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5:00 PM
@Closey session end
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@Braiam sessions no longer exist
 
@DavidArenburg @sam can someone help David with Tampermonkey?
 
sure
 
meh, I have no more close votes...
> You have no more close votes today; come back in 6 hours.
 
5:01 PM
@Braiam it records that at the end of the UTC day
 
Sam
Derp
Sure
@DavidArenburg Lemme know when you've got a sec.
 
@Sam Petter is helping him in campaigns. thx
 
Sam
Ah, k
 
@ryanyuyu Legos
 
@Kyll I want your job
 
5:16 PM
@gunr2171 Running a day-care?
 
playing with legos is always worth it
 
Came across a new answer from the guy who had all his answers deleted as spam yesterday... and it's spam! Surprised the account survived.
 
plus, you're an RO now, running a day-care is your job as well
4
 
report?
 
@gunr2171 shhhh! They'll hear you!
@Tunaki I custom flagged it with the links to yesterday's posts too, so the pattern is clear. Pretty sure a mod would be able to see them all, but.
Should we blacklist the user?
This is their sixth similar post in around 24 hours.
 
5:19 PM
maybe mod-flag is better
 
@Mogsdad My mission is to teach CS concepts to kids, including programming. I'll use the Legos to make dungeons into which they have to make algorithms ("Repeat 3 times: Move forward", "Push button", "Turn right") to allow their character to escape.
 
Ok, so we'll see how that goes. Likely the account will be killed anyway.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier @Fred-ii- @Floern batch014 count=22 cv4 is in the beehive
 
Dat question lol
 
@Kyll OMG, I was joking about the day care... I thought. Very cool!
 
5:21 PM
@Drew Lotta bees in that hive there Drew ;) Oh yeah, it's Spring! The time they all come out in formation.
 
@Mogsdad Well, I won't be teaching those unless it's to test the animations. My mission is bigger!
is almost burninated. People seem to have mass-edited it out of questions... meta.stackoverflow.com/a/319599/4174897
 
@Kyll That sounds awesome.
Hmm did that deserve an answer?
 
@Tunaki Well, it's the answer to the question. "Burninate [tag]?" -> "It's gone now"
 
in campaigns, Mar 20 at 0:03, by Petter Friberg
@Drew neither https://all3dp.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/154-e1434373100823-1920x1080.jpg
 
user4639281
Congratz @Mogs and @Tuna
 
5:24 PM
TINY!
Oops, no, I'm not excited.
 
user4639281
Hai o/
 
Hiya @Tiny o/ Thanks
 
Plop @Tiny! \o/
 
hey tiny o/
 
user4639281
I have to go out for a bit, but I'll be on later in the day. Just wanted to congratulate the new ro's
 
5:25 PM
Thanks, bud.
 
user4639281
@Fred nice to see you in here again too
 
I never did the same. Congrats Mogs and Tuna :p
 
user4639281
anyways I'll be back in a bit. Have fun everyone
 
@TinyGiant Cheers :) hope you're doing well.
 
See ya soon
 
5:26 PM
@Fred-ii- Are you registered with closey?
 
Thanks @Drew!
 
@PetterFriberg I don't believe so. TBH, I don't spend much time in reviews. I mostly spend my time on Stack helping with questions amongst other things ;)
 
@Fred-ii- Ok np, if you are reviewing beehive files, there is a nice new user script (that brings you to review auto), let me know if you are interested.
 
@PetterFriberg will do, grazie.
 
@PetterFriberg drats, there go my fun
 
5:31 PM
lol
 
lol
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 8dbd64ac on master, running for 15 hours, 48 minutes, and 41 seconds (tracking latency 30859ms).
 
@d.h. welcome. Let us know if you have any questions
 
@Closey room effectiveness
 
5:35 PM
@PetterFriberg 18 members (0% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 526 review items today, which accounts for 19.33% of all CV reviews today.
 
slackers we need at least 20% : ), maybe I need to go and review some....
 
why?
 
a low number is good
 
> If we see a reduction in size by 20% of the close vote and low quality review queue
I think you're thinking of a different 20%
 
Wait. Aren't we talking about the 20% kittens birth rate?
 
5:38 PM
Petter Friberg passed a audit!
 
@gunr2171 20% of all CV reviews today...
 
I mean, there is no need to hit 20%, but sure, go for it
 
hi drew...i'm just watching what this chat is about.
 
Hitting 20%
 
agree with drew, the lower percent, the less "concentrated" the cv reviews are from this room. unless no one is voting, then you all are slackers :)
 
... it seems that the user from earlier who was editing a bunch of posts only to remove the tag is responsible for the tag disappearing =/
 
@PetterFriberg The upcoming event will add a ton. It's been cool seeing how many reviews are tracked by Closey.
 
btw what are the tags mogs
 
hi @d.h. welcome
 
@d.h. Hi d.h., feel free to ask questions if you see anything confusing.
 
5:42 PM
Anyone for the welcome messages? Team page, FAQ, unicorns, etc
 
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@PetterFriberg 18 members (0% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 533 review items today, which accounts for 19.46% of all CV reviews today.
 
@Kyll who said you need a chat room and a process to get things cleaned
 
hi rene and mogsdad...what are those percentages you guys are talking about
 
@rene Dunno, probably someone who doesn't see how easy it is to simply remove tags.
 
5:43 PM
you are all reviewing the cvs of users?
 
@closey next 10 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Mogsdad The next 10 tags are: 1337, 36, 29, 26, 26, 23, 23, 22, 22, 22
 
@d.h. No, number close votes from the review queue
 
...still time to speak up about any other worthy tags.
 
@rene it count leave open votes as well do it not?
 
5:45 PM
correct
 
@d.h. Our bot has a feed from the SO API, monitoring cv reviews. It tracks registered users, but also the total # reviews across the site.
 
@Mogsdad ha ha ha, no it doesn't
nothing about Closey uses an official api
 
where is this bot running?
 
at my apartment
 
@gunr2171 Ok, wiseguy... enlighten me. I've figured it was a feed all along.
 
5:47 PM
in the closet?..., like undo's...
 
@gunr2171 Best place to run your stuff
 
@Mogsdad it's all html scraping. Download the html for a page, parse out what you need
 
and thanks for the clear answer mogsdad...so total reviews are about 20%
 
@d.h. Wrong answer FTW!
 
5:48 PM
yo
 
Plop!
 
wasn't there some months ago some talk about naming this place stack wars overflow, or something like that?
 
@d.h. Of all the review that where made to day, 20% originated from register users in this room.. the more we work the higher it goes, the more other people work the lower it goes...
 
@mogsdad what?
 
So we can not decide if its good that its high or low.....
 
5:49 PM
@PetterFriberg realistically, you want it to be lower. that would mean we would have a small chuck of the pie.
 
@d.h. We just lived out a miniature version of SO... I gave the wrong answer, Gunnr commented on it and gave his own, but you accepted mine. (FTW == For the win)
 
waffles, meh, super re-used joke
 
@Félix So, how 'bout dem Habs? Looks like an early golf season.
 
@gunr2171 Totale agree (I'm still chocked its so high), but its more satisfying if its higher... I review 5 post and it goes up 0.5% .... scary... but satisfying...
 
my point of view: we need more reviewers, not more close votes
that can of course be argued
but I'm glad they're running the current 60 vote test
 
5:52 PM
which question and accepted answer are you talking about?
 
@Mogsdad yeah, word is they won't make it to the series. without Price and Subban, it's a wonder they can even still play. Their team literally comes from the minor league now...
 
@gunr2171 I agree on this to but rene is not presenting the product well "number close votes from the review queue" : )
 
Almost 20k questions in !
 
@gunr2171 WBN to know how many cvs are cast outside of review, too.
 
@Mogsdad there is no way to determine how many close votes a user has casted outside the queue
API or not
 
5:53 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier The Sens don't have that excuse atm, but are headed out too.
 
@Mogsdad For the appearance of the room what is casted in review que is more important
 
@gunr2171 I know - hence WBN. SO would have that info though, so I'm sure it will be included in their analysis.
 
yep
"would be nice", for anyone like me who didn't know that
 
u no txt?
 
never had a text-able phone
also, I enjoy writing full words
 
5:57 PM
@Mogsdad yeah... guess we'll have to watch other teams going for the cup.
 
You just gotta brush up on your acronyms :-P
 
@gunr2171 Just more opportunities for spelling misteaks, if you ask me.
 
hmm gravatar seems to be slow to load atm
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Once all are from South of the Border, I stop watching.
 
heh. well, they still sometimes can play good hockey :p
if only they were a bit less violent
/sry for being off-topic
 
6:00 PM
I want the Flyers in the playoffs. Hinges on Detroit
 
Hockey is always on-topic...
 
Pengs or bust
 
tough loss last nite. Up 2 zip with a minute or two left
 
@gunr2171 I made a PR to SOCVR UserScripts repo, can you merge it?
 
flyers, really?!
 
6:01 PM
I am a flyers and bruins fan
 
afk... Timmie's run!
 
hockey??!! where you are from where hockey is something?!
 
oh well... there I thought we would be friends :p
 
@Gothdo @Mogsdad that's your area. Look good to you?
 
@d.h. maybe Canadia
or north of the mason-dixon line in the US
 
6:02 PM
@d.h. well, half the globe, mainly
 
we better be friends cuz PHP has 120 cv3
 
@Gotho Just at the moment I read the reply you did to my pull request, I see you in this chat. What a coincidence
 
quebec... habs fan here
 
habs short for habaneros?
 
Chara vs Habs. Love it
 
6:03 PM
yeah. great for cookiung
yeah you seen that hilarious commercial where they exchange big macs to habs fan with the condition of hugging Chara?!
 
the Habs had a stellar start of the season. Almost record breaking
 
lol!
yeah, it's a bit heartbreaking to see them so bad now...
it's as if every team in the league got better, except them
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier half the globe...so canada and russia you mean right?!
 
haha right
afk
 
Evening gents and ladies
 
6:06 PM
none of those here, sorry. Must be the wrong room :-)
 
afternoon!
 
@LinusKleen hi
 
wow, my work recently (the past 24 hours) blocked gravatar
 
@LinusKleen I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Hi again o/
 
6:09 PM
@Drew speaking of which, the file is pretty much dealt with, one question I had already voted on and another one I'm not quite sure I want closed
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I we could use some help. Maybe if we chat some where
 
come over to room campaigns
 
Hi just a quick question I got a flag pending for this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/36163740/…
 
@d.h. and?
 
6:13 PM
Is it too broad?
 
I'd go with "primarily opinion-based" or "off-topic > general computer"
 
@d.h. no, it belongs maybe on serverfault
 
I'm pretty new and i'm kinda struggling with this vote function
 
don't worry, the close reasons have a bit of a learning curve
 
but there is both a technical edge as an too broad edge to it
 
6:16 PM
so I'm not completely off with my vote reason.
 
Too broad works as a secondary close reason
 
Linus Kleen passed a audit!
 
@gunr2171 Is that in general or for this specific one?
 
for that post.
 
ok thanks for the info guys
 
6:18 PM
no problem. feel free to bring up another post if you've got questions about how to close it
 
sure...but right now I need to leave...have a good evening/afternoon/morning guys.
 
note to self: if you are discussing something with Shog, you better be consistent... Shog knows everything
 
Linus Kleen passed a audit!
 
@Braiam eh, on that point I think it's not unreasonable to take up a cause without having suffered for it personally
I mean I can support cancer research even though neither I nor anyone in my family has ever had cancer
but Griwes is being pretty petulant about it
 
@TylerH well, I've been sick... any research towards treatment and cure of any sickness is welcomed ;)
 
6:24 PM
@LinusKleen You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 5 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 15 minutes and 44 seconds, averaging to a review every 15 seconds.
 
meh, I normally skip the audits
 
o/
 
@Fred-ii- @Mogsdad @gunr2171 who do we handle this question stackoverflow.com/q/36019508
it has a circular close problem with dupes. Or just close it otherwise
 
@Braiam I pressed "skip" exactly three times during this review session. They were all audits...
 
@Drew close it as non-dupe
 
6:26 PM
@gunr2171 I tend to use https? instead, but it amounts to the same thing. Tunaki's merged it already.
 
@Drew Both are from the same OP. Close the one remaining as non-dupe.
 
thx guys
 
@Drew That's a first for me. Weird. We'll need a mod, I bet - there are 3 dupe votes, so it won't close for any other reason.
 
idk what to do with that :p
 
I was wrong... it closed. I voted "broad", it closed "dupe".
 
6:28 PM
meh, vote to delete...
wait... this will be funny
 
So we now have a loop on our hands.
Nice. Congrats!
 
waiting for eventual universal collapse due to circular dependency
 
shiiite
just realized what we just did
!!\blame
 
Heck, we can't vote to delete any of those 2 now.
 
See, it's started.
 
6:30 PM
That's a bug. It shouldn't have closed as dupe. Even if there were 3 vote as dupe.
 
you mean the no delv part?
 
2 mins ago, by Braiam
wait... this will be funny
I knew that :D
 
And, they won't be roombad, because dupe.
 
@Mogsdad we reopen it?
 
Oooh.
 
6:31 PM
I think we need to.
 
do you have the 5 votes needed to close it, again?
 
We need to reopen that one stackoverflow.com/q/36019508/1743880
 
Wait? How did you do that?
 
clears all those guys, they cant vote for 14 days or sumpin
 
And delete it I say.
 
6:32 PM
yes
 
It's the same question posted by the same OP.
 
I had voted to close, so I've voted to reopen, because I can't re-close anyway.
 
2 reopen votes remaining
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier and @JAL - you're in the same boat, care to reopen?
 
@Tunaki 1
 
6:33 PM
@Tunaki reopened
 
JAL
sure, thanks for reopening
 
This is going to be one more declined flag for me, I bet...
 
@AlexanderO'Mara that's my bad on your meta question.
 
now... delete the other!
 
I'll test on my own stuff.
 
6:34 PM
so that roomba can delete the reopened one when it gets closed
 
2 votes remaining on that one stackoverflow.com/q/36015439/1743880
 
@ryanyuyu That's ok.
 
@Drew I know nothing about Laravel.
 
We broke out of the inifinite loop.
\o/
 
You can see what happened with those questions. Rizier dupe-hammered the older question that was already the target of dupe votes on the newer question.
 
6:36 PM
Yep, he should have hammered the other way around
 
meh, I would have closed both as non-dupes
 
@Tunaki do we reopen another one?
 
which one?
 
you said hammered the other way around
 
it's deleted now
 
6:39 PM
aaaand gravatar is no longer blocked at work, weird
maybe it's an auto block thing that happens based on number of requests that bounce through
 
@Drew Generally, if a user re-posts a question to get more attention, it should be closed as a dupe to their original, with advice about how to promote your question. Rizier went the other way.
 
I am simply asking do any of you want to focus on some effort to get the end state different than it is now?
if so, what?
 
Sometimes, a re-post is warranted because the original has been downvoted to hell, and won't recover. If the new question is clear and on-topic, the old one should be closed for an appropriate reason, but not dupe.
 
we could throw 5 votes at this one stackoverflow.com/q/36019508/1743880 but it'll be roombad
 
@Drew We've ended up with one question, the one that had the most info in it, and which has answers. We're done here.
 
6:42 PM
@Tunaki not if someone upvotes all the answers >:-)
 
ok thx mogz
 
w
 
"Roombad"... is that another suggestion for a name?
 
x
 
@Mogsdad I am against that
@Tunaki no, because it has answers >0. Score <0 questions to be cleaned should have no answers
 
6:44 PM
@Braiam I'm listening...
 
@Mogsdad if you know the question is bad, using a close reason is more productive
duplicating just adds more work for the ones cleaning afterwards
 
so we delete the crappy one
 
@Braiam Yet; the re-asked question IS a duplicate. Closing for any other reason would not give the correct feedback to the user. It's more convenient for custodians, granted.
 
@Mogsdad but, what purpose serve the reasked question?
 
Just keep the one that has good content (incl an answer) if it so exists
And can the other one
 
6:50 PM
@Braiam I understand your question to be, "What is the reason for re-asking a question?" Correct me if I got that wrong. An OP may ask again because they didn't get answers to their first try, or did but didn't like the answers.
I've seen a case recently where the same question was asked every 2 hours or so, four times.
 
@Mogsdad no, what benefit does the site have keeping a word by word duplicate pointing to the other? "Searching", obviously no.
 
@Braiam Ah - no lasting value. Temporary feedback to OP, is all.
So, the next thing to do is to delete it.
Same as if you'd chosen a different reason.
Ideally, the OP would self-delete it, saving a bit of bother.
 
@Mogsdad maybe roomba can delete duplicates if the question they are pointing is asked by the same op?
 
thx for the edit @ryanyuyu
 
user4151918
OP has run into a problem but isn't posting code. Not sure how they can be helped, unless an Apple engineer explains the reason for that warning. stackoverflow.com/q/36177578/4151918
 
6:56 PM
@Mogsdad maybe roomba can delete duplicates if the question they are pointing is asked by the same op?
 
Anyone getting Oops something bad happened for NATO?
 
chat just got a hiccup
 
@Braiam THAT would be a reasonable rule to add to the Roomba. Doesn't the OP get a notification & chance to concur with a duplicate? Maybe that action could lead to deletion automatically, if the dupe-target was their own question?
They've had DB problems today, according to the twitter feed.
 
@PetahChristian reading ...
 
@rene no problem. That's what I'm here for.
 
7:02 PM
I'm interested in the re-ask problem, but not enough to put more into it today. FTR (that's for-the-record, Gunr ;), there are many questions on Meta about it, but nothing guiding custodial actions. General agreement wrt "don't do that".
But... that post is OLD!
 
@PetahChristian I see what you mean but I don't think that question is so bad it needs to be closed. It has just enough context I think to give that question a chance
 
@Mogsdad Another NAA on that post a few minutes ago
 
So, just kicked a re-scan, then.
 
user4151918
Ok, thanks :) Should I retract my off-topic close vote?
 
@Mogsdad Nah, The post went to active queue and was thus caught by smokey
 
7:09 PM
What about that last reported answer? Looks OK to me.
 
Thanks to Gothdo's review finder, when looking at a bad answer you can see the link to its first post review, and see who let the junk through the net!
 
@PetahChristian you're free to vote, I'm only explaining why I won't follow your vote.
 
@LinusKleen It is OK - so don't blindly trust SmokeDetector reports!
 
@Mogsdad What makes you think I do
 
Can anyone tell me what on earth a "mus script" is? stackoverflow.com/questions/36186598/…
 
7:11 PM
@Mogsdad Wait, wut, oh ....
@AlexanderO'Mara Microsoft Update Server? I'm joking ...
 
@LinusKleen The fact you asked proves you don't, and I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Simply posting a reminder for everyone. The chat's conversation-link feature makes it appear I was only talking to you.
 
This is the third time this url is caught. :/
 
Caught an unclear question this time, at least.
 
Hi guys, I think this is the right place to ask this. My tag badges are not updating. Recently, I have been very active in the regex tag. As you can see here (my user ID is 5620297), I have 20 votes and 19 answers, however, on my profile it says I have a score of 0, and only one answer,
I did see a question on meta about this, however that was over a month ago and I thought it has been fixed
 
@Druzion no is not, is Meta Stack Overflow and anyways, it's known that the tag scripts can stale for weeks
 
7:24 PM
@Braiam Okay, thanks! So I assume I just need to wait
 
I think there is a 3 hour or so delay on tag updates
 
@gunr2171 Yes, but I have been waiting over a week. Anyway, I'll most on Meta. Thanks guys
 
@Druzion Wait wait, Did you refresh. That'll just solve it
 
@BhargavRao seems to be a comment on the highest scored answer
 
@Druzion I see 18 answers for in your profile.
 
7:28 PM
@BhargavRao Yes, it is
 
Fine; Will flag. Danke
 
@BhargavRao And have a waffle.
 
This looks like a comment on another answer, rather than a full independent solution. Please use the answers section only for it's intended purpose. — gunr2171 29 secs ago
 
Lol :D
@Druzion reminded me that I should refresh my count. It is at 700 since 30 days, mine's gone to 718
 
@LinusKleen Mmmmmm...... It seems when I view my profile logged out, I see what you see. However, loggedin, in 'Track my next badge' I only see a Score of 1
Bye
 
7:33 PM
@Druzion Click on the gear, Click on tag; Trust me it will work
 
JAL
that is going to attract crap really quickly
This question isn't a good fit for Stack Overflow because its answers can only be based on opinion and preference, not fact. — JAL 6 secs ago
^ that sound ok?
 
@JAL Or you'd say swiftly
 
JAL
@BhargavRao ughhh
 
@JAL Do we close this one as Cannot reproduce? (see the comments)
 
JAL
@EricD. yes, looks like it to me
 
7:39 PM
ok
 
@BhargavRao slow clap
 
@Mogs you able to open NATO?
 
@BhargavRao Slow, but yes.
 
I've got like 4 flags left and I want to sleep.
 
7:49 PM
What happens if you go to bed without using those flags? Pretty sure the sun will come up tomorrow...
 
Nope, I tried a few days ago. A blizzard struck
Anyway down to 1. So not a problem anymore.
 
Ah. Serious, then.
 
Yeah.
 
@BhargavRao you look very surprised
 
Just so I understand: this means No, right?
 
7:51 PM
@Adriaan Lol, That's me exactly :P
 
@rene It's a grudging "no"
 
Kinda of a "no" with built-in whining.
 
are we eventing in a lot of jiffies?
 
@Closey status
 
7:55 PM
SOCVR Chatbot, running at nagato v2 docker, version 8dbd64ac on master, running for 18 hours, 10 minutes, and 20 seconds (tracking latency 30188ms).
 
@rene It means "No, it's not too many to manually retag, but it doesn't matter anyway because it already maps to ".
 
OK
 
@Closey oioi, that's quite a bit of delay
 
@closey opt in
 
@AndrasDeak You have opted-in to tracking, and will remain this way until you run opt out.
 
7:56 PM
thank you
 
JAL
@rene wait, are uitableview and uitableviewcell now synonyms?
i'm not sure i agree with that
 
That would be another question!
 
@Adriaan Yeah, if it becomes more than a day @gunr2171 has to move closer to NY
 
they are so not synonyms
 
@rene or to here. I live practically on top of the transatlantic cable :P
 
7:57 PM
@Drew Ready with py dupe batch? (I guess I will go with [guidelines] and do the py dupe batch tomorrow)
 
@Adriaan I assume ping times in NY are still better ;)
 
@rene could be, but then you'd have to live in 'Murica...
 
@Adriaan yeah better stay here...
 

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