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Ven
12:00 PM
@Jefery desperate¿
 
also I am having the butter cream cake, it's yummy!
 
BBL
 
I'll come back when it's less Lounge<TeenagerProblems>
 
@AlexM. there's slack, if you want to chat.
 
@AlexM. Good thing I'm not a teenager.
 
Ven
12:01 PM
@AlexM. it's always that. Like Lounge<Rightfold's Vagina> wasn't teenager-y
 
@thecoshman I thought you were engaged.
@thecoshman Psychology says no thing.
 
gosh, if you knew what you are going to say, why ask the loungers?
 
I didn't.
I went with @thecoshman's reply.
'cause it's :ok_hand:
 
well, it's kind of worth it, even though it's not pretty enough to my standard - because it's one of the best butter cream cake place ... the taste is ... superb!
 
 
12:09 PM
I should take this opportunity to sleep.
Sorry for moping about my lame problems.
 
No problems. Whenever I have problems with lounge/Stackoverflow, I usually go to my friends and complain about them. I need to quit internet.
 
@Andy how do you wanna talk? Slack?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes hmm wait let's see if I can get back my credentials
 
sorry telkitty.
 
oh, yeah I managed
 
12:13 PM
that's okay
 
@Rapptz np m8, I don’t say much outside of lame jokes but I do read most of it
> concept bool IteratorDeference
woops
 
I love my RL friends, they are stuck with me for so long, I don't need to explain anything.
All complaints will be countered with 'I am not surprised, knowing you!'
 
Xeo
@LucDanton time to sleep :P
 
@orlp Can I steal your variadic hypot function from last time? I can't be bothered to reimplement it.
 
I am touched when my friends stand up for me when someone else criticizes me.
Even when I was not always right.
 
12:16 PM
@R.Martinho sent invitation on slack. No hurry
 
that's why I prefer long term friends: the lack of need to explain things
 
@Xeo I barely started! I need to have something that compiles
 
@AndyProwl Invitation? For what?
I'm already in it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Channel on slack for communication
 
@edition likes or uploads?
 
12:17 PM
I thought that's the way it's done
 
Oh, you made a channel.
Slack has PMs.
 
yeah but doesn't matter I've got your message
 
@Mr.kbok the likes, you convinced me to listen to songs I had never heard before, and they were good.
 
yeah, I figured
 
@edition oh, cool.
 
12:22 PM
aw, no GCC extension for []<typename X>(X) requires Foo<X> {}
 
mmm?
You mean, it requires a name or did you mean invocation with Foo<X>()?
 
no requires-clause possible
 
Oh. Heheh requires was code :)
I'm still getting used to this syntax
 
oh yeah that looks silly
 
There was a discussion about this in the concepts mailing list IIRC
With Sutton saying that for that he'd use a function object
Rather than a lambda
Although terse syntax should be supported
 
12:26 PM
Debugging concepts is a pain atm and I was looking for any possible hack around it
 
So I expect [] (Foo x) {} to work for some concept Foo
 
@AndyProwl yeah that’s fine
 
@chmod666telkitty weakness is not attractive, we established that earlier today
 
I’m not sure if full placeholder syntax is allowed because GCC complains, e.g. [](Foo<auto>) {}, which is what I could use
well, in some cases at least
 
@ElimGarak I hate how she gratuitously calls into question facts on the mere basis of "surely that can't happen"
 
12:27 PM
@sehe strategically showing weakness is a good thing.
I was taught so in the leadership course for my master of business postgrad degree
 
Oh. Well not if you're trying to found a religioius state in the chaos of effectively ungoverned countries that are wrecked by tribal and civil wars
 
TIL we're weak autistic bastards
10
 
@chmod666telkitty Well. I guess that didn't apply to establishing authority in the above sketched situations
 
@AndyProwl if I am looking for 'normal people' who I can't relate to, I would have signed up for facebook
 
note:   constraints not satisfied
note:   concept 'Iterator<int&&>' was not satisfied
this is a hard sell :s
 
12:31 PM
@chmod666telkitty straw man much? Yes they have our sympathy. Perhaps not enough. Your solution please
 
Ven
also give some sympathy to people in beirut, korea, japan and some other for all the shit that happened this weekend...
 
Not just this weekend. Over the years
 
also where's the world's sympathy for Andy & Rapptz </joke>
 
It's all in a Swiss bank account
 
that's a good start
 
12:37 PM
@Jefery Why?
 
> Corrected spelling
 
I am not on facebook.
 
@Ven Meh, sincerely fuck that. Give yourself some remorse for not giving a shit about them until they get fucked over that bad.
 
@chmod666telkitty you mean, not anymore?
 
12:42 PM
I never was ... telkitty digital belongs to me though, have not updated it for years
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think it's fair to say the people of Iraq, Syria ... are getting fucked over much harder all the freaking time. Sadly
 
I have an idea to make a lot of money, but it heavily involves porn
what should I do?
 
@Dean are you trying to be funny?
 
@chmod666telkitty I'm surprised you would leave such an awful platform by the side, without getting yourself banned first.
 
@Dean If you are certain that you can & it's legal: do it
 
12:44 PM
Thank you chmod
 
@edition no I'm serious
 
That should take care of the troll
 
@Dean define your moral limits
 
Non existent. He's coming to the Lounge (sic) for correction
 
Today, this guy asked to be friend with me on facebook though sms. He probably have dated a dozen other girls & we have known each other for two years, so my answer was 'I am not on facebook'. What I really mean was: I am not into playing games with you because I know you too well.
 
Ven
12:46 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I mostly care because I have some friends that are in korea rn, and because some of my friends' family live in those places
chmod 2 good 4 mindgame
 
am I not a trusted user on facebook, @Mr.kbok? its fair enough, since I am a random person from the lounge.
 
what do you mean?
 
he asked to befriend you on FB maybe?
 
Apparently the police decided to visit some people and found a rocket launcher among other weapons.
 
> "define your moral limits"
I bet they said
 
12:52 PM
@Mr.kbok am I allowed to communicate with you via facebook?
 
Ven
@Morwenn lol. Well, if paris gets blown up, you'll know why I'm not around anymore :P
 
That's a weird thing to say.
With a smiley
 
@Ven They found it in Lyon.
 
Ven
brb contacting my family in lyon then
@sehe if paris gets blown up, there'll be things at much higher stakes than my life
 
@Ven would have to be a big ass launcher
 
12:54 PM
House arrest for 104 people. 31 weapons found.
 
@edition I guess? you mean technically?
 
Ven
@Mr.kbok I'm not such a launcher, nor do I have a big ass – still I can't lie
 
what makes you think that Paris will get blown up before NY, Beijing or Sydney even?
 
@Morwenn 4896 to go
 
Ven
because shut the fuck up chmod
 
12:55 PM
@chmod666telkitty Because it was attacked first
@chmod666telkitty Also no one cares about australia
 
> Let's blow the desert.
 
user1804599
Hey!
 
there were 2 lone wolf attacks in the past 12 months in Sydney
 
Australia is mainly empty and the coast will eventually get under the sea with the rising level of the ocean.
 
@Ven please, that's uncalled for.
 
12:57 PM
@chmod666telkitty terrorists attack wolves now??
 
but since it's kind of like a large island surrounded by the sea, I guess it's harder for terrorists to kayak across the ocean to reach here ...
 
You don't have to like everyone. But if you're actively misbehaving, I'll be happy to deal with the consequences.
 
Ven
@sehe gnerf. fair.
@Elyse hii
 
:D
 
user1804599
@Ven stfu() { $@ 2>&1 >/dev/null }
 
Ven
12:59 PM
chmod is that one friend you have who's so blatantly wrong all the time, and mostly doesn't understand what they're saying, that you're not even sure where to start from at this point.
@Elyse yes yes
 
user1804599
chown is worse.
 
Ven
chown is not a friend.
 
user1804599
clown is
 
Ven
I chown'd your mom
 
user1804599
12:59 PM
hot
 
If a question is asked and the answer is you forgot to use std:: or a using statement should that be closed as a typo or is there a dupe target for that?
 
@Rapptz yep :\
 
user1804599
I want Snickers without pindas.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
user1804599
Because pindas are disgusting.
 
1:01 PM
@sehe Yes, repeatedly since Europeans drove the Ottoman Empire to instability and carved it in to the power kegs that have been burning for years.
 
Beautifully put.
That achieves a well-nigh cinematographic expansion of the horizon.
 
after C++, writing C# is like a walk in the park.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and yet that process is called 'balkanisation', that’s how much nobody cares!
 
@NathanOliver How could there be dupe target. It's a typo. A dupe is when the exact question (essentially) is asked
@edition Depends a lot (if not exclusively) on what you're trying to do with it
 
user1804599
 
1:05 PM
@sehe thanks. I just wanted to make sure.
 
@LucDanton In fairness, doing the right thing hasn't really been invented yet. Although some governments might slowly be starting to learn restraint.
 
its unusual how I perceive C++ to be more difficult than C# and VB.
 
Sadly, it looks like new governments will soon be tasting that power that leads to over-estimation and lack of restraint
@edition Depending on what you use it for, that's trivially true.
 
@sehe i maek joek
 
@Elyse pindas?
 
user1804599
1:06 PM
Pinda may refer to: Mizengo Pinda, Prime Minister of Tanzania Pinda (riceball), rice balls offered to ancestors during Hindu funeral rites and ancestor worship The Dutch word for peanut == See also == Pindi (disambiguation)...
 
do you mean peanuts?
o_0
 
user1804599
Oh it's called peanut in English.
 
user1804599
One more reason to hate peanuts.
 
oh, then you want a Mars bar :P
@Elyse ... because different languages are different?
 
@LucDanton As with all good jokes, they work because there's truth to them. I'm just commiserating that we don't really have better guidance. Not of any definitive kind I don't think
 
user1804599
1:07 PM
@thecoshman Yeah Mars > Nickers.
 
@Elyse I like Snikers, they even have a limited edition (or had...) version with extra nuts.
And one that has hazel nuts too
 
user1804599
You're nuts.
 
Ven
@thecoshman frozen snickers > *
 
Frozen is the best way to eat them, I mean if you don't care about breaking your teeth or anything
 
Yup my shoot script works again
 
1:11 PM
@Ven well most chocolate is nice when chilled
 
Autistic bastard #6 back from lunch
 
Ven
@DarenCoffey they broke already
@thecoshman I prefer frozen snickers to, say, frozen mars
 
@Ven I prefer Snickers either way
 
Ven
.oO( well, we did find some ice on mars after all..? )
 
user1804599
1:16 PM
I'm addicted to Fallout 4. I need addictol.
 
> { as_const(it) + n } -> std::decay<It>;
find the bug
 
user1804599
lack of return and ;
 
@LucDanton C++ lol lol lol
 
user1804599
lack of typename and ::type
 
Yay. SE Chat modifications back
 
Xeo
1:19 PM
@Elyse or just "lack of _t"
 
@Xeo did you change avatars/or did I really just notice late
 
Travolta in Inception, was that in the actual movie or is this some sort of fake?
 
@Rapptz remove traits from premises! only trouble
 
Xeo
@sehe slooow
 
@sehe Late :)
 
1:21 PM
So, how long? And what was it before :S
 
@sehe in your 'deffence', you could have had a cached version for a while.
 
Xeo
lol
 
@thecoshman Of course not.
 
Xeo
two weeks or so?
 
Apr 13 '12 at 15:11, by sehe
@RMartinhoFernandes Oh. Like that. I tend to fully disregard avatars :(
@Xeo And what was it before? I can't remember
 
1:22 PM
@sehe how do you know who wrote what?
 
Wasn't it a blue thingy?
 
@LucDanton I read the names, obviously
 
that doesn’t make sense
 
Silly question coming from the identicon user
 
@sehe I have a backup avatar that I can upload if that’s ever a problem
 
1:23 PM
I've always wondered @sehe. Is the facepalming part of your avatar on purpose?
 
Apr 13 '12 at 15:18, by sehe
I just look at the announcements to the left of messages :)
Not a problem
@Rerito No. That happened in an ADL accident
 
btw it compiles, maybe (always hard to tell with templates)
 
Xeo
@sehe weird. everyone else seems to go by avatars.
 
Hardly news. I'm not everyone
I also don't need ad blocker because I simply don't see the ads
 
@sehe DNS filtering at home :p
 
first opinion on concepts so far: eeeeeeeeeeeeh
 
with 'm' in front?
 
@Xeo Oh yeah! That was nicer IMO
 
@AndyProwl nah it’s not that bad
 
@LucDanton then I'm not sure how to interpret it
 
1:26 PM
@sehe Why what?
 
as usual it’s really hard to be fair because this is comparing an unreleased implementation to well-honed practices
 
@Xeo Good thing I'll hardly notice the difference ('xcept maybe on answers, where I'm used to associating your avatar with "Good stuff")
@Jefery The cake.
 
@Jefery why the gratuitous food porn
 
@AndyProwl I would like to say they feel nice to use, but it’s not quite there yet
wtf did I write
 
@LucDanton That's what she said
 
1:26 PM
hm, I wanna play with concepts too
 
To make you all hungry obviously
It's not like it's the first time I do it either
 
which is what triggered the question, I reckon
 
@AndyProwl takes 15 minutes to compile GCC on my machine
 
You would think that after a couple of years the confusion would vanish
 
Celebrating my re-configured desktop experience with random amusing tidbits from 2003 onion
 
1:28 PM
@LucDanton but I'm a dumb windower with a company laptop
 
Xeo
@sehe Yeah, I plan on changing it again
@LucDanton from scratch? :P
 
@AndyProwl Ild like to have a company laptop to work at home :(
 
@Jefery You would think that after a couple of years the thrill would vanish
 
@Xeo See? Nobody likes the new avatar.
You have promised to change it back like a month ago
 
@Xeo yes, what else?
 
Xeo
1:29 PM
lol
@Jefery When I barely have it for two weeks?
 
it doesn’t take 15 mins for an incremental rebuild I can tell you that
 
@Jefery True. If /even sehe notices/
 
@sehe The thrill that comes from being an asshole never vanished <3
 
@Xeo you knew it was bad before you even swapped to it :P
 
Nov 9 at 8:08, by Jefffrey
@JonClements Can you also change back Xeo's avatar please?
Ok, maybe not a month
 
Xeo
1:30 PM
7 days
 
@Jefery you might even say, it's shiterlating
 
@thecoshman I don't get the pun
My english knowledge is not acute enough
 
user1804599
 
Ven
I fucking hate people posting music on yt with porn captions.
if I want to listen to music, I'm going to deezer.
 
@Jefery 'titerlating'
 
1:34 PM
... ugh cosh
 
@thecoshman Cannot compute
 
He means titillating, presumably
 
NIce instance of Muprhey's Law there
 
@Jefery [translate.google.com/#en/it/titillating](it fucking suggested the correction for you)
fuck it
that'll do
 
Ven
1:36 PM
@sehe it's Muphry :P
 
well done
 
> The students should install Python version 2.7.3 or later version
 
@thecoshman you mean, "sorry for the confusion"?
 
@thecoshman I'm sorry that I don't know what the fuck you are talking about because you are unable to spell words correctly.
It's totally my fault.
 
well now... are we doing python 2 or python 3?
 
1:37 PM
I hope your wife will forgive me.
 
@thecoshman Clearly 2. Duh. It says so right there
 
Ven
do perl instead.
 
@sehe except three is a later version :\
 
Ven
@Jefery why did you shoot his wife's legs?
 
@Ven ... you leave now.
 
Ven
1:38 PM
That's what happens when you do someone else's C++.
@thecoshman nej, I've been here for more than a year now.
I'm entitled to some rightfolding once in a while
 
@thecoshman No. 3 is a different language (spec)
Jun 11 '14 at 11:07, by Ven
I never learned perl 5. I got into perl 6 because it's quite fun.
 
@sehe ergh... sure, but it's still python
 
@Ven and?
 
Ven
@sehe that was last year, I did learn p5 in the meantime :)
the nice community offered me a book
 
1:41 PM
@jaggedSpire :3
 
Ven
@thecoshman and <next line>
 
@Jefery :3
 
@thecoshman Then don't ask..
 
The last one!
 
ffs, I apparently have three unread emails, but outlook doesn't want to show me
 
Ell
1:42 PM
@ElimGarak are you asking what phone I have? wileyfox swift
 
Use Thunderbird
 
@thecoshman Why don't you use an email client then?
 
@wilx they're all brilliant. Elections for good ideas will be reheald
@thecoshman Wait. Do you still out Outlook? I thought that was replaced by "Outlook Not Responding" around 2003
(When they phased out Express)
@Ven which you, of course, refused
 
Ven
@sehe no, I took it, and read it all. The 1000 pages.
 
@Ven Which book? I have probably read it too.
 
Ven
1:46 PM
@sehe Programming Perl, 4th Edition, IIRC.
 
Perl 4?! Kindly offerred?
They dumped it on you
 
Ven
* fixed
It's a good book, but maybe a tad too long :P. 1000+ pages about Perl 5.
 
Outlook is the only viable option I know of if you actually want to work all that MS exchange stuff.
 
Outlook's alright
Outlook Express is (was?) way better, but it's XP-only :(
 
Ven
iMail's pretty bad though :[
 
1:50 PM
the kitchen in the new place
 
@wilx cool stuff
 
@wilx I think these days they (maybe just some of them) just stand in front of normal video screens, no green screen stuff.
 
@Ven What's that?
 
@chmod666telkitty almost built eh
 
Ven
1:52 PM
@Jefery os x's mail client. Keeps randomly disconnecting, or asking for my password
 
bathroom ... as you can see, it's slowly getting there ^_^
 
@chmod666telkitty Which parts did you actually make yourself?
 
@Ven OS X Mail client is called "Mail"
 
Ven
@Jefery it's aaaaapppleeeee. You're right, though. It still blows
 
@Ven I use that and I don't remember it asking my password in months if not years
 
1:53 PM
> Enforcement: Detect this horror!
very serious
> Reason: This is C++
 
Have you added your mail account in the preferences > accounts panel? What server does your email address lean on? GMail?
 
meh
 
Ven
@Jefery mostly hotmail fucks up.
but gmail reminds me everyday that I connect to my email from different places (well, $work and $home)
 
@Ven well, yes and no. 'Mail' is an Apple developed mail client that is the default mail client for OS X, verbose enough for you?
 
@Mr.kbok I build the whole thing myself (with a lot of help from my dad), except the piers (machine), concrete (hired tradesman), roof(tradesmen again), plumbing & part of electrical work. Kitchen is custom made. To be fair, my dad probably did more work than me.
 
1:55 PM
So you see that we have come to the conclusion that it's hotmail (or in other words, you) who have fucked up. Not Apple.
Shocking.
 
Ven
@thecoshman ya, you pass
@Jefery Mostly. Gmail asks me for a password once in a while as well. Or sometimes, my account just isn't displayed in the list of accounts, for some reason. But it's there in the settings. Toggling the disabled/enabled will most often make it pop up back again
 
@Ven If you look closely stackoverflow-sehe.s3.amazonaws.com/… you'll note I have it buried in the back row in my book case
 
Ven
@sehe that won't load
 
It's a webm. Perhaps d/l then play
 
Ven
it won't webm here
 
1:58 PM
Gosh. What platform is /that/
 
> http://stackoverflow-sehe.s3.amazonaws.com/
 
Win3.11 for workgroups?
@Jefery Congrats. That's the URL :)
 
Ven
ok, downloading made it work. but looking at it from chrome just won't play it.
it is true, you do have it. But I never doubted you did!
 
 
@Ven Your machine is fucked up
 
1:59 PM
@Ven Where did you spot a contradiction?
 
Reset everything and do a clean install
 
Ven
@sehe I meant you didn't need to confirm it with a video
 

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