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12:20 AM
Misread that as "Electron Chatroom". That was nice
apologies for turning this into a circus y'all.
 
 
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Rob
3:32 AM
Would a moderator be able to clean up a few comments, as discussed last election? I'm truly grateful for any supportive comments, but unfortunately, questions are now being pushed into the 'show more comments', which isn't fantastic
 
Uhm
Do I need to open up that can of worms? ....
 
Rob
@BhargavRao If you're not comfortable removing the comments, that's fine. Just putting it out there, as I'm worried a few legitimate questions may be being glossed over/ignored
 
I'm removing just the ones which are either, "good luck" or "thanks"
 
Rob
Cheers
 
3:48 AM
Cleaned em up, let me know if I missed any
 
4:35 AM
@BhargavRao Should this one be removed?
Doesn't seem to link properly, but it's posted by Dmitry Petukhov under Vladimir Kovpak's nomination, and the text is "Go Vladimir! :D"
 
ah, then yep
gone, thx
 
@BhargavRao There's also a couple "fun"/"joke" ones under Art's nomination that might be considered "too chatty"
 
Hmm, those are a bit borderline, I'd not remove them. (or atleast the ones which I'm seeing are)
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao rolling eyes
 
silently leaves
 
user3956566
4:45 AM
@BhargavRao lmao
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao I feel your pain!
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao and there was a whole misunderstanding there rolls eyes again
 
Yeah, true. This time, I've just removed the blatant ones
 
5:03 AM
Ugh just spent a couple hours going back and forth reading the transcript
Interesting debates to say the least
 
 
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user3956566
7:17 AM
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs that can be bad for your health which transcript?
 
@YvetteColomb The entire transcript in this chat :D
Which was 30% you and 30% Art lol
 
user3956566
@K.Dᴀᴠɪs lol zips mouth
 
user3956566
The joys of time zone differences! :D
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao some of the people I'm running against I'd like to see win and there's not enough spots for everyone. I have a particular favourite for an all seeing tree @BaummitAugen :)
 
Yeah, Baum would make a good mod.
(Not endorsing him as a mod, but as a fellow RO of sobotics)
 
user3956566
yep he's a good tree
 
user3956566
@JonClements 'allo
 
9:00 AM
woof woof or something :)
 
user3956566
lol
 
user3956566
you should see this new pup we have
 
Did ya owners take you out for a walk, lil pup?
 
user3956566
that pup takes the owner's out for a walk
 
and if they're bad owners they don't come back from the walk... licks chops.... :p
Good to see this room reasonably active... never quite think it gets used enough during elections...
 
user3956566
9:04 AM
hmm note to self - do not upset Jon
 
user3956566
@JonClements I'm trying hard not to upset people O>O
 
seems a sensible thing to strive for :)
 
user3956566
runs out of room before upsetting anyone
 
@YvetteColomb did you notice you've got one of those pesky humans photo-bombing your selfie? :p
 
9:31 AM
@YvetteColomb Thank you for your trust, that's very kind of you!:)
I'll try my best.
Also morning all! o/
 
user3956566
9:48 AM
@JonClements yes!!! lol Love it
 
user3956566
@BaummitAugen not at all - it's the truth
 
10:39 AM
Ooh, I feel flattered. :)
Three spots this time, so maybe we can make it, best of luck!
 
user3956566
@BaummitAugen cheers, you too. I'm not feeling as confident as last yes - I'm trailing on meta
 
Actually, I'm not sure how much that really means.
 
user3956566
me neither :)
 
I doubt a significant part of the 30k+ voters from last time decided after carefully judging each answer.
 
user3956566
true - it's the broad broad community
 
10:43 AM
Can I get outspoken badge in this chat?
 
user3956566
hmmmm is that starred messages in chat?
 
@PeterHaddad I don't see any reason why not. You need stars though
 
yes :p
 
Sure, it's a normal room.
 
user3956566
@PeterHaddad you'll need to provide money transfers sure
 
10:51 AM
I see
can someone show me how to get outspoken badge?
 
Post some messages people find interesting or funny enough to star.
I don't think it's worth hunting that badge though, if you are active in chat, you'll get it eventually.
 
good morning
 
Alternatively you can jump into different rooms and post "STAR MUH MSG, KTHX". There's a heavy chance that you'll get a Out standing badge. IYKWIM ;)
@Floern \o
 
user3956566
hi - night time here
 
11:07 AM
@rene I respect that you don't want to nominate. It's not a light job. But if you did, you'd be a top choice, if not the top choice, for me. All my interactions with you have shown me you'd be a very, very good moderator for Stack Overflow. Just my two cents.
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I hear you ...
 
user3956566
11:25 AM
@rene you should be blooming with those words :D
 
We need rene to stay on this side to go up against the mods. The mods want rene to go over to the dark side. Don't do it!
 
Plot twist, we all hate @rene and want to watch him suffer. :p
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Oh, _that's_ what being a mod is all about :)
Guess I should get voting on my worst SO enemies.
 
11:41 AM
Ikr. That's why I pressurized Baum to contest. He fell for it
Muhahaha
 
Well, maybe one plant becoming a moderator per election is enough, I guess...
 
I hate plants. No wonder I'm a vegetarian.
 
@BhargavRao Just you wait, I'll snipe all the easy flags, leaving you with a ton of work to hit your stats. ;P
 
Well, let's see ;)
 
I see with all this enthusiasm I'll have to step up the amount of work I generate for the mods
 
11:50 AM
Yeah, you gotta pump those rookie numbers up
 
user3956566
12:12 PM
good night all
 
Gunnite!
 
Night! o/
 
Gunnite!
 
12:41 PM
I'm not going to bed now, it's early afternoon. XD
 
:D
 
I was about to mention that trees don't sleep, but according to Jagdish Chandra Bose, plants have "life", they can can "feel pain", "affection" and so on. Perhaps plants sleep as well. :/
 
1:42 PM
Cool
 
 
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4:19 PM
@BaummitAugen Based on the views vs the votes, fewer than half the voters likely even looked at the questionnaire.
 
@Catija About half, even a third, of the voters could be called a significant portion at least.
But reading though every candidate's answers is so much text, I would be surprised if more than a couple of hundred people actually did that.
 
 
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user3956566
6:02 PM
Morning
 
6:16 PM
morning
 
Afternoon
 
6:32 PM
Almostnoon
 
Timezone
 
@BhargavRao They can go dormant, but trees don't really sleep, so I think it is fair to say that they don't.
 
@TravisJ almost
 
6:49 PM
@YvetteColomb o/
 
@ArtOfCode how many times have you nominated yourself?
 
Uh... twice, I think?
 
user3956566
7:15 PM
@Taryn hi user formerly known as Bluefeet - a Prince reference :)
 
7:29 PM
Evening o/
 
@TravisJ thanks, good to know that @Baum doesn't sleep.
Fact: If Baum becomes a mod, he'll add to the list of the 4 lettered B-mods. Brad, Bill, Bolt, Blue ;p
 
I think I've just discovered what y'all need to do for April Fool's... @Bhar
 
No way! :D
 
@BhargavRao we need @Bugs
 
There was this user, who was contacted first by Andrew, and then by Brad. We were seeing a trend, and expected Chris or Cody to contact them next, but Martijn contacted them. So we changed his name to Cartijn Pieters :p
 
7:41 PM
HAHA. Some of the names won't convert into four-letter b names well, but Andy > Band works, Matt > Batt ; Cody > Body :D
 
Ed -> Bedd
 
BartOfCode
runs away
 
lol, epic
 
Bog9
 
Shorten Robert to just Bert.
Jeremy to Bank.
 
7:44 PM
or just add The Lizard as part of the mod title.
 
Tis gettin tougher to do.
@TravisJ Nah, The Lizard is when you manage to become as good as Bill.
There's a myth that no one can ever become The Lizard, but Martijn is quite close.
 
 
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9:21 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Noooo, why delete your question?!!! ;)
 
9:51 PM
:(
 
2 downvotes in 5 minutes. I left my previous question undeleted and got 11 downvotes, so since the question was about try to be better to low rep users, and people don't see m to take that well, ok, I don't want to know now. I guess I'll have to fax them the reopen results.
(and it was some disguised feature request which are usually swiftly done in 6 or 8 weeks so not a great loss anyway)
 
dont ask questions now, maybe ask after the election
play it safe for now ;)
 
playing it safe would be not to nominate oneself. That wasn't an electorate move. I just got struck by the injustice done to that user (well, maybe he solved it himself anyway)
I'm not going to ask any questions on meta for a while. Some answering, yes.
 
10:08 PM
Waitaminute
Why though @Jean-FrançoisFabre?
 
@Makoto you mean?
 
You said you weren't asking questions on Meta for a while. Why is that? :(
 
oh, not asking questions? got cold feet from my 2 bad recieved last questions (after a lot of well-recieved ones). Guess I lost it...
(auto-banning myself from meta asking :)
 
Hrm
 
Auto ban yourself before the system bans you ;)
 
10:10 PM
I don't want you to have cold feet from having a few questions poorly received tbh
Doesn't feel good to feel like you have to walk on eggshells just because you're going out for mod either
 
yeah, that too. But I usually get good feedback when I feel that something isn't right on the site. Not there... So maybe I should meditate more about questions, try to answer instead. The effort of answering is often more rewarded than the asking.
 
Well now I'm curious. What'd you think was wrong with the site?
Helps me get into your head a little bit as a candidate. I prefer this methodology over a questionnaire.
 
My question was about an user who deleted his on-hold question after having edited it. I feel (I may be wrong) that a signal encouraging him not to would have helped not to delete it (he had 2 reopen votes already and had done what comments suggested: the question was rather interesting)
Then Hans barged in and bashed me :)
 
Hans does that sometimes. Sometimes the right move is to ignore Hans. I feel like a part of Meta moderation is getting the balance of listening to Hans and ignoring Hans just right.
4
 
Thx, I figured that out already.
 
10:51 PM
Hehehe. Sorry to put you in the spotlight, though I think it right for a nominee to explain their thought process. That being said, I wonder if having an unpopular opinion really warrants deletion. If, as a mod, you'd produce such an unpopular question, how do you think you'd act @Jean?
 
I remember that question from somewhere.
 
It definitely was a question at some point...
 
:puppyeyes:
... yeah me too, yet reading the questionnaire answers, I don't see it. Glad to see I did not invent that
 
@Makoto any reason why you're not throwin your hat in the ring?
(sorry if you've been asked this already)
Oh and @TravisJ as well
 
Let's rename this room "mods pressure users into running for 2018 election room"
 
11:06 PM
They're just trying to prove that they can outdo the Magento election's numbers.
 
:|
Magento was a sad state. The top 2 rep users became mods, the runners up were all sorted in the reverse rep order.
Ah, nvm, lemme not bring non SO mod issues here. :/
 
And the bitter "people suck at voting" answer to the results post.
 
true
 
W8 you talking 'bout Trump again?
 
Trump was better
 
11:12 PM
Famous last words
 
The thing is, people think that being a mod is something that'd look good on a resume. But it's quite opposite of that.
 
Rob
@FélixGagnon-Grenier It's question #9
 
Yeah. I don't know how soon they'll have a new election there but they should probably consider raising the rep requirement to avoid all of the nominations :/
 
> What I need to handle flags? I thought that I need to answer questions.
 
:(
 
11:18 PM
Anyway, let's leave that election behind.
 
Yep. Sorry. Didn't really mean to get sidetracked, just talking about the number of nominees.
 
It was kinda my mistake as well, that I dragged it further :/
Queue almost at 2.5k
 
Let the flood begin!!!
@BhargavRao I'm jealous, when I drag stuff further it's not nearly as cute
@Rob heh, indeed it is. Thanks!
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier you'll soon learn ;)
Anyway, I gotta go. Cya \o
 
user3956566
11:35 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre what was the question? can you post a link (high rep users can see it)
 
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre oh he's good at that LOLOL
 
user3956566
@Catija is this on Magento?
 
@YvetteColomb Yeah. Bunch of 400 rep users nominated thinking it was a resume boosting scheme.
 
user3956566
@FélixGagnon-Grenier which queue is he referring to? I'm having trouble following this conversation - erm like I did in the Den - sorry about that.
 
user3956566
@Catija did they say that?
 
11:42 PM
The nominations seemed pretty obvious... they focused on their job history "I've been working in Magento for X years at Y company" rather than on any sort of moderation experience...
 
user3956566
ah ok
 
@YvetteColomb :) I assumed it was mod queue!
 
user3956566
@FélixGagnon-Grenier yeh I was unclear about that.
 
@Catija brb nominating myself on next Magento election
.... The joke being, I'm a terrible moderator
 
:D
 
user3956566
11:44 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier hey did we play practical jokes on each other ages ago in socvr? the rick roll?
 
The secret with good moderators is that really, they're just the less bad choices of the bunch. :P
 
user3956566
that and a willingness to do it
 
If you go into moderation looking at is as a popularity contest... you'll be sorely disappointed. Particularly on SO, the abuse from problematic or ill-informed users is the default. Positive re-enforcement is non-existent and (often) downvoted on meta because no one likes it when people are grateful to the evil overlords mods.
Everyone questions what you do, often because you're a moderator and anything you do when you have a diamond attached to your actions comes off as officious and heavy-handed.
 
user3956566
the mods on SO get a fair bit of support on meta. A user may blow up at them, generally the community is generous
 
user3956566
generous with support.
 
11:49 PM
Eh, there's a difference between shutting down someone using meta to rant about stuff and generally saying thanks.
 
@YvetteColomb meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/364693/… but it's not particularly a piece of art.
 
user3956566
never do anything wanting thanks, that's not a good motive to do anything anyway
 
user3956566
@Jean-FrançoisFabre thanks
 
@BhargavRao Can't really devote the time to it. I'm sure it'd be a good experience, but I'm quite busy as it is.
Also I want to see how far I can actually help without actually needing the diamond.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I figured that was some kind of compliment. Maybe it isn't. Someone regretted that I wasn't one. I figured it was positive.
@FélixGagnon-Grenier mods don't ask that much questions... or maybe in their chatroom.
 
user3956566
11:53 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I understand the sentiment - it's also a shame that the downvotes remain there, if the OP then edits a good question. It can be hard being new. It's a bit like coming into a rugby match during play
 
user3956566
@Makoto hahahahaha I just saw that, So funny. On meta it's like you've just been Hans slapped
 
I kinda wish he'd answer questions. He's insightful sometimes. Sometimes.
 
@YvetteColomb you have to make it right the first time, or edit so quickly that noone is moving on.
Don't worry, I'm not hanging myself over that one. After 3 meta Hans bashes (or 3 Hans meta-bashes), I know where the zero-level is.
 

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