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00:00
@Kyll You've completed 3 CV review item(s) today, thanks!
@Mogsdad You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks!
@gunr2171 You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks!
@Tunaki You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks!
@Kyll You've completed 3 CV review item(s) today, thanks!
@Drew You've completed 1 CV review item(s) today, thanks!
@rene if you had the right intent and I can see "why" someone can think their flag is valid and I'm thinking umm... not entirely sure myself - I'll mark as helpful and take no action
user4639281
And now I can spend all of my close votes all over again.
Not sure I like this "ping at midnight" thing
@JonClements OK
@gunr2171 tnx for letting us know
that will be used against you, somewhere, sometime
@rene hence a not too recent meta post of "I got my flag marked as helpful, but the post wasn't deleted, but then was later"
00:01
@rene I mean, I didn't write that feature (not to throw Sam under the bus), and I didn't write it into the v2 spec
user4639281
> The system is not transparent! Why is the system not transparent?
user4639281
@gunr2171 mods can edit pretty much anything they want - we just don't
@gunr2171 Amazing those software engineers, isn't? All kind of features you never asked for!
Yes, we can edit chat messages
user4639281
00:03
he can even edit your BIOS, he just chooses not to
3
He can edit your brain, and he just chose to do so
user4639281
Look at that.
@gunr2171 lol, nice!
user4639281
ah, but at least with chat messages I can see that you edited it
00:05
@TinyGiant You've completed 10 CV review item(s) today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 7 minutes, averaging to a review every 51 seconds.
anyway, I'm out ... need sleep.
user4639281
That was a wee bit on the late side, only five an a half minutes.
cya!
user4639281
Night!
@TinyGiant quality of review, not quantity or expediency of doing so! :p
user4639281
00:06
Awe, thanks. So how's about that NaA?
it's poor, but an attempt
it's accept as well
I've marked as helpful but at this time taking no further action
user4639281
Well... you don't get much more link only than only a link. Plus there's no way to edit the relevant information in because it links to half way through a discussion.
user4639281
But thanks anyway.
That's the equivalent to linking to a forum post, and having only that as your answer
It's not actually linking to the documentation, which would at least be slightly more helpful
So.. instead of flagging as NAA - what outcome would one expect from a mod?
00:11
@JonClements has Stack Overflow got round to the brain interface yet? :-)
usually I'd say that's NAA, but link-only accepted answers are treated differently
it's doing no harm
someone care to revert that one back?
just did
Sam
Sam
Well, so much for getting to sleep. Gotta love the neighbour's security lights.
@gunr2171 I thought we discussed this issue, where if the user ran out of votes before reaching the review limit?
Or am I imagining things?
I'd be ok with only pinging someone if they reach 40. If they don't hit 40 in a day, no ping.
Sam
Sam
00:25
Should we still bother posting anything at midnight then?
I vote no
Before I retire for the night - I just want to say a thanks to the team here, the ROs and the members, you're doing a great job. 2016 is going to be (hopefully) a great year for all.
:D Thanks!
Sam
Sam
And just add a command to allow the user to notify the bot that they've ran out of votes (seeing as we can't fetch this data ourselves).
Thanks!
@Sam I still so fancy the idea of getting it tracking me, then doing a 100 queue run :p
Sam
Sam
00:28
:p
Jo already tried iirc
@Sam I don't think we need that either. The end user has the current review count (and others) command to see what they have so far. As for the bot, it shouldn't matter about "closing a session"
user4639281
I thought it was supposed to be so that if you were reviewing over midnight it would notify you that the day had ended and you were starting a new session.
@TinyGiant the bot will ping you on the first review of a UTC day
user4639281
Ahh, so irrelevant then.
Sam
Sam
@gunr2171 Right, but they won't have access to the avg. stats until they reach the limit.
Actually
We could just compute the avg as they go.
00:31
why can't you just calculate the averages based on how many items are tracked so far?
exactly
user4639281
is "scala neat" a measurable thing?
well... when rabbit and nidaba get done :)
however, so far in the v2 spec (unless I forget), the only place that will tell you your averages is when you hit 40
Sam
Sam
@gunr2171 I originally chose against this for the sake of accuracy and simplicity. But whatever.
Sam
Sam
00:32
@gunr2171 Sounds right
ugh, more work for me to do :(
Sam
Sam
Lol
well, i'm out for now
Sam
Sam
I'll update the lib to calc on the fly.
Cya
Thinking about it, shouldn't we team up regarding bots? Between the sopython team and here, we could ace something
user4639281
00:36
There's someone in another room hacking on my cv-pls script to merge it with something else.
Sam
Sam
@JonClements SOCVR don't own any bots for post quality though.
user4639281
Or they were, there hasn't been much development on it recently.
Sam
Sam
(I've been working on something on and off for a while now though.)
@Sam indeed, but at the some time... consolidate efforts and all that
(plus we've got some nifty server resources behind us)
Sam
Sam
@JonClements Yeah, but in what way?
user4639281
00:38
Python + C#. Where could that go wrong?
our bots were Python and Node
Sam
Sam
Like broadcasting cvpls'es or something?
central server for all to do stuff on
Sam
Sam
(zephyr already does that though, kind of)
user4639281
@Sam It would be interesting if yam could post to rooms with matching relevant tags.
00:39
a central DB would also be useful
mods can't see single votes for each user, right? -> meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/313816/…
Sam
Sam
@TinyGiant Ohhh, you've just reminded me or something I was meant to add to Closey.
Better audit passing tag selection based on the question's content.
If that makes sense.
user4639281
Totally
user4639281
@Rizier123 correct.
Sam
Sam
@TinyGiant Certainly doable.
00:41
@Sam Like checking to see if the tag that's selected is in the body/title or something?
Sam
Sam
@KevinBrown I was thinking of using the bag of words model to determine which tag was most relevant.
Sam
Sam
Maybe calc the cosine similarity of the post to the tag's wiki or something as well.
user4639281
Check the followers in the tag?
Sam
Sam
I'm not sure how that would help order a post's tags by relevance.
user4639281
00:47
Yeah...
Sam
Sam
What about checking the OP's tags?
(poll their profile)
user4639281
Yeah, that could work.
Sam
Sam
But yeah, the idea of us joining with Python is definitely interesting.
Morning
Sam
Sam
Morning
00:57
A question: Vote to close what if the question can fits reasons more than one? For example a question is asking: Which tool is the best can foo the bar? Use foo or bar? Or other tools recommend? And can you give me an example please? So... I'm voting to close this POB question as off-topic because it's too broad. ?
Sam
Sam
I should work on Pham more.
user4639281
@KevinGuan If the question gets edited to remove the reason you're closing it for, will it still be off-topic?
Hmm...if it gets edited, then shouldn't we retract our close votes?
user4639281
But in such cases I usually choose Unclear (which question you're asking), or Too (many questions) Broad.
If you see that while you still have it open, yeah
otherwise, just let it go through the re-open queue
user4639281
01:00
bah... typos, whatever, it's 1am and I'm still clearing flags - gimme a break :p
Sam
Sam
I thought ninja puppies need sleep?
maybe we do, maybe we don't? But who knows what we're doing and when or where :p
user4639281
Shog does, shog knows everything.
01:02
@TinyGiant No, only Skeets knows everything.
user4639281
Shog knows skeet though.
@JonClements Can it be that you are one of the ninja's here: youtube.com/watch?v=qIVDxL2lgN4 ? :P
@TinyGiant And vise versa.
Sam
Sam
@TinyGiant But Skeet made Shog.
Darn it - need to work on my being legendary skills sighs
Sam
Sam
01:05
Maybe try circling earth SE in 80 days?
2
well, with a new contract my business part has got, we might be able to get a leer jet and do so - does that count? (or just cheating)
leer jet?
Sam
Sam
Nice
Make it 80 hours then.
user4639281
tyops toyps poyts and typos.
01:11
ok , cool
I hate flying though, so I'd be looking at a yacht
my business partner is an ex-RAF captain
Sam
Sam
Cool :D
@KevinGuan why the sigh mate?
user4639281
01:12
Any reason why the title checker for question links on meta stops at 40 links?
@JonClements Hmm...that means:
!!/blame
@KevinGuan It's Tiny Giant's fault.
user4639281
All my fault. That makes sense.
user4639281
01:13
Because only I would want to put more than 40 question links in a meta post.
Sam
Sam
But you can't blame magic.
user4639281
^ There, that one. No blaming Magic allowed.
@Sam Hold on.
Sam
Sam
straps in seatbelt
@KevinGuan I did it for a joke - as we're all friends here - and it was actually laugh :)
however, as always, if you think it's an abuse of mod ability, report it
No, I think it's Tiny's fault :P
user4639281
Can't blame magic.
@JonClements Wait, how do I report it? You can decline the flags :P
Sam
Sam
Blame the lemons!
user4639281
01:16
Didn't you know? The correct method of recourse is to broadcast your misgivings on meta! #sarcasm
You can report directly to the CM team by email - mods don't get to see that
@Sam Blam the waffles!
Sam
Sam
(the combustible ones that burn down your house)
@JonClements Okay okay, I know you were just kidding about that ;)
Anyways, breakfast time!
Sam
Sam
@KevinGuan Blam the nice things why we hat fun.
user4639281
01:19
SOCVR™ - No fun intended; only fun hatters allowed.
Sam
Sam
We're probably the worst room for playing on typos.
@Yam die
Yam
Yam
Bye.
user4639281
Hi!
Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na bat file!
user4639281
01:27
@TigerhawkT3 Array(16).join( 'hero'-1) + "Batman";
Sam
Sam
Typo of the day: https://githug.com/[...]
user4639281
lulz
That is a friendly typo.
user4639281
Se here I go searching for the JavaScript batman joke. First result is... an actual library... facepalm
Sam
Sam
Just typed that while trying to fetch the latest rev for graverobber. ^.^
Lol
user4639281
01:28
Next we're going to have a batman tag.
user4639281
at least it isn't really batman.
Yam
Yam
GraveRobber started 1.8.0.0.
Sam
Sam
@TinyGiant ... So we actually have the tag.
user4639281
@Sam Yup
Sam
Sam
01:35
@TinyGiant Ah
@Yam stats
Yam
Yam
Posts being watched: 67. Posts pending review: 1.
@Sam Typo of the day: https://gitbug.com/[...]
And back.
user4639281
https://giggity.com/[...]
@TinyGiant Se here?
user4639281
Yeah, that one.
01:44
lol
What's the things here? I can't visit it: pastebin.com/Abie6SSq
Sam
Sam
@KevinGuan Funny you should mention that actually, as I happened to (mis)type that just the other day.
@TinyGiant Yeah! Thanks :D
user4639281
np
Dec 18 '15 at 1:25, by Kevin Guan
I hate typo: Just want to type Github, but made a typo, and it become Gitbug.
See, I really made that before :P
01:47
@TinyGiant sure is a lot of repeated code there :p
user4639281
I just noticed the big 'ol banner mentioning that batman.js doesn't exist anymore.
user4639281
@cimmanon Don't look at me, look at "A GUEST"
user4639281
:P
01:49
:p :p
user4639281
:,P
user4639281
:\P
01:50
@TinyGiant is that the kaitlen jenner face (south park reference)? :p
user4639281
Yeah, that one.
Yeah, that one.
user4639281
It's like sticking your tongue out while your mouth is open.
user4639281
Tends not to be a good idea.
Sam
Sam
... I go off and read a meta post, then come back to an ascii tongue-sticking-out competition.
user4639281
01:55
inorite?
user4639281
Geez, these irresponsible regulars, eh?
user4639281
Childish, all of them childish!
Sam
Sam
Not all of us! looks at self Eh, nvm.
user4639281
Yeah, you keep lying to yourself.
user4639281
01:59
I'm finally getting into the < 0 scored questions in code-quality. I thought it was bad before.
Sam
Sam
Chatbots can't lie. They can only say this sentence is false... and then die shortly afterwards.
@TinyGiant Need some more cvs?
user4639281
@Sam Of course.
Sam
Sam
joins party
user4639281
I'm creating a bookmark folder of questions I want to close vote tomorrow.
user4639281
I've already used most of my votes today.
user4639281
02:03
I've also edited quite a few questions today.
@Sam But Closey lied 3 times.
As far as I know.
Oct 31 '15 at 20:19, by Tiny Giant
@Closey when will you stop lying?
user4639281
My custom review queue works great for burninating, I can edit, vote, view comments, etc, then click next to view the next question. No more going to search pages and opening multiple tabs and losing my place and getting frustrated. It even remembers where I left off.
user3956566
@cimmanon is this profile pic change permanent?
@MsYvette nothing is ever permanent.
user3956566
@cimmanon haha true true
user4639281
@cimmanon Hmm...I still don't know what's your new pic...which flower is it? Lotus?
i planned to do it a while ago when i started redesigning my site 2 years ago, but i never finished it
Plop @MsYvette!
user3956566
hi :)
@KevinGuan one i made up. flowers dont usually have 7 petals. they are usually multiples of 3 or 4
user3956566
02:09
@cimmanon nice
So your flower is a multiple of 3 and 4.
74 degrees in my room. 23.3 (c) for you Brit subjects. Comfort at last
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 I think you're thinking sum. I don't see how 3 and 4 multiplied in any way is going to make 7
Sam
Sam
@TigerhawkT3 Mathematically speaking, no. Sorry, just gotta be pedantic every so often.
user4639281
02:12
Unless it's (3 * 1) + (4 * 1)
Sam
Sam
7's a prime, so only 1 and 7 are multiples.
But three and four makes seven.
I'm programming in English.
user4639281
That's a sum, not a multiple.
Sam
Sam
+1 best programming lang out there
Three and four is seven; seven petals; seven is a multiple of seven.
02:13
maybe programming in english solves addition before multiplication :p
the Bora Bora is a pretty flower
change Tiger's rep to Kevin's rep;
delete Tiger's account;
@TigerhawkT3 ^
user4639281
Programming in english solves programming.
Programming in English is funny and simple right?
It depends what you consider pseudocode.
I had a Java teacher whose "pseudocode" was basically Python with a couple typos.
02:15
speaking of simple languages, can I offer a blonde joke ?
@TigerhawkT3 lol
i bet ive heard it before!
user4639281
brb
@Closey stats
I suppose you're blonde?
02:15
6,046 need review
163 reviews today
3,029,786 reviews all-time
only if Yv says so
<- blonde
user4639281
You gotta ask cimm if it's ok then.
Well, then I guess it'll still sound new to you, as you're unlikely to remember the ones you've already heard. Because your memory is poor. Because you're blonde.
what did the blonde say when the doctor told her she was pregnant?
02:16
I need a cimm and Yv vote
user3956566
@TigerhawkT3 I figured that's what you were doing, but I knew people wouldn't be able to resist correcting you :p
dunno
are you sure its mine? :D
ha
user4639281
I've got some really bad ones, that cannot be said in any reasonable public setting.
user3956566
02:17
hahahaha Love it, going to steal it
Sam
Sam
Lol
ok here goes: Why did the blonde wear green lipstick ?
user4639281
so brb, fer realz this time.
Sam
Sam
Cya
user3956566
Yeh how I talk in real life would be unrecognizable as me here
02:18
brb too
@MsYvette :)
user3956566
bye TG
no idea, havent heard this one. sounds dirty though :p
green means go
user3956566
I don't get it
user3956566
02:18
I'm having a blonde moment
red lipstick = stop
i am not sure how dirty it is. I am kinda dumb
Depends on what is being instructed to go or stop.
user3956566
@cimmanon unless it's really what I'm thinking and I can't say..
Diving into the gutter is left as an exercise for the reader.
user3956566
02:19
@TigerhawkT3 yeh that LOL
see, I was thinking peck on the cheek
user3956566
if my sister told me that, I'd know instantly what she meant and it's always the filthiest possibility (and she's blonde, although she treats me like I am!) :)
do you want to hear another tame one or a racy one?
user3956566
more, I don't mind unless we get reported, should we start another room?
maybe hold off
user3956566
02:22
anyone interested in starting a jokes room?
I will go to a jokes room. I think the RO's would prefer that
though I know no jokes
It's sometimes more fun to tell ones that could be seen as tame on the surface, with well-defined behavior for casting with to_racy().
i am lazy, someone else can make it :p
user3956566
ok I will drag one of you into a room and how do we drag all else across?
can probably just paste a link to it?
02:26
or in general just click on someone's name. See what rooms they are in and join
Sam
Sam
@Tiny I've cv'd the first 20 posts or so, gonna call it a night for cv'ing now.
Before my arm drops off.
user4639281
@Sam lol thx
Sam
Sam
02:44
Np
user3956566
@KevinGuan get yourself back into that chat room
@Closey stats
6,066 need review
197 reviews today
3,029,820 reviews all-time
@Closey starting
@KevinGuan Happy reviewing!
02:53
@KevinGuan I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
user4639281
@KevinGuan no mcve
user4639281
The image is a figment of your imagination. It doesn't exist.
@TinyGiant Huh?
user4639281
A screenshot of code does not count as code.
03:01
Ah, fine.
@TinyGiant How does our editor check if a part of text is code or not?
Sam
Sam
Magic
user4639281
@KevinGuan Yeah.... that's a fail...
user4639281
Blame it on regex.
lol, it thinks everything there are code.
!!/blame
03:09
@KevinGuan It's TigerhawkT3's fault.
user4639281
No, it's because the user added 4 spaces before the next line, which is unnecessary. And there's no way to fix that really. Unless I implement markdown, and that wouldn't be nice.
user177800
03:24
@TinyGiant I agree 100%
03:34
@TinyGiant That's what I did.
user4639281
ah
Huh, that's MarkDown. when use code in lists of items, we should use 8 spaces to format code. And we must use at least one space to format text. But I love just use a tab.
user4639281
Yeah, but the text only needs one space.
I know, but I love 4 spaces :P
user4639281
yeah.
user4639281
@KevinGuan Too Broad, or POB.
I guess if someone had reliability data (uptime, crashes per time, etc.), then it wouldn't be POB. But most likely it would just attract answers like "love it" or "it crashed once and I stopped using it, it's bad."
@TinyGiant Closed now. Just think about why people ask bad questions like that on SO.
user4639281
Sounds good.
user4639281
@TigerhawkT3 references the dupe in his answer - facepalm
Yeah, I liked that bit.
That's part of why I seconded the dup vote: if someone complains, I can point to both the first VTCer and to the top answer that links to the dup target.
@TinyGiant Congrats!
@Closey next 3 tags
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@NathanOliver The next 3 tags are: 50, 44, 36
user4639281
03:54
@Mogsdad Thanks. My custom queue works great for burnination.
user4639281
I filter by 0 and get to review each question. Then I filter by one or more to find out which ones have close votes.
user4639281
It's a wonder how we ever did it before.
@Closey starting
@Undo By the power of the Vote! Review!
03:55
@NathanOliver I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
user4639281
@KevinGuan That isn't a question.
@TinyGiant Huh, I don't understand what's he asking since I don't know anything about android, but little not sure. Sounds unclear.
user4639281
@KevinGuan It doesn't even ask an actual question.
@KevinGuan VTC as unclear
Okay, voted.
user4639281
03:59
back in a bit.
@TinyGiant WRT that meta post, do you remember durron's [dup request](meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/299574/…; on that same tag? A couple of users, notably DavidRR, spoke up against burning the tag. Hopefully they'll see your post, but it might be worthwhile pinging them.
Sam
Sam
Night
user3956566
@Sam night :)
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 19 hours to continue reviewing.
@Undo Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
04:08
Nathan passed a audit!
passed java audit.
@NathanOliver You've completed 40 CV review item(s) today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 23 minutes, averaging to a review every 35 seconds.
stackoverflow.com/posts/34562407/revisions Should I roll it back a second time? Because OP includes the answer into the own question by showing the error, which he was searching for.
@Rizier123 Rolled back the last one, it doesn't seem to add anything
It still points out to the error, which OP was searching for in the question itself: $knownAs = $_GET['clientKnownAs']; <<<<< ERROR ERROR! (and 3 lines below). But I think I will just leave it.

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