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12:02 AM
Doh.
I spent about 2 minutes looking at this line for the error:
} else if ($container implements Countable) {
 
@LeviMorrison ...?
 
instanceof?
 
@ircmaxell It should be instanceof.
 
LOL
you got me too
 
12:18 AM
Like… I think it is reasonable to expect that implements would work right there.
 
yup
then you could do Foo implements Bar
 
Hmmm, why isn't ini_set('variables_order','EGPCS'); working for me
 
So… instanceof SomethingThatIsNotAClassOrInterface is just false.
 
@taco because that set happens after arguments are already parsed
 
So instanceof function_name is false. Silent, no warning. Seems odd.
 
12:22 AM
@LeviMorrison of course, because you don't know if it's just an unloaded class
 
@ircmaxell ok hmm thanks :<
 
Ah, we'd have to change that if I added union or intersection types.
 
why?
 
It now has to load the symbol.
Well, I guess technically it would be if added type aliasing.
 
that has nothing to do with union/intersection typing, but the typedef system
 
12:23 AM
type Foo = type_expr;
Yeah.
 
ok, I'm out, latersz
 
cya
 
Abe
12:49 AM
someone using clion?
 
once or twice yeah
it really is easily configurable.
 
Abe
1:05 AM
can i use it to compile php on windows?
visual studio gives me cancer :B
 
my autism just leveled up
I don't know. But I'll try right away
 
Abe
lol
 
one of the thing that amazes me is like... logging to github. see people that commited things to php-src. log here. see those people get harrassed by newcomers each day, and gracefully coping with it.
like, for the records... thx guys and gurdas for making this.
 
1:22 AM
Does anyone know why the polymer team is inventing new HTML tags
 
Abe
1:43 AM
This version of Visual Studio requires Windows 7 Service Pack 1 - gotta love a software that is bugged since the very first click (the installer)
 
@Abe could you do me a favour and run the following;
git clone github.com/composer/composer
cd composer
wget getcomposer.org/composer.phar
php ./composer.phar update
cd bin
php -d date.timezone=UTC -d phar.readonly=0 compile
php composer.phar
Something is really screwy on my system......that doesn't work.....
inside the VM which I've just reprovisioned......
 
Abe
trying. first day using linux :B be patient
cloning composer
it's normal that is stuck at Updating dependencies (including require-dev)
ah, didn't install openssl
 
--with-libressl
 
@Abe Not really.
CLion only uses CMake. We don't have up-to-date CMakeLists.txt anywhere that I know of.
 
yeah, thats what clion was telling me just now^^
stupid french accents. coupled with just enough wine it's a hassle.
 
Abe
1:56 AM
@Danack i'm failed hard. i'm probably editing the wrong php.ini
better ask someone else :B
 
Is anyone good with computers here?
 
Abe
sigh
 
If someone is, and can do that command above, I would appreciate the sanity check.
 
Abe
u so mean @Danack i'm good with windows, it's a computer afaik
i'm the best at writing "sudo shutdown now" though
user image
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2:02 AM
> i'm hiring php devs :)
> Birmingham, AL
D:
 
@Danack apparently this php -d date.timezone=UTC -d phar.readonly=0 compile runs things twice at once. from this php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.options.php -d defines ini entry things. what are they for?
 
@NikiC is uint32_t *arHash not a thing anymore? Your 2014 talks about it but I don't see it in lxr.
 
(ps. the last command just issues a lot of unfounded files. should I cd ../ before the last composer.phar (obviously since it's one folder higher))
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier the readonly phar one is because I don't like programs self-modifying themselves, and so have prevented phars from being written by default. The timezone one is because of a stupid decision about time zones that has been corrected for 7.
 
> The arHash array has the same size (nTableSize) as arData and both are actually allocated as one chunk of memory
Potentially some magic happening here?
 
2:07 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier And no, that's the issue I'm seeing as well. The phar is supposed to be a self-contained PHP executable, and yet it's missing files.
 
hmmm... when going one level higher cd ../ things go well here
yeah obviously it's not the same. sry
 
The composer.phar file that is built in the bin directory is the one to test.
 
The one that was downloaded....does seem to work.
 
exactly
I have the same thing.
 
2:11 AM
@Alcohol I guess I'm going to have to open an issue for this, but possibly I'm doing something stupid:
25 mins ago, by Danack
git clone https://github.com/composer/composer
cd composer
wget https://getcomposer.org/composer.phar
php ./composer.phar update
cd bin
php -d date.timezone=UTC -d phar.readonly=0 compile
php composer.phar
The output of that is:
PHP Warning:  require(phar:///home/github/composer/bin/composer.phar/vendor/composer/autoload_files.php): failed to open stream: phar error: "vendor/composer/autoload_files.php" is not a file in phar "/home/github/composer/bin/composer.phar" in phar:///home/github/composer/bin/composer.phar/vendor/composer/autoload_real.php on line 43
PHP Fatal error:  require(): Failed opening required 'phar:///home/github/composer/bin/composer.phar/vendor/composer/autoload_files.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear:/usr/share/php') in phar:///home/github/composer/bin/composer.phar/vendor/composer/autoloa
@FélixGagnon-Grenier thanks for trying. I don't think it's us doing something dumb. it looks a bit borked.
 
@Danack is this PHP 7? I seem to recall there being something with phar that was borked
but I may be wrong
anyway, I'm off to procrastinate, cyaz
 
I remember that as well, but it's not that. Went back to 5.3 to double check...
It's just generating the phar bogusly.
 
any diamond moderators around?
 
@Danack You still need someone to run this?
 
2:21 AM
That's not the stuff moderators deal with usually.....it lacks any swear words for a start.
@LeviMorrison no Félix did.
 
the file effectively is not there
 
It definitely seems borken. I suspect it's been like that for a while, and doesn't show the issue if you have a composer.phar that was generated by hand.
I'll open an issue in the morning, as there is still a chance I mucked something up.
 
@Danack By the way I get the same issue:
$ php composer.phar

Warning: require(phar:///private/tmp/composer/bin/composer.phar/vendor/composer/autoload_files.php): failed to open stream: phar error: "vendor/composer/autoload_files.php" is not a file in phar "/private/tmp/composer/bin/composer.phar" in phar:///private/tmp/composer/bin/composer.phar/vendor/composer/autoload_real.php on line 43

Fatal error: require(): Failed opening required 'phar:///private/tmp/composer/bin/composer.phar/vendor/composer/autoload_files.php' (include_path='.:') in phar:///private/tmp/composer/bin/composer.phar/vendor/composer/autoload_real.php on line 43
 
3rd time the charm then. We can't all have fucked up.
/famous. last. words.
 
it is somewhat strange that all the other files are present
(that is classmap, real and psr4)
 
2:31 AM
I think the error is in the code generator. There possibly shouldn't be any entries in autoload_files.php and so the file doesn't need to be there.
 
those 4 are generated at once
or not
 
Possibly the error is that it's trying to load it, not that it's absent.
 
good point
yeah. looking at other vendor/composer folders in projects, autoload_files is not present when it's not necessary.
just tried to update through the compiled one just in case. apparently it requires the file, so fatal error is thrown
in any event. cya
 
nn.
 
2:49 AM
I always build my own phars (don't use composer's stuff).
Mostly since I don't like autoloading in phars.
I just include all the files in the correct order.
(in the phar stub)
 
3:07 AM
Morning
 
3:32 AM
Eh, Lester actually made a good point:
> From my own perspective, the question is if people actually need to
update from PHP5.3 TO 5.6. Processing 5.2 to 5.3 and up to 5.4 is still
the sensible upgrade path and it's just as easy THEN upgrading straight
to PHP7 so currently I see any debate on 5.6 as academic since so few
people are currently 'stuck' with that version?
 
Is redirecting people to the PHP chat a good response to people asking multiple opinionated questions?
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34279994/mvc-with-cordova-phonegap
 
4:16 AM
good morning...ALL
hello everyone
how can i upload multiple image in postman
?? @Jarlskov @JackSmith
 
 
1 hour later…
5:33 AM
good morning...ALL
 
6:04 AM
moin
 
does any body used SMS api by fdigroup.co.bw I couldn't find the api #help
 
hi, guys . any help with codeigniter barcode reader app.
 
6:20 AM
Hi here, is there any way to pass parameters to methods in the array callable syntax?
 
@Jane example ?
in PHP 7
<?php
class Test {
        public static function method($param) {
                return $param;
        }
}
var_dump((["Test", "method"])(true));
that will work ...
but I guess you're not using that yet ... it should be clear that ["Test", "method"] isn't a function call, ($callable)() is ... in php 7 ...
 
@JoeWatkins Thanks you! I'm just trying to figure out if it is possible. It looks very handy.
 
how to decrypt bitauth password in mysql database
$P$B3ia8kkp50ykSdbT2TioIbBo/YEa591 help me decrypt this . it aint md5 / sha1 .
 
moin
 
6:33 AM
You don't decrypt hashes... if you forgot your password, use the same code they're using to generate a new one by updating the record in the database...
 
i have no idea how bitauth works.. the guys worked here left me no traces . i ve got to crack the password .. im stuck.
 
7:08 AM
I'm so tired, trying to work and pack up the house is not an easy task ...
 
/me understand that feeling i have also relocated to new place couple of days ago
 
Good morning lovelies
 
Out of curiosity @JoeWatkins SVN or git?
 
git
@AnmolRaghuvanshiVersion1.0 it's rough ... just three more days though, then it's all over ...
except it's not really, I'll be getting the move done in a few days, before xmas, but have to come back here in january and finish painting and deep cleaning and whatever ...
already started some of it ... but can't really do carpets until we're all out ...
 
7:26 AM
cracked it .. just generated the password using wordpress code... this is all it takes
$pass_word = wp_hash_password('pass'); @Ultimater
 
guys how do i get rid of bitauth mins_locked_out on login
 
7:49 AM
ok. I'm not sure how much you understand to what extent the poutine I just made is amongst the things you want to eat before you die.
like. chili pepper, chicken broth, fried oignons, beef gravy. heaven
 
8:05 AM
hi 11
Guys I am using PHP Activerecorder when i call Save() function it insert the data multiple times for a call. It is not happening consistently.
 
@MadaraUchiha hehe
 
8:36 AM
M0rning everyone!
 
Meurning!
 
o/ Naruto
 
o/
@DaveRandom you are being pinged inside a question.. stackoverflow.com/questions/34284512/… ^^
 
8:47 AM
lol @ lack of link
Free traffic!
 
\o Morning everyone.
 
brb school run
 
Aw, that's cute. Actually shows your hat in chat.
 
yup, that was my question @DaveRandom
I wasn't trying to ping him, but I could have linked an answer to his answer
 
@Sean That's not a hat, that's a cake.
 
8:56 AM
- an answer
 
Why not both?
 
An edible hat!
 
@Beeelze so if I understand you right, what you want is a way to define a parent pool of addresses and then mark subnets as "used", and you basically need a way query the allocations to find a free subnet of an arbitrary size?
 
I'll say from the outset that I happen to know that the way most ISPs handle this is to essentially break the network up so that the largest possible chunk always exists, and they'll break that chunk down into smaller objects as and when required
 
9:02 AM
Yup, that's about right
 
However it does start to get more complex when you factor in long-term churn (i.e. subnets coming up for re-use over time)
 
Are you familiar with rack tables?
 
No, I've never maintained a large enough set of servers that I felt something like that was necessary. However I can see what you want and I can sort of see how it could be done, what RDBMS are you using in the back end?
 
Mysql
same as what rack tables uses
 
@Sean I don't even see your picture.. so how can I see your hat? :P
 
9:07 AM
the table where it stores its IPv4 Network information only has these columns: id, ip (int) mask and name
it's quite complex, but the source code is available so I'm trying to find how they did it
 
God why do all server/infrastructure/dbms webgui's suck so hard
 
@PeeHaa because you didn't make them? ;)
 
It's not just the usual "I didn't make it myself so it sucks". They actually all suck
 
@Beeelze I can sort of see the necessary logic, I need to do some real work for a couple of hrs but I'll have a play around with it this afternoon. I think it should be possible to do with a single, hideously-complex-but-probably-still-pretty-quick SELECT.
It might get tricky if you have multiple supernets
I'll think about it for a bit
 
@DaveRandom ok thanks a lot for looking into it
should I give you a ping later on?
 
9:15 AM
@Beeelze Yeh, if you've not heard from by by about 1600UTC then drop me a ping, I'll try and ping you before then
 
alright, thanks once again
 
Hmm. If I have classes which render form components, and I want to display a "read-only" version of those components (e.g. Just the answer, no input fields), would it be better to create a readOnly() type flag for the component classes or create a new component completely which mimics the original, but doesn't contain any form-based html?
 
readonly sounds like a property of a field to me
 
9:34 AM
 
Mornin'!
 
zbeavat!
 
And the way it is rendered is not a property of the field
 
MGE
hello, i would like to know how to conver 08:00 PM to timestamp
of an specific date
 
@PeeHaa because it should be done in the terminal
 
9:43 AM
 
@FlorianMargaine snmp terminal overview sucks :-)
 
nvm
 
Morning all.
 
@PeeHaa your mom does
 
:P
 
MGE
9:55 AM
@DaveRandom but with the hour string as "08:00 AM" ?
 
@MGE You either want strtotime() or DateTime::createFromFormat() depending on exactly what you are doing, the examples on both pages should help you see how to use them for whatever you need...
@FlorianMargaine She simultaneously sucks and blows
 
ThW
Morning
 
@DaveRandom the best kind of mom
 
So theories why getting a json response from POST curl (and artax) from my own server only returns the first 24488 characters, but when I use the POSTMAN extension i get the full result?
 
@Fabor wtf
Does that limit apply to every HTTP request or just this specific service?
 
10:08 AM
No other services on that server. So not sure tbh.
 
@Fabor No I mean the remote service
i.e. can you download more than 24488 bytes of json from some other source on that server?
 
Will try a tcp dump with @Leigh
 
Yeh, it would definitely be worth knowing a) whether the remote server sends you more data than that and b) which end is terminating the connection (if either)
 
24488 is very specific
also weird that adding another layer makes it send the full response...
 
Why do I find angsty metal great for background noise while coding :V
 
10:20 AM
@Fabor What is the content length provided?
 
It's chunked so can't see length
 
@FlorianMargaine ?
What do you mean by "another layer"?
 
@DaveRandom if I understood correctly, he puts POSTMAN in front of it?
 
@Sean Are you writing Java?
 
ah, no
postman is an http client
sorry
 
10:27 AM
:-P
 
dunno why, I thought it was an apache module
 
@DaveRandom :P Nope, just plain ol' PHP!
 
Wow, I'd genuinely almost completely forgotten about the existence of Apache. It was not an unpleasant sensation.
 
Ah, postman is cutting off too early too. So scrap that bit of info. Strange because I got the whole thing at some point.
tcpdump is being cut off
 
How to get values from
DTS\eBaySDK\Trading\Types\AddressType Object
(
[values:DTS\eBaySDK\Types\BaseType:private] => Array
(
[Name] => Test User
[Street1] => address
[Street2] =>
[CityName] => city
[StateOrProvince] => BUCKINGHAMSHIRE
[Country] => GB
[CountryName] => United Kingdom
[Phone] => 1 800 111 1111
[PostalCode] => HP19 3EQ
[AddressID] => 7725220
[AddressOwner] => eBay
[ExternalAddressID] =>
)

[attachment:DTS\eBaySDK\Types\BaseType:private] => Array
(
[data] =>
[mimeType] =>
)

)
 
10:33 AM
@Shijin this object probably has some methods to get these values
 
@Fabor What are the last 3 packets in the stream?
 
@FlorianMargaine Is it located in DTS\eBaySDK\Types\BaseType ?
 
@Shijin I'd suggest looking at the documentation of the ebay SDK
 
i.e. who, if anyone, sends a packet with FIN and or RST set, and is it followed by any ACKs?
 
grumble
 
10:34 AM
I agree
 
@Shijin If it's anything similar to their java, you use getters to access those protected fields. See here /cc @FlorianMargaine
 
last 3 packets are just full of partial json
 
java SDK*
 
+ TCP/IP headers
 
@Sean This is not java
it is php
 
10:35 AM
@Leigh last packet does not have RST or FIN set?
 
Flags [.]
 
@Sean @FlorianMargaine I am using github.com/davidtsadler/ebay-sdk
 
Sounds like a server-side problem then, could be that some router along the way is throwing a hissy-fit but more likely server app is just sdying
 
> This repository is now deprecated and will reach its end of life on the 6th December 2015. It is only maintained for bug fixes. A new version of the SDK has been released and is available at github.com/davidtsadler/ebay-sdk-php.
seriously
@Leigh @Fabor what's the server?
 
@FlorianMargaine Actually i am using the latest , I only try to show them it is not java
 
10:38 AM
Hang on, wasn't entirely accurate on last packets, because the tcpdump filter I gave fab was filtering by packet length, running again to see if there's smaller ones at the end
 
@Shijin The BaseType class is a good place to start. Att he very least it has a toArray method call. /CC @FlorianMargaine
At the*
It also has magic a magic __get() method too. Have you tried just trying to access those protected properties?
 
@Sean Thanks
 
@FlorianMargaine idd!
Man that's so weird.
 
@Sean I spent more than 4 hour to fix this,Thank you so much
 
10:43 AM
The politicians of the U.K. should watch Katie Hopkins of Daily http://Mail.com on @FoxNews. Many people in the U.K. agree with me!
 
So we sniffed fpm, sending full response to nginx, then nginx sending partial response to browser
 
There are literally no words
@Leigh I say yum update, you say nginx! yum update
 
there's also another gzip-related issue in the same thread
 
response isn't being compressed
 
proxy_buffering off; sounds like the best solution there, and a decent thing to do in general on most servers
 
10:54 AM
Finally! MAMP has got PHP7.
 
@DaveRandom it's quite recent though
nginx 1.7.11 iirc
last march
 
I have a question
I have the easiest setup you can think 5 simple .html pages. with a assets folder etc for styles ...
 
(I remember packaging it as soon as it went out to deploy it on our infrastructure)
 
Nothing more then that. But I want to use PHPMailer.
Should I just generate in the root dir a composer.json and autoload it? Or are there better practices in this situation?
 
Yea it's a permissions issue with the fastcgi tmp buffer dir, but not on the dir itself, on one of the parents
 
11:08 AM
@Danack So basically just brk's from malloc usage. I guess having at least two of them is not really avoidable. PHP 7 might do better as we're using mmap more (in the ZMM), but we still have ordinary system allocations as well.
 
@Leigh cool :)
 
@rtheunissen Yes, it's merged with arData now. See slideshare.net/nikita_ppv/php-7-what-changed-internally#slide75
 
@NikiC Probably. It is possible there might be a better scheme though. I'm guessing what is currently happening is Request starts => PHP FPM increases memory to what it thinks it will need. Request ends => PHP FPM reduces memory to what an idle process needs. If it was a viable trade-off to always have the 'increased' memory size used, it could remove two system calls in general.
And there's three calls btw. So one of them definitely seems redundant.
 
@Danack still, 3 malloc shouldn't cause your server to go down
 
It doesn't .....it's just 'measurably' slower.
 
11:17 AM
that shouldn't
@Danack you might want to try a simple C program with 3 malloc
 
@FlorianMargaine Not three mallocs, three brks
 
shakes tiny fist
http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/brk.2.html - brk() and sbrk() change the location of the program break, which
defines the end of the process's data segment (i.e., the program
break is the first location after the end of the uninitialized data
segment). Increasing the program break has the effect of allocating
memory to the process; decreasing the break deallocates memory.
 
@PeeHaa In my opinion burninating will just not help. While keeping it or synonmizing it will help keep things in order.
 
Hello does anybody know how to download ImageMagick and use it in PHP with Xampp in windows? I've searched all over but i don't seem to find any usefull tutorial..
 
@Himanshu Download both ImageMagick from windows.php.net/downloads/pecl/deps and Imagick from windows.php.net/downloads/pecl/releases/imagick
 
You need to download both things from the same place...as mixing and matching libraries from different sites doesn't work.
> You can't really blame people for abandoning the PHP extension, since apparently it has to be compiled with the "right" ever-varying compiler and matched at least with apache and ImageMagick builds. What is surprising about the situation is that this problem has been going on for over five years and it still isn't handled.
19 hours ago, by Danack
In totally unrelated news I need to get a T-shirt that says "STOP COPYING FILES AROUND AT RANDOM, FUCKTARDS"
2
 
LOL
 
But let us not leave the linux users feeling smug: bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=71071
 
@Danack @Oldskool ok thanks for help
 
11:36 AM
@SergeyTelshevsky lol
 
cough feel free to upvote a little bit: stackoverflow.com/a/34288143/778719
 
@Danack Have an upvote
 
cheers.
 
11:51 AM
@Andrea Start heckling phpnw on twitter for the videos with me :P
 
Jimbo your video isn't on youtube yet..
 
Yep
I just want to grab a screenshot of @rdlowrey's face on the projector and use it as my twitter profile banner
 
@Jimbo I'm gonna put it on my bed sheets
5
 
Christmas wrapping paper.
Send those gifts to him.
 
The size of what I pass in the function is important? for example, is it better to I pass this:
$sth->execute();
function myfunc ($sth){ // do something}
Or this:
$sth->execute();
$end = $sth->fetch()
function myfunc ($end){ // do something}
 
12:03 PM
@SergeyTelshevsky hahaha
 
@Gordon Ahhaha, out of context stars :D
 
12:19 PM
Morning guys, I have a Database question
 
@JoeWatkins pls send me the poc as well
 
Suppose a person uploads a picture on my site. Then there will be 3 buttons under that picture.
1) Like Button
2) Follow Button
3) Download Button
 
I know it's wrong, but you can see what I'm going for ...
 
If a person follows that person who uploaded it then how should I store that in database ?
 
dunno how important it is to free persistent strings ... if it is we can cache zend_string*'s to free in z_deactivate or something like that ...
 
12:21 PM
@JoeWatkins Ah, basically LEAK ALL THE THINGS
 
well not necessarily, we could free them ...
 
Cause there will be 1 column named "Following"
 
it was more ignore refcounting for IS_STR_PERSISTENT like we do for IS_STR_INTERNED
 
Or many rows should be inserted in that table for different following of that person ?
 
then we can find a way to free them at the right time ... (zend_string_free still works like it should)
 
12:23 PM
Someone with interest in ZTS should make interned strings work for 7.1
 
are all of the culprits interned ?
(I don't see that stuff because only ever use zts)
 
Dunno
 
me neither ...
 
@JoeWatkins Basically, what we need here is a distinction between "addref for persistent storage" and "addref"
 
yeah, basically
and delref/release, but yeah, you got it ...
if you could do that so that it doesn't ruin everything, it'd be really good ... I have about 10 people bugging me for 20 different things today ...
 
12:27 PM
Any help guys ? :/
 
leaking persistent strings isn't a huge problem, right @NikiC ?
 
@JoeWatkins As long as it doesn't leak in valgrind...
 
@ZahidSaeed Just build it any way and then find out where stuff breaks. btw what you'll actually find is the SQL is rubbish for social stuff, and you'll need to switch to a graph based storage such as neo4j.com if you actually get that far in the project.
 
how to do that ?
 
In unrelated news: Yasuo made a commit. The expected happened.
 
12:30 PM
broken, right ?
so we do have to free the strings ...
could we create a list of persistent strings in alloc() and free on zend_deactivate() (or some other one per proc function) ?
the problem is in multithreading sapi/env, allocating a persistent string is going to have to acquire a global mutex
which is pretty horrible ...
they would only leak in zts
in nts they are interned
come to think of it, the only way for interned strings to work would be by using a global mutex in zts too ... probably better to leave it out ... imo ...
Xinchen once wrote a lockless structure for a cache, we might be able to do something lockless, but it's a bit fancy ... I wouldn't like to debug that ...
 
It's time to rediscover MVC and restore it to its original, human-centered purpose: https://github.com/ciscoheat/mithril-hx/wiki/Rediscovering-MVC #MVC #UserExperience #UX
@tereško ^
might be of interest to you (and others)
 
12:46 PM
Hi
mysql_old_password can not be loaded any body knows about this error
 
...
 
 
^ let me guess: mac user :P
 
@Gordon why would controller create and Manage views?
Sort
 
i'm getting this error in MySqlWorkbench
 
12:48 PM
... Damned Phone
 
@tereško because apparently Trygve said so
 
Huh?!
 
also note the note at the end:
> It is important to realize that these reports reflect an idea and a particular implementation. They are not a final answer where every sentence can be taken as normative.
 
I will probably read the entire thing a bit later instead of skimming with a 5'' screen
 

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