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@Mikhail interesting idea actually
 
seems kinda cruel to expose kids to C++
 
idk, if you teach kids JS they're going to learn that "this" really means "that"
 
@StackedCrooked Can't be any worse that most schools...
 
12:04 AM
I suppose so.
I didn't like school when I was a kid.
 
12:26 AM
@RetiredNinja ohh I forgot about release mode, btw. WOW 100ms -> 4ms I didn't know that release mode is so powerful... — Michael 1 min ago
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release mode is so powerful because it's channeling Mysticial
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"release Mysticial"
3
 
 
1 hour later…
1:45 AM
you should never release something that kills the lounge, lounge doesn't want total peace, it wants ... discussion
 
2:06 AM
why does the way you said that sound vaguely evil
is it the...ellipses?
or the wants
 
@jaggedSpire not sure about ellipses, but eclipse is not too far away from you
 
2:27 AM
@Mikhail that book was a hit on the CppCon15's book table.. too bad every page in it begins with a void main
 
2:58 AM
Morning all!
I have a question. How would you convert char const *argv[] to char **argv??
Not converting tho, but rather casting it into a new instance with the new type :-?...
 
why would you want to?
 
@te
@Telkitty I'm using it with ros library
 
and?
 
and seems like in ROS, the init function seems to trying to mutate the argv const pointer
But I would like to keep the argv immutable
 
first you need to remove const cast, then [] indicates an array * is a pointer, you need to find out how to convert that
 
3:09 AM
thus, I'm trying to make a mutable variable that can be past over to ros::init
so to remove const cast, I would do:

const_cast<char*[]>(a) = argv;
@Telkitty I assume that's not correct :p ...
 
it's right to remove constant with const_cast, an array can be used as if it were a pointer to its first element.
 
Solve it :)
char** argvm = const_cast<char**> (argv);
thank you @Telkitty
 
3:25 AM
you are welcome
 
 
3 hours later…
6:18 AM
Sup guise
 
@Rerito The moon is up (barely).
 
Just looking through some old C++ source code... literally
 
Welp, I'm currently stuck at work (need accesses to systems to go further on the task I'm assigned)
So obviously I'm slacking off on SO
 
(By that I mean, I'm glancing through a pdf of source code for the oldest Cfront compiler I can find... for no good reason)
 
Oh, Donald Trump arrived in France and I saw images of him arriving at his hotel
He's never been closer to me (I'm about 500m away)
 
6:33 AM
Are you feeling a connection? :)
 
Not quite
But I think it's a good move from Macron to have invited him for the 14th of July
@JerryCoffin No harm intended, I just couldn't resist the urge to rant about MSVC yet again (about your comment)
 
@Rerito Oh, no harm done. And I can't blame you--their deque is a disaster. I'm not quite sure why STL or James Mcnellis hasn't just ripped it out and replaced it with entirely new code (or at least sent a bug report to Dinkumware to get them to do so). I suppose it's kind of a vicious circle though--it sucks, so nobody uses it, so it's not worth fixing it, so it continues to suck, and nobody starts to use it, and...
 
And the STL team for msvc is clearly understaffed IIRC
 
@Rerito AFAIK, it's basically three of them (plus Dinkumware -- aka P.J. Plauger).
 
nwp
I thought they did their own thing now and didn't rely on Dinkumware anymore for further development.
I can't remember where I heard that, might have been on CppCast.
 
6:47 AM
dinkumware is still a thing?
I remember using their docs back many years ago.
 
@nwp I suppose that's possible--the most recent thing I've seen from STL seemed to say otherwise, but that's not terribly recent, so things may easily have changed.
@Code-Apprentice AFAIK, it is--but it's pretty much just P.J. Plauger (and I think his wife keeping books and such), so it'll probably remain a thing until he retires.
 
7:03 AM
I don't know the name. I assume he created Dinkumware?
Does SGI still do their own implementation of the C++ Libraries?
 
One of the best rock songs ever: youtube.com/watch?v=B0jMPI_pUec
 
It's okay
 
@Code-Apprentice Yes. He'd written (and sold) libraries under his own name for a while, and then decided on Dinkumware as a company name (after he spent a while in Australia). Before that he ran a company named Whitesmiths Ltd., which sold the first commercial C compiler (as well as pretty much the first Unix spinoff OS, which was named Idris, if memory serves).
 
@JerryCoffin I'll add that to all the other mostly useless trivia in my head.
 
@Code-Apprentice SGI basically doesn't exist any more. HP bought them up late last year (well, may not have been officially complete until early this year). Not sure exactly what HP is doing in that area, or for that matter whether SGI was still doing any such development when HP bought them out.
 
7:18 AM
I have not followed any C++ stuff for a long time. I just remember using the Dinkumware and SGI docs back when I was doing C++ for school assignments.
At one point, I was using Borland C++ Builder as my C++ IDE. I used it to write my very first GUI programs, too. Borlands' Visual Component Library seemed so much cleaner to me than the little I looked at Microsoft's MFC.
 
@Code-Apprentice By the time VCL came along, I'd pretty much given up on Borland. Its predecessor (OWL) was considerably cleaner internally than MFC, so it's easy to believe VCL was also. Unfortunately, both produced what I considered some of the most brutally ugly GUIs imaginable. Crude, ugly icons, severely over-saturated colors, etc. I lost interest in how the code looked, because I couldn't stand using the result, and wouldn't even consider letting anybody else know I'd written something so ugly.
 
https://t.co/CXWuzY3tX4
@Rerito the whole album is pretty good
 
@BartekBanachewicz I quite literally and truly did laugh out loud.
 
@JerryCoffin the trope never gets old
 
7:38 AM
@BartekBanachewicz I'm almost tempted to sign up just to send a reply to the moron posting the Rich Hickey video as if it somehow proved something about types. For once I'd have a reply that would fit in their character limits: "I'll see your Rich Hickey and raise you a Simon Peyton Jones."
 
7:58 AM
Rofl, Borland C++ ... haven't touched that babe for 10 years
 
>:O close it asap!
 
although, from memory, Borland C++ had better looking components
I worked at one place where they used Borland C++ for the front end
such distant memory
 
@JerryCoffin I was more blunt
 
8:43 AM
future.then: not for C++20 apparently x)
 
coming in С++30 then
 
@Telkitty To me Borland is more like a legend than anything concrete . I've heard of it in books but that's pretty much it
weird
 
9:08 AM
It's a fairly ancient IDE ...
 
Turbo Pascal was my first IDE/language
 
had it's own string implementation
 
yea, Borland Turbo Pascal was the thing :)
 
in other news I started playing Osu! yesterday
 
C++ string back then (10-15 years ago) was pretty lame, VC++ and Borland had their own implementations
 
9:11 AM
got boring surprisingly quickly
 
If the problem was a simple misunderstanding of the Boost API, which I think is most likely, the numbers don't matter at all. Regardless, the snark isn't a helpful reply. I've edited the post to cater to your sensibilities so the discussion can focus on answering the question. — Chris D 2 mins ago
Wat.
Geez. Who's being constructive. Or jumpy. I'm sorry I spent the time. I guess? — sehe 1 min ago
 
geez
you've provided a sehe-quality level answer with a picture, and he's complaining!
 
@login_not_failed Well, TBF he posted that reply ~1 minute before I posted the answer. I was writing it...
 
and the question was only «asked 11 hours ago», so not only he got a quick answer, but a quality one
 
I'm not convinced that it's quality. Like I said, I randomly changed a strategy to - seemingly - get rid of the spike ...
It's helpful, at the very least.
 
9:17 AM
well, he was clearly unable to do it anyway
 
anti vaccinators: day 2
why am I even on the internet again
meanwhile our government is killing the independent highest court in Poland
 
@login_not_failed I don't think I agree. I think he's capable. I saw only an attitude jar, and that's an incident too :) Let's not jump to conclusions. If he needed join_miter it could still be a bug in Boost Geo
 
and my neighbour is complaining that I keep my tools in the garage I rent from him
 
@BartekBanachewicz ?
 
why am I even a part of society again
@sehe facebook shitstorm
 
9:19 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Complain that he keeps his tools (him) in the house
@BartekBanachewicz I'm so happy I'm impermeable to FB
 
@sehe apparently he was super rude to my GF and told her that "it's a garage not a workshop" (wtf) and that either we'll pay 33% more or we're supposed to leave
I'm torn between telling him to fuck right off and being really nice
 
Is neighbour Polish for "landlord"?
 
@sehe no, he just owns the garage I rent from him
it's not the part of the flat, it's like a separate property nearby
 
Ah. That makes him landlord for that particular property... Not so much "the neighbour". Oops. That's tough. Is there a contract that limits the use?
 
dunno if you're supposed to call the owner of a garage (or whatever you're renting but not leaving in) "a landlord"
 
9:22 AM
Because indeed if there isn't he's just looking to milk some money, I feel. And that's a simple "you fuck off" scenario, yes
 
@sehe there's no contract at all so if I were super angry I'd tip off the tax office about the untaxed profits he was getting from it
@sehe the downside is not having a garage for an undetermined while
 
That's... dubious. You are participating party.
 
@sehe the law protects me entirely in this scenario. The tax office only cares about the money flow.
but that would be a real dick move so
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, no need to combine "voluntary leave" with "fuck off". You could just see how he responds if you say "ok, I'll stop the rent next month".
That, to me, counts as being super nice.
 
yeah he'll probably backpedal
 
9:24 AM
You need to be convincing. So prepare to be without shed then :/
 
suckage
if it was right before winter I wouldn't care that much because I'd put all my bikes at work at my parking spot
 
Ven
Hi
 
Wait. What was that avatar flash, @Ven
 
but really I don't love the idea of having a motorcycle worth more than most cars around just sitting outside for a few months
 
That was weird. I saw your old avatar for <.5s
 
Ven
9:25 AM
@sehe I saw you talking about shed.
 
So, you did. Good job :)
 
@sehe cache invalidated
 
/cue Puppy: "Your face is invalid"
@login_not_failed It's been a while since I used timeline view stackoverflow.com/posts/45067757/timeline; nice in cases like this
 
9:42 AM
@sehe hey, I didn't know that existed
gosh I'm so sick of writing T = new T();
oh sorry, I'm so sick in Java of writing T = new T(); in Java.
 
Ven
probably mean T t = new T();
 
nah, I still think that writing quick and concise answers on boost tag means a lot
 
nwp
@BartekBanachewicz If that is your biggest concern it must be a great language.
 
@login_not_failed "quick and concise" and "boost" don't belong in the same sentence
 
@nwp it's one of the many, many, many concerns
@ratchetfreak it does if it's an answer from sehe
@Ven ye w/e
 
9:48 AM
@ratchetfreak ok, quick and concise by a boost scale :)
 
Ven
@BartekBanachewicz More t for the ts god
 
compared to non-boost code with comparable functionality, boost is typically shorter
@Ven also constants are called final
and they're not actually constants
but apparently I should be happy cuz I get those stream thingies
 
Ven
yaywn.
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@BartekBanachewicz They are nice
 
I still feel that this code is 20 times longer than it should be.
 
9:51 AM
@nwp You seem to be forgetting that T is never spelled like T. It's always spelled more like this
@Ven ^
 
Ven
I completed, last week, a class on java spring.
I needn't be told what T looks like. I've seen some shit.
 
@BartekBanachewicz s/in .*in/of/
@Ven You mean AbstractFecalMatterRepresentationImplementationProxyMetaphor?
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Ven
@sehe +BeanSingleton
 
@sehe this is short and concise in java, I'm pretty sure
 
10:43 AM
@sehe Nah he probably meant AbstractFecalMatterRepresentationImplementationProxyMetaphorFactory
 
11:21 AM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix This lacks a Manager token somewhere
 
 
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12:47 PM
@Morwenn .then sucks
give me stackful coroutines
 
Ven
banned
@EdgyAlpaca then?
 
edited for clarity
 
Ven
aaaaah
wait, is .then stackless?
 
well it has to capture the continuation
 
Ven
eeeh
 
12:57 PM
if it were stackful, it wouldn't need a .then, right?
 
Ven
@EdgyAlpaca you could still chain
even without a yield
(composition)
 
chain what with what
all the then continuations are necessarily entirely captured, hence stackless
 
Ven
compose functions
like .then = map/bind
 
that's the same effect, no?
 
Ven
what is the same effect wrt what?
map and bind?
 
1:28 PM
@EdgyAlpaca Wait for the call/cc proposal then?
Or use the one in Boost.
> Remove throw()? 1 | 7 | 6 | 0 | 1
 
@Morwenn I use Boost.Context :w
@Ven w.r.t. stacklessness
 
stackfulness requires compiler support to convert the function into a statemachine
 
1:44 PM
> Remove out-of-class definition of `static constexpr` data members? 0 | 0 | 7 | 6 | 2
> Undeprecate out-of-class definition of `static constexpr` data members? 0 | 0 | 5 | 7 | 2
 
@Morwenn what are the columns?
 
Strongly For | For | Neutral | Against | Strongly Against
 
has anyone else attended university courses that doesn't count lecture turnout rate but must have certain tutorial attendance rate?
 
nwp
@Telkitty yes
 
I don't really understand the concept
why are they not treated with equal importance
 
nwp
1:52 PM
The professor must sign for each student that they were present at least 50% of the time. Signing that when it is not true is illegal. At the same time they are not allowed to keep attendance. My professor complained about that.
 
@nwp bureaucracy at it's finest
 
for us back in the days, you can skip all the lectures which usually have 60 - 150 people in the same hall for the first two year, but you have to attend 80%-90% of the tutorials which only have 10-30 people per class ...
 
@ratchetfreak Not true, stackful coroutines can be implemented as a library solution, but brittle. Also the state machine transformation is precisely for stackless coroutines.
 
nwp
@Telkitty The lecture is about teaching you things. You can already know things or study on your own. Forcing attendance would be stupid. Maybe the tutorial is about showing that you are able to complete the tasks which is required to complete the course. (though that is called something like practice here. Tutorials are in addition for students who have trouble with the course work)
 
maybe big lectures are too hard for head counting
 
nwp
2:10 PM
 
Ooook, marking unreachable code went from an [[unreachable]] attribute to an std::unreachable() function for which you don't need to include any header...
 
Not sure why they thought an attribute wasn't a good idea.
 
because now they can annotate std:unreachable() with noreturn?
 
@fredoverflow Heh. The dog looks a bit more evil than Saruman.
 
2:18 PM
@ratchetfreak Which they intend to do.
But can you diagnose the behaviour when passing it as a callback? :p
 
At least you can't pass the attribute around.
 
in that vein why no make it template<R, Arg...> R std::unreachable(Arg... a);
give everyone a chance for UB
 
They wondered whether passing a compile-time string to the function was a good idea too.
 
@Morwenn like an assert message?
 
2:22 PM
> Send contracts to CWG? 15 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0
 
Ven
O_O?
 
@ratchetfreak Kind of. I guess that calling the function is UB, so implementers are allowed to assert with a message.
 
Ven
rLY?
do you have a link to the contract paper?
 
Ven
I thought attributes were not supposed to change the behavior of the program...?
 
2:24 PM
@Ven It's more along the lines of "the program shall still work when removing an attribute".
A program that reaches [[unreachable]] is not a working program, so removing it doesn't break working programs.
It's the same for contracts: if they never fire, removing them yields a working program.
 
@Borgleader No, I don't. I mostly do XAML by hand. That being said, from the little I saw and used, it's far better than the Visual Studio XAML designer, which begs the question: why don't they just make the designer better? Well, because those Blend licenses aren't gonna sell themselves. You gotta segment that market.
 
2:44 PM
@Xeo @StackedCrooked
> Reading this before I got out of bed I had to dash into my games room to check out whether I can install a figurine..... I CAN! ..... but it's directly over a 120mm intake fan. I'll have to glue a Barbie effigy of Marilyn Monroe on top and figure out which games make my fan speed oscillate between minimum and maximum to blow up her skirt. Hmmm.... priorities. Bless you for getting your mind right and throwing conventional wisdom out the window, an i9 with a 1050 - bravo!
 
Nice idea.
 
@fredoverflow I am going to be doing a small demo bit at work... Kotlin is't off the list of options :D
 
3:03 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Doesn't Blend come with VS now? (Thats what the wiki page seemed to imply, unless its only the paid versions of VS)
 
@Borgleader There was a "VS with Blend" I think
 
@Borgleader To the extent that it exists at all anymore, yes, it's included with VS (or is part of VS, depending on how you view things). In any case, it doesn't exist as a standalone product any more.
 
@JerryCoffin Right but my point was if it comes with the community edition, then its no longer a paid product at which point why dont they make it the default editor better. OTOH, if it doesnt ship with Community Edition wel...
I'll have to see at home if I have access to Blend with VS2017
(since I have the community edition for that, and possibly 2015 as well, iirc 2013 is the last version i got from Uni that was one of the paid ones)
 
@Borgleader Unfortunately (?) I don't have a good view on that--I'm a Microsoft MVP, so I have VS Enterprise...
 
3:18 PM
Microsoft Most Vexing Professional
8
 
-2
Q: Can't cause a memory leak?!

Florisin books, on the web, ... every programmer warns me Be careful with dynamic memory allocation! I understand that it causes memory fragmentation. But I can't 'fragment' the memory with the following script. This script runs on a micro controller (Arduino Mega 2560). struct myStruct { ...

/cc @Mysticial
 
@milleniumbug Couldn't be--I know everybody just loves me!
 
@Borgleader lolwtf
It's one to fail at not leaking. It's another to fail at leaking.
 
@Mysticial Technically he does leak because he uses delete, not delete[].
 
> Edit Can anyone who don't know what memory fragmentation is, skip this question. It is not because I called delete after new, there will be no memory fragmentation.
OP is mad
 
3:35 PM
@EtiennedeMartel That gives UB, not what you'd normally call a leak.
 
wow the garage landlord is really a total fucking ass /cc @sehe
I asked him what his problem was "we had a different deal, the walls are destroyed"
I asked him where specifically, offered to get down there for him to show me what I destroyed, and said I can pay him up for any damage I supposedly did
and he's like "I'm done here"
and said that "either you pay 33% more or go find another place"
fuck me I didn't need that right now
 
nwp
3:51 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I thought you now make the money you are worth aka. infinite. Why is paying some 33% more for a garage even worth thinking about?
 
@nwp I just did.
went to the atm, got the cash out, walked up to his apt. and said "he's your fee for this month"
I bet he didn't expect it
(the premium was ~12€)
it's monthly though so dunno, I suppose I'll still be on lookout for another place... but to see the look on his face was priceless. He didn't even say a word.
I mean it was a dick move to begin with and he could just say next month that he's rising it again for no reason
but phew at least that's settled for now
I mean if he was nicer about it and just said "hey I'd like you to pay more" it would be no problem at all
 
That sucks.
I'd recommend not paying up, under any condition. He's clearly abusing the fact that there's a non-legal arrangement there, and he'll do it again.
Besides, the "neighbourly relationship" went to shit regardless, so I'd take the potential inconvenience and politely tell him "I think you're looking for excuses to raise the rent. I don't think that's reasonable, and at the very least dishonest. I'll return the keys by July Xth". Something like that.
 
jww
I'm trying to locate a Linux distro that supplies GCC 7. I want to use it for testing a few libraries, like Botan, Crypto++ and OpenSSL. I'm aware of ubuntu-toolchain-r/test. The problem is, it does not work. Does anyone know of a distro which packages GCC 7? Ideally, it will be provided by default without need to perform additional installs or neable additional repos.
 
I wouldn't bet money he will change his mind, but regardless, you don't want to be in a relation like that.
 
@sehe it's just so convenient for me
 
4:04 PM
Well. The rent must be dirt cheap :)
 
nwp
@jww debian
 
@sehe 47€ now after the raise, so it's really not bad
and it's literally the closest garage to my place
 
Oh. That's ... laughable
 
@sehe yep. So I don't mind the raise, just the way he treated my GF (I don't care) and the possibility of future conflict. That being said, for him it's probably way more money so maybe it'll shut him up for a while
 
@JerryCoffin Yes, the icons were terrible, weren't they? Of course, Borland avoided using MS icons, probably for copyright reasons.
 
4:07 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I'd try to convert into a proper arrangement. You can have a written agreement even without official publication. It would still give you rights in case you need to exercise them. I'd consider bribing him (Sign here for €60/month)
 
jww
Thanks @nwp. I'm have a few machines Debain 8.8, and it does not have GCC 7.
 
@sehe he wouldn't like that because taxes
 
Signing != taxes
I know, because I have music contracts quite often
 
it would be trivial for me then to prove that he doesn't pay them. Without the agreement, I can't readily prove that I've been paying him at all.
 
Yeah, well whatever. I'd get out of an agreement that gives one party all the rights.
 
4:09 PM
no agreement is also a kinda recognized situation here
 
nwp
@jww This should work.
 
I'm not worried about he money. I'm worried about shit storms
 
Well for one I need to give him a couple days to cool off
and perhaps clean the place up a bit
the funniest part is I'd even paint the whole thing with my own funds if he said I made the walls dirty or w/e
 
Nah. You just "ruined" them !
 
the place was pretty wrecked before I even got there of course
anyway, nothing's preventing me from looking for a replacement, and again, if I get to winter the bikes will have a home for the next few months
one thing's for sure, when I'm going to move out of here I want my own personal garage. Or two.
 
4:13 PM
check the edit history
 
jww
Thanks @nwp. At the risk of sounding argumentative, I don't want Experimental or even Testing. Speaking from experience, there are too many stability problems. That's kind of why I am looking for GCC7 mostly out of the box, and not extra repos.
 
@Borgleader AHAHAHAHAHA
favorited
 
jww
@nwp - This just made my radar: Fedora 26 comes with GCC 7, and F26 was released two days ago. Also see fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GCC7. Thanks for the help.
 
"Instabiel!" zei de kat
Downvoted for attitude alone. Undid the downvote after last comment. Apology accepted, BUT no one is drive you crazy. You have to own that problem: it's in you. — sehe 3 mins ago
 
4:32 PM
> Post Undeleted by Floris
Huh? :D
 
@sehe That apology took me by surprise considering their previous behavior.
@StackedCrooked The delete / undelete happened quickly, seemed like an accident to me.
then again... they were trying to sabotage the question so idk
 
@Borgleader what the fuckin
altought I'd actually vote to reopen
the question is answerable
 
You could but its a bit late, and I'd remove the UB from the code because its a red herring and detracts from the actual question/problem
 
@BartekBanachewicz It is. But it's not a good question, and likely a dupe.
 
@Borgleader not sure if that's not too invasive.
 
4:43 PM
Can we have another reopen vote? So I can link stackoverflow.com/questions/3770457/… as the dupe
 
@sehe I think it's pretty OK (for a beginner) - and if it's a dupe, it should get a proper closing reason
 
Oh yeah. It's a poor question. They're fine.
I bet it was behaviour by OP that sent it < -3
 
@sehe which shouldn't have happened. The question score shouldn't reflect how much of a dick a person is.
3
 
I know right.
 
If that was the case, I'd downvote most of the Loungers' questions :P
 
4:46 PM
I'm not sure that the inverse makes this question worthwhile to keep, but I'll happily link a constructive answer.
@BartekBanachewicz That might be why most loungers rarely do (j/k)
 
@Ven You could have syntax sugar hiding all the then to make everything async
 
Oh it's locked now. :sadness:
 
Back to anime I guess.
 
Do mods get pinged automatically if there are enough rollbacks in quick succession?
 
@sehe Garage update: the wife of the guy just walked up to my door and said that he just got back from the hospital and, as she put it, "he's getting weirder with age" and told me not to worry.
@Borgleader I think so.
@sehe wait we can't reopen while it's locked? @BhargavRao why don't you come over here.
 
4:55 PM
Why are people so hard on bartek?
 
I keep asking myself that
 
@BartekBanachewicz by saying "shouldn't" you're kind confirming being a dick
 
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix mm? I upvoted it, IDGI.
 
I'm talking about your own question
 
5:00 PM
@Code-Apprentice Avoiding Microsoft's icons was fine--but couldn't they have at least hired a college kid to draw them instead of using stuff they found thrown away at a pre-school?
 
@Borgleader yes... and haha, looks like the OP got suspended before he could delete his account. Classic!
I don't think he's coming back to SO for a while. Unless it's to delete his account.
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh wait, it's not your question!
just looked at the history... yeah
 
5:15 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That... doesn't change much :)
 
@thecoshman What else is on the list of options?
 
COBOL
 
@sehe IPL-V
 
5:38 PM
Hi breeches!
 
Largemouth bass cats
 
@fredoverflow I think what sells it is the cat's facial expression.
 
Product Types Access advances through the committee maze.
> Do we want binary_semaphore and counting_semaphore in IS20?
> SF F N A SA
> 12 9 1 1 0
> Do we want atomic_semaphore (possibly renamed) in TS?
> SF F N A SA
> 14 7 0 0 0
Familiar template syntax for generic lambdas will be voted on Saturday for inclusion into C++20.
 
6:03 PM
@fredoverflow to be clear, I meant Kotlin is a a possible option... Java would be the default option here
But it's a small demo project that I'll be doing myself... so I think I might go for it Kotlin
There's probably not that much logic to go in it, it's a very simple service
 
Capture *this with initializer -> kill it with fire apparently.
> (the Chair pointed at the screen with a wooden stick and said 'Avada Kedavra'. Some EWG members expressed disapproval. Some expressed amusement.)
> We should be explicit that you can't handle array types that handle one eighth of your memory.
I love some of the comments x)
 
6:19 PM
Reflection is Godot.
Everyone is waiting for it. To solve problems with it instead of trying to solve them today another way.
 
6:57 PM
that's because our experience in other situations where reflection is available proves that it's a very useful and powerful tool
 
That's for sure. But I can't even remember how many papers were delayed because reflection may solve the problem.
 
good
why bother implementing 999 papers when you can just implement reflection?
 
Still waiting for use-friendly enum reflection D:
@Puppy But what if I'm dead before reflection is implemented? :/
 
@Morwenn Godot has arrived.
 
@JerryCoffin Not what I was expecting x)
 
7:00 PM
@Morwenn Well, I did have to include a typo to make it fit, but it seemed close enough.
 
> Do we need for standard new/delete to work in a constexpr context? 13 | 13 | 2 | 0 | 0
 
@Morwenn constexpr all the things!
 
constexpr threads for C++23? :D
 
@Morwenn I want constexpr operator=
 
@JerryCoffin For threads?
 
7:03 PM
@Morwenn For all the things!
 
We already have constexpr operator= for many things.
 
7:15 PM
@Morwenn what the hell is a non-atomic semaphore :)
(I get it, they prolly mean "lockless"?)
 
7:32 PM
@sehe One that doesn't work, of course.
 
7:44 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes have you tried 3D printing your own 22x22 Rubik's cube yet? Here's how not to do it (spectacular fail though, almost enough to try it)
 
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