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12:08 AM
Everyone, now that we have all our CVs back: Please take some time to go through the 90+ [cv-pls] request backlog: page 3, page 2, page 1
@Makyen @Fred-ii-, @JarrodRoberson, @Makyen, @Olaf, @PraveenKumar, we each have a significant number of active [cv-pls] requests. Let's see if we can knock down the queue a bit.
 
12:54 AM
@Makyen Working through the stuff. Is there a way to filter the already closed/deleted ones?
 
@Olaf This user script: UnclosedRequestReview.user.js will filter out the closed/deleted and provide some data about the question.
 
@Makyen sigh Why do you people assume we all have the same browsers? ;-)
 
@Olaf What browser do you have?
 
Rekonq. Any yes, I know it is old. Still fine
@EJoshuaS: Aren't such questions more "professional server/network admin" stackoverflow.com/questions/38031207/… ?
 
@Olaf Well... looks like you are stuck. There are multiple possible ways to get around it, but possibly the easiest is to install a modern browser for the times when you really want the convenience of being able to use things like user scripts. There's nothing wrong with having multiple browsers installed. I have at least 5 different browser installed with 20+ different versions installed. For testing, I'll often have several/many running at the same time.
@NathanOliver, @gunr2171, @rene, or any RO: Please remove this request. The request has the wrong links. A duplicate request was posted a few minutes later. @Olaf I'm not sure, but I think you intended to request it's removal here.
 
1:09 AM
Right i've basically used up most of my votes in that queue. im down to 12 and still have the rest of the cycle to face. Hope it makes a dent
 
@Makyen I well have multiple browsers. It is just that rekonq is the one I use for SO and most other usages. Let this apart, I generally don't like to install such scripts or browser extensions. Btw. you are not the first to tell. I just don't see why there cannot be a server-side filter. That would also reduce trafic. Nevermind, thanks for the info. I worked through the first page plus some of the 2nd now. I spare some CVs for tomorrow, though.
@Makyen Yes, copy/paste error. That should have been removed. Anyway, the question has been closed, all good.
And ^ replaces that one: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=37755141#37755141 again, sorry, was not my day today. I'm suffering from the weather.
 
@Nkosi and @Olaf, Thanks for spending the time and CVs. Yeah, I, also, went through all requests I hadn't gotten to prior to running out of CVs yesterday. I've got 18 left, but have visited and voted/not voted on all open requests. I usually reserve a few CVs for my own use during the day. There is, unfortunately, no way to set a suggested duplicate-target in the dup-close dialog other than to actually cast a CV. Thus, even if there are more requests, I keep a few until nearer to 23:59 UTC.
 
@Olaf Wait, there's other browsers besides Lynx?
 
@Machavity There are? No idea, I use lynx as rendering engine for rekonq. Found the alternatives khtml and webkit quite boring.
@Makyen Problem is I run out of CVs some hours early even if I don't work through the backlog.
The C and embedded tags are mostly rubbish dumps for homework or "debug my code/device" questions these days.
ANyway, I did some more questions. Please check my older votes; I think there are some aging away soon.
 
1:26 AM
@Olaf While there could be a server side filter, what is being filtered for is something that is more complex than what SE has enabled in their search engine. I doubt that SE would want to increase the complexity of their search. After all, it does not even do basic things like being able to OR search terms, let alone permit you to filter on the status of the post that is linked in the chat message.
 
@Makyen I'm not really a HTTP/PHP/Web guy, but I think I still understand the problems. Nevertheless, Maybe we need a more professional advanced request management.
 
@Olaf Your oldest active request is from 2017-06-20 09:14Z, which means it should be around for at least another day, if the question is not closed before then.
 
@Makyen Hmm, I really thought there were some older requests. Anyway, that should be handled soon. Problem is these tags are not very often consulted themselves. But there is no ther tag really fitting, because it is an OT question (I'd also accept TB/unclear as valid reason after the OPs comments, though).
 
@Olaf The problems is more: what does SE want to support (i.e. how much developer time/effort they want to pay for). Filtering for open/closed/deleted questions in [cv-pls] requests is quite a bit of functionality which would need to be made generic in some manner. Doable, but what is their cost/benefit trade-off, particularly when they already have people that will write, and most will use, user scripts which can give them this functionality.
 
The only answer shows nothing Wikipedia would not explain better when searching for "parity"
 
1:34 AM
To be brutally honest, there are lots of other things in the main site where I would like to see them spend some developer time first.
 
@Makyen I understand this very much. But then: what would happen if there were no voluntairs? We already can't handle the rubbish. Growth of a company as well as a website means one has tro adopt processes from time to time. And sometimes a major change is necessary.
Anyway, I'm off to bed. Good night everybody!
 
g'nite o/
@NathanOliver, @gunr2171, @rene, or any RO: socvr.org is down. It's displaying a message saying to inform an RO that it's down.
 
@Makyen sure you didn't do anything to screw something up? :)
just quoting the site. lol
 
@Nkosi If someone can screw up a website from the outside (assuming @Makyen does not have admin privs), it is broken by definition.
 
@Olaf I get that. lol. just playing around with what they have on the page when the site it down
It literally says that. lol
I love the minimalist design of the page. lol. it is very modern. lol
 
1:45 AM
@Nkosi :-) Unless you, or someone else is getting a valid page, it's probably not on my end. It's always possible someone is doing a MITM attack, but that would be a weird thing to have as what they did with a successful attack. @Olaf, Nope, I don't have admin privileges on that site.
 
Nope. I think its down. I get the same page when I browse to it.
now it is unable to connect
 
@Makyen That was the the first thing I checked. Same error for me, it seems. (I just wonder why/if the site does not send an email to a RO automatically)
And now I'm definitively gone for this night!
 
o/
 
\o
 
@Makyen yep, sorry. Was doing server stuff with the firewall
we cut or losses for the night and things should be back
 
1:59 AM
@gunr2171 np. from my end. I just clicked on the link to socvr.org as an easy way to get a link to a user script for Olaf. I just pulled the URL from history/bookmarks instead. The site just said to notify an RO, so I did. I hope that you were able to accomplish something. It doesn't sound like you got done what you wanted to, unfortunately. Thanks for taking care of the requests.
 
no problem. I should have warned people that we were going to breaking things
 
 
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4:33 AM
\o morning
 
morning o/
 
4:47 AM
^ looks like spam
 
Yeah
 
Already deleted.
 
5:14 AM
And please reject the suggested edit as it adds nothing to the question ^
 
5:36 AM
@AlonEitan, I happened to notice that you do not appear to be using the SECloseVoteRequestGenerator.user.js user script. If you are not already aware of it, it's a user script which will create [cv-pls] and [reopen-pls] requests from question pages by either checking a checkbox while voting to close, or clicking on the link created next to the "flag" link.
Obviously, you're not required to use it, but it might make life easier.
 
Hey guys. Looking for deletevotes on this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/44437378/…
 
5:54 AM
@Makyen Thanks! I installed it as described here but I'm not sure how to use it
 
@FelixD. You've linked to a comment. We can't delete-vote comments. Delete votes usually are in the format: [tag:del-pls] has no value to stay on site http://stackoverflow/q/12345 You should probably read the FAQ‌​.
 
I was inteding to link the question... stackoverflow.com/q/44437378/4610605 would be good if you could vote to delete it cuz its garbage ...
 
@AlonEitan do you see a cv-pls link right next to flag in any SO question?
 
@suraj No, I can't. But on chrome://extensions/ I can see that "Stack Exchange CV Request Generator" is enabled
 
@AlonEitan For Chrome, I recommend Tampermonkey as a user script manager. The user script should create a "Send cv-pls request" checkbox in the close-vote dialog just left of the "Vote To Close" button and a "cv-pls" link just to the right of the "flag" link on questions. I can make some screenshots, if you need them.
@AlonEitan Have you reloaded the question page?
 
6:02 AM
@Makyen Thanks a lot :) I was able to install it using Tempermonkey
Oh.. This is heaven
 
@AlonEitan I'm glad I was able to help. You'll probably also want to install some of the other scripts which work well with SOCVR. You can also take a stroll through StackApps for many additional scripts/apps which can be quite helpful.
 
7:04 AM
Morning \o
 
o/
 
7:46 AM
@FelixD. 10K can not delete vote that yet (since closed yesterday), I'm not even sure if 20K can (since not -3), you need to wait a day or 2, then 10K can vote
 
Okay, Valve wants the death of my bank account
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> 23 items from your Steam wishlist are on sale!
Plop!
 
@PetterFriberg Alright. Thanks anyways !
 
8:01 AM
@Kyll I've tried to avoid opening it for that very reason :P
 
8:18 AM
I am still at a loss as to how this, though flagged as rude, is disputed. stackoverflow.com/posts/44715623/revisions
^^ most recent SD.
 
@Nkosi probably a misclick
 
8:40 AM
You can ask on meta. It gives you upvoats, and it gives the mod who misclicked upvoats
 
I see more and more upvotes on off-topic questions like this. Also on answers to this type of questions. There's a lot of voting fraud going on lately. I flag when I see it, but it's not always easy to spot, sometimes it's just users who don't understand the site...
 
or trolls
 
8:58 AM
Well, diamonds have become particularly good at detecting voting rings, even if they have been around for years. All these accounts will burn eventually.
 
Yeah, they're good. Brad Larson and others really are heroes, fighting all this crap. :)
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451
 
@SmokeDetector spam-magnet question
 
or straight up spam.
 
9:26 AM
stackoverflow.com/questions/44717731/… should be migrated to drupal.stackexchange.com Why can't I select that migration target when flagging?
 
@FelixD. Because it is not a migration target. There is just a list of 4-5 available to us. Only moderators can migrate to other sites. Custom flag if it is a good question.
 
Alright. So I'm gonna flag this to a mod.
 
@FelixD. it is based on migration stats I dont suppose there are many questions migrated to drupal.se
 
9:41 AM
@TimCastelijns Doesn't look like a duplicate. I think OP wants to know if 2 threads can be created with the same function.
 
it's literally his question
if he means something else he should ask a different question
 
 
1 hour later…
10:58 AM
Morning. o/
 
\o
 
So, the users profile says - "Member since today". How can he be blacklisted already?
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Maybe because of this: stackoverflow.com/a/44719734/2227743
Not sure, though.
 
Spammer ids get blacklisted and tracked
 
@EricAya Ah, so he got black listed just 5 mins ago. Smoke Detector can do that? Nice. .
 
11:05 AM
And now they edited their question to "Python online tutorials and mocks"
 
@EricAya Exactly because of this. The exact details are in the MS page. (Blacklisted for what and by whom.)
 
technically most answers in there are link only.. ^
 
@suraj So del-pls maybe?
 
yeah.. I agree with that
 
I don't have enough reputation to vote at the moment, will have to wait for 2 days to cast mine
 
11:13 AM
Everyone does, 20k only helps at score -3 and lower.
 
ah ok..anyway no more spam answers can be added there
 
Who upvotes that stuff? 0.o
 
wow, getting out of bed kicking :P
 
or tool rec ^
 
o/ Nathan
 
Well, it looks like my meta answer has stalled. Not bad though. I'm in the top 30 answers now.
 
11:45 AM
and another 3 German job adds today. There goes SO back to the add blocker list...
 
And of course, the minute I edit "i" to "I" in some animal's question, I get two downvotes on highly upvoted answers. I swear, they're almost winning: I'm ready to stop to even try helping these morons... Fck.
1- Ask crap. 2- Get edited. 3- Revenge vote the editor. 4- Delete asked crap.
I think I've seen enough of this...
 
@EricAya 1) Relax, 2) Ignore 3) ... 4) Profit?
 
@AjayBrahmakshatriya Ignore?! This moron has put downvotes on good answers. Why should I ignore?
It's not losing 4 points that pisses me off (I've got more than enough) is that these illiterates assholes don't care about the quality of what's posted. They upvote off-topic crap and downvote good answers. Enough of this.
 
@EricAya I would say ignore the bad question. Don't touch it till you can fell out what/who you are dealing with.
 
@Nkosi Yes, I meant the same. Try to ignore the crap questions till you have significant faith (from comments) that the person is not a complete moron.
Although, the quality going down the drain still is an issue.
 
11:53 AM
There is nothing you can do to stop them from revenge voting so just try to avoid interacting with them. Lurk if you must. For me it is tough with my OCD acting up all the time. (should really get that checked out). lol
 
Yeah, no, this one moron has won. I'm super pissed off. I'm out of here. Let them rot in their filth.
 
when bad I lurk if going downhill I vote and move on.
 
found a weird tag ..
 
That too has knock on as when it finally gets closed they then revenge vote anyway.
 
I'm out of here, why should community suffer because one person doesn't understand quality.
 
11:55 AM
@suraj meta tag. burn it to the ground
 
Maybe SO needs a "go anon" for high rep users
 
@suraj haha is that people hoping to get free code given to them?
 
I once saw in this room someone mentioned. "If you are not getting down voted you're not doing your job". lol
 
how do I go about that? put in meta?
 
@Nkosi Yeah that's been put at me when burning apple
 
11:56 AM
54Qs, you can go on meta, or just do it in half an hour anyway
 
@EricAya Sorry to hear that man. Maybe spend a day away from SO before you decide to leave for good.
 
@Bugs it looks like this site: freecodecamp.com
 
Those quotes on that site are so false
 
That link is trashy
 
Very much.
 
12:03 PM
I removed the link. I'm keeping an eye on it.
 
^ Flags now?
 
o.O
Yeah
 
Yeah
 
ok so what happens now that some one edited it out
 
Mod gets to have fun. Hopefully (not really) the OP will edit it back again
 
12:11 PM
We could also 20k delete it, but I dunno if that's a good idea.
 
I suppose I could just retract the spam flag and delete vote
 
Would they still get the spam penalty?
 
I think they only get it when the post is deleted from the flags
The guy is talking to the editor this time. I retracted my flag
 
Floern's bot will watch it for me, let's see...
 
Does anyone know if a sentence can be overlined? Kind of like underline, accept the opposite >> X̿
 
12:32 PM
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Q: free code camp fire?

surajI found this freecodecamp which does not seem to have any usage guidance (wiki description) nor does it say anything regarding the tagged questions. eg. How can I complete these requirements?, Php and server connection It is clearly a meta tag which includes questions from javascript, php etc. ...

 
@CardinalSystem AFAIK no.
Atr least, not on SO without maybe using special unicode characters
 
@CardinalSystem Underlining is a common practice, but when would one overline a normal text??
 
for emoticons
For example, I could complete this guy's head by overlining it: (◌̣.◌̣) (Can't figure out how to under line in SO xD)
 
Emoticons are not normal text
 
12:44 PM
I wonder when Unicode makes LaTeX unnecessary …
 
It won't. Unicode can't do fractions, for one
unless it learns some stuff with zero-width joiners, in which case it still can't do nested fractions.
 
@JanDvorak Oh, they just define a codepoint for all possible formulas. Considering what they added the last years I'd not be surprised. As a result mathematicians cannot develop new formulas until the committee addded a CP for it.
 
But, the female surfer emoji is just surfer<ZWJ>female
 
morning!
 
1:08 PM
o/
 
\o
 
2:25 PM
@Fred-ii- There is no real reason to manually delete that. It can't be answered so it give the OP some time to try and edit it into a real question before the roomba gets it.
 
@NathanOliver they had ample time.
 
Falls more towards unclear.
A language is provided, but the requested contract provides no real sense of what is being made.
 
rene has started reviewing!
 
2:49 PM
@NathanOliver Hey, sorry about the freaking out this morning. :p I shouldn't have ranted like that. I guess I was in a bad mood and this guy pushed me a bit too hard.
 
@EricAya No problem. I'd rather you vent in here and get some advice/sympathy then rage quite and lose you contributions. Moderation isn't fun and it can take a serious toll on your psyche.
 
Eh, simple question, simple answer.
 
@NathanOliver Thanks. Exactly what happened, I think. I lost my cool and took things personal. I probably need to step back a little and just enjoy the site, instead of trying to fix every problem I see.
 
@EricAya That's a good thing to do. take a break from moderation and try and find a good question or two to answer. Or you could even go... outside ;)
 
@NathanOliver hehe :)
 
2:57 PM
afk
 
 
1 hour later…
4:28 PM
@YvetteColomb Wish You A Many More Happy Returns of the Day!!! Have a Blast!!! ☺
 
I have bought my dog a new car harness!
Maybe he'll fit into this one.
 
^ too broad
 
@JanDvorak: That too :)
 
@JanDvorak Too bread?
 
I didn't say that
 
4:34 PM
Did you mean that?
 
Nope, not either
 
@Compass Interesting. I know they term cars "horseless carriages", but I wouldn't have thought that a dog was strong enough to pull a car for regular use.
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My dog is big. Used to be over 100 lbs.
Now is 95 from a diet of carrots and meats.
 
@Compass what's that in normal units?
 
@Adriaan I'd have employed "sane"
 
4:38 PM
40-50 kilos
Strong enough to pull me through the air via leash if I am holding onto it.
 
@Compass your units are quite arbitrary if one single number can give you such a range of weights
 
I use a 2:1 conversion for pounds
 
95-110 lbs is approx 40-50 kilos
 
@Adriaan Two weights were given. Both in the 40–50kg range: 45.35924kg and 43.09128kg.
 
This dog will crush you!
 
4:44 PM
@Adriaan I guess you could have interpreted that as the dog being 95 years old, having lived that long due to a diet of carrots and meats. However, I would have considered that the ... less likely interpretation.
 
5:24 PM
@Makyen 3 y/o post attracting no new attention, we don't really need to close that.
 
@NathanOliver I agree that it's an old post, for which I would normally not post a [cv-pls]. As I said in the request, it was suggested as a duplicate target (in the question which was posted as a [cv-pls] here (a few requests earlier)). That, to me, justified posting a [cv-pls]. Given that I really don't care about the question, I have no problem with it not qualifying and you removing the request.
 
Oh. Didn't see that part, carry on
 
5:47 PM
^ too broad
 
6:00 PM
Hrm. Am I the only one who would have chosen to close this as Too Broad? My fault for not skipping an obvious audit (I was filtering on Answers), but it also seemed an obvious closure. stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/16513070
 
I would VTC as TB
 
6:24 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis Till code do us part.
 
6:46 PM
Too bread.
Well, that escalated quickly.
 
user177800
@PaulRoub this is why I never review anything anymore
 
@πάνταῥεῖ please don't request action on a post that you have a stake in
 
@NathanOliver Why not? It is actually like this. Though my answer won't fit into a comment. Should I delete it then?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ It's in the rules. If you feel its worth answering then you should not be close voting and you should not be requesting that we do as well.
 
@NathanOliver Okeh, I see.
 
7:17 PM
thanks.
afk
 
7:37 PM
rene passed a audit!
 
@PaulRoub throw a close vote at it, this will remove it as audit
 
7:59 PM
Gah
 
? @Compass
 
This Java question asks what value is stored in a boolean when you assign it the value of true.
 
*facepalm*
 
I mean, practically speaking, it's true. Conceptually, it's probably 1 vs 0 for false.
 
8:03 PM
MS Access uses -1 for true, well, yes.
 
If I remember well the rule is: anything different from 0 is true.
 
Using -1 for true has a small advantage in that all bitwise operations map to logical operations
 
I personally believe that true should be assigned to Ho-Hos, and false should be assigned to Donuts.
 
lol
Only 2 CV's left
 
8:09 PM
I think I average about 5 CVs a day.
On days when I'm active in here, maybe 10
 
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 5 hours, 49 minutes, and 16 seconds, averaging to a review every 8 minutes and 43 seconds.
 
I think my cv-pls average went through the roof the past days; because I'm studying at home I'm the first to see firealarm's reports
 
Should this be closed as a typo/unlikely to help others? stackoverflow.com/questions/44729240/…
 
Voted for typo
 
OK. And there goes the last vote. Just in time to go home :)
 
8:17 PM
@NathanOliver but then what do you do in the evening? :O
 
read a book and play video games of course.
 
@Adriaan drink beer?
 
@rene well, I can do that whilst monitoring SO
speaking about that: when will the fish be back so we can raid your place again?
 
Check!
 
8:20 PM
@Adriaan I dunno how long it takes him to swim around the world.
Not 80 days, for sure
 
I miss him
 
Yes
I was about to say you still have me but meh ...
 
8:35 PM
I love you @rene
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@BillalBEGUERADJ No sexual harrassment here pls! youtube.com/watch?v=PMd2HrY3kwk
;-)
 
9:01 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ That sounds a lot like >> youtube.com/watch?v=oTv22pBTj1g - I know my music quite well ;-)
 
Hello!
 
@NobodyNada \o
@Fred-ii- Just one chord off, yes ;-)
Zappa rules though!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Close enough to get a cigar ;-) Yeah Zappa's cool. Just make sure you don't eat none 'o that yellow snow now.
 
@Fred-ii- Sure, I won't!
 
hehe
 
9:14 PM
Best looking guy in town ...
 
;)
...and/or unclear ^ but too broad (for me) seeing their "but i am not sure how to pass the data to the form on the new view".
 
 
2 hours later…
11:06 PM
I forget, why does this happen again? stackoverflow.com/posts/14582538/revisions
 
11:29 PM
@TylerH high views but no votes on the Q or A?
 
11:59 PM
the latter, probably, but I didn't care to find out which one
 

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