take this kind of stuff seriously, even if I don't understand the reason behind.
 
Why are we even talking about CSS in here? This is C# chat. Take that shit to the web developers chat.
 
@RonaldMunodawafa Pretty sure yeah but you'll have to decide what for. By default, dlls are the portable cross-platform capable deliverables that you can run anywhere.
 
discussion closed; off-topic
 
you can't run an exe on mac, for exampl
 
1:31 PM
@Squiggle fuck you dont assume this chat's orientation
how dare you
 
How does mono do it then?
 
What the fuck is going on in here
 
@Failsafe CSS is not a gender or sexual preference.
There. I said it.
 
its my sexual preference
 
@Butler1233 the good Olde C# room is back
 
1:32 PM
i bet someones fetish is CSS
somewhere
 
mono still couldn't run executable without going mono executablename.exe
some os integrated so that double clicking exe did that
 
@Failsafe oooh yeeees baby more of that stroke-width
 
@Squiggle J.Doe gets off on border-radius so your point is invalid
 
I spend an hour firefighting and then go out for a few minutes to get lunch and then this
 
but it's not really predictable behavior nor some default
that's probably why dotnet went for dll, because it's always a non-executable
 
1:33 PM
@Squiggle pornhub has 123 results for "css", your argument is invalid
4
 
and you have to decide how you wish to publish
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Just difference in resolving problems
 
@KendallFrey ...I'm gonna look that up when I get home.
 
difference in prioritizing work != difference in resolving problems
 
@Squiggle Constantly Shifting Sex
 
1:33 PM
@Failsafe You dont know anything about border-radius and trying to be fun but it was true problem
 
i know more than you
 
Many ppl are in jail now because of that leak
 
@MikeTheLiar You mean not lying perfectly still? :O
 
@Failsafe stop being fun
 
@RoelvanUden Thank you!
 
1:34 PM
@KendallFrey enough about your mother
 
@J.Doe I'm gonna need a source for that
 
So it's basically like what happens with Java
And Python
 
Yeah indeed.
 
@KendallFrey porque no los dos?
 
@KendallFrey you have to follow the fluid if you want to find the source of the leak
 
1:35 PM
Virtually anything that runs off a virtual machine or a "common language runtime"
What is the difference between the two
 
@MikeTheLiar pero tres.
 
@KendallFrey you dont remember the infamous CSS leak trials
 
Virtual machine, depending on context, can imply a full blown OS running virtually
 
everyone knows that one
 
@KamilSolecki better than tres perros I guess
 
1:36 PM
@MikeTheLiar i don't speak foreign sorry
 
i only speak american
 
That's enough outta you, maple chugger
 
The 'CLR' is described by wiki as a 'virtual machine'. So yeah, virtual machine can be confused about depending on context, but CLR is pretty universal -- you're talking about the virtual runtime system of a language
 
@MikeTheLiar I will cherish this memory for the rest of my life
 
1:37 PM
oh dear
 
@KendallFrey I bet at least one of them is "properly centered text, horizontally and vertically"
 
!!quote get css
 
4 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
@Squiggle pornhub has 123 results for "css", your argument is invalid
 
@MikeTheLiar thats pretty hot
 
1:38 PM
I know, right?
 
lmao
 
And the rest of them are border-radius
Two CSS properties walk into a bar. The bar moves across the street and three city blocks are rearranged.
 
CSS Detroit
 
2 mins ago, by MikeTheLiar
Two CSS properties walk into a bar. The bar moves across the street and three city blocks are rearranged.
This is why I hate CSS
 
1:41 PM
@J.Doe when you get unbanned, sauces please
 
I still should have a bottle of that cock sauce
 
@KamilSolecki Im kicking/banning everyday many times
Its normal for me
Specially in C# SO chat
 
I wonder why
 
they dont sell them here
 
1:43 PM
Whatever country you're in, leave
Sriracha is the water of life.
 
ye its dank, hence I import it
 
Slack me your address, I'll send you a bottle.
 
im still waiting for the sauce of people in jail because of border-radius
 
I have one in my desk at this very moment.
 
@MikeTheLiar thx a lot, but US shipping costs a fortune
 
1:49 PM
@Wietlol The people who created it or the people who use it wrong?
 
@J.Doe And still you don't learn.
 
@KamilSolecki I mean, having to pay the German import tax, and the Russian import tax, and the Italian import tax, and the Ukrainian import tax, and... time passes ... has got to add up.
 
iDunno
people went to jail, any sauce is good
 
@RoelvanUden because we are just shutting down the voices of the enlightened, as we are sheeple in the shadow of the conglomerate driven governments.
 
Anyone know of any code analysis programs that shows how all of your code interacts with each other? References between classes and the like?
 
1:51 PM
Please.
@Hypersapien Class diagram?
 
Yes
 
@RoelvanUden Im pretty sure that is his exact understanding.
 
@RoelvanUden What if you don't have classes
 
@Hypersapien Right click, Add new item, Class diagram
@RonaldMunodawafa Hello, this is C#, where everything is a class.
Wait, no, everything is an object, which is MOST LIKELY a class
 
@RoelvanUden There you go
 
1:53 PM
classy
 
And what if you are building a library with a portion in F# and another in C#
 
Damnit, I've been Roel'ed.
 
Roeling on the floor laughing
 
I'm pretty sure you can add classes from another lib.
 
What if you are not defining any classes in F#
 
1:54 PM
Is that possible? No, wait, I'm getting MoonOwled. Nobody cares because this is the real world :-D
 
And you are just defining functions, record types and discriminated unions
 
@RoelvanUden Are there objects that aren't also classes?
 
@RonaldMunodawafa Those are all still objects in CLR terms
 
Every object is an instance of a class.
 
@RoelvanUden Of course but not in terms of the language. When you debug a program are you looking at the translation of the program?
 
1:56 PM
@RonaldMunodawafa Yeah, the concept of source maps applies.
The source you see is mapped onto the clr output so that's exactly what happens
 
@RoelvanUden That only shows inheritance. Is there a way to show references between objects? Like when one instantiates another?
 
@Hypersapien Hmm, no I don't think so. I'm not sure about that. You can see when functions/properties initialize/use other classes by expanding them (right click show as reference)
 
@Hypersapien yes, use your eyes.
 
@Hypersapien Sequence diagram?
State flow diagram?
 
@Teomanshipahi I have a couple hundred classes here
 
1:58 PM
I don't know
Then have sequence diagrams per feature
And then compile them all into one massive sequence diagram
 

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