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Wes
12:31 AM
 
1:24 AM
mornings!!
 
2:16 AM
 
Wes
 
2:28 AM
 
Wes
2:38 AM
indeed
 
:P
 
hehe
 
!!
this room has no cap
 
2:54 AM
!!man bison
 
[ grep [ ] grep [ options ] PATTERN [ FILE ...] grep [ options ] [ -e PATTERN | -f FILE ] [ FILE ...]
@Saitama Command not found. Have you tried Windows instead? It's great and does all the things!
 
!!man ifconfig
 
[ ifconfig -- configure network interface parameters ] ifconfig [ -L ] [ -k ] [ -m ] [ -n ] interface [ create ] address _ family [ address [ dest _ address ]] [ parameters ] ifconfig interface destroy ifconfig -a [ -L ] [ -d ] [ -m ] [ -u ] [ -v ] [ address _ family ] ifconfig -l [ -d ] [ -u ] [ address _ family ] ifconfig [ -L ] [ -d ] [ -k ] [ -m ] [ -u ] [ -v ] [ -C ] ifconfig [ -g groupname ]
 
3:05 AM
lol wtf
damn tmux
!!man gcc
uman slutman lolman gcc
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Hello
I got the question about polymorphism in PHP. In other language I can use the code below.

Base base;

base = new Derived1();
base.doSomething();

base= new Derived2();
base.doSomething();

to archieve polymorphism. But since the PHP does not allow type to be explict , I cannot use the statement above.
so I was wondering if there is any way to archieve polymorphism rather than

public function something(Base base){
base.doSomething();
}
 
Wes
php doesn't have variable type declaration, and it's not limiting polymorphism in any way (in fact it's the opposite, you can store anything in a variable regardless of type), as you can simply do
$base = new Derived1();
$base->doSomething();
$base = new Derived2();
$base->doSomething();
if you want to check invariants you can do assert($base instanceof Base); but it's usually not needed
 
3:27 AM
I understand what you mean. I am new to web programming so I wanted to ask you something. Is it a good idea to divide the program into a lot of class in PHP? I heard using syntax like include_once and required_once is generally not a good idea for PHP but I am forced uses a lot of include_once and required_once since PHP show redeclaration error
 
Wes
phptherightway.com check these guides
 
I will look at them. Thanks
 
well what should I return in a void function .... like function name(): void{ ... }
 
3:43 AM
nothing
 
returning nothing gives .. - Fatal error: Uncaught TypeError: Return value of name() must be an instance of void, none returned
 
What's this room's consensus on credibility of phptherightway?
 
Wes
void exists only in php 7.1, not php 7.0
 
@peehaa
 
ohh i see
 
Wes
3:44 AM
@littlepootis it is fine. better than most articles about php
 
so why is :void is even supported in 7.0.3 ??
 
you can have a class named void
 
okay....
 
could*
 
BTW Is PHP 7.1 released yet or development is still going on ??
 
3:48 AM
how to make a this type backgrond and mouse hover effect.. ,pointer through working...
this is a template ?
 
Wes
@Saitama not released yet
LeviMorrison \o
 
@Wes but is it top kek
 
Man I dieded laughing while I was reading this 9gag.com/gag/aKq9Gyg
 
Wes
i haven't read it all but what i did read was good. also other people in the room suggest it. it is maintained by sturgeon and lockhart which aren't idiots at all :P
 
3:58 AM
Wes o/
 
4:47 AM
@rtheunissen talked about it, yes … planning to RFC/implement it? not yet.
 
Wes
5:06 AM
morning bob :D had a good sleep? :P
 
5:28 AM
yea :-P
 
oh is it friday already
 
Wes
mornings
 
5:54 AM
MORNING
 
How to troll yourself: figure out why reverseproxy over a ssh tunnel to a remote server which is down fails…
took me a while that actually the tunnel wasn't established as I have it open in background :-/
 
o/ o/ o/ XD
 
6:12 AM
@SagarNaliyapara I'm assuming you have seen rebecca.blackfriday
 
o/ @William
 
What does o/ mean
 
ya i have seen
@William
Yo
 
I feel like SO is empty right now
 
@William why you are asking that?
 
6:14 AM
Why are you posting Friday songs?
 
posted on March 04, 2016

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
bcoz today is friday
 
rebecca fans be like
 
well I have an exam tomorrow bye
It is probably good to get at least 5 hours
 
how old are you?
 
6:17 AM
sigh old enough to probably be done with college
 
Hello @Gordon sir...
 
@SagarNaliyapara what time zone are you on?
 
GMT +0530
 
Is that for you little pootis or for Sagar?
 
GMT +05:30
 
6:19 AM
Sagar
 
Wow so it's almost noon wow.
 
yup
11:50 AM
currently
 
Is there an alterantive to SO for india?
 
and feeling hungry
 
why aren't there more of you guys?
 
6:21 AM
@William why?
you want more of us?
really?
 
there are many but SO is best
 
@littlepootis Why isn't there an alternative? Or why aren't there more people from India?
I need more friends in the JavaScript room this time of night.
I thought India had the worlds 2nd largest population. So yeah just trying to figure everything out.
 
@William because SO is international and there and people speak over 50 languages here
 
Well I guess.
 
6:23 AM
may be most of them are not active on chat
 
is your internet connection bad there?
 
they got their answers and if not then post their questions @William
 
lemme speedtest
apparently
this was an old one
 
wtf that is insane?
 
yeah lulz
seems shopped
 
6:26 AM
I don't have flash installed on this thing
 
more costly in india
 
I don't believe you
 
@SagarNaliyapara not if your ex-girlfriend's brother runs an isp
 
There's 1gbps in Kerala
 
6:27 AM
How fast are legal torrent downloads?
 
moin
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier look at the url
 
@SagarNaliyapara that is a lot more realistic
 
6:28 AM
apparently shopped, yes
 
Do I have to make uninstall before make install php? I think the binaries would just be overwritten. Won't they?
 
no such thing as make uninstall
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier there's a make uninstall`?
 
they will only be overwritten if configured with same prefix
 
6:30 AM
@littlepootis send something here in modi's state gujarat :P
 
that'll teach me to not read fastly the google small text instead of the real answer
 
@SagarNaliyapara or marry a girl who runs an isp
 
what about your speed there @William
 
@SagarNaliyapara I think it was double yours
 
@littlepootis ha ha ha will find
 
6:31 AM
@JoeWatkins so in the case of recompiling to integrate a new extension, am I running after problems?
 
here's a speed test result that will make everyone sad ...
 
Closed tab
 
send your result @William
 
lol
I don't even want to go test mine
 
6:32 AM
why @FélixGagnon-Grenier
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I don't understand the question ...
 
mostly to not be sad
 
> they will only be overwritten if configured with same prefix
I added --with-curl
 
6:33 AM
hey @JoeWatkins your pthreads library is awesome
 
am I about to have two php versions conflicting?
 
@JoeWatkins yeah, give me 100€/month and I'l impress you too ;-D
 
:P
 
I get it free, impress me
 
6:34 AM
it's funny my download speeds are crazy high and my upload speeds stink
 
@littlepootis to be fair I think it was free while anthony worked at google ...
@FélixGagnon-Grenier no if you really did just add --with-whatever to your already configured and installed php
 
@littlepootis Do you run any daemons with such fast speed or host any servers there?
 
@littlepootis so you don't host any servers there then?
 
6:37 AM
@Saitama I hope you read the warning ;)
 
@William no, I don't
 
> If this kills you, horribly, there is NOTHING I can do.
is literally the bottom line ...
 
I had a doubt tho.. what are the resources that you talk about?
 
when php removes resources in favour of objects, I won't make sockets work ...
the resource type, like streams are
 
oh i get it...
 
6:38 AM
oh ok
 
I used to run tf2 servers, but not atm
 
an OOP interface for sockets would be nice tho...
 
well that depends on the interface ...
a crappy interface is not better than using resources and procedural code ... who knows what kind of interface it will have ... but resources are destined to die, everybody hates them ...
 
hmm...
 
I might introduce a Threaded Stream when resources die ... depends how it works ... I'm not interested enough in it to have a hand in it's design ...
 
6:42 AM
I am trying to do something like like atm :P - gist.github.com/gourabnagDev/9c8066e7dc897745245b
I just wrote an fun parser (for routing purposes) : gist.github.com/gourabnagDev/1ea8e88d818a2dfec676
And the router file would look something like this gist.github.com/gourabnagDev/c5d8e4ecd35751492ec8
 
Wes
mornings
 
it looks like the intense work is not being executed in the thread to me, it also looks like you should be using non-blocking i/o before threads ...
 
@Wes have you take nap again?
 
moin
 
Wes
was saying hi to the phpeeps that just joined
 
6:46 AM
\o
 
Wes
i've nearly finished writing the rfc \o/
 
which rfc?
 
Wes
took me ages, lol
 
9 hours ago, by Wes
i'm writing an rfc. right now. hide yo wives and yo kids
 
Mornings
And frydais to you all =)
 
6:48 AM
this is one Wes :P
 
got it @JoeWatkins !
well how does an HTTP 405 response header look like?
 
log query in laravel 5.1
?
 
@SagarNaliyapara did you just random ping me for no reason again?
 
greeting mornings \o/
 
6:55 AM
Gordon sir pls
 
@SagarNaliyapara you remember the conversation we had about not abusing your ability to ping individuals ?? you want me to dig up that conversation ??
 
nope not at all
i was going to wish him if he had time today i think he may not get disturbed by my ping
i ping him when he entered into the room and i was thinking he may have some time
to spend
but again it was my mistake
i think it's not indivisual ping problem it's gondon sir's problem he does not like ping him someone like me @JoeWatkins
 
it's not just Gordon, everyone objects to being pinged randomly
please, don't do it ...
 
Don't ping unless it's really necessary.
 
Random @Joe ping :-D < this ping is unnecessary
 
7:04 AM
:P haha sagar took it sentimentally ..
 
@Wes what is it about?
 
@Saitama why i should not?
 
@Wes you can rfs on your unfinished rfs
 
Wes
@bwoebi i'm not linking to you because you always instatrash all my ideas :D
 
@SagarNaliyapara you should not
 
7:05 AM
@Wes ah struct classes
 
find / -name "*php_curl*" brings out one file, php_curl.h in php-src repo. Theoretically ./configure --with-curl [...], make and make install should have built the php_curl.dll file, right?
 
@Wes too late, found it on github :-P
 
Wes
dammit.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier do you still use windows ??
 
just tell me if i wish you with morning what will be your reaction @Saitama
 
7:06 AM
that's on the red hat box in aws
 
@Wes also not sure about amphp would specifically profit from it? ;o)
Also didn't know Donald Trump authors RFCs :-P
 
@Saitama yeah
 
Wes
oh i don't know, i just guessed that as it's async stuff
 
user image
3
 
ha ha ha tell that thing to gondon sir
 
7:09 AM
also @Wes no objections so far
sorry to disappoint you, but I see nothing inherently wrong with that RFC
 
Wes
just give it time :P
spotted many engrishisms
 
Sure it's far from perfect (the text) … but the idea itself looks fine
 
Wes
\o/ that's enough
 
Just a question… would immutable objects still have any place after this RFC?
 
Good morning and Happy Rebecca day!
 
7:18 AM
Things That Donald Trump Would RFC
6
 
won't there be those crazy links today?
 
Wes
@bwoebi good question :P maybe for multithreading they would still be needed?
needed better
 
afk, school run and things ...
 
@Wes ah, why?
 
Wes
i don't know. zero experience of MT here. just did few async stuff (js in a browser)
 
7:22 AM
@JoeWatkins Try to uninstall any other interpreter languages installed upon installation! We're the only true interpreter!
 
Wes
anyway bwoebi, told joe too, feel free to do anything with it including changing the meaning of what i've written entirely. i just gave it a start so that someone with skills and internals knowledge could complete it
later joe \o
 
7:41 AM
does anyone know a lot about the php storm ftp?
 
no, why would anyone use ftp in 2016?
 
ftp - general term
building back end for an android app
 
@Gordon shared hosting
 
can't seem to get ftp to work with php storm when it says the ftp connection is working
 
7:59 AM
@littlepootis why would anyone used shared hosting that only allows ftp?
 
cuz' people like free thing lol :P 000webhost.com
 
or godaddy
 
if you are paying for shared hosting and have only access to ftp in godaddy then you better move to a better hosting company like aws, or azure...
 
i intend to
 
8:04 AM
o/
 
\o
 
\o/
 
mornin
 
c-c-c-combobreaker
 
nin'
 
8:05 AM
in php storm what would you do for this bug after setting up: Default server resteraunt has no valid mappings.
Automatic upload is not enabled.
 
@Saitama do shared hosting users have a choice
 
mornin tereško
 
Mexicans will have to pay to download a proprietary version of PHP named Drumphfp 7, Muslims are just banned ...
8
 
just asking, why do murican's are so annoyed with Trump ??
 
all reasonable people are annoyed with trump ...
6
if you meet a person that is not annoyed by trump, get the fuck outa there ...
 
8:10 AM
but why ??
 
I am mostly entertained
 
He's openly asshole
 
what I am fucking annoyed by is Hillary
 
@JoeWatkins I'm not annoyed, I'm amused …
@tereško agree … or rather about Bernie not being given a chance
 
the best word I can think of to describe him is ignoramus ... do you want an ignoramus with their finger on the nuclear button ?
I was amused at first ...
think of a world where he has power over the most formidable military and one of the most important economies on earth ... it's not really a joke any more, it might be a real thing that we have to deal with ... precisely because people think he's the kind of funny they should vote for ... he isn't, he is dangerous ...
 
8:13 AM
The odds aren't that bad
 
I'm still thinking he's just an opportunist who sees his big chance in doing show drama and actually is relatively moderate…
 
relatively moderate people don't do things like refuse to distance themselves from high priests in the fucking kkk ... that's not a joke that is circulating the internet, that actually happened ...
 
@JoeWatkins as said … show drama.
 
o/
 
8:15 AM
@bwoebi you see it as show drama, because it seems like parody ... what if it isn't, what if he's that guy ...
all the evidence suggests, he is actually that guy ...
 
Happy pre-weekend yall
 
yohaa
 
mojoe
 
Happy Rebecca Day!
 
\o/
 
8:17 AM
afk, things ...
 
@JoeWatkins IMHO, he is lacking a fair share of geopolitical knowledge … that's his biggest issue … I don't see him actually building that damn wall
or playing around with nuclear buttons
 
I agree with @JoeWatkins. I was amused at first, too. But nowadays I can only shake my head in disbelief about the support he gets. No one with a sane mind can want someone like Trump for president.
 
With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility
 
I wouldn't vote Trump either. I'm just saying that I don't guess a Trump president would be that horrible…
 
the same guy that said those things might be commander in chief, that's not a fancy title, he'll have sway over sending their enormous devastating military capabilities into any country he feels like
 
he'll have it because he'll have been given power by the kind of people who actually do agree with the crazy shit he espouses any time there is a camera on him ...
srs afk
 
@JoeWatkins he is, but he's not doing that alone … if everyone is opposed inside the highest ranks, there will rather be a putsch than Trump getting his will
 
moin
 
nin'
 
@JoeWatkins A money pattern implementation in core
 
R.P
8:26 AM
Hey, anyone has ideas why apc_fetch would throw segmentation fault?
APC version: 3.1.13, PHP version: 5.3.3
 
@R.P ping Joe about it...
he built that
 
@R.P 5.3 is not supported. By anyone. At all. Use a newer version and a lot of problems will go away.
 
@Saitama he didn't
 
???
APCu ??
 
8:31 AM
he built that, yes.
but that's not very nice of you to tell people to ping him when they have a bug.
 
ohh okay sorry...
i won't do that again...
 
I think
Also, I'm pretty sure that in 5.3 APCu isn't what you are using, that's before the opcode cache was extracted
 
@DaveRandom yes, RP is using APC
not APCu
 
what does that u mean in APCu ??
 
R.P
APCuser
user cache*
 
8:34 AM
@Saitama if you went to look at the README of the project, you would know
 
i did not go to look at the readme tho
 
@DaveRandom yea… People are waiting for Ubuntu 16.04 to be released (aka when support for 12.04 ends)
 
IT'S SNOWING
 
morning!
 
At least multiple sysadmins told me that'd be the reason why they would be on 5.3… @DaveRandom
 
8:37 AM
I just got d/c!
I haven't typed that into a chat window for like 10 years!
 
@bwoebi yes, some people are inherently stupid
 
NOT COOL
This is a 100Mb fucking leased line as well
 
@DaveRandom 100 MBit/s, but ping speeds of ±1s?
:-D
artificially delayed transmission? :-D
 
@tereško that's not really about stupidness
the distro provides security updates, so a sysadmin has no incentive to upgrade
a sysadmin should not upgrade, in fact
 
 
8:40 AM
@FlorianMargaine unless those updates aren't provided for this version, but only for the upgraded version, right?
 
@Nanne no, a distribution will backport security patches
 
@FlorianMargaine up to a certain point, yes. but not infinitly?
 
@Nanne up to its LTS end date
 
Wes
TODO.txt
++snow drifting in parking lots with the fairlady
 
@FlorianMargaine yes, I know. But backporting is just giving support to people that have not upgraded. It's a grace-period, or at least, a part of it should be. If you wait until the end of your LTS, you have zero grace period left. If everyone does that, you'd get an extended support period or something. And then you'd get people taking that for granted, etc.
so I think there's some sort of issue with waiting for the extreme end of your LTS
 
8:43 AM
America, you might call this an election, but the rest of the world is viewing it as your I.Q. Test. And it's not looking good.
sums it up perfectly
 
@Wes Haha, not joking I was on the way to the dentist last week, went too fast around a corner, back end sliding out even with ESP on, nicely turn into the slide and it felt right
 
so while you are right for a certain amount of time, but it's not an infinite system. that's just what i was sayhing. so the incentive would be to be ahead of 'the end of support' or something
 
does anyone here have experience using visio?
 
Wes
@Jimbo you described every turn i make :D rwd ftw
drifting try outs in parking lots are a must with rwds
(i'll grow up eventually)
i hope trump gets to be president so we can say we aren't anymore the state that had the worst joke of a prime minister ever
guess who he is.
 
@Hello luckily: no. Everytime Visio is involved, someone is trying to manage his/her way out of something ;P
 
8:54 AM
I have an assignment due soon and there's some weird error lol
looked everywhere
whenever I try to connect the arrow lol
 
@bwoebi Usually, yes, but today I've got a jitter of about 500ms, just phoned the ISP and they are being DDoS'd, they said they'll have a mitigation in place in about 15 mins though
 
@DaveRandom wait what, your ISP tells you this kind of stuff?
do you have this trick?
I recently had someone ask me to go get a computer and turn it on so I could restart it. He refused to move further in the script until I said I had done that.
12
 
@Hello so, what did you learn from that image? It seems that this thing you are drawing ( a foreign key relationship ) can only be connected to another specific thing ( an entity shape). this is literally what the error says. Now find out (google) what those things are, especially how they look in visio. Then draw one of those entity shapes. and then connect them with your foreign key.
 
@FlorianMargaine Yes, but they are a manchester-based business ISP and I know about 3/4 of the support team personally because I've worked with them for ages (I went on their Christmas do a couple of years ago)
 
@FlorianMargaine nice xkcd, haven't seen it before =D
 
8:59 AM
My home ISP would never admit something like that
 
Anonymous
Does anyone have an idea how to run a set of python scripts consecutively, on the condition that script2 runs after the success of script1 .. and so on.
 

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