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Sam
2:00 PM
@Pham stop bot
 
@Sam I'm shutting down...
Goodbye!
 
so @NathanOliver, remember those db credentials from yesterday, turns out they work
 
Hey everyone! (SOCVR chatbot started, linux v2 test!)
 
I saw that ping. That is incredible. I guess I should have mod flagged to get the revision history wiped out. I just figured it was a little late
 
Sam
@Pham audt stats
 
2:02 PM
@Sam Sorry, I don't understand that. Did you mean audit stats?
 
true, I sent an email to the guy saying "you're stupid", in nice terms
 
lol. lets put our password out on stack overflow. What could go wrong?
 
wait, there are people that allow you to make remote connections to their database?
 
yes.....
 
Well brad deleted it but I think the damage is already done.
 
Sam
2:05 PM
Ok, so I've re-enabled the default, "Sorry, I don't understand that" message for v2. But, he'll suggest the closest matching command (within a threshold) rather than just pointing you to the commands command.
 
@NathanOliver one of the posts
there is another
same content
@Sam ah, great
 
omg. Wow. I really hope he is not working for a company.
 
well, judging by the connection address, yes
 
see last comment by OP
 
@gunr2171 I am going to leave a comment on his post about exposing his password and now anyone can connect. I'll leave it up to him what he wants to do as the password has been live on the web for 20+ hours now.
 
2:15 PM
ok
someone already did on the now-deleted post
 
Hopefully he listens.
 
I once, for a giggle, did a scan for SQL Servers open on the internet, found loads, several with default sa passwords. I found some credit card numbers, password etc. Amazing that this can happen.
 
jeez. There was some Russian hackers out there that search for publicly exposed cameras in peoples homes and log into the use the default username and password. They then started streaming them on the internet.
 
Sam
@NathanOliver I'm going to edit the post. Seeing as there's other things that could use some cleaning.
 
2:23 PM
@Sam That's fine.
 
@TigerhawkT3 Haha I have that page bookmarked already, it's a good read
 
@DavidG given up on avent?
 
@TimCastelijns I don't have time, last couple of weeks has been nuts
 
There are only 7 questions left in , the current tag in the great legal cleanup
 
I can imagine, with end of the year, christmas and all
 
2:34 PM
Dupe hammer reopened...
 
I'm going to go with "it was a mistake", I pinged them about it just to check though
 
Can you ping CVers?
 
Yes, but you have to do it manually (they won't show up in the suggested ones)
 
I know you can ping editors like that, but are you sure it works for this too?
 
I thought you could only ping a close voter if it was a moderator...
 
2:39 PM
only the gold badge dupe hammer?
Any more options to add?
 
Let's wait and see? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Even with "standards" and "official documents," I think line lengths are POB these days.
 
@JarrodRoberson it has 3 duplicate close votes, did you want to close it as a dupe again? or were you hoping to close it as opinionated?
@ProgramFOX i think you can only ping the person who cast the last/binding vote
 
I prefer 120 characters, myself.
 
Luckily there are FAQs:
> For questions: The moderator or gold badge holder who closed or reopened the question. Users who have closed or reopened a question without a binding close vote (i.e. without a gold tag badge or a moderator vote) cannot be notified.
@DavidG ^ (and anyone else :P)
 
2:45 PM
It's closed again, and reading that, we can all ping Madara as that was the binding vote!
 
I think it was weird that the gold badge user reopened the question but did nothing else. I will leave a comment if I do that to let people know why I did what I did.
 
For re-opening yes, for closing not so much as a dupe is self explanatory.
 
Yeah. Closing I don't but to reopen and then do nothing is weird
 
Good night, everyone.
 
Later
 
Sam
2:50 PM
Night
 
Night!
 
Do I set the bar too high, when I don't answer such questions, e.g. stackoverflow.com/q/34417546/3933332 Because OP doesn't mention or show any effort(research, pseudo code, attempts, ...)?
I mean he is simply asking for code to change one array into another form.
 
@Rizier123 I think he should have shown some effort
 
I mean I don't want to answer a question where OP thinks afterwords, "Hey, I can just ask here and they will do my work!". And then OP just puts less and less effort into his questions just to get his work done.
I want to encourage the exact opposite, that OP puts every time a little bit more effort into his question.
 
user177800
3:04 PM
@cimmanon personally I think closed as a duplicate is the most correct, but closed is closed on something like this with many reasons.
 
3:37 PM
Cya tomorrow guys, have a nice evening
 
Sam
Cya
 
Can I get some close votes on this dupe guys? I'm pretty sure it was only posted to get the "Do it Yourself" hat: stackoverflow.com/questions/34417378/…
 
4:05 PM
^ <sarcasim>that is very readable</sarcasim>
 
@Sam Yay could use IDYB
 
Sam
Meh
Couldn't be bothered
Anyone got the meta post on making good edits at hand?
 
I have a question about the etiquette of gold badge dupe closing a question to a question where you have an answer. Normally when I run into this I just comment and let the community vote on whether or not they think it is a dupe unless it is blatantly obvious that it is a dupe. Is this a good way to make it look like you are not just doing it for the rep?
@Sam maybe you are looking for this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/253326/…
 
Sam
4:21 PM
@NathanOliver Erm, it was more, "advising new editors" than anything else.
 
5 answers, 3 from 1 rep no badge users?
 
@NathanOliver theres a meta question on that already
 
@NathanOliver Surely a dupe is a dupe regardless of who wrote the posts
 
@DavidG I just get hesitant when it is my own answer as I do not want to be seen as abusing my powers
@cimmanon Thanks. reading
 
4:29 PM
though that one might be a bit different
 
@cimmanon That one is about answering a question then closing
 
ive answered more sass questions than any other person on the site, so its almost impossible for me to not close a question as a duplicate of one ive answered ><
 
@cimmanon Yeah that is a different scenario.
 
Sam
sigh I found out what caused all these edits.
Bots are slowly taking over.
 
sd edited
 
4:40 PM
Not spam nor offensive
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 0.5.0.0.
 
Is this a tool rec?
 
IT LIVES!!
 
One new bot joins the madness \o/
 
and this one runs in docker
super cool!
 
Sam
4:41 PM
:D
 
@Kyll Yes
 
Sam
0.5.0.0? Bit behind there?
@Yam stats
 
Yam
Posts being watched: 0. Posts pending review: 0.
 
@Yam refresh
Uh.
@Yam commands
 
Sam
We're moving him
 
4:43 PM
@Yam status
 
Sam
Well, gunr is
 
it should still be on
 
Sam
@Yam stats
 
Yam
Posts being watched: 0. Posts pending review: 0.
 
oh, dur
 
Sam
4:44 PM
This is an old version
 
ok, now it's going down for a bit
 
Are you putting the Yam in a can?
 
Sam
We're getting some new Yam, this stuff's expired.
 
would anybody mind cleaning this up? stackoverflow.com/a/34420726/2422013
@DavidG thanks
 
Ninja skillz
@gunr2171 That's a spam link anyway
 
4:57 PM
@DavidG I know, at least make it viewable as spam
 
user4639281
Boo!
 
Ahhh
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Goo!
 
user4639281
Foo!
 
Sam
Bar!
 
user4639281
5:00 PM
Baz!
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad new one for the magic editor: Thankiu!
 
user4639281
And: ----- Edit ----
 
user4639281
5:14 PM
@KevinGuan that matches the edit rule. @Mogsdad see the message this is responding to. I don't think there is anything we can really do about it without leaving extra stuff behind. Just something that is going to have to be edited back in if you see it. #rekin-teh-tranez
 
user4639281
Hi
 
Sam
Hey
 
So howz everything today?
 
Sam
Slow
 
user4639281
Good. I made a userscript which makes reviewing the unclosed requests in this room really easy.
 
Sam
5:16 PM
Plus the usual madness.
 
Nice.
 
Wow I got a "thanks" for dupe hammering someones question!
 
I've got that a few times.
 
I cutting out early today. Later guys
 
Laters Nathan
 
user4639281
5:21 PM
Later
 
Ciao
@TinyGiant Me looking for the button after installing that script ---> replygif.net/i/1353.gif
 
user4639281
It's beside your upload button -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------VVV
 
user4639281
(for me that points directly at the button, it may not for you.)
 
Nope, Not found after refresh also :( .... Works on Greasemonkey FF42 rite?
 
user4639281
5:25 PM
@BhargavRao Haven't tested with greasemonkey, errors in the console?
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Awwe, you mean I gotta edit that out by hand?
 
@TinyGiant Yep. Both times.
 
@BhargavRao for the record, if the onebox context is directly related to the topic of this room, such as an error image or a post link, it's fine to onebox it. It's the "reaction images" we are trying to limit
 
user4639281
Err... that's not very descriptive. Hum. I'm going for a smoke, will be back to debug in a minute.
 
5:28 PM
@gunr2171 Ah, fine got it.
 
user4639281
Meet me in the SOCVR Testing Facility
 
@TinyGiant For a smoke?
 
user4639281
Lulz, fer debugging.
 
Lol. Sure... In there IAM (In A Moment)
 
@KevinGuan Better? We're not going to be able to anticipate every possible file name, of course. What I do when I run into things like that is enclose them in ticks as inline code.
@TinyGiant Uh oh... Bhargav's been taken out behind the woodshed...
 
user4639281
5:35 PM
Lulz
 
5:46 PM
I'm done for today. I have a gold tag badge. Dupe hammer all the things...
 
congrats
 
user4639281
gratz
 
user4639281
New update for the RURR script, now works on firefox too :P
 
Nice
 
user4639281
Ahhh, I found a problem with the archiver and the request review script. I'm grabbing the first post link after (or before) the cv-pls tag, now if someone links to a duplicate then there are two links, and the target link shows up first, which is not what we're trying to close.
 
5:53 PM
@TinyGiant Was about to tell that... This rite?
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 0.9.0.1.
 
user4639281
Yup
 
@Yam commands
 
Yam
commands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Prints this beautifully formatted message.
stats ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Prints the number of posts being watched, and closed and edited.
refresh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Forces a refresh of the "closed edited posts" list.
check grave <number> ~ Posts a list of edited closed posts (default of ten, unless specified).
die ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I die a slow and painful death.
 
Does @Yam need registration?
 
5:57 PM
@Sam ^^
 
Sam
@BhargavRao No.
 
@Yam commands
 
Yam
commands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Prints this beautifully formatted message.
stats ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Prints the number of posts being watched, and closed and edited.
refresh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Forces a refresh of the "closed edited posts" list.
check grave <number> ~ Posts a list of edited closed posts (default of ten, unless specified).
die ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I die a slow and painful death.
 
Sam
If you have 3k you can access most of the commands.
die and refresh are reserved for ROs (iirc).
 
user4639281
Argh, but some people put the target after the dupe...
 
5:59 PM
(testing killing the bot)
@Yam die
 
Yam
Bye.
 
ah, exited cleanly, sweet
 
Yam
GraveRobber started 0.9.0.1.
 
@gunr2171 I expected "Goodbye, cruel world"
 
Sam
So, allow me to explain what our newest bot does.
GraveRobber is an attempt to hunt down closed questions which have been 'ed from this room, and are potentially reopen-worthy (the bot checks for certain edit criteria before reporting any question). Only 3k'ers can access the relevant commands to check for posts (check grave).
2
 
6:05 PM
hiho
 
Hello
 
hohi
 
ohih
 
Sam
Calling check grave will post a list of questions (urls amongst other data) which need reviewing. Said questions will then be removed from the bot's saved list. And life continues as normal.
Heya
 
@rene: Just saw one of your posts on Meta: Gratulations to 20k!
 
6:08 PM
@honk thanks!
 
user4639281
Well, I don't think that is a problem easily fixed right now. I'll work on that in a bit, because I'm going to have to extract both question links and check them both separately.
 
user4639281
 
@TinyGiant Too hungry.
 
@Drew Lol'd at the username of the answerer :P
 
6:19 PM
 
ha didnt notice that
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Fine then :P
 
Rather fetching, I think.
 
Sam
afk
 
@Mogsdad remember that oath bounty you had ?
 
6:22 PM
@Drew Vaguely...
 
reject-pls urgent (2 approve votes) stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/10653835 copied from docs.continuum.io/anaconda-cluster/index; lacks usage guidance
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad looks good
 
user4639281
@Undo rejected
 
Thanks :)
 
user4639281
6:53 PM
Well, it looks like I figured it out (hopefully), scanning the transcript to see.
 
user4639281
 
Sam
@Yam stats
 
Yam
Posts being watched: 24. Posts pending review: 0.
 
user4639281
(some of those were older than the 500 messages mark)
 
Sam
Not a problem.
 
6:59 PM
Now this hat is the funniest yet. For me, anyway... It's like I'm looking in a mirror!
 
Sam
lol
 
user4639281
lulz
 
user4639281
Alright, so now I expanded it to match [cv-pls] + post as well as [tag:cv-pls] + post. Lets see how this works.
 
@TinyGiant ya know in that dark color script of yours, can you override post-text deleted-answer color. The default is rather horrible in my view from the stack. Basically the contrast / comparison from light gray to gray with a little tinge of red is hard to pick up
 
@Mogsdad Invert it, it looks like a smiley face :P
 
7:03 PM
<div class="post-text deleted-answer">
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
@Drew What color do you want it?
 
user4639281
(I can't see deleted posts)
 
user4639281
@yam stats
 
Yam
Posts being watched: 24. Posts pending review: 0.
 
7:05 PM
how about magenta (or anything) so i can see the placeholder and tweak it
i will give you a snippet
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Posts are slowly fed into the system, so it may take a moment to register.
@Yam stats
 
Yam
Posts being watched: 24. Posts pending review: 0.
 
user4639281
@Sam That's what I figured, those ones are mostly older anyway because that batch was only [cv-pls] ones.
 
Sam
@TinyGiant ... or the format doesn't match his filters.
 
user4639281
7:10 PM
@Sam That could be. Also, the new duplicate filter may screw with your existing filters...
 
imgur.com/eQqiiDc the one up top is active. the one on the bottom is deleted (slight pink tint). So that is on the default background of white. Bad anyway in terms of differences.
 
Sam
Just checked, yep.
Yam looks for messages with the cv-pls tag.
 
user4639281
@Drew Is that with my dark theme or normal?
 
that is normal. So it is nothing to do with yours. I can create another one with dark backg script so you can see it. (I am always using the dark script)
 
user4639281
Yeah, that would be the most helpful.
 
7:15 PM
here is with dark: i.imgur.com/EKhve8r.jpg here is with normal : i.imgur.com/eQqiiDc.jpg
 
Sam
@TinyGiant What's the new format for dupes?
 
user4639281
@Sam Well, because some people include the duplicate target in the request, there are two links on some. And there is no way to tell which one is the target or not, I just check both and if one of them is closed it gets moved.
 
user4639281
Some people put the target before the dupe, some put it after.
 
Sam
@TinyGiant Oh that's fine. I took this into account when making the filters.
 
here is the url stub stackoverflow.com/tools/new-answers-old-questions
that said, it is nice to have the dark script higher level for all screens
 
user4639281
7:18 PM
@Sam Cool
 
user4639281
@Drew Oh, so you just want the background of that div to be more obviously a different color?
 
yeah
cuz i look at 2500 a day in that format
 
user4639281
k
 
user4639281
I love that I can scan the entire history of the room and check for closed requests in under 2 minutes.
 
Sam
Nice
@yam stats
 
Yam
7:24 PM
Posts being watched: 24. Posts pending review: 0.
 
@Sam Are Yam and Pham twins? They look alike!
 
Sam
Yep
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao Updated the RURRS, visited links are now an obviously different color, and it correctly checks and removes duplicates now.
 
How to pronounce RURRS?
Like a broken engine starting? Rurrrrrr....
 
user4639281
Yeah, that one.
 
Sam
7:28 PM
All seems well, so I'm gonna be afk for a bit.
 
user4639281
Like, as if someone's name is Rurr, and you would say Rurr's
 
Lol ...
 
user4639281
@Sam k
 
Sam
@Tiny If by some remote chance Yam goes crazy, just use die.
 
user4639281
Sounds good.
 
7:28 PM
@TinyGiant the latest one is damn good :)
 
user4639281
I will kill him if he snaps.
 
I named my son Rurr
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao thanks :)
 
@BhargavRao Oh yeah!
 
@Mogsdad Howz the hat hunting going on?
 
7:34 PM
@Mogsdad: Gratulations to 20k as well!
 
@honk Reserve one for me in a week's time :P
 
@BhargavRao Just a moment, will note that down :)
 
@BhargavRao Not bad... back into 4th place.
@honk Thanks!
 
I'm lookin for a nice SE site where I can get 10 upvotes for a first question (So 2 hats at a time). That'll put me on top of the network leaderboard.
 
user4639281
7:38 PM
try ell
 
user4639281
They have lots of upvotes there.
 
Ell?
I know Elu
 
English Language Learners
I have one post there
 
Wow ... That's a good site.
Now I have to make up one question.
 
Have you made an account on Sci Fi Stack Exchange?
They practically handout upvotes there
 
7:44 PM
@TylerH Except SO I didn't have any other account till WB
Now I have 3 accounts to try to get hats :P
 
just think up some question about a plothole in the newest Star Wars movie and you'll get like 15 upvotes in a few days
like "How was Yoda able to kill Dumbledore in The Force Awakens if he's actually living on Middle Earth?"
 
Lol.. I have to watch the film first. :(
 
@Mogsdad Congrats on 20k
 
Damn, I see +15 I feel happy thinking I got a tumbleweed accept. That's the only hat missing from my rack.
Wow .. Shape Memory Alloys are awesome. :O
 
aka nitinol
 
7:53 PM
Yep.
 

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