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5:00 PM
We should linkify those
Well I'm not sure what I was expecting
 
Should probably move those out of the room, thanks!
 
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> don’t film your gangsta rap about drug dealing at your drug dealing HQ. But if you do…don’t highlight the address in the video.
 
@rdlowrey sorry, was commuting. we go through a lot of physical and mental pain to great lengths to make everything as automatic as possible. for php that means we will automatically install a lightweight tracing extension tracing to your fpm, fcgi or mod_php. any incoming requests to your app, as well as any interesting outgoing calls will get traced and include call stacks. you don't need to instrument your code.
 
!!rfcs
 
wow that was epic slowness
 
had to think on that one, @Jeeves?
 
It's wiki.php.net being super-slow afaict
I've looked at the code a million times and I found no other explanation
 
it's slow but not that slow
 
@rdlowrey We initially based tracing on dapper and zipkin and are compatible with open tracing (we have people in opentracing dev group) but since progress in opentracing is slow, we have our own tracing model by now. and yes, it works by sending the correct headers. also, distributed tracing so php to java or whatnot will work. as well as end user monitoring from the browser. all correlated in our UI, so you get a full path the request took through your app
 
5:06 PM
@Leigh machete trousers will spend a year and a half in jail, maybe a month or two more, if he didn't spend the last three in custody (he probably did) ...
pretty disgusting form of justice ...
 
@PaulCrovella It could also be SE back-off kicking in because it tries to do unpin/post/pin in very quick succession, but I don't think so
 
he won't even see a proper prison, he'll be in juvi ... with a fucking playstation in his cell
 
It could also be libxml being slow to parse page but again, I doubt it. It's not that big.
 
it's much faster for me than it is for jeeves
is he fetching every rfc page or something ?
 
No, just the index
 
5:10 PM
it must be something to do with se then
 
@rdlowrey for instrumenting a userland server I'd need to know more details. technically, it will likely just need our extension and some manual fiddling until I add automatic discovery.
 
I could reshuffle it to be a little more efficient, but not much
 
yeah not much happening
@Gordon are you going to publish your extension ?
 
@JoeWatkins nope
 
5:14 PM
if you get popular, you will need a team of engineers able to debug php, because any reports that are opened with your extension in the backtrace will just be closed, this already happens for a couple of closed source extensions ...
something to think about ...
 
@JoeWatkins I know a lot of good engineers able to debug php :)
but thanks for the headsup
 
@Gordon at work ?
 
@JoeWatkins on the internet :) Some of them might be convinced to join work though
 
if you're talking about r11'ers, there's not much we can do without source
anyone actually, but I assume you're talking about "us" ... we could only stab in the dark by looking at backtraces, and they would be wild stabs ... will waste much time ...
 
no worries, if it comes to that point, I am sure we will figure something out. we are very good at figuring things out and make them happen. that's why I love this company so much.
 
5:19 PM
I dunno about others, but you could convince me to help ... I'd much prefer it if the ext was open though ... I'm not sure what you have to loose by opening the extension ...
 
intellectual property.
 
Wes
cocococomboping @bwoebi @Trowski @rdlowrey what if the logo is not an elephant but another animal... like an amphibian
 
didn't you just say you aspired to use open (shared) standards ?
 
@Wes no elephpant? :'-(
 
to some extent. but I wouldnt want other vendors in the same space to just take our stuff and put them in their closed source extension.
 
user895378
5:21 PM
@Wes I like where your head's at but I feel like an elephpant is kinda necessary if you're going with any member of the animal kingdom.
 
user895378
Also, I'm on Team Mammal ... fuck amphibians
 
you know I don't know how business works, but if it were open, one of us would just fix it when there are bugs ... no contract, no cash needed, we would do it because it's open ...
 
maybe we will one day. but in this phase, we won't.
 
I just hate closed source extensions ... perhaps irrationally ...
it's very annoying when people open bug reports, and there is precisely nothing we can do to help, because we can't see inside some black box ...
 
oh, I can totally relate to that. I hate not being able to snoop into competitor extensions :D
 
Wes
5:24 PM
@rdlowrey though there are so many elephant logos in the php world...
 
well we aren't competing ... and if you use open standards, I'm not sure what you have to loose ... I can see very clearly what you have to gain ...
 
@DaveRandom I just tried it out in 110670 running locally and it's much faster posting the message. There's some serious sort of slowdown happening only wherever jeeves is running or the unpin is taking forever.
 
Wes
a frog? a croco? a geckoish thing? very colored, not necessarily green
 
@JoeWatkins legals is a bitch to deal with
I've been there, on several occasions.
 
@rdlowrey Classist.
 
5:26 PM
We had a problem where we needed to limit a bunch of text so that it's limited in a nonfixed size box, and add an ellipsis, without causing reflows (try it, it's hard)
 
@Wes give it a snorkel - instant amphibious elephant
2
 
@Wes It's a PHP library, using the elephant just makes sense.
 
We solved the problem very elegantly, I wanted to open source it, instead we patented it so that out competitors wouldn't use it -_-
 
Wes
@PaulCrovella AHAH
 
@MadaraUchiha /me grumbles
 
5:27 PM
@JoeWatkins I know
 
@JoeWatkins you and me are not competing, but we do have competitors in the apm space. none of the major players has an open extension afaik. The only open source extension would be Tideways but I know Benjamin will close the extension soon because of the same reasons I gave above.
 
that's annoying ... I've reviewed that, and worked on it, multiple times
a few months ago he asked me to review it again, but I couldn't find the time to do it ...
 
@bwoebi @kelunik I doubt I will be able to repro this one, but on the off chance this is useful information for anybody:
 
I just don't understand this way of working
 
@JoeWatkins If you have code contributions in that, they can't close-source it without your permission
Or without removing all of your contributions
 
5:31 PM
> Feb 10 16:37:49 GitAmp-Ubuntu php[12165]: PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted at /opt/php-src/ext/date/lib/timelib.c:42 (tried to allocate 320 bytes) in /opt/gitamp/vendor/amphp/aerys/lib/Ticker.php on line
Feb 10 16:37:49 GitAmp-Ubuntu php[12165]: PHP Fatal error: Uncaught LogicException: Cannot run() recursively; event reactor already active in /opt/gitamp/vendor/amphp/amp/lib/NativeReactor.php:52
Feb 10 16:37:49 GitAmp-Ubuntu php[12165]: Stack trace:
Feb 10 16:37:49 GitAmp-Ubuntu php[12165]: #0 /opt/gitamp/vendor/amphp/amp/lib/functions.php(46): Amp\Nati
 
I'm not going to be a dick about it, just be annoyed, quietly ...
 
@JoeWatkins Like a true brit.
👍
 
@PeeHaa this one has a fat FIXME in Aerys … the cause is the out of memory though
 
ooooh. is it just the nativedriver which does it?
 
no.
but you seem to have some memory leak…
 
5:32 PM
yes
 
fix that.
 
I am trying to find out what causes it
 
@JoeWatkins To be fair, I feel nothing for making it hard for companies use my contribution and gain profit from it by close-sourcing it.
 
Just wanted to check it's not something out of my control first
 
nah
 
5:33 PM
k tnx
 
@JoeWatkins to clarify: he will keep the current extension open source. but any future development will be closed development. But I guess that will be a whole new thing.
 
Why are people still using eval in JS? converse.js does...
 
Good evening, I'm looking for a pattern or "best practice" for when one entity's state (write open/protected) is decided by remote entities. Let's say that "Article" is protected by either a completed "Invoice" or closed "Project", these changes the "Article" itself to "protected", but how would one go about knowing "what actually protected it"? Is the best practice to add another field to the Article called "protected_by" and have whoever locked it put in an identifier there?
I feel like that solution doesn't really feel like the best
 
I'm going to make my own instrumentation toolkit, with blackjack, and hookers ....
 
@Gordon That makes sense, given that they can't unrelease code already released under a certain license.
Especially since they also need the permission of every person ever involved in the project to do it.
Best bet is make a closed fork
 
5:39 PM
It's a very general question, and the only thing i'm interested in learning about is the design of making it modular.
 
Assuming the original license allows it.
@Daniel I'd make a getter but not a field.
 
@Daniel I would just pass a dependency with a given interface to the Article instance
 
actually, I can't be bothered ... me from a couple of years ago would have ... but me from today is too tired ...
 
i.e. assuming the Article has access to its associated Invoice and Project object
 
I'm still going to complain about closed source extensions though ...
 
5:42 PM
@MadaraUchiha tideways is based on xhprof. it's all apache license, so no, technically, no one needs to be asked.
 
Ok, yeah i was thinking of some sort of "callout" for the article where it could just ask "hey who protected me?", and having listeners respond if they recognize that. The article itself would not have a reference to anything, it's rather the invoice or project that has a reference to it
 
@Gordon Apache v2?
You can't close source it even if you wanted to
Apache v2 is viral
 
@MadaraUchiha yepp
 
I was just afraid of the query impact, like if the article askes 10 listeners, they would each respectively check for "was this me?"
 
that sounds like a really strange way of doing things
 
5:44 PM
that's why i'm asking :D
 
@MadaraUchiha Apache v2 allows you to close source modifications.
 
why not have a service to which you pass: $service->isProtected($article)
 
yeah, that's what i'm doing, the problem is asking "who locked it"
 
how is it a problem?
 
@Trowski Right, I'm thinking of GPL
 
5:46 PM
@MadaraUchiha Yep. MIT and Apache v2 basically say do whatever you want with it.
 
because there may be more factors in the future deciding if the article is protected or not. maybe i'm just overthinking it
 
!!uptime
 
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@Trowski Still
 
!!rfcs
 
5:46 PM
s/an accident/an incident/
 
@Daniel so, you just now told me, that you problem is "I can't predict future"
that is not a problem
 
If I contributed code to an open source project, I still have rights on that project
And you can't change the license terms without having my permission, at least for my contribution
 
You can fork it and make the fork closed
Or you can remove my contribution and close the actual thing
But you can't unrelease already released code, and you can't change the license without all contributors agreeing to it
That's why it's such a pain.
 
hello world
 
5:49 PM
Unless Apache v2 has a clause that allows them to? That sounds unlikely.
 
@MadaraUchiha Right, so the code you contributed to has to remain open source, but as you said, it can be forked without your knowledge or consent because of the license you agreed to when contributing.
 
no, i'm just trying to make it such as if a new factor comes into play, it could just "hook on" and decide the state of the article, without anyone having to touch the article, or the service who looks up who locked it.
 
@Trowski Yes
 
@DaveRandom Did it work?
 
but yeah, i'm most likely overthinking, or even just making it more complicated for myself
 
5:50 PM
But that's how it's in MIT as well, AFAIK
 
@MadaraUchiha I don't think Apache requires the code remain available from the original distributor, but it allows you to distribute it.
 
@Trowski No, that's not what I'm saying
If I acquired a copy of the source code when it was open, you (the maintainer) can't tell me to stop distributing or modifying it, after you closed it.
 
@MadaraUchiha Right, that's what I meant.
 
@MadaraUchiha but no one claimed that :)
 
5:52 PM
@MadaraUchiha By "allows you to distribute it" I meant that Apache allows you to fork it and open source that fork (or you can close source it).
 
btw, all problems you dont have if you just stay closed source, right from the start :)
 
has there been successfull runs of aerys on windows?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I develop on windows
 
@PeeHaa cool. thanks. always glad to be remembered that I can't do shit
for a moment I hoped I wouldn't have to mess with cygwin paths
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier You are having issues?
 
5:55 PM
^^
well, mainly confused, just barely grasping what I am doing
 
!!uptime
 
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!!rfcs
 
I think it have something to do with paths, or well that's what php aerys -d -c server.config.php seems to say
 
I blame @rdlowrey's shoddy coding
 
5:56 PM
I'm wondering if it's somehow Connection: keep-alive related
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier You need help? /me is in debug mode anyway now
 
@PeeHaa I'm seeing this. pastebin.com/kcJcQE0V
hmm wait a second
 
Do you really need cygwin?
 
!!rfcs
 
5:58 PM
!!ffs
 
@PeeHaa ain't nobody got time for cygwin
 
@PeeHaa I don't think/know if I've actively done anything about it
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier is that canadian for yes or no?
 
hahaha
it's Felix for I don't know the hell you're talking about :D
 
6:00 PM
:P
My question is: how did you end up with that cygwin stuff?
 
I used cygwin a lot when I was still using windows
 
Just run that bad boy on powershell
 
there was no powershell on win back then. at least not to my knowledge.
 
I'm assuming this is just for development and production though
@Gordon And... wait for it.... it sucks
 
> Request took 66.375412940979 seconds
it's definitely the wiki request
 
6:02 PM
@DaveRandom Can you add chrome's user agent just for shits and giggles?
 
That's from microtime() on either side of github.com/Room-11/Jeeves/blob/…
@PeeHaa Yeh I guess
moment
 
neh it's not it.
When I do that ^ on requestable it returns right away
 
@PeeHaa I get the same message. I got there by requiring aerys, then running the demo command
 
My money is on Connection: close
 
cygwin is there and provides some stuff in my bash, like ls
 
Crypto negotiation failed: stream_socket_enable_crypto(): Peer certificate CN=*.php.net' did not match expected CN=87.238.48.210'
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 18:03:05 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: keep-alive
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.5.9-1ubuntu4.20
Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Set-Cookie: DW7fa065a06cb74b536c124cfbe56ac6d3=deleted; expires=Thu, 01-Jan-1970 00:00:01 GMT; Max-Age=0; path=/; secure; httponly
X-UA-Compatible: IE=edge,chrome=1
 
so about that dns lookup time maybe
 
I am going to laugh if it is a dns issue @DaveRandom :D
ha @PaulCrovella
 
That would be supremely weird
 
But funny as fuck
s/funny/sad
 
6:05 PM
> Buy Sid Meier's Civilization VI - Digital Deluxe
> WEEKEND DEAL! Offer ends 13 February
> -25% ---79,99€--- 59,99€
find the mistake
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Wait wat
 
@Gordon It's missing Portugal :X
 
Does anyone use an alternative file browser for windows they can suggest to me? My file browser is pretty slow
 
Are you saying you get this when running the server?
As in that's the output?
 
@pmmaga it does? well, then that and the other mistake
 
6:06 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier ^^
 
@PeeHaa euh... yeah?
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier How are you running it?
 
I mean srsly, it's 25% off and still costs 60 bucks? you gotta be kidding me
 
@Jeeves wait @PeeHaa what does this do, fall back to HTTP?
 
did I broke something in a new way?
 
6:07 PM
@DaveRandom Nope
Was my earlier request :)
4 mins ago, by PeeHaa
!!get https://wiki.php.net/rfc
 
@PeeHaa oh... oh... hmm. ok just a second
 
Oh lol
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Neh you are doing it wrong I think :)
@DaveRandom It confused me too for a sec there
 
Jeeves should probably be replying with those HTTP headers.
 
6:09 PM
@PeeHaa is this just hanging out forever collecting events?
 
eeeerrrrrrrr looks like it
 
errrm yes
 
Let me have a proper look first I am willing to say I am stupid
 
You two suck so hard at queues :-P
Use a deque
 
No waaaaiiiit
 
6:10 PM
yea I was about to say that
 
16 secs ago, by PeeHaa
Let me have a proper look first I am willing to say I am stupid
I am doing three things now
Pleeeeaassse
 
@Gordon It basically includes the first 4 DLCs, but yeah.. wayy to much.. also, not sure I'd enjoy CIV again after so much EU4
 
!!rfcs
 
I have a branch that uses deque that is uhm... again, half done and messed up pretty badly in fact :P
 
@PeeHaa let's forget this ever happened ok?
 
6:11 PM
!!uptime
 
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god damn it
 
3 mins ago, by PeeHaa
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Neh you are doing it wrong I think :)
yw
 
how can I tracelog an aratx request @bwoebi @rdlowrey @kelunik #lazyweb
*artax
 
ok people you won't believe this
I don't think I am stupid
 
6:13 PM
Stupid people never do
 
What happens @PaulCrovella is we request events from the github api and build a results object github.com/ekinhbayar/gitamp/blob/… every time
 
@pmmaga Buy Europa Universalis IV Collection 92,99€… let me think shortly… no
 
So that events array is just the result of one response
Hoooooooowever now I think about it
@DaveRandom That's also true
Maybe we are just piling up results
 
@Gordon Yes, they abuse the DLC model.. And that sucks a bit, but you can start with the base and work it from there :P
 
@PeeHaa The Success object there is unnecessary.
 
6:14 PM
!!uptime
 
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║ [8 seconds] without an accident ║
║   since [2017-02-10 18:14:43]   ║
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!!rfcs
 
success! \o/
 
Yup, Connection: close fixed it
 
6:15 PM
@Trowski Oh I see
@DaveRandom fancy
 
@PeeHaa Coroutines can just return a value.
 
Bit sad it wasn't a dns issue though tbh @DaveRandom
 
OK commited, now I am going home
ttfn
 
Is it bad that I have been programming for 5 years and rarely used inheritance?
 
@DaveRandom latert
@someone If you use composition instead it's a good thing
 
6:19 PM
I shouldn't feel bad then :)
 
@Ekin I cannot break gitamp by firing random requests at it :(
 
not sure if I should be sad or not
 
Yeah I had the same thought :P
Probably be sad
I don't know what borked it
 
I have no clue either
 
Every time it happens (that I have seen) is because of a request like this: GitAmp-Ubuntu php[12165]: #4 /opt/gitamp/vendor/amphp/aerys/lib/Server.php(555): Generator->send('POST /command.p...')
Soooooooooooo somehow who now have a couple of annoying bugs after today
Thanks Obama
 
6:25 PM
> elephamphibious
 
imma add logging
 
I can try to be useful in a bit when I'm home, but thinking spotting that one will be annoying/hard
 
yeah. Will just log and hope I catch it the problem goes away by ignoring it
 
:P
 
Hello everyone, i once asked a question earlier about having an issue with submitting some multiple array to mysql database, i really didn't get the help earlier, i tried fixing it myself and still not done that, am really running out of time. Please help out. I reshaped the question and made it clearer in this link here, please check and help me out, i need solution. stackoverflow.com/questions/42166228/…
 
lol
poor hamster
 
heh
 
@optimalresource TL;DR
 
@PeeHaa pls what you mean?
 
!!urban tl;dr
 
6:30 PM
[ tl;dr ] Literally, "Too long; didn't read" Said whenever a nerd makes a post that is too long to bother reading.
 
@PeeHaa tl;dr "I asked my question 4 minutes ago on main and nobody is answering me, pls give me the codez"
 
@optimalresource Just be concise
 
@optimalresource try to subdivide your problem. There's far too many code in your question
 
Wow, am really sorry, was trying to explain itt well, its a bit complex
The main code is the form and the php code
Pls use that to determine where i did something wrong
 
6:32 PM
@optimalresource No need to be sorry. Just telling you why not many people will be bothered to go through all that
 
Yeah, i figured that out, but i thought so at first that it may be needful, will take note for some other time
 
> <textarea name="cust_requirement[]"
this ^ should just be a normal name, because you have only one of these. the array will always have only one element.
 
But I used array bcos, if the user adds multiple fields, he/she will enter data into multiple textareas with same name
 
oh, that's what the jquery is doing
 
How do I go about it exactly, using a normal name, will it capture all the data?
Yeah
 
Anonymous
6:37 PM
@PeeHaa excuse me sir.
 
The jquery does two things
 
hey jayz
 
misread jayz there
 
Anonymous
Hey sugar nips, you can now squash commits on merge on GH - Will that do for my PR?
 
@optimalresource so does it actually adds the html correctly, in the form, and everything?
 
6:38 PM
It adds more fields for entry of new dress details, and it also controls the select option to show if a style code is available
Yeah it does
That was sorted this morning
 
great. then, on form submission, does php gets the properly formed form?
 
@JayIsTooCommon Sooo you are shifting the work to me? :)
 
That's where the problem is, i've tried to get the individual posts and PHP seem not to be seeing them, and so the array is faulty somehow
 
Anonymous
Yes. That is exactly what this is.
 
Anonymous
Buuuttt
 
6:39 PM
:P
 
Anonymous
It's easier than rebasing :DDD
 
Anonymous
And I'll send you a selfie as a thank you?
 
oh yay it even has conflicts now \o/
 
Anonymous
Oh fuck off @Wes
 
@optimalresource you mean, var_dump($_POST); doesn't show what you wish it did?
 
6:40 PM
gimme a sec
 
Haven't tried that
 
Wes
@JayIsTooCommon what did i do this time
 
Anonymous
You and your fancy uptime conflicted me
 
lol
 
If I do $PDO->query("SELECT * FROM table WHERE id =; DELETE FROM table WHERE 1=1;") would it still execute the second statement even though the first one is incorrect syntax?
 
Anonymous
6:42 PM
@PeeHaa I can solve that bit if you want, but if you don't mind squashing for me.. I'd love you very much
 
@JayIsTooCommon Fix it. /me is eating brb
 
@Alesana I assume so, that's the whole idea behind SQL injection attacks
 
Anonymous
Fatty.
 
@Tiffany Right, I just didn't know if they would have to correctly finish the first statement in order to inject the second one
 
an easy way to test it on the database is to use select on two statements
 
6:43 PM
Let me try var_dump($_POST) to see its result, but i don't know how exactly to do that.
 
Good point, that way I don't end up with my DB deleted haha
 
SELECT * FROM table WHERE id =; SELECT * FROM another_table WHERE id=actual_id;
 
@Alesana MySQL blocks multiple queries in one statement unless you specifically tells it to. if you emulate prepares, from pdo, that would work. stackoverflow.com/a/21190502/576767
other dbms have different default behaviors
 
I will test it now. An attacker could never know if his injection was successful though, right?
 
but forget that. you are running query. not sure how that reacts. bottom line, if you use prepares, and do not emulates, two queries will not be executed. moreover, since you wouldn't use concatenation, it will doubly never happen
@Alesana well, if they are successful, I'd bet they have gained something they shouldn't have
 
6:48 PM
Hmm I would have to test that as well @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
@optimalresource just add var_dump($_POST); at the top of your php script
 
Ah I need to learn more about sql injections in general I kind of thought that there wouldn't be a way for them to get output from a SQL statement
 
Ok, let me try that sharply
I think it sees the $_POST. This is the result; array(4) { ["cust_requirement"]=> array(1) { [0]=> string(6) "dsdssd" } ["sketch_code"]=> string(10) "iHaveStyle" ["style"]=> array(1) { [0]=> string(4) "5215" } ["submit_val"]=> string(14) "Continue Order" }
 
@Alesana imagine a edit profile form. It outputs my name when I save. if I change my name to '; SELECT password FROM users WHERE username='admin'`, and that every other setting works in my favor, it would then echo that instead of my name
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Pls check my reply
 
6:51 PM
@optimalresource please be a little bit more patient than 5 seconds :)
 
Ahh that makes a lot of sense. I was only thinking of it in terms of deleting things
 
@optimalresource that is the result of the post when you use jquery to add more customer_reqs elements?
 
hence, no, the jquery does not add the html at the right place in the form
 
6:52 PM
@optimalresource All your fields are called cust_requirement[] you just overwrite that value
 
user895378
@DaveRandom uh there's a terrible verbose debug option of some kind
 
@pmmaga, how do I go about it?
 
user895378
This was before we had nice options like async streams
 
@pmmaga that would create an array. wouldn't it? I use that from time to time.
 
user895378
@PeeHaa highly likely
 
6:53 PM
three elements with name="value[]" will create an array with name key having three elemtns
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A: HTML Element Array, name="something[]" or name="something"?

SohneePHP uses the square bracket syntax to convert form inputs into an array, so when you use name="education[]" you will get an array when you do this: $educationValues = $_POST['education']; // Returns an array print_r($educationValues); // Shows you all the values in the array So for example: <p><

 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier, someone advised that instead of array_map() that i should use array_walk_recursive, i really don't know how to try the array_walk_recursive, maybe it will help
 
@rdlowrey It's ok @DaveRandom fixed it already
You are forgiven
uhhhhm did the header on github just turn black?
 
I hope it gets back
 
@PeeHaa yes
 
:)
Stop changing the things I use please
 
6:57 PM
they're trying to be more SO like
 
> This branch has conflicts that must be resolved
@JayIsTooCommon
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier you mean they're putting white buttons on white backgrounds on a FUCKHUGE banner?
 

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