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1:13 AM
@MarkI Wait a minute... did you say you bought a new computer? Does this mean you aren't going to explain why you're not working on the code because you don't have enough disk space?
 
1:53 AM
^-- it's another one of those "Electron" apps, so kind of anti-Rebol/Reddish due to the hugeness of linking a browser into the app, but people say nice things.
 
 
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3:00 AM
@HostileFork except when it fails to rebase half the time
restart application and it magically works
 
@kealist Grumble. Well SourceTree is getting worse and never better. I guess I'll play with it, these guys seem a lot sharper in general.
 
other than that, gitkraken isn't too bad after two weeks of use
 
So they probably respond to feedback, but I still resent using closed source apps
Looking at a bricked computer that lost me some amount of work (don't know quite how much, yet, haven't completely assessed it), reminds me that all of this could work better.
Didn't lose the biggest branch, it was pushed
But this reinforces my "do not use git stashes to store data" idea. Just, don't do that.
 
3:18 AM
I should start looking at the android build now that I have some experience
 
 
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9:52 AM
@kealist +1 !
 
 
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4:53 PM
@HostileFork I use gitkraken all the time, its great
 
 
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7:14 PM
@JacobGood1 Seems decent, going to take some getting used to.
 
@HostileFork I was reading the trello about parse changes, specifically about how it returns a block... I tried using renc with a simple parse, it did not return a block. Was that implemented yet?
 
@JacobGood1 Hm, I think you're referring to something that was tried and then backed out
Been a while since I've thought about whatever that was.
 
PARSE changes on Rebol3 Porting Guide ("Ren-C" branch)
# R3-Alpha >> parse "aaaa" [some "a"] == true >> parse "aaaa" [some "b"] == false >> parse "aaaabbbb" [ some "a" return ("incomplete") some "c" ] == "incomplete"
 
@JacobGood1 Yeah, I think I've come to not like the ? thing as much as I used to
Sort of junks things up visually, nice to avoid it
Other people have gotten into things like FIND? though, for some reason... there was actually a FOUND? FIND in older Rebols where FOUND? was just TRUE? and I hated that
I've got some modularization-of-parse-ideas running around in the back of my head to make it user extensible and to address some of those binding issues in rules
But for today I'll be happy just to get all the build tools and instrumentation and everything all together on the new machine. Just made a VS2017 build
 
hopefully a ren garden build is next =P
 
 
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8:37 PM
flag: ? find [a b c] 'a hm, there's a thought, if ? might be "truthy?"
It doesn't look that much worse than flag: find? [a b c] 'a, perhaps even better when viewed in some light, and it's generic so one doesn't have to go around specializing everything to make a LOGIC!-returning form.
@rgchris ^-- ? (I'm sure you will have an opinion about that.)
I've really not been using the ? foo meaning set? quote foo much, which isn't to say it's bad, just I haven't been using it
Still think the people wanting it to be HELP are being myopic about that, vs. giving it language purpose in code
 
9:38 PM
Or perhaps DID. if not find vs if did find? :-( I did say that with OF we should start looking for some more of these applications of short words.
 
10:05 PM
Was thinking DID before I saw your next post.
IF DID NOT FIND will also work in such cases even if it's redundant.
 
10:17 PM
@rgchris It's not the worst idea, and it's competing against TRUTHY? so the bar is kind of low
But it's definitely weird
Studying language at this level makes you wonder why we don't have a nice short word for the opposite of not. It used to be idiomatic in C to do !! (not-not) for "clamping" things to be zero or one:
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Q: !! c operator, is a two NOT?

JuanPabloI reading this code, and have this line switch (!!up + !!left) { what is !! operator ? two logical NOT ?

 
10:54 PM
If we could use unicode, it'd be: IF 👍 FIND ...
Could use 🤔: :IF as well.
 
@rgchris Heh heh. I looked over the list of emoji and the number of interesting ones for programming is fairly thin.
I swear, every time I try and install a Linux in a virtual machine there's some new esoteric tweaky issue, somewhere between the changes to Linux and the changes to VirtualBox.
 

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