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5:10 PM
can we add that video next to the chat rules as our theme song
 
Then we should submit a PEP that adds G as a new hexadecimal number (I'm OK with adding a new one, but if people are being conservative I suggest replacing D, that has always been pretty meh to me)
 
Is it okay for me to be irritated and baffled at how the Pygame website is still being maintained and updated even though the most recent version of the software is just over seven years old?
 
DSM
Pygame is still a thing?
 
I feel like this is a "you should be grateful" moment. But still, the agitation remains.
@DSM In a matter of speaking.
They took their ugly old webpage and make it weird and dysfunctional.
That was recent.
 
Pygame has value in that it is the fastest way in Python to get from 0 LOC to Tetris. You're never going to make the next triple A game with it though
 
5:15 PM
But I think the thing itself is just a relic that idiots like me stumble upon every so often and mistakenly take up as a hobby thinking it could still be servicable.
 
Lack of releases doesn't indicate lack of continued use or usefullness.
For example, Pygame Zero is a somewhat recent framework around Pygame: pygame-zero.readthedocs.io/en/latest
 
There are plenty of really interesting entry-level programs out there, made in Pygame.
 
DSM
Isn't there a competitor pyglet or something? Or is it more like pillow?
 
I mean, there's also some really good stuff that uses BYOND.
It has some kind of serious limitations, but it still does its job most of the time.
 
Have there been any interesting developments in 2D game design in the last seven years that Pygame is sorely lacking? This question is at least half serious.
 
5:16 PM
Pyglet has seen renewed development recently. I like it, but it has it's own issues.
 
A team from our school made a game in PyGame and it got them to the White House
 
@Kevin Almost? People expect 60fps from goddamn everything now.
 
@davidism I have a feeling that was the one that @PeterVaro played with? I'm fairly sure he went through a load of those sorts of libraries :)
 
I'm content to get 25.
 
cocos2d python.cocos2d.org is written around Pyglet
 
5:17 PM
(n.b.: I also have no idea what I'm doing, though, so..)
 
I thought the human eye could only detect 24fps or something anyway?
 
I think it operates at around a 50ms interval most of the time.
The whole eye-brain complex, I mean.
I am completely prepared to be wrong about this, though.
I think humans can perceive higher framerates, but they can't necessarily process all of the data. I, for instance, get motion sickness if I watch something much above 45fps.
Also it looks like my connection is crap today and I apologize for missing comments/message dumps. x_x
 
@davidism ah what I meant is that you can type-hint an unbounded tuple, but you cannot type-hint a bounded heterogeneous list...
@wim yeah old stuff :D
 
Right, because there is no "bounded heterogeneous list." That's a tuple.
You can type an unbounded heterogenous list.
 
actually Finland's highest point was for a long time considered to be 1328 meters, but it was just because the place where the surveyors were supposed to put the marker, there were just some loose rocks, so they moved it uphill :D
 
5:32 PM
But I see what you're saying, because lists are commonly interchanged with tuples to do the same thing.
 
what I am saying is that PEP 484 agrees with my view on what is the difference between a list and a tuple.
(+ that it also has this unbounded homogeneous tuple, because unfortunately the stdlib abuses the tuples in such a way, e.g. in str.startswith)
 
@AnttiHaapala but if there's uphill, why was the loose rocky place the original highest place?
 
@AndrasDeak no, norway and finland had the borders drawn on map...
 
Ooooooh:D
stupid borders
 
and the surveyors then climbed the fell to place a marker there
and if the border were just a little bit to the other point, then the edge would have been on the top of a small summit...
 
5:36 PM
but it wasn't
 
exactly
because it was drawn on map first.
 
The obvious solution is to invade that 15 square meters of land
 
yes
@AndrasDeak OTOH, the border between Sweden and Finland has been defined as the deepest part of the river Tornio
so it is measured regularly, and the border moves accordingly
 
DSM
I just had a great idea for a movie! I call dibs!
 
wim
5:52 PM
You crazy europeans with all your fractal dimension borders and enclaves within enclaves ..
 
@AnttiHaapala nice, and ensured to be a fractal
 
Nagorno-Karabakh~ Kaliningrad~ Liberland~ West Berlin~
 
...as wim has already referenced
 
So good!
Dat Transcaucasia, tho
 
I personally find straight borders uncanny
 
DSM
5:55 PM
Nagorno-Karabakh doesn't even sound like a real place name. Sounds like something a midlist fantasy writer would come up with.
 
@DSM WELCOME TO THE CAUCASUS MOUNTAINS.
"Alania" sounds like a thing some guy made up. Some guy named Alan.
See also: Georgia.
Georgia, which is "Sakartvelo" if you live there.
 
@wim at least we're not so boring that we'd draw rectangles with a ruler :P
 
DSM
On the bright side, at least they have peaches. I think that comes with the name.
 
You're thinking of a way better Georgia, 'm afraid. -_-
 
DSM
Maybe that's why they call it Sakartvelo. That's a pretty good transcription of the sound I make when I find out I don't have any peaches.
 
5:59 PM
The Georgian language is an isolet no longer!
I am pretty sure you just explained a lot of things about Georgia, actually.
"No peaches. That's why."
 
Hmm... @Augusta which continent are you from?
 
Strictly, North America, but that's not where I've spent much of my time.
 
ah OK
I did take you for a Northern American, but mostly because that's what I default to
 
uuuuugh
 
If I have a one to many mapping table, what's the best way in sqlalchemy to get the ones for a given set of manys. Second question, does that make any sense? :P
 
6:10 PM
A lot of people love North America, which is good and by no means blameworthy. I am not one such person.
 
My schema is roughly sqlfiddle.com/#!9/75b37c and given a set of two ingredients, how do I map back to all drinks that contain those two ingredients?
I can do it in raw SQL via multiple EXISTS clauses, but it's nasty.
 
@AndrasDeak Et vous?
 
Europe
(Hungary, to be more precise)
and no, I'm not hungry, thank you for asking:P
 
Aa, cool.
Are you Hungary for Greecey Turkey? Well you better get Russian or it might Moldova!
 
Andras is a hungry Hungarian
 
6:12 PM
GEOGRAPHER PUN IS BEST PUN.
 
hurr hurr hurr
 
huehuehue
The planes on trains fall mainly near Spokane.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2682473/That-one-way-crash-land-Train-carrying-Boeing-737-parts-derails-sending-huge-plane-fuselages-river.html
 
durr hurr
 
@MorganThrapp why is Drink a different table than Recipe? (I guess a drink could have multiple ways to make it.)
 
True story.
 
6:15 PM
@davidism Because it seemed like the easiest way to map multiple ingredients to a given drink.
How else would I do it?
 
You've almost got a many to many table in Recipe, but there's no need for the id, just make the two foreign keys the composite primary key.
 
Oh, gotcha.
 
You'd define the relationship between drink and ingredient, then query using it.
 
@Augusta I'm stealing that
 
Although then again you'll probably want to expand this since an ingredient has a different portion and instructions for a given drink.
 
6:18 PM
@davidism Yeah, in my real schema there's a quantity column in Recipe.
This is a scaled down version of my schema.
 
@KevinMGranger Information wants to be free. Though not as badly as fuselages do.
I guess it's more like "Information would like to maybe be free sometimes."
 
It sort of matters because querying across a many-to-many is slightly different than querying across an association table in SQLAlchemy.
 
Oh, okay. I'm still learning this whole ORM thing. I'm used to just doing raw SQL.
 
I usually do use a separate id instead of a composite primary key when using an association table just because it makes querying easier. Don't tell Antti.
I'm going to lunch, but I'll make a quick example after.
 
recbg
@davidism I saw that
and no you do not need a separate ID
 
6:28 PM
@davidism Thanks!
 
@Augusta PunError, can't comprehend.
 
try: _augusta.pun(); except PunError: Humor.laughAnyway()
 
@AndrasDeak Andras' principle: everyone is considered North American unless proven innocent.
 
Hey now I had extenuating circumstances. >:I
 
yeeet another SSL bug
 
6:38 PM
I don't know how I feel about this. This has been approved to be built in my city: montreal.ctvnews.ca/…
 
That sounds like a lot of hot air.
 
@idjaw Aa, so you're in Montreal, too?
 
holy crap! That's awesome!
Yay more Canada presence
you're being taken over room 6, with kindness and apologies
 
I saw "Ste. Catherine" and thought, "Westmount City Hall's three martini lunches have wrought terrible consequences indeed."
But then I saw it stops at Atwater and was like, "O. Ha ha. of course."
@idjaw It couldn't be any worse than Room 101.
 
6:43 PM
I guess I really do need to get up to Monreal, eh?
 
@Augusta Yeah there is no way Westmount would allow something like that
 
@idjaw It was a surreal moment for me.
 
Why do people use dead-end URLs as the 'targetNamespace' in XML documents?
 
@Augusta Westmount still has coin parking meters....
 
@idjaw you should have something more special, like the fire-breathing dragon bridge in Đà Nẵng :D
 
6:46 PM
@idjaw They've been going over to the pay stations along Sherbrooke.
@AnttiHaapala There's already the perpetually-shabby-looking Ville Marie Tunnel and the eternally sagging spans of the Turcot Interchange.
Both of which I actually really like.
 
@AnttiHaapala hehe...I'm going to take some pictures of how Montreal looks now. It's quite sad.
Hopefully all this construction does in fact lead to something good. Because it is a nightmare right now
 
The Ville Marie is somewhere between "Fallout-Style Infrastructure Concept Art" and "Anime Flight Sim Tunnel Level."
 
can't get worse than my hometown :d
 
I'm willing to take you up on that challenge.
You actually can use Montreal as a disaster movie to save money on CG
The destruction is already there
 
You could use Vancouver as a horror movie setting to save on scriptwriting.
You don't realize what's wrong until it's way too late.
 
6:49 PM
city constructed a 70M€ underground parking area under the city, so that people could get to the downtown shops easier...
... and as soon as it was completed now all the malls in downtown are closing...
 
Seventy million euros? That's all?
Could be worse. It could be Boston.
 
it is a lot if no one ever uses it :D
 
The Boston Big Dig cost U$24 billion (if you include financin') for a tunnel network that [partially] fell down just after they finished it.
 
That big balloon corridor is a good use of money iff it's also the world's longest bounce house.
 
That said, it does receive traffic.
@Kevin +5 points for casual use of "IFF".
 
6:52 PM
... An object which I didn't know needed to exist until right now.
Man I'm making a lot of typos recently. No one told me getting older was like Flowers for Algernon in slow motion.
 
but the parking tunnel itself works unbelievably well, you can track your car by entering the register plate in computers and it will show on screens how to find it...
 
Even if we program the cars to drive themselves (and, therefore, eventually, to turn against their masters), we'll always be able to know where they are!
 
I answered Convert string type array to array with a solution that produces a list, not an array, because nobody can tell me what to do.
 
yeap,
 
I asked OP "do you really mean array, or do you mean list?" and he responded "array" but in like fifteen seconds which I'm pretty sure means he didn't read my helpful documentation links.
 
6:55 PM
so when you enter the tunnels, you can say where you want to go, and it instructs you to the nearest parking area via displays, but even then if you move your car around it still knows where it is.
 
Or maybe he wasn't even replying to me, but replying to the guy who commented after me asking "are you sure you want an array, maybe you want a dict?"
 
but then no one wants to use it because it costs money to park your car there, and they instead go to a supermarket outside the centre.
 
"YOU DID NOT PARK IN THE DESIGNATED STALL" "Oh, no, I found one closer to the stairs, so.." "YOU DID NOT PARK IN THE DESIGNATED STALL." "..." "YOUR SILENCE WILL NOT SAVE YOU."
 
@Kevin class array(list): pass
 
"ParkingOpticon v2.0 does not need sound to triangulate your location, We upgraded to thermal vision last week"
Thank you!! it works — John McKean 1 min ago
Mischief managed >:-)
 
7:07 PM
anyway, speaking of engineering failures, nothing can beat the Olkiluoto nuclear power plant
 
user559633
is that a challenge?
 
@AnttiHaapala I presume that this is the "potential failures" division and not the "catastrophe: achieved!" bracket? :y
 
has anyone messed around with Redis' Keyspace Notifications?
I'm looking to use it to send a notification to my service to have it do things
want to know if anyone has had good/bad experience with it
 
DSM
I was at a meeting so I didn't get the opportunity to declare that not only am I stealing Antti's brilliant movie idea, I'm also stealing "Your Silence Will Not Save You" as a title for something. (Not the movie, unfortunately, because it doesn't fit the tone I'm going for, but I might sneak the line in as an Easter egg.)
 
@AnttiHaapala haha, that's right:D
except if somebody uses English in such a ghastly way that I suspect that they're not a native (or exceedingly stupid)
 
7:15 PM
@DSM This information is less enthusiastic about being free. >:I
 
I can imagine a classic text adventure printing "your silence will not save you" and informing you that you've been eaten by a grue if you spend too long thinking of a command to give while solving a puzzle in a dark cave.
 
I wish there was some way I could capitalize on all of these one-liners.
 
If I had a dollar for every message I posted in here.
 
@DSM I hope I at least show up in the Special Thanks section. ;-;
Or even ordinary thanks.
Surely, that is a section, too.
 
DSM
"Special thanks to Augusta, from somewhere near the peachless Georgia I think but also she knows about Montreal"
 
7:17 PM
Best. Day. Of my life.
 
Mundane Thanks, the section with equal magnitude but opposite direction as Special Thanks.
 
DSM
Given my hobbies, "The real heroes here" is one of my favourite phrases in the last year.
 
I would just like to take this moment to mention that I really, really, really dislike working with HTML/CSS.
 
I like HTML as long as nobody can tell me not to use tables.
If I want three columns of text side-by-side, you can damn well bet that I'm using <td>s and not playing with automargin magic that only works in 13% of browsers.
 
I'm trying to dynamically add elements and have a button that moves under the most recently created element. It's... Interesting.
 
7:21 PM
I could probably do that. Subcontract me, my rates are very reasonable*
(*no they aren't)
 
HTML and CSS are okay. I'll probably learn them whenever they finish the first production release of them
 
@Kevin Heh, I consider it if the whole point of this wasn't for me to learn html/css. :P
 
DSM
Can't you just do it in dreamweaver?
 
The inclusion of javascript in the web ecosystem definitely implies that the whole thing isn't out of beta yet
 
dreamweaver is still a thing?
 
7:22 PM
Let me know when Lua becomes the lingua franca.
 
DSM
Lua's pretty simple. I wouldn't mind if it became more popular.
 
I've never actually used Lua.
It's a lisp variant, right?
 
Think JS, but less painful
 
@MorganThrapp no.
 
Oh. :P
 
DSM
But wasn't there some discussion a few years ago that what browsers should provide is a language-independent micro-interpreter instead? I wasn't paying much attention, I admit, so I don't know if I'm even describing the gist right.
 
@DSM the problem with such microinterpreters eventually is that it is probably even harder to optimize...
 
WebAssembly or wasm is an experimental efficient low-level programming language for in-browser client-side scripting, which is currently in development. Its initial aim is to support compilation from C and C++, though other source languages are also intended to be supported. == Design == WebAssembly is a portable abstract syntax tree which is designed to be faster to parse than JavaScript, as well as faster to execute. == History == WebAssembly was first announced on 17 June 2015 and on 15 March 2016 was demonstrated executing Unity's Angry Bots in Firefox, Chromium, Google Chrome, and Microsoft...
 
DSM
@KevinMGranger: thanks, that sounds like what I'm vaguely remembering. DSM -= 5; KMG += 5
 
8:04 PM
Cbg
 
@MorganThrapp here's an example of setting up an association object and querying it for different things: bar6.py
 
@davidism Awesome, thank you!
 
I probably should have put some explanation in there, but just ask if something doesn't make sense.
> Has Snark and Whiskey: tristan
 
DSM
Cabbage, Snark, Whiskey, Ffisegydd. Awesome indeed.
Okay, time to go watch the last two periods. Hopefully Finland will actually get some shots on net! Rhubarb for all!
 
has(tristan, snark).
has(tristan, whiskey).
that in prolog.
@DSM you jinxed it
 
8:12 PM
It mostly makes sense so far.
 
@MorganThrapp one thing you need to be careful with are the different cascade modes on relationship
wtf this sh1t
 
I heard my name?
I also must say, I'm slightly drunk after a works thing.
 
@AnttiHaapala I have no idea what that means. :P
 
@Ffisegydd yeah, Russia just scored again ^
 
@Ffisegydd no no... you're just imaging things...
 
8:14 PM
Are we discussing iceball?
 
don't you know it's rude to turn up when you're being talked about! :p
 
no, icedisc
 
That's what I said.
 
not puckonfrozenwater?
 
iceball is a different thing
 
8:15 PM
Pretty sure disc is a sublcass of ball that's been sat on.
There was free wine, and a man broke my pen but I resisted thumping him. I feel that I've levelled up in my Adultness somehow.
 
@Ffisegydd there is this lame-ass game that is played on ice with a unflattened ball
@MorganThrapp the cascading behaviour on the relationship specifies what happens to the related object when the one object is added to session, deleted, or if the contained object is expunged from a collection
 
Alright, I almost understand how this thing works. If I wanted to use a dynamic amount of ingredients, would I do db.session.query(Drink).filter(*(Drink.ingredients.any(Ingredient.name==ingredi‌​ent) for ingredient in ingredients))?
@AnttiHaapala Ah, gotcha. Right now, nothing is ever being deleted.
This is entirely on localhost right now, and probably won't get much further than that.
 
yes
@MorganThrapp remember you can use str() to see what sql it produces
 
Oh, I had no idea. Thanks!
That makes my life a lot easier.
 
8:26 PM
@MorganThrapp if you actually run it I turned echo on for the engine so it will show every query it's sending. I assigned the queries to variables so you could print them out too.
 
Oh, awesome. I didn't run it directly, just adapted it into my code.
 
@JonClements note to self: when I ever meet David Mitchell, ask to borrow his pen.
 
Alright, last question. How would I set the quantity field on DrinkIngredient?
 
Instead of assigning the ingredient to the drink, create the association separately: DrinkIngredient(drink=drink, ingredient=ingredient, quantity=91).
 
Gotcha.
 
8:30 PM
There's various other tricks you can do with the relationship and proxy collections, but I didn't want to get into those.
 
@Martijn I recall you making me somewhat jealous as he was doing a book-signing you attended?
 
Yeah, that's fine. I'm still absorbing all of this.
 
Like you could create a dict association proxy that maps the ingredients to quantities, since you only have one extra field.
 
@JonClements I didn't get to go to that one, in the end :-/
 
@JonClements that was much better than this icedisc
 
8:32 PM
That's sad - I'd love to meet him
 
8:43 PM
Hmmmm, I can manage to get results when I manually built the filters, but not when I do a generator/list comp of comparison objects, it breaks.
 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39583491/c-volatile-placement-new

Someone found a gap in the specifications for C++ and the language lawyers in the comments are taking offense at the question.
 
Is Django still a good framework for creating a simple API?
Wait.. I think I'm thinking Flask
Yeah, flask. Is that still good? I used it about a year ago but I haven't kept up. Was great for a simple relational DB + API
 
I've been using flask for ~3 days now and I really like it.
 
I wrote a browser to phone texting service with flask and it was the most beautiful code I've ever written
I'm excited to use Python again
 
Welcome to the light side! It's nice here.
 
8:48 PM
NodeJS is lighter :P
 
In that there's nothing of substance to it, sure. ;)
 
I mean, it's no ColdFusion but I enjoy it :D
 
@JonClements Really been thinking a lot about reading the Millennium trilogy, but I wanted to raise the stakes a bit so I went to the library and borrowed Män som hatar kvinnor, let's see how it goes :P
 
@SterlingArcher Flask is still going, still a good choice for APIs.
 
Kickass. This is going to be a cake project. If PyCharm decides that it's ok to run on Java 1.7 and not 1.8 -_-
 
8:53 PM
@SterlingArcher why 1.7?
 
Because my java installer is refusing to install the latest and it's driving me crazy
 
I'd rather only use something that refuses to run on 1.7 :P
meaning they're using the 1.8 features and it is not as buggy!
 
I thrive on bugs D:
 
Pantry moth invasion in our kitchen:(
Little yammers invaded the walnuts, found a few in the cereal and even ground pepper
 
wim
Question. Why exactly is sys.path[0] the empty string?
 
9:01 PM
@wim current working directory
 
wim
Yes, but why?
 
which, again, is a real wtf
 
wim
To get cwd, users should have to go import .myscript instead of import myscript
 
@wim so that you can do those pitiful "absolute-relative imports" relative to your current working directory.
yeah but it still doesn't work like that
 
wim
Unless I'm missing something, all this does is causes trouble when beginners to python name their script which collides with one of the many built-in names
 
9:02 PM
yes,
 
wim
and we can't hardly expect beginners to know all the built-in names
 
and it has bad security implications
 
wim
so, I ask again - why is sys.path[0] the empty string? what's the benefit?
 
note that, '' is only for shell
in scripts it is the path of the script.
which is still almost as bad as many things put a string into /tmp and run it in there...
 
wim
ok, you're right about that , but it's the same problem
 
9:04 PM
right after chmod 755 /etc?
 
@DSM lol, I guess I should be reading stieg larsson instead...
@AndrasDeak slap, /etc must have mode 755...
 
wim
at least, it could be in sys.path[-1] instead of sys.path[0], so that it doesn't shadow built in names
but , really, i don't see why it has to be in there at all !
 
@wim I wouldn't have it in path at all..
but as if I could decide
 
@AnttiHaapala damn, I should think about it more
 
@AnttiHaapala oh just sudo chmod -R 777 / - what can go wrong!?
 
9:06 PM
YES THAT!
 
once needed to get root into a server with world-writable /usr/bin, didn't take for too long.
 
then rm -r / since you know, that won't work without sudo, haha you so funny
 
wim
@AndrasDeak omg pantry moths are the worst
 
I'm starting to agree:(
 
wim
you have to burn down your house and rebuild it to get rid of those things
 
9:07 PM
The amount of projects I've picked up over the years where it's obvious someone just "wanted to get something" working and just blitzed public file permissions over everything
 
We bought some nice pheromone-based traps which work great, but they lead to a slow and painful death for moths:/
 
wim
that's the best kind of death for moths
 
I'm not too fond of torturing animals, regardless of their level of evolutionary development
OK, scratch that. I have a clear preference with respect to evolutionary development. My inclination to torture goes like this: politicians > moths > regular humans > dogs
 
wim
at least you don't have politicians infesting your pantry
 
not since we installed those fake-money-filled bear traps
 
9:12 PM
If you're on any moderately recent version of GNU coreutils, sudo rm -r / won't even do anything
 
how so?
is that elaborate trolling?
 
--no-preserve-root
do not treat '/' specially

--preserve-root
do not remove '/' (default)
That won't help you against /*, though
 
@AndrasDeak new explicit parameter
 
@KevinMGranger :D
 
But if you're on OS X... you have BSD coreutils. Oops.
 
9:14 PM
didn't know that, thanks
 
Installing python on windows sucks. It was a one and done for OSX and CentOS7 :(
 
@SterlingArcher then stop using windows
 
Of course... :(){ :|:& };: is a great smiley! Although - most modern systems will kill that with ulimits rather than crashing your system
no one run that though just in case
 
wim
s/Installing python on/
 
@JonClements is that a fork bomb?
 
9:17 PM
yup
 
inb4 "SO moderator hacked my computer" on meta
 
I mean no - it's a great, wonderfully great smiley to tell your shell prompt how much you love it for all the hard work it does for you
 
I really like the perl forkbomb-- it's just fork while fork
 
but that's too boringly obvious :)
 
wim
 
9:22 PM
@KevinMGranger the 3rd word can be anything
like,
fork while ffffuuuuuuuuuuu
 
Well, not to be equivalent, right? In a proper fork bomb, each invocation spawns 2 additional processes
"proper" as if there's a formal definition
 
user559633
lucky that he remembered his metacharacter placement on that tattoo
 
If anybody's interested in running Game of Life on an online interpreter of MATL (matlab-based golfing language by Luis Mendo): matl.suever.net/… (cc. @PM2Ring @Kevin)
3
(36 bytes if I'm not mistaken)
I don't know the details and syntax, you can ask in the matlab room ;)
 
user559633
@SterlingArcher Did the official installer not work, or are you talking about some libraries that aren't installing smoothly?
 
9:45 PM
Yeah, I've never had problems installing Python on Windows.
 
@AndrasDeak like a puff of smoke, it is no more.
 
thank you, kind sers;)
 
 
1 hour later…
11:06 PM
hey, @Luis;) I was just about to link to the proper MATL room on chat.SE :P
I completely forgot about that
rhubarb
 
11:37 PM
@AndrasDeak I dont think i ever thanked you for that help with solve_curve
anyway thanks a ton that was very helpful
 
cbg all
 
cbg
The one bad thing about making Indian food at home is that it smells like spices for a few days....not because I don't like it, but because it keeps me hungry
 
Python on windows (at least in regard to scientific programming) is one of the areas where Anaconda shines
but Linux is still way better/easier (and this is from a man who actually knows PowerShell and .Net)
 
rbrb all
 
@idjaw toasting the spices is the only way to make good Indian food though
see ya Augusta
 
11:46 PM
@Augusta Have you heard of this? I figured maybe I'd throw it your way since you're doing gaming stuff and, well, Montreal... :P
and rbrb :)
 
dude, I should totally steal the idea of doing pixel pictures with berries to get my kids to eat them
"Its Minecraft food"
 

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