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2:00 PM
> hey i know this is not really about this whole post ... please help soon i really want to know the code!!
 
Thanks guys, you should also thank @TinyGiant for bountying me
@durron597 Also commented the recent answer
 
@Kyll recent answer is how I found it, I couldn't decide whether to flag it until I realized just to close the question.
 
@durron597 Also downvoted it
Woops
 
2:05 PM
@durron597 Yep, just one of many "plz help me" questions.
 
@durron597 I had been editing the question.
 
@durron597 Are you sure? If so it might be worth investigating into his rep history
 
@Kyll The post is two hours old
 
2:09 PM
never mind, he answered twice this year
 
@Kyll I wasn't suggesting foul play, I just wanted extra attention on that NAA because it got an upvote
 
@durron597 Ah, okay, sorry for jumping to conclusions
 
> you have already raised this type of flag
 
@durron597 I haven't stumbled into one of those yet! (That will be funny in, oh, 6 weeks...)
 
@durron597 There is an auto-format script?
 
2:12 PM
@durron597 Won't help there... That needs to be code.
 
I think so? I haven't used it yet, I think @Mogsdad and @TinyGiant have been playing with it
 
@Kyll Yes! We've taken the good one and made it better!
 
@Mogsdad oh, it takes already existing code and formats it? not fixes trainwrecks?
 
@Mogsdad :o
 
@durron597 It leaves code alone. Anything not formatted as code gets treated as prose.
So make sure you edit code first.
 
2:14 PM
@Mogsdad ohhhhhhh
 
\o/
 
user4639281
@Siguza That might be considered spam
 
user4639281
@Unihedron Boom
 
user4639281
2:18 PM
@durron597 Boom
 
@durron597 So, is imageshack actually banned?
 
user4639281
Others were closed when I got to them
 
@Kyll - check out the FAQ, it has info about tools we commonly use.
 
@Kyll There's no staff response
 
@Mogsdad Heh, good idea
 
2:20 PM
@TinyGiant Hmm... you have a point there
 
If some folks would take a cruise through third-party CVRQ, that'd be great....
@Kyll Just saying'
 
Hey, Confetti could make so that when a message finishes with "Boom!" then fiesta
 
@Mogsdad I was actually planning to wait for the event for once.
room topic changed to SO Close Vote Reviewers: This room is for the weekly close events, discussion(s) about reviewing, and coordination of cleanup efforts site wide. Please visit our FAQ: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/SCVR-RoomInformation [code-smell] [exclude] [scrape] [scraper] [screen-scraping] [sources] [third-party] [web-scraping]
Well, either that or attack
 
^ Might have already signalled it
 
@Kyll I believe you did, because I already cv'ed at that
 
2:30 PM
^ There are a lot of related questions which are also SDK recs
 
We should really have a "migrate to Software Recommendation SE" close option
 
> Where is your code? – Alan Machado 8 secs ago
 
@Mogsdad there is an event at 20:00 UTC
 
inb4 "on my server"
 
2:32 PM
What is that code doing on your server?
 
user4639281
@KevinBrown Boom
 
user4639281
@Siguza There's meta posts about that. and code review
 
user4639281
As well as others
 
@TinyGiant And it wouldn't happen to be >1 year old and dead?
 
user4639281
@Siguza Probably. Just sayin' that there is research that could be done.
 
user4639281
2:35 PM
@Kyll Boom
 
@TinyGiant ty
Out of votes for the day
Dang these things run out fast
 
Here's the latest batch of posts needing downvotes for the roomba (still on the legal cleanup)
 
@Kyll Just ran out too
 
@KevinBrown Is there a tag that should be rolled into the third-party effort?
@rene I know... Paul & I are going through third-party, and stumbling over lots of questions with close votes. Too bad there's no way to filter them out.
 
@Mogsdad They all share ... which sounds like a pretty generic tag
 
2:45 PM
@KevinBrown Yep. What does the room think? Add it to third-party? It's just like external-library. Anyone tagging sdk should be using the specific sdk.
 
@Mogsdad Seems like as useless as third party, so yes
 
@KevinBrown 9,152 questions, definitely generic. Not necessarily a match for third-party, though - native SDK questions will abound.
 
@PaulRoub OMG. 9K. Wait.
 
I'd rather propose that as a separate meta post
 
user4639281
@durron597 magic comment? <--- also
 
2:46 PM
Because, you know, 9k questions is a lot
 
@KevinBrown Yep. It will need mod tools to burn, after an extensive clean up.
 
@Mogsdad Only 8,790 open ones, though :-)
 
@KevinBrown Good luck coming up with a good pun!
"I Still Don't Know why we have an [sdk] tag?
 
@TinyGiant let us know nearer the time
 
2:49 PM
@Mogsdad "So Desperate to Kill the [sdk]"?
 
user4639281
Sounds good
 
@Kyll I like it!
 
"Should Definitely Kill [sdk]"
 
better
 
The art of meta-posting x)
 
user4639281
2:50 PM
SO... Definitely Kill [sdk]
 
@TinyGiant You pinged him! Everybody hide!!!!
 
@TinyGiant what magic comment?
 
user4639281
The one about advising on clearly off-topic yadda yadda
 
Can we back burner ?
is a much worse tag and we still need to finish and the scrape tags
 
[sdk] Deserves Killing
 
2:53 PM
@durron597 I'm all for it
 
user4639281
Yeah, put it in queue. We should burn tags in the order that they come to our attention. More or less.
 
I'd rather prioritize tags which are worse off at the moment
 
user4639281
^^^ That too
 
@TinyGiant tags in the 50 to 250 range should get kicked up the priority queue because we can bang them out faster
 
I'd like to get back to basics and concentrate on clearing the CV queue for a few weeks. Lately we've been more or less treading water because we're adding to the backlog at a brisk pace.
 
2:54 PM
something like is going to take months.
 
user4639281
Yeah.
 
^ Basically a guy trying to create a tag, the question is a tag wiki. Someone explains how things work to him?
 
@TinyGiant - When I click the auto-edit button in an answer, it quits. Is that happening to you? Maybe I missed something in the merge...
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Oh hey, look at that. I must have broke something last night.
 
@TinyGiant 凸(`⌒´メ)凸
That looks ruder than I thought!
 
3:10 PM
@Kyll voted to close as custom and downvoted.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Lol
 
user4639281
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A: Which flag can be use for `convert some code to other programming language`?

Tiny GiantIf it is as clear cut as you describe, I would probably vote to close as Too Broad. However, this is a very generic question so that isn't going to apply to all questions that in one way or another fit into that metric. You can have a question like the following. I have X code and I want th...

 
@TinyGiant The flag doesn't matter. Just make sure it's on a solid pole, and whack them with it, hard.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad rofl
 
@TinyGiant The last paragraph sounds weird.
 
Sam
3:19 PM
@durron597 Lol, the script obviously doesn't escape MD chars.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad How so?
 
@Sam lol
 
user4639281
> As always, posts should be judged on a post by post basis with attention to the merits of the post itself. There will always be exceptions to every rule.
 
user4639281
Better?
 
@TinyGiant That's the second-to-last, no?
 
user4639281
3:22 PM
I thought that's the one you were talking about.
 
I thought it was ok. It's the bit about the chat room.
 
user4639281
What, too obvious pimpin'?
 
@TinyGiant I propose, "If you're ever unsure, check with other users in chat...", and separate it from the "your vote is your own" advice.
 
Jul 9 at 20:36, by durron597
@gunr2171 I'm also trying to pimp this chatroom every time I make an MSO post that's relevant
 
@TinyGiant No - that's great! Send everyone here, so we can collect more MIUPs.
 
3:24 PM
Whatever guys, the question is a blatant dupe
@SmokeDetector fp- too broad and complete crap, but not spam
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad How's that?
 
@gunr2171 @durron597 you guys about for the next 10/15 mins?
 
@TinyGiant Nailed it.
 
@JonClements I'm here, yes
what's up?
 
@JonClements I may need to be pinged but I will be here, what's up?
 
3:27 PM
@durron597 Voted.
 
@PaulRoub thx
 
If you invited me to a room, I got removed from it
 
@durron597 done
 
user4639281
afk.
 
3:29 PM
@ArtjomB. thanks
bbiab
 
@durron597, Jon is attempting to invite you to the room. Just an FYI
(not that you can do anything about it)
 
user4639281
3:49 PM
@ArtjomB. Boom
 
Should "url" be capitalized in question & answer prose?
(Rule for auto-edit.)
 
@Mogsdad not if it is in code (css). it is an acronym, though, so it should be in all caps otherwise
 
@cimmanon That's what I think, and what I am used to seeing in professionally edited books. (And by "prose" I was excluding code, but that probably wasn't clear enough.)
 
its not uncommon for people to write url() without it being in code blocks/markdown, so youll want to account for that
 
user4639281
@cimmanon Basically the way we've set it up catches a lot more stuff, but you want to do a quick runthrough first and make sure that anything that should be in a code block is.
 
user4639281
4:08 PM
@Mogsdad Yeah, I broke something being overzealous.
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
Still some bugs. Workin on it.
 
4:26 PM
Policy Change: NAA flag reqs. are now banned here; a mod will see them anyway. Spam/Off. flag reqs. are still fine, as are discussions "should this be flagged?" on borderline answers.
12
 
(smokey is excluded)
 
@gunr2171 yes, so is Pham and other bots
 
In this question OP has circumvented the closing by editing the answer in. Acceptable? Should be ignored?
 
@Kyll answers should not be in the question. I would roll back. Can the question be edited to be ok?
 
@gunr2171 Well it was asking "what is the best recommended way to" without showing research, so it got closed as POB
I guess it could be refined to be on-topic
I'll edit it tonight
 
user4639281
4:39 PM
@mogs, I fixed some bugs and pushed a new version to my distro.
 
I'm off for home, back in an hour
 
5:24 PM
@TinyGiant Removed periods from the end of comments? OCD much?
 
Sam
@durron597 So what's brought about the change?
 
@Sam two reasons: 1. it's pointless, just stuffs chat logs with irrelevant stuff
2. It has the potential to inspire personal attacks on the poster, which isn't the point of this room
the point of this room is to clean up crap, in a way that's disconnected from the poster of the crap
 
Sam
Kk
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Lol, it merges.
 
@durron597 Is there precedent that this happened? I always thought that we're nice.
 
user4639281
5:30 PM
@ArtjomB. I think the operative word is "potential"
 
The room owners and a mod joined a chat room ealier today. We talked and found out that there is the start of some mildly rude behavior starting, and we want to stop that before it gets too large. The main take away is to never focus on the person.
 
@gunr2171 @ArtjomB. This, and in particular stuff like "haha omg this high rep poster posted an NAA in 2009, gotcha loser!" did happen a few times.
 
Sam
@gunr2171 I really thought you were going to put a LOTR spin on that (the secret council...).
 
well, it was a private chat room that was deleted as soon as we were done...
 
@Sam I flatly deny all rumors that I am an elf on the Council of Elrond.
 
Sam
5:36 PM
:D
 
@Sam So a flower, a LEGO guy, and a giant "N" all walk into a bar...
4
 
Nice story, now I want to know how it ends!
 
they said "ow"
back to work
 
@gunr2171 A puppy ninja brought a beatdown
 
Sam
@gunr2171 ... and the bartender said, "what kind of joke is this?"
 
5:38 PM
@TinyGiant Alright... sync'd with your fixes, + new regex rules for URI/URL and additional coverage for text-english. github.com/mogsdad/Stack-Exchange-Editor-Toolkit/blob/master/…
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Cool, I'll merge it with my latest tweaks in a moment.
 
@Tunaki - I appreciate the enthusiasm, but until we are committed to a burn activity, the tag probably shouldn't be edited to "Don't use". My opinion, of course.
 
@Mogsdad link to review task?
 
5:43 PM
@Mogsdad I did add it to the room topic... I was expecting you to be talking about
 
@durron597 May be no problem then... that's why I aired it here rather than on post. I do wonder why @kenorb posted that, though. (Lacking context, it could mean almost anything.)
 
^ fine?
 
I'm sure it got fped.
 
@durron597 "internet free"?
 
@gunr2171 I got nuthin.
 
5:47 PM
man, why would you think pasting in part of an email would be a good idea, even as spam?
 
@SmokeDetector fp just needs an edit
 
@durron597 Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad there A little bit more ocd now, it doesn't capitalize the first letter if it is merging with an existing string.
 
@durron597 With only 10 upvotes for the code-smell meta post, I think it's early to add it to the list.
@TinyGiant I've been meaning to look at the first-cap thing, because I have hit a few posts where it didn't work. (Even with original script.)
 
user4639281
Hmm, odd it should work.
 
user4639281
5:51 PM
But it only does it for the first reason.
 
user4639281
Even though I thought semicolon combined sentences were still supposed to be individually sentence cased.
 
@TinyGiant :( you didn't like my one-line replace function?!
 
@Mogsdad I think it's case by case, something like is so blatant, IMO, that it can cut the line
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Oh, I didn't do a full diff. I thought you only changed the regexs
 
@TinyGiant line 393
 
user4639281
5:54 PM
@Mogsdad Oh, I ran it through a beautifier.
 
user4639281
It didn't like your one line replacement function.
 
user4639281
Just like my tight ifs
 
@durron597 Nice! (Though now my flag will get declined, sad face)
 
@josilber Well, disputed maybe.
 
6:01 PM
@durron597 Possibly. Why is the flag not marked helpful when another user (not the poster) makes an edit?
Oh well, I have 220 helpful flags per disputed/declined, so I can eat a few bad flags
 
user4639281
- // It's impossible to remove the event listeners, so we have to clone the element without any listeners
- var elClone = this.cloneNode(true);
- this.parentNode.replaceChild(elClone, this);
+ // It's possible to remove the event listeners, because of the way outerHTML works.
+ this.outerHTML = this.outerHTML;
 
user4639281
I love it when people don't know how to use language bugs to solve problems.
 
@josilber that's a much better ratio than mine, i think?
 
user4639281
@SmokeDetector Ignore- edited
 
@josilber bah - think I said I'd have a look at something at some point - juggling many things - remind me again? :p
 
6:07 PM
@JonClements Hey no worries at all. Cleaning up some doomed stag synonyms was what we had been talking about. Deduplicator looked through them (see comment), and I think all the ones in the first list are legit (the first should probably be flipped): meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/305388/…
 
Obviously this is still low priority, but it would be awesome if you could take a second look.
@TinyGiant shog
 
Yeah, I'm at around 32 helpful per disputed / declined right now. but I had a really bad day last month as I was testing the edges
 
user4639281
Seriously?
 
user4639281
> very low quality – Tiny Giant Aug 26 at 19:31 declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it
 
6:09 PM
@TinyGiant why?
 
user4639281
Because it was deleted by Shog, and my flag was declined.
 
user4639281
That was my last declined flag.
 
@TinyGiant My VLQ flag was declined and my second, custom flag on the same answer was helpful
 
yup - looks like that's what triggered a deletion
it's not NAA and it's not VLQ - could do with more maybe?
 
user4639281
I can't remember what the content was.
 
6:12 PM
> you can get value of variable within view by $this->foo
 
Aug 26 at 22:50, by durron597
Yours was one of four VLQ flags declined on that answer, @durron597. What makes you think this feature would've made a difference there? FWIW, I deleted it based on your second flag, but probably would've declined a VLQ flag as well - whatever issues it might have, it isn't VLQ. — Shog9 ♦ 14 mins ago
 
but until durron's "other" flag was raised that addressed the point to effectively "request" action - it wasn't obvious
 
user4639281
@josilber I don't know why I would flag that.
 
user4639281
I must have been tired.
 
I tried your "comment and VLQ flag strategy" here and got declined. So much for not needing this feature. — durron597 Aug 26 at 22:16
 
6:14 PM
@TinyGiant Not sure -- there is no edit history displayed. Durron's comment was "This answer adds nothing at all beyond what was already posted in the accepted answer."
 
user4639281
Still not VLQ, and I'm usually pretty stingy with my flags.
 
This was my custom flag:
> This answer is an exact copy paste of the answer that's currently accepted with less explanation. Shog explained to me that I can raise a VLQ flag with a comment in this meta answer here and I did not feel the need to do a custom flag here because I left a comment. Please delete this answer that adds nothing and copies another answer. – durron597 Aug 26 at 22:16 helpful
 
user4639281
@durron597 Oh, now I remember
 
user4639281
I flagged it during that whole rigamarole.
 
That decline was from back when I thought I could put the "custom" explanation in a comment and have that suffice; it was actually the flag where I learned that was not the case.
That was back when I used VLQ for anything other than posts not-in-english
 
6:16 PM
@TinyGiant my repo is identical to the one you last shared. How about if we work on the same main now?
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Sure, that's why I invited you. Or you could invite me to yours. Don't matter to me who's repo I break.
 
user4639281
We should rename it to name + ' Unlimited'
 
user4639281
Yes I'm too lazy to actually write the name out.
 
user4639281
@durron597 well, I haven't gotten a declined flag since then.
 
@TinyGiant Alright, I've branched from there, "dev-mogsdad". Keep main sane, ok?
 
user4639281
6:20 PM
@Mogsdad I'll... do my best.
 
@TinyGiant I have, but I've also flagged 2000 times since then ;)
 
user4639281
@durron597 I haven't even flagged 2000 times
 
user4639281
If I had more close votes I'd probably flag more.
 
user4639281
I limit the rate at which I view questions to regulate how quickly I spend my close votes. Otherwise I run out too soon.
 
user4639281
Close votes should scale the same way that flags do. The more questions that you've voted to close that actually end up closed, the more close votes you get.
 
6:29 PM
@TinyGiant Well, once I learned about the 10k /tools/new-answers-old-questions I can find 100 new answers to flag every weekday
 
user4639281
@durron597 Ahh yes.
 
user4639281
Plus I could use blaze.
 
@TinyGiant yea
I'm up to 91 today, also recently I've been trying to have slightly higher standards for flags. For example, I let this one slide
Plus also I got declined here:
 
user4639281
@durron597 I wouldn't have flagged that.
 
@TinyGiant I'm not flagging ones like that anymore
 
user4639281
6:37 PM
@durron597 Good to know.
 
What are your thoughts on the one I let slide above?
 
@durron597 as in not flagging as NAA?
 
user4639281
@durron597 Uhhhh, I probably wouldn't flag it. I did downvote it though.
 
user4639281
@PaulRoub Just to let you know, commas cause the request to not be propagated by Zephyr IIRC
 
user4639281
Yeah, they don't propagate if there is a comma in the reason.
 
6:47 PM
@TinyGiant Aha. I guess I should know what Zephyr is?
 
user4639281

 Low Quality Posts HQ

Home of bots for catching low quality posts (and sometimes spa...
 
user4639281
Zephyr is the user that collects all the requests and puts them there.
 
user4639281
@mogs, When you were talking about me removing periods from the ends of comments, did you mean the edit comment or the comments in the code?
 
7:03 PM
uh yeah, kill that one
 
user4639281
Should only need one more
 
@SmokeDetector fp- I'll edit
that's actually seems like a good question
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 I didn't get to see it.
 
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Q: How to send APDU to Mifare Classic 1k card?

OpskiWhat I am trying to achieve is to send APDU command to 1k Mifare Classic card to change it's A and B keys. I was able to establish a connection with the card and use a default key (FFFFFFFFFFFF) to read block 0 and block 1. I used HID MifareSamples application for it. Now, I would like to chang...

 
user4639281
Does look like a good one
 
7:07 PM
ugh, I should not be making sql tables with names like ManualInspectionDefectScreenshotValidation, it's too long
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 And its a one char flag right?
 
it's either an agree or disagree (or "none")
 
user4639281
lol.
 
but is so a person can vote on a screenshot
 
user4639281
I make columns like flat tinyint(1) not null
 
user4639281
7:09 PM
Ha, you figure out what it means! No hints.
 
well this is a table, not a single column
 
user4639281
oh
 
user4639281
Missed that part.
 
user4639281
I have made a table with the name i before.
 
@TinyGiant That's bad and you should feel bad
 
user4639281
7:10 PM
@gunr2171 Never.
 
@TinyGiant comments in the code.
 
create table ManualInspectionDefectScreenshotValidation
(
	Id int not null    primary key identity,
	VoterOperatorId int not null,
	ScreenshotId uniqueidentifier not null,
	[Validation] bit null
)
that's what I've got so far
 
user4639281
Why not ScreenshotVotes? I guess it would have to fit with the rest of the tables.
 
that would work. It's about the "Manual Visual Inspection" section, but I'll see if I can reduce the name
 
user4639281
Also, ScreenshotId can just be Screenshot because you should always hold references by id anyways.
 
7:13 PM
It's my policy to always have "Id" in a foreign key field, makes it explicit, and easier to work with in EF if I need to.
 
user4639281
What's EF?
 
and, I'm the only person who uses foreign keys
entity framework
 
user4639281
Ahh.
 
user4639281
I always include as little information as possible while still elaborating the purpose.
 
user4639281
ScreenshotManualInspectionVotes
 
7:16 PM
hum, like that as well.
 
ew... surrogate primary keys >.>
 
@cimmanon what do you mean?
 
user4639281
Also, for id fields I always use bigint
 
create table ManualInspectionDefectScreenshotValidation
(
	Id int not null constraint PK_ManualInspectionDefectScreenshotValidation primary key identity,
	VoterOperatorId int not null constraint FK_ManualInspectionDefectScreenshotValidation_Operator foreign key references Operator(Id),
	ScreenshotId uniqueidentifier not null constraint FK_ManualInspectionDefectScreenshotValidation_ManualInspectionDefectScreenshot foreign key references ManualInspectionDefectScreenshot(Id),
	[Validation] bit null
now with 100% more constraints
 
@gunr2171 you dont know what a surrogate primary key is?
 
user4639281
7:17 PM
But I don't know if that is the same thing in your rdbms
 
looking it up because I forgot
so it's the fact that I have another column "Id" for the sole purpose of being a PK?
 
@gunr2171 bingo.
 
what, would you want me to use VoterOperatorId and ScreenshotId as the PK. I would, but EF complains sometimes.
Meh, I'll try again
 
@gunr2171 dont use something shitty that will complain if you do something the right way?
 
Great new feature! When I've got several dozen SO tabs open, I can find chat because the favicon is a mess! I hope they never fix that...
 
7:20 PM
"right way" is subjective, most frameworks I've used required surrogate primary keys
 
user4639281
So would an auto_incremented id column fit that metric?
 
@KevinBrown so because "most frameworks" do it, that mean it is a good thing?
 
@TinyGiant Try to autoedit this question. Do you notice anything odd?
 
@cimmanon Of course not, I was going to go on to say that there are a lot of cases where there is no natural key that can be used
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad dafuq? Lol, I broke something again?
 
7:22 PM
@TinyGiant Depends... what did you see?
 
user4639281
A blank text field.
 
@KevinBrown no, there are cases where using a natural key is not an ideal choice because the data can/will change (and foreign keys set to cascade can take a considerable amount of time to update)
 
@TinyGiant Then, yes. Unless there's a regex removing everything. But then, there would be 1 edit...
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Any others do the same?
 
@cimmanon right, now my question is what would be the best key to use for the case above?
 
7:23 PM
@TinyGiant Only one I've seen. Just tried a few other, np.
@TinyGiant Single paragraph. Hmm.
 
user4639281
Anything with just one paragraph?
 
@TinyGiant Nope, that wasn't it. Anything with no matches.
 
user4639281
Well... it get's the body. hmmmm....
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Oh, ok. That makes it easier.
 
@TinyGiant Worked in next-to-last commit.
 
user4639281
7:31 PM
That's what happens when you add a check to return early from a function, then forget to check whether anything actually reads the return value.
 
@KevinBrown It's a join table. I'd agree that I should be using it, i'm checking if I can without EF throwing a hissy-fit.
(a natural key)
 
@rene yeah
 
@gunr2171 I'm not sure if EF allows for compound keys, but that's require a unique relationship between both of the columns of the join table
 
@SmokeDetector fp just needs an edit
 
@durron597 Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
 
7:34 PM
@KevinBrown well, time to find out, FOR SCIENCE!
 
@durron597 I wouldn't use a NAA flag on it, nor an up vote.
 
user4639281
Userscripts are better when they are built as a collection of educated guesses, instead of rules set in stone.
 
user4639281
@mogs, there's a new version in dev
 
@TinyGiant True. Really, a roomful of monkeys could pound out every great userscript in a couple of weeks.
@TinyGiant Checking
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Educated monkeys.
 
7:36 PM
Userscripts Relationships are better when they are built as a collection of educated guesses, instead of rules set in stone.
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user4639281
^^^^ That too
 
@TinyGiant fixed.
 
sigh..markup
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Awesome. I keep taking out rules and replacing them with educated guesses. Sometimes it works better, sometimes it fails horribly.
 
@rene This has been "Life Advice with Rene"
 
user4639281
7:39 PM
The way I figure it, if I design my userscript correctly then the site adds a feature or other, it should either work automatically, or be a very simple addition.
 
@TinyGiant A good reason that each of us should work in our own dev branch, and pull into main only after validation.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Yes :)
 
user4639281
It's nice to be able to direct people to a version that does work.
 
user4639281
Not "You can use this but watch out for X, Y and Z. Oh yeah and L can screw some things up too"
 
user4639281
Eventually, we're going to have to set up a way to funnel code through a beautifier.
 
7:43 PM
Bye all, heading out for a two day retreat with my department, not sure if I will have any Internet
 
have fun!
@TinyGiant so....could you show a diff of what we've changed before we hit the save button?
 
@josilber enjoy
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 That's possible.
 
user4639281
More process intensive, but possible.
 
it could also be a separate userscript than the one you are making
but just an idea
 
user4639281
7:45 PM
No, I think that would fit nicely, as I haven't yet found a way to reliably regenerate the preview, and a diff would be nice.
 
user4639281
I think I'll use quickdiff.com unless someone else has a better example. Something that has an API would be nice.
 
Queue is already clear for the filters I have chosen :)
 

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